Re: Nick,RT3 question

February 22, 2010

Milena this was me last night too. It seems to happen to me once a week and

everytime I think I figure out why, it happens again. I am taking 5 HC at

bedtime and that didn't seem to help, then I added a bedtime cytomel dose and it

worked. Then it came back and I have no idea why. I also have periods during

the day when I feel warm, but not sweating with a pounding heart.

Steve

>

> Nick,

> I have done a lot of changes the last days with my HC dose and T3 and is

confusing to figure out what is goin on.I lowered my HC dose from 35mg to 30mg

for the last 2 weeks and stayed on the same T3,which I increased recenlty to

55mg T3. Last night I had a weired expireance and not sure what caused it? I

took my bed dose and fell asleep but in a hour woke up feeling very hot. Then I

fell asleep again and all night was waiking up and feeling very hot,like

burning. I'm not sure if that was from low cortisol and adrenalyn? I wonder if

that can be RT3 and for how long? Also,did you have tolower the T3 dose for a

few days when that happened or not?

> In my case probably was adrenalin because I'm on a high amount of progesterone

100,but yesterday my period came and for a week I take a brake from the

progesteroen,so that what probably triggered this last night.

> It's starnge though because I was not having an anxiety ,wich usualy I get

with an adrenalin but we are so complex,never know exactly what is happening.

> Thanks for your help

> Milena

>

February 22, 2010

Steve,

This is not something that is happening on usual bases for me. I had an issues

like that before I started the HC 7 months ago. What have you done or changed to

try to fix it? Any ideas will be helpful and may guide me in the right direction

and I will appreciate it. I'm sorry it's still happening to you and you can't

figure it out yet.

Thanks a lot

Milena

> >

> > Nick,

> > I have done a lot of changes the last days with my HC dose and T3 and is

confusing to figure out what is goin on.I lowered my HC dose from 35mg to 30mg

for the last 2 weeks and stayed on the same T3,which I increased recenlty to

55mg T3. Last night I had a weired expireance and not sure what caused it? I

took my bed dose and fell asleep but in a hour woke up feeling very hot. Then I

fell asleep again and all night was waiking up and feeling very hot,like

burning. I'm not sure if that was from low cortisol and adrenalyn? I wonder if

that can be RT3 and for how long? Also,did you have tolower the T3 dose for a

few days when that happened or not?

> > In my case probably was adrenalin because I'm on a high amount of

progesterone 100,but yesterday my period came and for a week I take a brake from

the progesteroen,so that what probably triggered this last night.

> > It's starnge though because I was not having an anxiety ,wich usualy I get

with an adrenalin but we are so complex,never know exactly what is happening.

> > Thanks for your help

> > Milena

> >

>

February 22, 2010

I always thought that it was an adrenaline symptom that was due to being

hypothyroid because the HC at night didn't seem to help but the cytomel at

bedtime did. I also wondered whether I was suppressing my own HC production

with too much during the day.and the 5HC wasn't enough to get me through the

night. I SURE WISH SOMEONE COULD HELP HERE!! Now I am just not sure what it

is. I get hot a lot during the day as well but I don't notice the pounding

heart but perhaps its because Im not laying in bed. Heck, maybe its a HYPER

symptom from too much T3. I HAVE NO CLUE! I hope that we can figure it out

because every night would be brutal. The last few times it happened to me it

only lasted 1-2 nights so maybe its just an adjustment in the body and can fix

itself? Perhaps the strangest thing of all is that when I have a bad night like

that the following day seems to be less foggy and exhausted!!

Steve

> > >

> > > Nick,

> > > I have done a lot of changes the last days with my HC dose and T3 and is

confusing to figure out what is goin on.I lowered my HC dose from 35mg to 30mg

for the last 2 weeks and stayed on the same T3,which I increased recenlty to

55mg T3. Last night I had a weired expireance and not sure what caused it? I

took my bed dose and fell asleep but in a hour woke up feeling very hot. Then I

fell asleep again and all night was waiking up and feeling very hot,like

burning. I'm not sure if that was from low cortisol and adrenalyn? I wonder if

that can be RT3 and for how long? Also,did you have tolower the T3 dose for a

few days when that happened or not?

> > > In my case probably was adrenalin because I'm on a high amount of

progesterone 100,but yesterday my period came and for a week I take a brake from

the progesteroen,so that what probably triggered this last night.

> > > It's starnge though because I was not having an anxiety ,wich usualy I get

with an adrenalin but we are so complex,never know exactly what is happening.

> > > Thanks for your help

> > > Milena

> > >

> >

>

February 22, 2010

Steve,

I wish I could resolve the issue to and get ahead with the process but the

reality is different,it's all so complicated.Today I'm still having the same hot

feeling and I'm lowering the T3 with probably 10mcg for the day and see what the

outcome will be tonight. For me it's happening while changing the HC and also at

the same time had to stop the progesterone,so there is a lot at the same time.I

will try to stay the same for a week and see if is just adjusting of the body or

not. Thanks for your reply,I appreciate it.

> > > >

> > > > Nick,

> > > > I have done a lot of changes the last days with my HC dose and T3 and is

confusing to figure out what is goin on.I lowered my HC dose from 35mg to 30mg

for the last 2 weeks and stayed on the same T3,which I increased recenlty to

55mg T3. Last night I had a weired expireance and not sure what caused it? I

took my bed dose and fell asleep but in a hour woke up feeling very hot. Then I

fell asleep again and all night was waiking up and feeling very hot,like

burning. I'm not sure if that was from low cortisol and adrenalyn? I wonder if

that can be RT3 and for how long? Also,did you have tolower the T3 dose for a

few days when that happened or not?

> > > > In my case probably was adrenalin because I'm on a high amount of

progesterone 100,but yesterday my period came and for a week I take a brake from

the progesteroen,so that what probably triggered this last night.

> > > > It's starnge though because I was not having an anxiety ,wich usualy I

get with an adrenalin but we are so complex,never know exactly what is

happening.

> > > > Thanks for your help

> > > > Milena

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

February 22, 2010

>It's starnge though because I was not having an anxiety ,wich usualy I get with

an adrenalin but we are so complex,never know exactly what is happening.

>Thanks for your help

Difficult to say, did you take temperatures or pulse??

If you had a virus starting up that could cause the waking and hot

feelings as well of course.

It may just be your body sorting itself out or be a sex hormone thing.

If it happens again check temperature and pulse if you are that awake

and also try the glass of salted water

Nick

February 22, 2010

Nick,

what will this tell you? If it happens again tonight I will do that. What

would you be watching for with drinking salt water. I felt like the pulse was

70-80 which is higher for me, and suspect that the temp would be up too as it

has been all day today and I have felt so hot. My avg today was 98.8 although

my basal was its usual 97.6. I have had palps all day today and heart rate 78

which is higher than my usual 70 or lower, but I have felt decent other than

hot. My head fog isn't gone but not real bad either despite the poor sleep.

What I have noticed is I seem to get out of breath even going up stairs and I

there seems to be a disconnect with finding the right words when i am talking.

I havent had what I think are low cortisol symptoms, although I am not sure

exactly what they are other than a little antsy feeling I get on occasion. I

guess that maybe I need to cut back on the cytomel. I had increased because I

was feeling hypo, wanted to hold on to the IV iron I have been getting, and was

trying to increase every 3-5 days to keep up with the decline in T4. Could it

also be that I need to cut back on HC? Could it be that I am utiizing the T3 so

well that I don't need as much?

Steve

>

> >It's starnge though because I was not having an anxiety ,wich usualy I get

with an adrenalin but we are so complex,never know exactly what is happening.

> >Thanks for your help

>

> Difficult to say, did you take temperatures or pulse??

>

> If you had a virus starting up that could cause the waking and hot

> feelings as well of course.

>

> It may just be your body sorting itself out or be a sex hormone thing.

>

> If it happens again check temperature and pulse if you are that awake

> and also try the glass of salted water

>

> Nick

>

February 23, 2010

Nick,

When I felt very hot again I did measure the temperature anmd for my surprise

was 98.2.I lowered the HC dose and I'm staying on it for now,but also that did

happen when I had to take a brake from my progesterone.I lowered th eT3 dose

from 57.5mcg to 52mcg yesterday and last night I did not have this problem but I

don't think it was from the T3 dose.Only 5mcg have not made such a difference

before for me.I will keep truck of it and will see what will happened.

Thanks

Milena

>

> >It's starnge though because I was not having an anxiety ,wich usualy I get

with an adrenalin but we are so complex,never know exactly what is happening.

> >Thanks for your help

>

> Difficult to say, did you take temperatures or pulse??

>

> If you had a virus starting up that could cause the waking and hot

> feelings as well of course.

>

> It may just be your body sorting itself out or be a sex hormone thing.

>

> If it happens again check temperature and pulse if you are that awake

> and also try the glass of salted water

>

> Nick

>

February 23, 2010

Well I didn't change a thing last night except instead of taking 5mcg of cytomel

at bed I took 2.5 and put the other 2.5 on the night stand to take when I woke

up in the night. I woke up around 3 but not hot or heart pounding like all

night the night before, just to go to the bathroom, and so I took the other 2.5.

SO no idea what is happening or what to do. I feel like I am not hypo in some

ways with being so hot and high temps yesterday, but I'm only on 35-40 mcg

cytomel. I don't feel like I am havng adrenaline surges or that my adrenals are

stressed. I have no idea what to do from here. Lower cytomel, lower HC, raise

HC.....Could taking too much HC cause hyperthyroid symptoms on a this low of a

cytomel dose? ANYONE??

Steve

> >

> > >It's starnge though because I was not having an anxiety ,wich usualy I get

with an adrenalin but we are so complex,never know exactly what is happening.

> > >Thanks for your help

> >

> > Difficult to say, did you take temperatures or pulse??

> >

> > If you had a virus starting up that could cause the waking and hot

> > feelings as well of course.

> >

> > It may just be your body sorting itself out or be a sex hormone thing.

> >

> > If it happens again check temperature and pulse if you are that awake

> > and also try the glass of salted water

> >

> > Nick

> >

>

February 23, 2010