Re: t3 dosing and menstrual cycle.

[Guest guest]

There is a nice article on female temperatures's here

http://www.ewtn.com/library/MARRIAGE/THYROID.TXT

>It makes me wonder whether t3 doses need to be adjusted at different times of

the mestrual cycle.

>

>Or should I take into account the fact that i am still hypo, only on 50 mcg. t3

and my ideal dose would be closer to 100 (I'm thyroidless) ?

I suspect that if you get onto enough T3 you won't need to change

>

>I am charting my symptoms and the hypo seems to cycle in rhythm with my

menstrual cycle. I am getting the heartburn, the feeling cold, etc. I know it

will pass as soon as I get through this part of my cycle.

can you just try and increase anyway?

Generally at 50 you will still have T4 being generated and converted

and about a week after an increase will feel hypo again.

>Just wondering if people adjust doses accordingly? Or stick to one dose

throughout the menstrual cycle?

Not heard of it.

Nick

[Guest guest]

I've been tracking my ovulation for a few months and apparently my basal temps begin to rise when I ovulate and continue to rise until menstruation.

The basal should stay fairly the same after ovulation. There should be a pretty obvious spike in temp right after ovulation. If you'd like to know more about cycles, read " Taking Charge of Your Fertility. "

 I am soooo cold, so it seems I need more t3. However, during the first half of my cycle, from menstruation until ovulation, my t3 warmed me up, I used to feel it warming up my extremities within an hour of taking a dose. Now at this point of my cycle I don't feel the warming up feeling.

Progesterone converts to cortisol. Maybe it's way too much cortisol on the luteal phase for you that you're suppressing adrenaline so you feel colder. When I used to have high cortisol and had a stressful situation, I started to feel very cold.

But that might not be the case either. When I got pregnant (progesterone rises significantly during pregnancy), I was freezing. Most people feel warmer. Somehow my body temp rising w/ pregnancy made me feel colder. Even now, sometimes during luteal phase I tend to feel colder, yet my body temp is about .3 degrees higher. I don't know why that is. Maybe it has to do w/ cortisol and adrenalin because adrenalin makes you " feel " warmer.

 

It makes me wonder whether t3 doses need to be adjusted at different times of the mestrual cycle.More like your cortisol. I do notice I don't feel the need to dose as often during my luteal phase. In fact, I was going to experiment taking less during luteal phase and taking more during follicular phase.

 

I am charting my symptoms and the hypo seems to cycle in rhythm with my menstrual cycle. I am getting the heartburn, Heartburn could be from natural rise in progesterone. It relaxes your muslces or something like that (sorry can't remember what!). That's why preggo ladies tend to get heartburn a lot.

 the feeling cold, etc. I know it will pass as soon as I get through this part of my cycle.

Again, this could be due to the rise in your temp and somehow making you " feel " cold. I don't think you can accurately say you're hypo because you " feel " cold. When cortisol is low, adrenalin tends to be higher, and that's what makes you " feel " warm. High cortisol probably correlates to low adrenalin, therefore making you " feel " colder.

Just wondering if people adjust doses accordingly? Or stick to one dose throughout the menstrual cycle?I was actually able to go from 35mg of HC to 20mg during one luteal phase! And I've been able to stick to that lower dose since then. I don't know what happened - maybe with optimal thyroid, my body is better able to utilize cholesterol to make pregnenolone, which then converts to progesterone, then cortisol.

[Guest guest]

Nick, thanks for your input!

You mention t4, but I don't have a thyroid. My t4 levels are neglible on my

labs. No free t4 and no t4 (.006, which isn't much at all)

I'm only on t3 now. Was on synthroid/levoxyl until November and then switched to

cytomel and have been on cytomel since then; working up from 5 mcg and now at 50

mcg. and aiming higher as long as I can tolerate it. I hate the 'speedy' feeling

I get when I raise too much, so I am raising extremely slowly.

>

> There is a nice article on female temperatures's here

>

> http://www.ewtn.com/library/MARRIAGE/THYROID.TXT

>

> >It makes me wonder whether t3 doses need to be adjusted at different times of

the mestrual cycle.

> >

> >Or should I take into account the fact that i am still hypo, only on 50 mcg.

t3 and my ideal dose would be closer to 100 (I'm thyroidless) ?

>

> I suspect that if you get onto enough T3 you won't need to change

> >

> >I am charting my symptoms and the hypo seems to cycle in rhythm with my

menstrual cycle. I am getting the heartburn, the feeling cold, etc. I know it

will pass as soon as I get through this part of my cycle.

>

> can you just try and increase anyway?

>

> Generally at 50 you will still have T4 being generated and converted

> and about a week after an increase will feel hypo again.

>

> >Just wondering if people adjust doses accordingly? Or stick to one dose

throughout the menstrual cycle?

>

> Not heard of it.

>

> Nick

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info! I think I will get the book and read it.

I am thyroidless and not on optimum levels of t3. An infection or other has been

bugging me since late December and I think I just got over it, having increased

my hc to close to 100 mg a day.

will see what happens as I increase t3.

>

> >

> > I've been tracking my ovulation for a few months and apparently my basal

> > temps begin to rise when I ovulate and continue to rise until menstruation.

>

>

> The basal should stay fairly the same after ovulation. There should be a

> pretty obvious spike in temp right after ovulation. If you'd like to know

> more about cycles, read " Taking Charge of Your Fertility. "

>

>

> > I am soooo cold, so it seems I need more t3. However, during the first half

> > of my cycle, from menstruation until ovulation, my t3 warmed me up, I used

> > to feel it warming up my extremities within an hour of taking a dose. Now at

> > this point of my cycle I don't feel the warming up feeling.

> >

>

> Progesterone converts to cortisol. Maybe it's way too much cortisol on the

> luteal phase for you that you're suppressing adrenaline so you feel colder.

> When I used to have high cortisol and had a stressful situation, I started

> to feel very cold.

>

> But that might not be the case either. When I got pregnant (progesterone

> rises significantly during pregnancy), I was freezing. Most people feel

> warmer. Somehow my body temp rising w/ pregnancy made me feel colder. Even

> now, sometimes during luteal phase I tend to feel colder, yet my body temp

> is about .3 degrees higher. I don't know why that is. Maybe it has to do w/

> cortisol and adrenalin because adrenalin makes you " feel " warmer.

>

>

> > It makes me wonder whether t3 doses need to be adjusted at different times

> > of the mestrual cycle.

> >

>

> More like your cortisol. I do notice I don't feel the need to dose as often

> during my luteal phase. In fact, I was going to experiment taking less

> during luteal phase and taking more during follicular phase.

>

>

> > I am charting my symptoms and the hypo seems to cycle in rhythm with my

> > menstrual cycle. I am getting the heartburn,

>

>

> Heartburn could be from natural rise in progesterone. It relaxes your

> muslces or something like that (sorry can't remember what!). That's why

> preggo ladies tend to get heartburn a lot.

>

>

> > the feeling cold, etc. I know it will pass as soon as I get through this

> > part of my cycle.

> >

>

> Again, this could be due to the rise in your temp and somehow making you

> " feel " cold. I don't think you can accurately say you're hypo because you

> " feel " cold. When cortisol is low, adrenalin tends to be higher, and that's

> what makes you " feel " warm. High cortisol probably correlates to low

> adrenalin, therefore making you " feel " colder.

>

> Just wondering if people adjust doses accordingly? Or stick to one dose

> > throughout the menstrual cycle?

> >

>

> I was actually able to go from 35mg of HC to 20mg during one luteal phase!

> And I've been able to stick to that lower dose since then. I don't know what

> happened - maybe with optimal thyroid, my body is better able to utilize

> cholesterol to make pregnenolone, which then converts to progesterone, then

> cortisol.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

High cortisol,causes adrenaline rushes,don't know about to low

cortisol,so wanted to correct u on this. Then the adrenaline from high

cortisol can cause a big glucose dump,and increase blood sugar

levels. Deb

--aliano