Re: Val and Nick,what is not letting me raise T3?

[Guest guest]

>5) What else should I look for cheking to be able to raise more T3?

Sounds like you've covered most things.

When you say you can't raise T3 what happens if you try?

Nick

[Guest guest]

Nick,

I get anxiety and very tense.Also,I can't fall a sleep until late and wake up

very early,but the big issue is the anxiety.Also some times I get a heart

pain,which I had before. The heart pain issue though went away when started

taking HC.I had that pain recently again when started lowereing the HC from 35mg

but for now it's just on a momnents and not constant.

Nick,the other issue I have and forgot to mentsion is the very low RBC magnesium

it was 3.4 with lowest range 4.5 and high 6.4.

Nick,I wanted to add to the picture that for 22 years I was on T4

100-150mg,because my thyroid was partly removed.I don't knkow if that changes

anything?

What else could I do? I'm very affraid to try adding the T4 but just thought

like a scenario and want your thoughts on that.My last thyroif test were with

very high FT3 7.7 but I had taken the T3 twice at this day,because I did not

know my doctor will want to do the test at the visit.My RT3 though was 3,which

great and my FT4 and TSh were very suppres. By this test if the FT3 was relyable

I should not have any problems and my RT3 should be gone but I have to make the

another thest to see the real situation. Please give me any thoughts and

suggestipon.

I appreciate it a lot.

Milena

>

> >5) What else should I look for cheking to be able to raise more T3?

>

> Sounds like you've covered most things.

>

> When you say you can't raise T3 what happens if you try?

>

> Nick

>

[Guest guest]

>Nick,

>

>I get anxiety and very tense.

Sounds ferritin

>Also,I can't fall a sleep until late and wake up very early,but the big issue

is the anxiety.Also some times I get a heart pain,which I had before. The heart

pain issue though went away when started taking HC.I had that pain recently

again when started lowereing the HC from 35mg but for now it's just on a

momnents and not constant.

Have you recent ferritin labs???

>Nick,the other issue I have and forgot to mentsion is the very low RBC

magnesium it was 3.4 with lowest range 4.5 and high 6.4.

That's low, Val may have comments there

>Nick,I wanted to add to the picture that for 22 years I was on T4

100-150mg,because my thyroid was partly removed.I don't knkow if that changes

anything?

Not really, just gave you time to juild resistance from the T4

producing RT3

>What else could I do? I'm very affraid to try adding the T4 but just thought

like a scenario and want your thoughts on that.

I doubt it will help

>My last thyroif test were with very high FT3 7.7 but I had taken the T3 twice

at this day,because I did not know my doctor will want to do the test at the

visit.

Then that's not high at all.

>My RT3 though was 3,which great and my FT4 and TSh were very suppres. By this

test if the FT3 was relyable I should not have any problems and my RT3 should be

gone but I have to make the another thest to see the real situation. Please give

me any thoughts and suggestipon.

It takes a LOT longer for receptors to clear than it does serum, you

havn't given it 3 months yet so I would hang in there on T3 for

longer.

You may not need more T3 than you are on, it's suppressed TSH and T4

so as long as you don't feel hypo on it then it's enough for you.

>I appreciate it a lot.

Doing my best in a busy time at the moment,

Nick

[Guest guest]

Nick,

I have tested my ferritin a 2 weeks ago and a week before.My ferritin is very

high still is 200 at the moment,so it's not a ferritin issue.That what gets

me.Before the IVs I could not tolerate even 3mcg T3. It's a big progress to get

to 55mcg but I feel very hypo and have the symptoms for it. I thought that I'm

probably a different and don't need much more T3,but why I'm with all the hypo

symptoms.

Nick,you are saying I have to give 3 months on T3 only and I have.

" It takes a LOT longer for receptors to clear than it does serum, you

> havn't given it 3 months yet so I would hang in there on T3 for

> longer. "

I have given much longer then 3 months,I have been on T3 for full 5

months,that's what gets me and I'm confused with what to do from here?

So,it's not the ferritin for sure ,I just cheked it,it's not the cortisol,I'm on

30mg HC and came down from 35mg,so what else it is?

I need any suggestions and ideas to explain why I'm not hypo symptoms free yet?

I appreciate your help.

Milena

>

> >Nick,

> >

> >I get anxiety and very tense.

>

> Sounds ferritin

>

> >Also,I can't fall a sleep until late and wake up very early,but the big issue

is the anxiety.Also some times I get a heart pain,which I had before. The heart

pain issue though went away when started taking HC.I had that pain recently

again when started lowereing the HC from 35mg but for now it's just on a

momnents and not constant.

>

> Have you recent ferritin labs???

>

> >Nick,the other issue I have and forgot to mentsion is the very low RBC

magnesium it was 3.4 with lowest range 4.5 and high 6.4.

>

> That's low, Val may have comments there

>

> >Nick,I wanted to add to the picture that for 22 years I was on T4

100-150mg,because my thyroid was partly removed.I don't knkow if that changes

anything?

>

> Not really, just gave you time to juild resistance from the T4

> producing RT3

>

> >What else could I do? I'm very affraid to try adding the T4 but just thought

like a scenario and want your thoughts on that.

>

> I doubt it will help

>

> >My last thyroif test were with very high FT3 7.7 but I had taken the T3 twice

at this day,because I did not know my doctor will want to do the test at the

visit.

>

> Then that's not high at all.

>

> >My RT3 though was 3,which great and my FT4 and TSh were very suppres. By this

test if the FT3 was relyable I should not have any problems and my RT3 should be

gone but I have to make the another thest to see the real situation. Please give

me any thoughts and suggestipon.

>

> It takes a LOT longer for receptors to clear than it does serum, you

> havn't given it 3 months yet so I would hang in there on T3 for

> longer.

>

> You may not need more T3 than you are on, it's suppressed TSH and T4

> so as long as you don't feel hypo on it then it's enough for you.

>

> >I appreciate it a lot.

>

> Doing my best in a busy time at the moment,

> Nick

>

[Guest guest]

>I have tested my ferritin a 2 weeks ago and a week before.My ferritin is very

high still is 200 at the moment,so it's not a ferritin issue.That what gets

me.Before the IVs I could not tolerate even 3mcg T3. It's a big progress to get

to 55mcg but I feel very hypo and have the symptoms for it. I thought that I'm

probably a different and don't need much more T3,but why I'm with all the hypo

symptoms.

>

>Nick,you are saying I have to give 3 months on T3 only and I have.

> " It takes a LOT longer for receptors to clear than it does serum, you

>> havn't given it 3 months yet so I would hang in there on T3 for

>> longer. "

>I have given much longer then 3 months,I have been on T3 for full 5

months,that's what gets me and I'm confused with what to do from here?

Ah, I misread it as you starting in December at a low dose and

increasing in January. The reality is that it's probably 8 weeks from

getting to a dose of around 40mcg for clearance to happen.

>

>So,it's not the ferritin for sure ,I just cheked it,it's not the cortisol,I'm

on 30mg HC and came down from 35mg,so what else it is?

>I need any suggestions and ideas to explain why I'm not hypo symptoms free yet?

>I appreciate your help.

How are vitamin B12 and Vitamin D levels??

Have you got Candida issues

Remind me about electrolyte results.

>Nick,the other issue I have and forgot to mentsion is the very low RBC

magnesium it was 3.4 with lowest range 4.5 and high 6.4.

Have you tried to raise this at all??

http://www.pbraunmd.org/magnesiu.htm talks about magnedium

deficiency

When you try an increase in T3 what happens to your temperature???

Nick

[Guest guest]

>I have tested my ferritin a 2 weeks ago and a week before.My ferritin is very

high still is 200 at the moment,so it's not a ferritin issue.That what gets

me.Before the IVs I could not tolerate even 3mcg T3. It's a big progress to get

to 55mcg but I feel very hypo and have the symptoms for it. I thought that I'm

probably a different and don't need much more T3,but why I'm with all the hypo

symptoms.

>

>Nick,you are saying I have to give 3 months on T3 only and I have.

> " It takes a LOT longer for receptors to clear than it does serum, you

>> havn't given it 3 months yet so I would hang in there on T3 for

>> longer. "

>I have given much longer then 3 months,I have been on T3 for full 5

months,that's what gets me and I'm confused with what to do from here?

Ah, I misread it as you starting in December at a low dose and

increasing in January. The reality is that it's probably 8 weeks from

getting to a dose of around 40mcg for clearance to happen.

>

>So,it's not the ferritin for sure ,I just cheked it,it's not the cortisol,I'm

on 30mg HC and came down from 35mg,so what else it is?

>I need any suggestions and ideas to explain why I'm not hypo symptoms free yet?

>I appreciate your help.

How are vitamin B12 and Vitamin D levels??

Have you got Candida issues

Remind me about electrolyte results.

>Nick,the other issue I have and forgot to mentsion is the very low RBC

magnesium it was 3.4 with lowest range 4.5 and high 6.4.

Have you tried to raise this at all??

http://www.pbraunmd.org/magnesiu.htm talks about magnedium

deficiency

When you try an increase in T3 what happens to your temperature???

Nick

[Guest guest]

Nick,

First I want to thank you for the great article for magnesium deficiency. I have

read some but this one is realy comprehensive.I was very confused with my

results for magnesium because the srum levels are at the top range but my RBC is

a lot under the lowest level.So,I got coinfused and stopped working on this

issue,wich looks like is a big part of the whole picture.

About my electrolytes they are very much out of balance.

The sodium is been in the lowest end and the potassium in the highest,even once

went over the top range but the next test showed has lowered a bit an dis in the

top range.

Abiut Candida,from a 2 weeks ago it came negative,which is very surprising for

me,since all my life I have been on a tons of antiabiotics but is negative.

My vit.D is higher then used to be,the last result was 40 and I was taking for a

2 years 6000unit per day but lately have not taken it because there is so much

to take and I can't keep up with all.

My B12 form the begining of the sickness is been very good surprisingly.

The othee new dissapointment for me is that they detected antibodies for Hashi

,which I did not have before.

Nick,I have a gut infection Helicobacterpylory ,which did not clear out from a

antiobotic treatment last year. Tgey gave me some kind a triple antiobiotic

,wich is the commomn treat for this and I debated to take it or not and on the

end I did but no results.I'm going to see

a specialist for this matter on Wednesday and have no idea what to do for it

because is not good for my digestive system or on the whole picture.

That is prety much all I could think about for fill you on the situation.

I will appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks

Milena

>

> >I have tested my ferritin a 2 weeks ago and a week before.My ferritin is very

high still is 200 at the moment,so it's not a ferritin issue.That what gets

me.Before the IVs I could not tolerate even 3mcg T3. It's a big progress to get

to 55mcg but I feel very hypo and have the symptoms for it. I thought that I'm

probably a different and don't need much more T3,but why I'm with all the hypo

symptoms.

> >

> >Nick,you are saying I have to give 3 months on T3 only and I have.

> > " It takes a LOT longer for receptors to clear than it does serum, you

> >> havn't given it 3 months yet so I would hang in there on T3 for

> >> longer. "

>

> >I have given much longer then 3 months,I have been on T3 for full 5

months,that's what gets me and I'm confused with what to do from here?

>

> Ah, I misread it as you starting in December at a low dose and

> increasing in January. The reality is that it's probably 8 weeks from

> getting to a dose of around 40mcg for clearance to happen.

> >

> >So,it's not the ferritin for sure ,I just cheked it,it's not the cortisol,I'm

on 30mg HC and came down from 35mg,so what else it is?

>

>

> >I need any suggestions and ideas to explain why I'm not hypo symptoms free

yet?

> >I appreciate your help.

>

> How are vitamin B12 and Vitamin D levels??

>

> Have you got Candida issues

>

> Remind me about electrolyte results.

>

> >Nick,the other issue I have and forgot to mentsion is the very low RBC

magnesium it was 3.4 with lowest range 4.5 and high 6.4.

>

> Have you tried to raise this at all??

>

> http://www.pbraunmd.org/magnesiu.htm talks about magnedium

> deficiency

>

> When you try an increase in T3 what happens to your temperature???

>

> Nick

>