Re: My latest labs... (inclomplete, but still a lot to look at!)

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Dunno why the link turned out like that but you can just copy and paste it and pull the split together and have a look at it if anyone wants!Thanks! - Stuck with a Terrible upper left side stomach pain (spleen? or gas? constipation?) at the moment!

 

Maybe someone can take a look at this and see if there is any sense in anything.. And why I feel so bad! I was on 27.5 mg HC and 35 mcg T3 when these blood/urine tests were taken. Awaiting the rest of the results before my appointment with a specialist in Belgium!http://nightrangerw eb.net/bloodurin etestbelgium. pdf

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>Maybe someone can take a look at this and see if there is any sense in

anything.. And why I feel so bad! I was on 27.5 mg HC and 35 mcg T3 when these

blood/urine tests were taken.

OK, from that you are hypo still, TSH is not suppressed, T4 only just

under range, and FT3 not at the top of the range.

Your Vitamin D also leaps out at me, that needs to be 50 at least.

The low SHBG ties in with being hypo. That being low helps keep your

Free Testosterone reasonable despite the low total figure (iit's the

free that is bioavailable and does you any good).

nothing else leaps out at me but Val may well have more thoughts on

this

Nick

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What is SHBG?

From: Nick Foot

Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 5:17 PM

To: RT3_T3

Subject: Re: My latest labs... (inclomplete, but still a lot to look at!)

>Maybe someone can take a look at this and see if there is any sense in anything.. And why I feel so bad! I was on 27.5 mg HC and 35 mcg T3 when these blood/urine tests were taken. OK, from that you are hypo still, TSH is not suppressed, T4 only justunder range, and FT3 not at the top of the range.Your Vitamin D also leaps out at me, that needs to be 50 at least.The low SHBG ties in with being hypo. That being low helps keep yourFree Testosterone reasonable despite the low total figure (iit's thefree that is bioavailable and does you any good).nothing else leaps out at me but Val may well have more thoughts onthisNick

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These results are the latest I've Received, but not the latest I've Done. This test was from February 10th 2010, which means my FT3, TSH etc. looks a bit different now. TSH is lower, FT3 is a bit higher. Anyway... This was my huge blood test which I did before my appointment with Hertoghe in Belgium in early March! 9 glasses of blood. I rarely do that much.Low blood levels of 25-hydroxyvitamin D may means that I'm not getting enough exposure to sunlight or enough dietary vitamin D to meet my body’s demand or that there is a problem with its absorption from the intestines. The latter may be a problem with me...Should I take more than 3000 iu D3 daily? I was a bit worried about my calcium getting too high so I cut back on the D3 to 3000 iu daily.The low SHBG is just depressing. My blood/urine samples just show

that I am not well. And I don't feel well either.Right now, I have an amazingly painful feeling in my "spleen-area". Does anyone know what this possibly could be, maybe you have some guesses, Nick? Low stomach acid? Is there a test to check how much stomach acid one's got?Thanks for your reply...!

>Maybe someone can take a look at this and see if there is any sense in anything.. And why I feel so bad! I was on 27.5 mg HC and 35 mcg T3 when these blood/urine tests were taken.

OK, from that you are hypo still, TSH is not suppressed, T4 only just

under range, and FT3 not at the top of the range.

Your Vitamin D also leaps out at me, that needs to be 50 at least.

The low SHBG ties in with being hypo. That being low helps keep your

Free Testosterone reasonable despite the low total figure (iit's the

free that is bioavailable and does you any good).

nothing else leaps out at me but Val may well have more thoughts on

this

Nick

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>Should I take more than 3000 iu D3 daily? I was a bit worried about my calcium

getting too high so I cut back on the D3 to 3000 iu daily.

Being awake in the day and spending time outside with your skin

exposed in the summer gives around 10,000 IU in 30 mins from the sun.

I am supplementing at that level and have felt no ill effects from it

at all. I believe the 10,000IU of D that I am taking has helped my

immune system no end.

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>The low SHBG is just depressing. My blood/urine samples just show that I am not

well. And I don't feel well either.

Low SHBG = more available sex hormones.

That's ht your free levels are reasonable despite the lowish total

level.

Nick

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Do you do 10.000 iu D3 all year through or just in the wintertime? There is not much "sun" in the sun these days that's for sure! :)So I'll become more.. Sexual when I have low SHBG?Nick, do you also know what can be the culprit of my new (ssince yesterday) stomach/upper stomach pain and problems? Feels like I'm rottening day by day..

>Should I take more than 3000 iu D3 daily? I was a bit worried about my calcium getting too high so I cut back on the D3 to 3000 iu daily.

Being awake in the day and spending time outside with your skin

exposed in the summer gives around 10,000 IU in 30 mins from the sun.

I am supplementing at that level and have felt no ill effects from it

at all. I believe the 10,000IU of D that I am taking has helped my

immune system no end.

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>The low SHBG is just depressing. My blood/urine samples just show that I am not well. And I don't feel well either.

Low SHBG = more available sex hormones.

That's ht your free levels are reasonable despite the lowish total

level.

Nick

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, I would be very grateful if you took a look at my labs too! Feels like my body is giving up right now... :\

>Maybe someone can take a look at this and see if there is any sense in anything.. And why I feel so bad! I was on 27.5 mg HC and 35 mcg T3 when these blood/urine tests were taken.

OK, from that you are hypo still, TSH is not suppressed, T4 only just

under range, and FT3 not at the top of the range.

Your Vitamin D also leaps out at me, that needs to be 50 at least.

The low SHBG ties in with being hypo. That being low helps keep your

Free Testosterone reasonable despite the low total figure (iit's the

free that is bioavailable and does you any good).

nothing else leaps out at me but Val may well have more thoughts on

this

Nick

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>Do you do 10.000 iu D3 all year through or just in the wintertime? There is not

much " sun " in the sun these days that's for sure!

I'm contemplating reducing to 5000 for the summer and staying at

10,000 for the winter.

>So I'll become more.. Sexual when I have low SHBG?

That's the theory.

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>Nick, do you also know what can be the culprit of my new (ssince yesterday)

stomach/upper stomach pain and problems? Feels like I'm rottening day by day..

No idea.

The most likely culprits are too much or too little acid. The main way

to tell them apart is to try anti-acids and see if that helps or the

hcl and see what that does. One will make it better and one worse!

Nick

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OK going throiugh them, your Ferritin isstil WAY too low, Yes I would

bump Vitamin D up to 10,000iu daily for at least 3 months then retest, I

have taken that dose for over a year now and have my vitamin D at 80

finally. Your B12 is a bit low so if oyu supplement that you need to

raise it, if you don;t a good sublingual B12 in 2500mcg a day would be

good. yOU CAN INCREASE SEA SALT A BIT SODIUM IS A TAD LWO. Krill oil

(1000-2000mg daily) woudlhelp your cholesterol panel look batter wiht

raising the good stuff an lowering the bad.

Your TSH is coming UP which is good as it shows your body si notw

ready for more thyroid. I woudl increase the T3 now. Your Testosterone

is a bit low but not horrible, and the SHBG is lwo due to low T3, th

eincreases willhelp bring that up.

Your urinary T4 is stil high indicating stil a high Rt3 issue and a

need for more T3 to supress it.

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>Your TSH is coming UP which is good as it shows your body si notw

>ready for more thyroid. I woudl increase the T3 now

But remembering these labs are a historical snapshot and has

increased since then I think???

What were you on then/now?

Nick

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Wow thanks for the detailed and quick reply Val! This test was however taken on the 10th of February so it's not my latest test, but it's my latest Results. My TSH is lower today then it was when I did this test. I'll take more D3. But which vitamin D level are you talking about? This is the hydroxy .25 level I just measured. My normal D3 test called "D3" shows I am in the 60-70s. Which test is the one I should go after? Would B12 shots in the butt be ok to get that up? I am taking a B-Complex (Solgar "100") You are talking about a high rT3 issue in my cells? Cause in my blood, I don't have an rT3 issue any more. I just started taking that great Omega product from New Chapter. It has no krill oil in it though. Which krill product is the best one on the market?

 

OK going throiugh them, your Ferritin isstil WAY too low, Yes I would

bump Vitamin D up to 10,000iu daily for at least 3 months then retest, I

have taken that dose for over a year now and have my vitamin D at 80

finally. Your B12 is a bit low so if oyu supplement that you need to

raise it, if you don;t a good sublingual B12 in 2500mcg a day would be

good. yOU CAN INCREASE SEA SALT A BIT SODIUM IS A TAD LWO. Krill oil

(1000-2000mg daily) woudlhelp your cholesterol panel look batter wiht

raising the good stuff an lowering the bad.

Your TSH is coming UP which is good as it shows your body si notw

ready for more thyroid. I woudl increase the T3 now. Your Testosterone

is a bit low but not horrible, and the SHBG is lwo due to low T3, th

eincreases willhelp bring that up.

Your urinary T4 is stil high indicating stil a high Rt3 issue and a  

need for more T3 to supress it.

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Then: 27.5 mg HC and 35 mcg T3now: 35 mg HC and 50 mcg T3

>Your TSH is coming UP which is good as it shows your body si notw

>ready for more thyroid. I woudl increase the T3 now

But remembering these labs are a historical snapshot and has

increased since then I think???

What were you on then/now?

Nick

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>Then: 27.5 mg HC and 35 mcg T3now: 35 mg HC and 50 mcg T3

The labs confirm that the changes you have made were correct but tell

you nothing about where you are now.

Has the " smaller more freequent dosing " of the T3 reduced any of the

odd adrenaline surge effects you were getting?? If you didn't get any

benefit then you may as well go back to the larget less frequent

doses.

Nick

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Any B you take orally, by swallowing will not help B12 levels. Stomach

acid destroys it. This is why it must be sublingual. I buy Puritain Prde

Krill oil an it heps my cholesterol perfectly and also releives joint

inflammation.

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Never heard of sublingual B12. Where can I buy it? What about B12 shots?I will chek out the Krill thanks!!Umm, do you know why my hands are kind of shaking and I have jagged movement ? Just got back from the doc, he did urine and blood tests and found no infections or bacteria in me at the moment. I still have a BAD stomach/area pain.

 

Any B you take orally, by swallowing will not help B12 levels. Stomach

acid destroys it. This is why it must be sublingual. I buy Puritain Prde

Krill oil an it heps my cholesterol perfectly and also releives joint

inflammation.

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Well Nick it's always something new. Yesterday and today have been so bad because of stomach problems that I don't know what's what!! I am unsure the split T3 helps me. It's hell doing 10 doses daily that's for sure. I can try to go back to a 5-split and see if I get worse again. Right now, I AM worse - GP found nothing wrong with me when I went there now in pain! My stomach/spleen area is just horrible!

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>Then: 27.5 mg HC and 35 mcg T3now: 35 mg HC and 50 mcg T3

The labs confirm that the changes you have made were correct but tell

you nothing about where you are now.

Has the "smaller more freequent dosing" of the T3 reduced any of the

odd adrenaline surge effects you were getting?? If you didn't get any

benefit then you may as well go back to the larget less frequent

doses.

Nick

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Sublingual B12 is available from any vitamin shop. You want Methylcobalamin

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Found it all at iherb. Which strength should I take daily?M

 

Sublingual B12 is available from any vitamin shop. You want Methylcobalamin

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Val would it be wise of me to do a MR or something of my heart and chest to see if I have gotten too much internal fat in there? Maybe something is pushing on my heart! Maybe THAT'S why my heart skips beats when I bend forward!

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Sublingual b12: I take 5,000 mcg daily (yes, five THOUSAND). I have had low

b12 problems for many years and the 5,000 sublingual b12 has really helped a

lot. It is my understanding that since b12 is water-soluble, it is impossible

for me to overdose...any my body can't use is eliminated via urine.

My doctor thinks b12 injections are great, she gets them herself, she says they

make a big difference in how she feels. I have gotten several, and for whatever

reason, they just don't have any effect on me at all. So now I skip the shots

and just keep my b12 up with the sublinguals. If I am not really faithful about

taking them, sure enough, my b12 level drifts down into the unhealthy zone

again.

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what is the unhealthy zone? what is "too low" for us Hypo? when I took injections, my B12 levels were at 1500+ ! Now I am at about 5-600..... Subject: Re: My latest labs... (inclomplete, but still a lot to look at!)To: RT3_T3 Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 7:12 PM

 

Sublingual b12: I take 5,000 mcg daily (yes, five THOUSAND). I have had low b12 problems for many years and the 5,000 sublingual b12 has really helped a lot. It is my understanding that since b12 is water-soluble, it is impossible for me to overdose...any my body can't use is eliminated via urine.

My doctor thinks b12 injections are great, she gets them herself, she says they make a big difference in how she feels. I have gotten several, and for whatever reason, they just don't have any effect on me at all. So now I skip the shots and just keep my b12 up with the sublinguals. If I am not really faithful about taking them, sure enough, my b12 level drifts down into the unhealthy zone again.

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b12 range from my lab is 211-911; I try to keep it in the very top of the range

or over. Last July I fell behind on my sublingual b12s and it dropped to 333,

which, although technically " in range " , is too low for me to be in good health.

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Do they come in citrus flavors, vanilla or cinnamon? I can't stand berries... So these actually work? I think I take 100 mcg daily today. In my Solgar B-Complex. Hmmmm! 5000 mcg sounds like a huge step up!

 

b12 range from my lab is 211-911; I try to keep it in the very top of the range or over. Last July I fell behind on my sublingual b12s and it dropped to 333, which, although 

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Never paid much attention to the flavors. Used to take Cyanocobalamin, now take

Methylcobalamin; think they were both cherry flavored. Sublingual b12 has

always worked well for me, I suspect that some folks who have not had good luck

with it have not taken enough of it, i.e., they took less than 5000 mcg every

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Never paid much attention to the flavors. Used to take Cyanocobalamin, now take

Methylcobalamin; think they were both cherry flavored. Sublingual b12 has

always worked well for me, I suspect that some folks who have not had good luck

with it have not taken enough of it, i.e., they took less than 5000 mcg every

single day.

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