Guest guest Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Another thought is that you may be being too black/white about IE, which can really play in to a need to control and be " perfect. " Which of course brings out our inner rebel-child! If IE is about anything its about not being perfect, so maybe try and relax a little bit. It is ok if you overeat if you find something delicious, or undereat if you don't, you'll be alright! I struggled with this for years, and I still do sometimes. The thing I've noticed about actually obeying body signals instead of just hearing them is that you have to be ready emotionally. You're body may be ready, but you mind may still feel deprived. IE is about listening to the body, not the mind but we can't escape the fact that those two things are connected and IE will never work unless they're both happy. I know that when I want to eat more than my body needs, there's usually something going on with the rest of my life. I may not be binging or really overeating, but I might have a hard time waiting until I'm hungry or forgetting to listen to hunger cues. I suggest doing a little soul searching to make sure everything's all right on an emotional level, because (in my experience) IE comes pretty naturally when I'm in a good place emotionally. McKella > > I'm really struggling at the moment and feeling " out of control " with food and practicing IE. I've observed that When I get too focused on ONLY eating when I am certain I am hungry and they stopping the exact moment I'm satisfied , I'm left feeling very unsatisfied and the part of me that wants more begins to rebel…and well when she starts to really yell at me the overeating is just around the corner (just like I used to eventually " rebel " against other more severe eating regimes). Relaxing into this lifestyle and food relationship is very hard. I'm finding myself eating all the time and I start to crave a set of external boundaries – a quick diet fix that will make me feel like I'm in the driver's seat again and not at the mercy of my insatiable hunger and cravings. > I am very proud that I have not started a diet in months, nor have I exercised obscene amounts….but I've gained a noticeable amount of weight, which has set me into a panic mode now that summer has arrived and I'm at an age where my friends and I enjoy going to the beach in body-bearing swim wear. > I trust my internal signals but I'm struggling to listen and act on them. I'm having more trouble with the stop than the go (I have NO problem eating when I'm hungry- although since I know I have a limited hunger I get stressed that I'm not going to eat something that will satisfy me, and that I will regret the choice I've made after I've already passed my fullness limit- too little hunger and too many things I want to eat!) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 I remember someone saying that to be too rigid with no-diet, we actually turn it into a diet.For example...in the morning I often make oatmeal, usually about the same amount. Some days I am satisfied when I finish the bowl. Some days I am satisfied when there are a couple of spoonfuls left. Well, I'm not going to throw that away...I'm satisfied but not full, and even if I eat the last little bit I'm still not full. Now, if I'm eating out and I have too much, I easily leave the rest on my plate. CaroleTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sun, May 29, 2011 10:01:25 AMSubject: Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence Another thought is that you may be being too black/white about IE, which can really play in to a need to control and be "perfect." Which of course brings out our inner rebel-child! If IE is about anything its about not being perfect, so maybe try and relax a little bit. It is ok if you overeat if you find something delicious, or undereat if you don't, you'll be alright! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 I have a hard time with the two concepts of " full " and " satisfied " . I can be full but not satisfied real easily. And sometimes I think I feel satisfied but not full. Any feedback(interesting choice of words) on that? Sandy I remember someone saying that to be too rigid with no-diet, we actually turn it into a diet.For example...in the morning I often make oatmeal, usually about the same amount. Some days I am satisfied when I finish the bowl. Some days I am satisfied when there are a couple of spoonfuls left. Well, I'm not going to throw that away...I'm satisfied but not full, and even if I eat the last little bit I'm still not full. Now, if I'm eating out and I have too much, I easily leave the rest on my plate. Carole To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sun, May 29, 2011 10:01:25 AMSubject: Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence Another thought is that you may be being too black/white about IE, which can really play in to a need to control and be " perfect. " Which of course brings out our inner rebel-child! If IE is about anything its about not being perfect, so maybe try and relax a little bit. It is ok if you overeat if you find something delicious, or undereat if you don't, you'll be alright! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Hi Sandy,To me, satisfied has two meanings. The first meaning is simply, "Did I eat enough? Am I still hungry?" I can be satisfied without feeling full.My second definition of being satisfied is, "Did I eat what I really wanted, or did I eat what I thought I should eat or what was convenient. I can see with this meaning of satisfied how it is very easy to feel full without being satisfied. I think many binges start this way. In an effort to be "good" we strain to avoid a certain food, fill up with other stuff, end up eating much more that if we had simply honored our hunger. I used to do this...eating all sorts of "good for me" food, not being satisfied, and in the end eating what it was I wanted in the first place.CaroleTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tue, May 31, 2011 9:02:57 AMSubject: Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence I have a hard time with the two concepts of "full" and "satisfied". I can be full but not satisfied real easily. And sometimes I think I feel satisfied but not full. Any feedback(interesting choice of words) on that? Sandy I remember someone saying that to be too rigid with no-diet, we actually turn it into a diet.For example...in the morning I often make oatmeal, usually about the same amount. Some days I am satisfied when I finish the bowl. Some days I am satisfied when there are a couple of spoonfuls left. Well, I'm not going to throw that away...I'm satisfied but not full, and even if I eat the last little bit I'm still not full. Now, if I'm eating out and I have too much, I easily leave the rest on my plate. Carole To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sun, May 29, 2011 10:01:25 AMSubject: Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence Another thought is that you may be being too black/white about IE, which can really play in to a need to control and be "perfect." Which of course brings out our inner rebel-child! If IE is about anything its about not being perfect, so maybe try and relax a little bit. It is ok if you overeat if you find something delicious, or undereat if you don't, you'll be alright! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Thanks. That was " food " for thought. I'm still working on it though. Sandy Hi Sandy,To me, satisfied has two meanings. The first meaning is simply, " Did I eat enough? Am I still hungry? " I can be satisfied without feeling full. My second definition of being satisfied is, " Did I eat what I really wanted, or did I eat what I thought I should eat or what was convenient. I can see with this meaning of satisfied how it is very easy to feel full without being satisfied. I think many binges start this way. In an effort to be " good " we strain to avoid a certain food, fill up with other stuff, end up eating much more that if we had simply honored our hunger. I used to do this...eating all sorts of " good for me " food, not being satisfied, and in the end eating what it was I wanted in the first place. Carole To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tue, May 31, 2011 9:02:57 AMSubject: Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence I have a hard time with the two concepts of " full " and " satisfied " . I can be full but not satisfied real easily. And sometimes I think I feel satisfied but not full. Any feedback(interesting choice of words) on that? Sandy I remember someone saying that to be too rigid with no-diet, we actually turn it into a diet.For example...in the morning I often make oatmeal, usually about the same amount. Some days I am satisfied when I finish the bowl. Some days I am satisfied when there are a couple of spoonfuls left. Well, I'm not going to throw that away...I'm satisfied but not full, and even if I eat the last little bit I'm still not full. Now, if I'm eating out and I have too much, I easily leave the rest on my plate. Carole To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sun, May 29, 2011 10:01:25 AMSubject: Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence Another thought is that you may be being too black/white about IE, which can really play in to a need to control and be " perfect. " Which of course brings out our inner rebel-child! If IE is about anything its about not being perfect, so maybe try and relax a little bit. It is ok if you overeat if you find something delicious, or undereat if you don't, you'll be alright! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 I don't think I could ever consider my life without sweets but I also think that sometimes when I want a sweet now I really crave a piece of fresh fruit instead of candy, etc. But not often. It sound like you have made amazing progress when you eat and are not hungry. And you can even notice that is a big step and that you are able to identify the emotions and deal with that. Part of what you said sounded maybe a little like " diet mentality " though. That " should " word and that you are imaging few sweets in the future. I think too that the feeling of loss is understandable. That's one of those feelings you might look at a little more. These are just some suggestions and ideas that are floating around in my head. Take what fits for you and discard the rest. I still say you are doing great! Be kind to yourself. Sandy I have a similar experience all the time. Since starting IE in February I have been eating a lot of the things that I used to not allow myself to eat freely. The thing I struggled with most before was sweets and I now let myself have those when I feel like them. My trouble is that now that I can have sweets when I feel like them, I don't actually feel like them that much. And I think I am feeling a little cheated because I've been wanting them all my life and now that I am letting myself I am not that interested. Sweets used to be special and satisfying partly because they were not allowed. I find that I still do eat sweets several times a week to several times a day just because I can. But I also am starting to feel like I should let go of that. I notice that when I am not eating from hunger I can usually identify some things that are going on emotionally and sometimes I let myself have something sweet and other times just noticing what's going on takes care of the craving. But I can't help feeling a loss at the thought that my life going forward will have few sweets in it. > > > >> > >> > >> I remember someone saying that to be too rigid with no-diet, we actually > >> turn it into a diet. > >> > >> For example...in the morning I often make oatmeal, usually about the same > >> amount. Some days I am satisfied when I finish the bowl. Some days I am > >> satisfied when there are a couple of spoonfuls left. Well, I'm not going to > >> throw that away...I'm satisfied but not full, and even if I eat the last > >> little bit I'm still not full. Now, if I'm eating out and I have too much, I > >> easily leave the rest on my plate. > >> Carole > >> > >> > >> *From:* Casey Anne > >> *To:* IntuitiveEating_Support > >> *Sent:* Sun, May 29, 2011 10:01:25 AM > >> *Subject:* Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ > >> obeying the internal intelligence > >> > >> > >> > >> Another thought is that you may be being too black/white about IE, which > >> can really play in to a need to control and be " perfect. " Which of course > >> brings out our inner rebel-child! If IE is about anything its about not > >> being perfect, so maybe try and relax a little bit. It is ok if you overeat > >> if you find something delicious, or undereat if you don't, you'll be > >> alright! > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Hi, I'm new here. I read the previous few posts and enjoyed them. I have learned by following certain concepts of IE and recognizing boundaries that if I want candy, I can have it. I'm realizing my fullness signals and right now I'm full. Maybe I ate a little too much for lunch, I'm not sure because I'm still working on my signals, but I do know I don't like being hungry after I eat. So now I'm full, maybe a little too full, I have to figure that out as time goes by. Although I was reading about candy, and realizing that I used to have a huge craving for certain types of candy, I no longer have that craving because I know I can have it, and right now I'm full. Does that make sense? I hope so. Anyway, I'm looking forward to enjoying my participation here. It took me a long time to get to this point, though, so take heart. Tai.To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, June 6, 2011 1:55 PMSubject: Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence I don't think I could ever consider my life without sweets but I also think that sometimes when I want a sweet now I really crave a piece of fresh fruit instead of candy, etc. But not often. It sound like you have made amazing progress when you eat and are not hungry. And you can even notice that is a big step and that you are able to identify the emotions and deal with that. Part of what you said sounded maybe a little like "diet mentality" though. That "should" word and that you are imaging few sweets in the future. I think too that the feeling of loss is understandable. That's one of those feelings you might look at a little more. These are just some suggestions and ideas that are floating around in my head. Take what fits for you and discard the rest. I still say you are doing great! Be kind to yourself. Sandy I have a similar experience all the time. Since starting IE in February I have been eating a lot of the things that I used to not allow myself to eat freely. The thing I struggled with most before was sweets and I now let myself have those when I feel like them. My trouble is that now that I can have sweets when I feel like them, I don't actually feel like them that much. And I think I am feeling a little cheated because I've been wanting them all my life and now that I am letting myself I am not that interested. Sweets used to be special and satisfying partly because they were not allowed. I find that I still do eat sweets several times a week to several times a day just because I can. But I also am starting to feel like I should let go of that. I notice that when I am not eating from hunger I can usually identify some things that are going on emotionally and sometimes I let myself have something sweet and other times just noticing what's going on takes care of the craving. But I can't help feeling a loss at the thought that my life going forward will have few sweets in it. > > > >> > >> > >> I remember someone saying that to be too rigid with no-diet, we actually > >> turn it into a diet. > >> > >> For example...in the morning I often make oatmeal, usually about the same > >> amount. Some days I am satisfied when I finish the bowl. Some days I am > >> satisfied when there are a couple of spoonfuls left. Well, I'm not going to > >> throw that away...I'm satisfied but not full, and even if I eat the last > >> little bit I'm still not full. Now, if I'm eating out and I have too much, I > >> easily leave the rest on my plate. > >> Carole > >> > >> > >> *From:* Casey Anne > >> *To:* IntuitiveEating_Support > >> *Sent:* Sun, May 29, 2011 10:01:25 AM > >> *Subject:* Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ > >> obeying the internal intelligence > >> > >> > >> > >> Another thought is that you may be being too black/white about IE, which > >> can really play in to a need to control and be "perfect." Which of course > >> brings out our inner rebel-child! If IE is about anything its about not > >> being perfect, so maybe try and relax a little bit. It is ok if you overeat > >> if you find something delicious, or undereat if you don't, you'll be > >> alright! > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Great thread!I just wanted to add that sometimes if we eat too fast, and don't focus on the food and enjoyment of it, we may feel unsatisfied. this is another reason that multitasking isn't great for IE. if you are excited about eating, and the food you have... REVEL in it! enjoy every second! otherwise it is gone all too soon and you may be full but you won't be satisfied! alternatively, if we were hoping from an escape from reality through eating, and we don't get that (because we ate consciously, or for some other reason), we may feel full but not satisfied... and the reason here is that our EMOTIONAL needs were not met by eating. in which case we need to get creative in first identifying our emotional needs, and then MEETING those emotional needs. like, i know people talk about wanting a break from work or homework to eat, and as long as they were eating they felt justified in taking a break... but if they were done eating, they had to go back to work. which meant if they weren't very hungry, they didn't get much of a break. not fair! so in this case, recognizing that we need a break, WHETHER OR NOT we are hungry, and then TAKING THAT BREAK can be hugely helpful. (and we can eat, or not, during that break, depending on if we are hungry.) i have recognized a common thread amongst folks on this listserve that we are pretty good at meeting OTHERS' needs (emotional), but not so good at meeting our own.so maybe, especially for those who are struggling with IE, we should just focus on meeting our emotional needs, first and foremost! how much of our " eating issues " would fall away if we were getting our emotional needs met on a consistent basis??? " food " for thought...abby Hi, I'm new here. I read the previous few posts and enjoyed them. I have learned by following certain concepts of IE and recognizing boundaries that if I want candy, I can have it. I'm realizing my fullness signals and right now I'm full. Maybe I ate a little too much for lunch, I'm not sure because I'm still working on my signals, but I do know I don't like being hungry after I eat. So now I'm full, maybe a little too full, I have to figure that out as time goes by. Although I was reading about candy, and realizing that I used to have a huge craving for certain types of candy, I no longer have that craving because I know I can have it, and right now I'm full. Does that make sense? I hope so. Anyway, I'm looking forward to enjoying my participation here. It took me a long time to get to this point, though, so take heart. Tai. To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, June 6, 2011 1:55 PMSubject: Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence I don't think I could ever consider my life without sweets but I also think that sometimes when I want a sweet now I really crave a piece of fresh fruit instead of candy, etc. But not often. It sound like you have made amazing progress when you eat and are not hungry. And you can even notice that is a big step and that you are able to identify the emotions and deal with that. Part of what you said sounded maybe a little like " diet mentality " though. That " should " word and that you are imaging few sweets in the future. I think too that the feeling of loss is understandable. That's one of those feelings you might look at a little more. These are just some suggestions and ideas that are floating around in my head. Take what fits for you and discard the rest. I still say you are doing great! Be kind to yourself. Sandy I have a similar experience all the time. Since starting IE in February I have been eating a lot of the things that I used to not allow myself to eat freely. The thing I struggled with most before was sweets and I now let myself have those when I feel like them. My trouble is that now that I can have sweets when I feel like them, I don't actually feel like them that much. And I think I am feeling a little cheated because I've been wanting them all my life and now that I am letting myself I am not that interested. Sweets used to be special and satisfying partly because they were not allowed. I find that I still do eat sweets several times a week to several times a day just because I can. But I also am starting to feel like I should let go of that. I notice that when I am not eating from hunger I can usually identify some things that are going on emotionally and sometimes I let myself have something sweet and other times just noticing what's going on takes care of the craving. But I can't help feeling a loss at the thought that my life going forward will have few sweets in it. > > > >> > >> > >> I remember someone saying that to be too rigid with no-diet, we actually > >> turn it into a diet. > >> > >> For example...in the morning I often make oatmeal, usually about the same > >> amount. Some days I am satisfied when I finish the bowl. Some days I am > >> satisfied when there are a couple of spoonfuls left. Well, I'm not going to > >> throw that away...I'm satisfied but not full, and even if I eat the last > >> little bit I'm still not full. Now, if I'm eating out and I have too much, I > >> easily leave the rest on my plate. > >> Carole > >> > >> > >> *From:* Casey Anne > >> *To:* IntuitiveEating_Support > >> *Sent:* Sun, May 29, 2011 10:01:25 AM > >> *Subject:* Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ > >> obeying the internal intelligence > >> > >> > >> > >> Another thought is that you may be being too black/white about IE, which > >> can really play in to a need to control and be " perfect. " Which of course > >> brings out our inner rebel-child! If IE is about anything its about not > >> being perfect, so maybe try and relax a little bit. It is ok if you overeat > >> if you find something delicious, or undereat if you don't, you'll be > >> alright! > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Glad to have you with us. Sounds like you are doing a really good job. I just finished eating a couple of hours ago and I feel hungry already. That seems to be " normal " for me. I get hungry every 2 hours. Maybe I don't eat enough at a feeding or maybe I could chose better/healthier foods that sustain me longer. If I eat a salad, which I love so it's not a diet thing, I'm hungry in about an hour. Gillian suggested adding fruit, protein, nuts. That helps some. Maybe I still associate salad with diet and hunger. I am not ready for having " danger " foods in the house, like candy bars, or cookies, cake, etc. I am ok with those if I go out to eat and can take it or leave it. But if I have it in the house I just keep eating and eating even though I am not hungry. I can say I did that with hot fudge sundaes and just stopped liking them after 2 weeks. I still eat too fast to know if I am full sometimes. I made a big step forward this weekend though. My daughter and I had to put our dog down. She was 18, deaf, blind, full of arthritis, had a disc problem and was doing ok but lately she had lost bladder and bowel control and most of her hair. Then Saturday she threw up and was stumbling around. The vet said he was pretty sure she had a brain tumor. So it was really time to let her go. But it has been very emotional and I have not turned to food but have just let myself feel my feelings and cry a lot. It feels a lot better than eating and numbing. Now if I can just do as well with my eating out of boredom or loneliness, that will be great. Hope I didn't bum any of you out by my story of my dog. I have a lot of good memories of her too. Sandy Hi, I'm new here. I read the previous few posts and enjoyed them. I have learned by following certain concepts of IE and recognizing boundaries that if I want candy, I can have it. I'm realizing my fullness signals and right now I'm full. Maybe I ate a little too much for lunch, I'm not sure because I'm still working on my signals, but I do know I don't like being hungry after I eat. So now I'm full, maybe a little too full, I have to figure that out as time goes by. Although I was reading about candy, and realizing that I used to have a huge craving for certain types of candy, I no longer have that craving because I know I can have it, and right now I'm full. Does that make sense? I hope so. Anyway, I'm looking forward to enjoying my participation here. It took me a long time to get to this point, though, so take heart. Tai. To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, June 6, 2011 1:55 PMSubject: Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence I don't think I could ever consider my life without sweets but I also think that sometimes when I want a sweet now I really crave a piece of fresh fruit instead of candy, etc. But not often. It sound like you have made amazing progress when you eat and are not hungry. And you can even notice that is a big step and that you are able to identify the emotions and deal with that. Part of what you said sounded maybe a little like " diet mentality " though. That " should " word and that you are imaging few sweets in the future. I think too that the feeling of loss is understandable. That's one of those feelings you might look at a little more. These are just some suggestions and ideas that are floating around in my head. Take what fits for you and discard the rest. I still say you are doing great! Be kind to yourself. Sandy I have a similar experience all the time. Since starting IE in February I have been eating a lot of the things that I used to not allow myself to eat freely. The thing I struggled with most before was sweets and I now let myself have those when I feel like them. My trouble is that now that I can have sweets when I feel like them, I don't actually feel like them that much. And I think I am feeling a little cheated because I've been wanting them all my life and now that I am letting myself I am not that interested. Sweets used to be special and satisfying partly because they were not allowed. I find that I still do eat sweets several times a week to several times a day just because I can. But I also am starting to feel like I should let go of that. I notice that when I am not eating from hunger I can usually identify some things that are going on emotionally and sometimes I let myself have something sweet and other times just noticing what's going on takes care of the craving. But I can't help feeling a loss at the thought that my life going forward will have few sweets in it. > > > >> > >> > >> I remember someone saying that to be too rigid with no-diet, we actually > >> turn it into a diet. > >> > >> For example...in the morning I often make oatmeal, usually about the same > >> amount. Some days I am satisfied when I finish the bowl. Some days I am > >> satisfied when there are a couple of spoonfuls left. Well, I'm not going to > >> throw that away...I'm satisfied but not full, and even if I eat the last > >> little bit I'm still not full. Now, if I'm eating out and I have too much, I > >> easily leave the rest on my plate. > >> Carole > >> > >> > >> *From:* Casey Anne > >> *To:* IntuitiveEating_Support > >> *Sent:* Sun, May 29, 2011 10:01:25 AM > >> *Subject:* Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ > >> obeying the internal intelligence > >> > >> > >> > >> Another thought is that you may be being too black/white about IE, which > >> can really play in to a need to control and be " perfect. " Which of course > >> brings out our inner rebel-child! If IE is about anything its about not > >> being perfect, so maybe try and relax a little bit. It is ok if you overeat > >> if you find something delicious, or undereat if you don't, you'll be > >> alright! > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Excellent " food " for thought. Thanks. Sandy Great thread!I just wanted to add that sometimes if we eat too fast, and don't focus on the food and enjoyment of it, we may feel unsatisfied. this is another reason that multitasking isn't great for IE. if you are excited about eating, and the food you have... REVEL in it! enjoy every second! otherwise it is gone all too soon and you may be full but you won't be satisfied! alternatively, if we were hoping from an escape from reality through eating, and we don't get that (because we ate consciously, or for some other reason), we may feel full but not satisfied... and the reason here is that our EMOTIONAL needs were not met by eating. in which case we need to get creative in first identifying our emotional needs, and then MEETING those emotional needs. like, i know people talk about wanting a break from work or homework to eat, and as long as they were eating they felt justified in taking a break... but if they were done eating, they had to go back to work. which meant if they weren't very hungry, they didn't get much of a break. not fair! so in this case, recognizing that we need a break, WHETHER OR NOT we are hungry, and then TAKING THAT BREAK can be hugely helpful. (and we can eat, or not, during that break, depending on if we are hungry.) i have recognized a common thread amongst folks on this listserve that we are pretty good at meeting OTHERS' needs (emotional), but not so good at meeting our own.so maybe, especially for those who are struggling with IE, we should just focus on meeting our emotional needs, first and foremost! how much of our " eating issues " would fall away if we were getting our emotional needs met on a consistent basis??? " food " for thought...abby Hi, I'm new here. I read the previous few posts and enjoyed them. I have learned by following certain concepts of IE and recognizing boundaries that if I want candy, I can have it. I'm realizing my fullness signals and right now I'm full. Maybe I ate a little too much for lunch, I'm not sure because I'm still working on my signals, but I do know I don't like being hungry after I eat. So now I'm full, maybe a little too full, I have to figure that out as time goes by. Although I was reading about candy, and realizing that I used to have a huge craving for certain types of candy, I no longer have that craving because I know I can have it, and right now I'm full. Does that make sense? I hope so. Anyway, I'm looking forward to enjoying my participation here. It took me a long time to get to this point, though, so take heart. Tai. To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, June 6, 2011 1:55 PMSubject: Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence I don't think I could ever consider my life without sweets but I also think that sometimes when I want a sweet now I really crave a piece of fresh fruit instead of candy, etc. But not often. It sound like you have made amazing progress when you eat and are not hungry. And you can even notice that is a big step and that you are able to identify the emotions and deal with that. Part of what you said sounded maybe a little like " diet mentality " though. That " should " word and that you are imaging few sweets in the future. I think too that the feeling of loss is understandable. That's one of those feelings you might look at a little more. These are just some suggestions and ideas that are floating around in my head. Take what fits for you and discard the rest. I still say you are doing great! Be kind to yourself. Sandy I have a similar experience all the time. Since starting IE in February I have been eating a lot of the things that I used to not allow myself to eat freely. The thing I struggled with most before was sweets and I now let myself have those when I feel like them. My trouble is that now that I can have sweets when I feel like them, I don't actually feel like them that much. And I think I am feeling a little cheated because I've been wanting them all my life and now that I am letting myself I am not that interested. Sweets used to be special and satisfying partly because they were not allowed. I find that I still do eat sweets several times a week to several times a day just because I can. But I also am starting to feel like I should let go of that. I notice that when I am not eating from hunger I can usually identify some things that are going on emotionally and sometimes I let myself have something sweet and other times just noticing what's going on takes care of the craving. But I can't help feeling a loss at the thought that my life going forward will have few sweets in it. > > > >> > >> > >> I remember someone saying that to be too rigid with no-diet, we actually > >> turn it into a diet. > >> > >> For example...in the morning I often make oatmeal, usually about the same > >> amount. Some days I am satisfied when I finish the bowl. Some days I am > >> satisfied when there are a couple of spoonfuls left. Well, I'm not going to > >> throw that away...I'm satisfied but not full, and even if I eat the last > >> little bit I'm still not full. Now, if I'm eating out and I have too much, I > >> easily leave the rest on my plate. > >> Carole > >> > >> > >> *From:* Casey Anne > >> *To:* IntuitiveEating_Support > >> *Sent:* Sun, May 29, 2011 10:01:25 AM > >> *Subject:* Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ > >> obeying the internal intelligence > >> > >> > >> > >> Another thought is that you may be being too black/white about IE, which > >> can really play in to a need to control and be " perfect. " Which of course > >> brings out our inner rebel-child! If IE is about anything its about not > >> being perfect, so maybe try and relax a little bit. It is ok if you overeat > >> if you find something delicious, or undereat if you don't, you'll be > >> alright! > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 really good thought, Abby, about meeting one's own emotional needs. I'll think about it, let it settle. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, June 6, 2011 3:21 PMSubject: Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence Great thread!I just wanted to add that sometimes if we eat too fast, and don't focus on the food and enjoyment of it, we may feel unsatisfied. this is another reason that multitasking isn't great for IE. if you are excited about eating, and the food you have... REVEL in it! enjoy every second! otherwise it is gone all too soon and you may be full but you won't be satisfied! alternatively, if we were hoping from an escape from reality through eating, and we don't get that (because we ate consciously, or for some other reason), we may feel full but not satisfied... and the reason here is that our EMOTIONAL needs were not met by eating. in which case we need to get creative in first identifying our emotional needs, and then MEETING those emotional needs. like, i know people talk about wanting a break from work or homework to eat, and as long as they were eating they felt justified in taking a break... but if they were done eating, they had to go back to work. which meant if they weren't very hungry, they didn't get much of a break. not fair! so in this case, recognizing that we need a break, WHETHER OR NOT we are hungry, and then TAKING THAT BREAK can be hugely helpful. (and we can eat, or not, during that break, depending on if we are hungry.) i have recognized a common thread amongst folks on this listserve that we are pretty good at meeting OTHERS' needs (emotional), but not so good at meeting our own.so maybe, especially for those who are struggling with IE, we should just focus on meeting our emotional needs, first and foremost! how much of our "eating issues" would fall away if we were getting our emotional needs met on a consistent basis??? "food" for thought...abby Hi, I'm new here. I read the previous few posts and enjoyed them. I have learned by following certain concepts of IE and recognizing boundaries that if I want candy, I can have it. I'm realizing my fullness signals and right now I'm full. Maybe I ate a little too much for lunch, I'm not sure because I'm still working on my signals, but I do know I don't like being hungry after I eat. So now I'm full, maybe a little too full, I have to figure that out as time goes by. Although I was reading about candy, and realizing that I used to have a huge craving for certain types of candy, I no longer have that craving because I know I can have it, and right now I'm full. Does that make sense? I hope so. Anyway, I'm looking forward to enjoying my participation here. It took me a long time to get to this point, though, so take heart. Tai. To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, June 6, 2011 1:55 PMSubject: Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence I don't think I could ever consider my life without sweets but I also think that sometimes when I want a sweet now I really crave a piece of fresh fruit instead of candy, etc. But not often. It sound like you have made amazing progress when you eat and are not hungry. And you can even notice that is a big step and that you are able to identify the emotions and deal with that. Part of what you said sounded maybe a little like "diet mentality" though. That "should" word and that you are imaging few sweets in the future. I think too that the feeling of loss is understandable. That's one of those feelings you might look at a little more. These are just some suggestions and ideas that are floating around in my head. Take what fits for you and discard the rest. I still say you are doing great! Be kind to yourself. Sandy I have a similar experience all the time. Since starting IE in February I have been eating a lot of the things that I used to not allow myself to eat freely. The thing I struggled with most before was sweets and I now let myself have those when I feel like them. My trouble is that now that I can have sweets when I feel like them, I don't actually feel like them that much. And I think I am feeling a little cheated because I've been wanting them all my life and now that I am letting myself I am not that interested. Sweets used to be special and satisfying partly because they were not allowed. I find that I still do eat sweets several times a week to several times a day just because I can. But I also am starting to feel like I should let go of that. I notice that when I am not eating from hunger I can usually identify some things that are going on emotionally and sometimes I let myself have something sweet and other times just noticing what's going on takes care of the craving. But I can't help feeling a loss at the thought that my life going forward will have few sweets in it. > > > >> > >> > >> I remember someone saying that to be too rigid with no-diet, we actually > >> turn it into a diet. > >> > >> For example...in the morning I often make oatmeal, usually about the same > >> amount. Some days I am satisfied when I finish the bowl. Some days I am > >> satisfied when there are a couple of spoonfuls left. Well, I'm not going to > >> throw that away...I'm satisfied but not full, and even if I eat the last > >> little bit I'm still not full. Now, if I'm eating out and I have too much, I > >> easily leave the rest on my plate. > >> Carole > >> > >> > >> *From:* Casey Anne > >> *To:* IntuitiveEating_Support > >> *Sent:* Sun, May 29, 2011 10:01:25 AM > >> *Subject:* Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ > >> obeying the internal intelligence > >> > >> > >> > >> Another thought is that you may be being too black/white about IE, which > >> can really play in to a need to control and be "perfect." Which of course > >> brings out our inner rebel-child! If IE is about anything its about not > >> being perfect, so maybe try and relax a little bit. It is ok if you overeat > >> if you find something delicious, or undereat if you don't, you'll be > >> alright! > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Hi, Sandy, you didn't bum me out with the story of putting your dog down. That can be quite upsetting and saddening. Of course, you probably did her a favor by allowing her to go. I know you will miss her. I wish I could have a cat but right now I cannot have any pets except maybe fish and I don't find pleasure in watching fish, but I try not to think about toooo much. I'd love a cat to stroke, but cannot have one. Since I've been using healthful boundaries, yes, I don't deprive myself, some days are better than others, but I have things in the fridge that I like to eat when I'm hungry but not hungry, I'm sure you know what I mean. I go to a deli that makes tuna or chicken salad and I buy it by the pound and a spoonful or two does the job, until my next real meal. This weekend I didn't do the greatest, but I decided not to beat myself up mentally over it. I don't keep candy in the house but I do have ice cream and I used to believe that was a danger food. It was a danger food. But now when I find myself wanting something sweet and rich, like ice cream, I'm able to take a few spoonfuls, not a lot. I know where you're at, Sandy, regarding the danger foods. I've been there. After you get used to the idea that food should not be your enemy, it gets a little better. No, it gets a lot better. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, June 6, 2011 3:27 PMSubject: Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence Glad to have you with us. Sounds like you are doing a really good job. I just finished eating a couple of hours ago and I feel hungry already. That seems to be "normal" for me. I get hungry every 2 hours. Maybe I don't eat enough at a feeding or maybe I could chose better/healthier foods that sustain me longer. If I eat a salad, which I love so it's not a diet thing, I'm hungry in about an hour. Gillian suggested adding fruit, protein, nuts. That helps some. Maybe I still associate salad with diet and hunger. I am not ready for having "danger" foods in the house, like candy bars, or cookies, cake, etc. I am ok with those if I go out to eat and can take it or leave it. But if I have it in the house I just keep eating and eating even though I am not hungry. I can say I did that with hot fudge sundaes and just stopped liking them after 2 weeks. I still eat too fast to know if I am full sometimes. I made a big step forward this weekend though. My daughter and I had to put our dog down. She was 18, deaf, blind, full of arthritis, had a disc problem and was doing ok but lately she had lost bladder and bowel control and most of her hair. Then Saturday she threw up and was stumbling around. The vet said he was pretty sure she had a brain tumor. So it was really time to let her go. But it has been very emotional and I have not turned to food but have just let myself feel my feelings and cry a lot. It feels a lot better than eating and numbing. Now if I can just do as well with my eating out of boredom or loneliness, that will be great. Hope I didn't bum any of you out by my story of my dog. I have a lot of good memories of her too. Sandy Hi, I'm new here. I read the previous few posts and enjoyed them. I have learned by following certain concepts of IE and recognizing boundaries that if I want candy, I can have it. I'm realizing my fullness signals and right now I'm full. Maybe I ate a little too much for lunch, I'm not sure because I'm still working on my signals, but I do know I don't like being hungry after I eat. So now I'm full, maybe a little too full, I have to figure that out as time goes by. Although I was reading about candy, and realizing that I used to have a huge craving for certain types of candy, I no longer have that craving because I know I can have it, and right now I'm full. Does that make sense? I hope so. Anyway, I'm looking forward to enjoying my participation here. It took me a long time to get to this point, though, so take heart. Tai. To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, June 6, 2011 1:55 PMSubject: Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence I don't think I could ever consider my life without sweets but I also think that sometimes when I want a sweet now I really crave a piece of fresh fruit instead of candy, etc. But not often. It sound like you have made amazing progress when you eat and are not hungry. And you can even notice that is a big step and that you are able to identify the emotions and deal with that. Part of what you said sounded maybe a little like "diet mentality" though. That "should" word and that you are imaging few sweets in the future. I think too that the feeling of loss is understandable. That's one of those feelings you might look at a little more. These are just some suggestions and ideas that are floating around in my head. Take what fits for you and discard the rest. I still say you are doing great! Be kind to yourself. Sandy I have a similar experience all the time. Since starting IE in February I have been eating a lot of the things that I used to not allow myself to eat freely. The thing I struggled with most before was sweets and I now let myself have those when I feel like them. My trouble is that now that I can have sweets when I feel like them, I don't actually feel like them that much. And I think I am feeling a little cheated because I've been wanting them all my life and now that I am letting myself I am not that interested. Sweets used to be special and satisfying partly because they were not allowed. I find that I still do eat sweets several times a week to several times a day just because I can. But I also am starting to feel like I should let go of that. I notice that when I am not eating from hunger I can usually identify some things that are going on emotionally and sometimes I let myself have something sweet and other times just noticing what's going on takes care of the craving. But I can't help feeling a loss at the thought that my life going forward will have few sweets in it. > > > >> > >> > >> I remember someone saying that to be too rigid with no-diet, we actually > >> turn it into a diet. > >> > >> For example...in the morning I often make oatmeal, usually about the same > >> amount. Some days I am satisfied when I finish the bowl. Some days I am > >> satisfied when there are a couple of spoonfuls left. Well, I'm not going to > >> throw that away...I'm satisfied but not full, and even if I eat the last > >> little bit I'm still not full. Now, if I'm eating out and I have too much, I > >> easily leave the rest on my plate. > >> Carole > >> > >> > >> *From:* Casey Anne > >> *To:* IntuitiveEating_Support > >> *Sent:* Sun, May 29, 2011 10:01:25 AM > >> *Subject:* Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ > >> obeying the internal intelligence > >> > >> > >> > >> Another thought is that you may be being too black/white about IE, which > >> can really play in to a need to control and be "perfect." Which of course > >> brings out our inner rebel-child! If IE is about anything its about not > >> being perfect, so maybe try and relax a little bit. It is ok if you overeat > >> if you find something delicious, or undereat if you don't, you'll be > >> alright! > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Hi, Sandy. 2-1/2 hours is about the norm for me when I begin to think of food again in a desirous way. Then I wait for my stomach to start. If I'm not ready for a meal, yes, I will have a small snack, like the tuna salad or maybe some fruit. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, June 6, 2011 3:27 PMSubject: Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence Glad to have you with us. Sounds like you are doing a really good job. I just finished eating a couple of hours ago and I feel hungry already. That seems to be "normal" for me. I get hungry every 2 hours. Maybe I don't eat enough at a feeding or maybe I could chose better/healthier foods that sustain me longer. If I eat a salad, which I love so it's not a diet thing, I'm hungry in about an hour. Gillian suggested adding fruit, protein, nuts. That helps some. Maybe I still associate salad with diet and hunger. I am not ready for having "danger" foods in the house, like candy bars, or cookies, cake, etc. I am ok with those if I go out to eat and can take it or leave it. But if I have it in the house I just keep eating and eating even though I am not hungry. I can say I did that with hot fudge sundaes and just stopped liking them after 2 weeks. I still eat too fast to know if I am full sometimes. I made a big step forward this weekend though. My daughter and I had to put our dog down. She was 18, deaf, blind, full of arthritis, had a disc problem and was doing ok but lately she had lost bladder and bowel control and most of her hair. Then Saturday she threw up and was stumbling around. The vet said he was pretty sure she had a brain tumor. So it was really time to let her go. But it has been very emotional and I have not turned to food but have just let myself feel my feelings and cry a lot. It feels a lot better than eating and numbing. Now if I can just do as well with my eating out of boredom or loneliness, that will be great. Hope I didn't bum any of you out by my story of my dog. I have a lot of good memories of her too. Sandy Hi, I'm new here. I read the previous few posts and enjoyed them. I have learned by following certain concepts of IE and recognizing boundaries that if I want candy, I can have it. I'm realizing my fullness signals and right now I'm full. Maybe I ate a little too much for lunch, I'm not sure because I'm still working on my signals, but I do know I don't like being hungry after I eat. So now I'm full, maybe a little too full, I have to figure that out as time goes by. Although I was reading about candy, and realizing that I used to have a huge craving for certain types of candy, I no longer have that craving because I know I can have it, and right now I'm full. Does that make sense? I hope so. Anyway, I'm looking forward to enjoying my participation here. It took me a long time to get to this point, though, so take heart. Tai. To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, June 6, 2011 1:55 PMSubject: Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence I don't think I could ever consider my life without sweets but I also think that sometimes when I want a sweet now I really crave a piece of fresh fruit instead of candy, etc. But not often. It sound like you have made amazing progress when you eat and are not hungry. And you can even notice that is a big step and that you are able to identify the emotions and deal with that. Part of what you said sounded maybe a little like "diet mentality" though. That "should" word and that you are imaging few sweets in the future. I think too that the feeling of loss is understandable. That's one of those feelings you might look at a little more. These are just some suggestions and ideas that are floating around in my head. Take what fits for you and discard the rest. I still say you are doing great! Be kind to yourself. Sandy I have a similar experience all the time. Since starting IE in February I have been eating a lot of the things that I used to not allow myself to eat freely. The thing I struggled with most before was sweets and I now let myself have those when I feel like them. My trouble is that now that I can have sweets when I feel like them, I don't actually feel like them that much. And I think I am feeling a little cheated because I've been wanting them all my life and now that I am letting myself I am not that interested. Sweets used to be special and satisfying partly because they were not allowed. I find that I still do eat sweets several times a week to several times a day just because I can. But I also am starting to feel like I should let go of that. I notice that when I am not eating from hunger I can usually identify some things that are going on emotionally and sometimes I let myself have something sweet and other times just noticing what's going on takes care of the craving. But I can't help feeling a loss at the thought that my life going forward will have few sweets in it. > > > >> > >> > >> I remember someone saying that to be too rigid with no-diet, we actually > >> turn it into a diet. > >> > >> For example...in the morning I often make oatmeal, usually about the same > >> amount. Some days I am satisfied when I finish the bowl. Some days I am > >> satisfied when there are a couple of spoonfuls left. Well, I'm not going to > >> throw that away...I'm satisfied but not full, and even if I eat the last > >> little bit I'm still not full. Now, if I'm eating out and I have too much, I > >> easily leave the rest on my plate. > >> Carole > >> > >> > >> *From:* Casey Anne > >> *To:* IntuitiveEating_Support > >> *Sent:* Sun, May 29, 2011 10:01:25 AM > >> *Subject:* Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ > >> obeying the internal intelligence > >> > >> > >> > >> Another thought is that you may be being too black/white about IE, which > >> can really play in to a need to control and be "perfect." Which of course > >> brings out our inner rebel-child! If IE is about anything its about not > >> being perfect, so maybe try and relax a little bit. It is ok if you overeat > >> if you find something delicious, or undereat if you don't, you'll be > >> alright! > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Hi, Sandy. 2-1/2 hours is about the norm for me when I begin to think of food again in a desirous way. Then I wait for my stomach to start. If I'm not ready for a meal, yes, I will have a small snack, like the tuna salad or maybe some fruit. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, June 6, 2011 3:27 PMSubject: Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence Glad to have you with us. Sounds like you are doing a really good job. I just finished eating a couple of hours ago and I feel hungry already. That seems to be "normal" for me. I get hungry every 2 hours. Maybe I don't eat enough at a feeding or maybe I could chose better/healthier foods that sustain me longer. If I eat a salad, which I love so it's not a diet thing, I'm hungry in about an hour. Gillian suggested adding fruit, protein, nuts. That helps some. Maybe I still associate salad with diet and hunger. I am not ready for having "danger" foods in the house, like candy bars, or cookies, cake, etc. I am ok with those if I go out to eat and can take it or leave it. But if I have it in the house I just keep eating and eating even though I am not hungry. I can say I did that with hot fudge sundaes and just stopped liking them after 2 weeks. I still eat too fast to know if I am full sometimes. I made a big step forward this weekend though. My daughter and I had to put our dog down. She was 18, deaf, blind, full of arthritis, had a disc problem and was doing ok but lately she had lost bladder and bowel control and most of her hair. Then Saturday she threw up and was stumbling around. The vet said he was pretty sure she had a brain tumor. So it was really time to let her go. But it has been very emotional and I have not turned to food but have just let myself feel my feelings and cry a lot. It feels a lot better than eating and numbing. Now if I can just do as well with my eating out of boredom or loneliness, that will be great. Hope I didn't bum any of you out by my story of my dog. I have a lot of good memories of her too. Sandy Hi, I'm new here. I read the previous few posts and enjoyed them. I have learned by following certain concepts of IE and recognizing boundaries that if I want candy, I can have it. I'm realizing my fullness signals and right now I'm full. Maybe I ate a little too much for lunch, I'm not sure because I'm still working on my signals, but I do know I don't like being hungry after I eat. So now I'm full, maybe a little too full, I have to figure that out as time goes by. Although I was reading about candy, and realizing that I used to have a huge craving for certain types of candy, I no longer have that craving because I know I can have it, and right now I'm full. Does that make sense? I hope so. Anyway, I'm looking forward to enjoying my participation here. It took me a long time to get to this point, though, so take heart. Tai. To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, June 6, 2011 1:55 PMSubject: Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence I don't think I could ever consider my life without sweets but I also think that sometimes when I want a sweet now I really crave a piece of fresh fruit instead of candy, etc. But not often. It sound like you have made amazing progress when you eat and are not hungry. And you can even notice that is a big step and that you are able to identify the emotions and deal with that. Part of what you said sounded maybe a little like "diet mentality" though. That "should" word and that you are imaging few sweets in the future. I think too that the feeling of loss is understandable. That's one of those feelings you might look at a little more. These are just some suggestions and ideas that are floating around in my head. Take what fits for you and discard the rest. I still say you are doing great! Be kind to yourself. Sandy I have a similar experience all the time. Since starting IE in February I have been eating a lot of the things that I used to not allow myself to eat freely. The thing I struggled with most before was sweets and I now let myself have those when I feel like them. My trouble is that now that I can have sweets when I feel like them, I don't actually feel like them that much. And I think I am feeling a little cheated because I've been wanting them all my life and now that I am letting myself I am not that interested. Sweets used to be special and satisfying partly because they were not allowed. I find that I still do eat sweets several times a week to several times a day just because I can. But I also am starting to feel like I should let go of that. I notice that when I am not eating from hunger I can usually identify some things that are going on emotionally and sometimes I let myself have something sweet and other times just noticing what's going on takes care of the craving. But I can't help feeling a loss at the thought that my life going forward will have few sweets in it. > > > >> > >> > >> I remember someone saying that to be too rigid with no-diet, we actually > >> turn it into a diet. > >> > >> For example...in the morning I often make oatmeal, usually about the same > >> amount. Some days I am satisfied when I finish the bowl. Some days I am > >> satisfied when there are a couple of spoonfuls left. Well, I'm not going to > >> throw that away...I'm satisfied but not full, and even if I eat the last > >> little bit I'm still not full. Now, if I'm eating out and I have too much, I > >> easily leave the rest on my plate. > >> Carole > >> > >> > >> *From:* Casey Anne > >> *To:* IntuitiveEating_Support > >> *Sent:* Sun, May 29, 2011 10:01:25 AM > >> *Subject:* Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ > >> obeying the internal intelligence > >> > >> > >> > >> Another thought is that you may be being too black/white about IE, which > >> can really play in to a need to control and be "perfect." Which of course > >> brings out our inner rebel-child! If IE is about anything its about not > >> being perfect, so maybe try and relax a little bit. It is ok if you overeat > >> if you find something delicious, or undereat if you don't, you'll be > >> alright! > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Hi, Sandy. 2-1/2 hours is about the norm for me when I begin to think of food again in a desirous way. Then I wait for my stomach to start. If I'm not ready for a meal, yes, I will have a small snack, like the tuna salad or maybe some fruit. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, June 6, 2011 3:27 PMSubject: Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence Glad to have you with us. Sounds like you are doing a really good job. I just finished eating a couple of hours ago and I feel hungry already. That seems to be "normal" for me. I get hungry every 2 hours. Maybe I don't eat enough at a feeding or maybe I could chose better/healthier foods that sustain me longer. If I eat a salad, which I love so it's not a diet thing, I'm hungry in about an hour. Gillian suggested adding fruit, protein, nuts. That helps some. Maybe I still associate salad with diet and hunger. I am not ready for having "danger" foods in the house, like candy bars, or cookies, cake, etc. I am ok with those if I go out to eat and can take it or leave it. But if I have it in the house I just keep eating and eating even though I am not hungry. I can say I did that with hot fudge sundaes and just stopped liking them after 2 weeks. I still eat too fast to know if I am full sometimes. I made a big step forward this weekend though. My daughter and I had to put our dog down. She was 18, deaf, blind, full of arthritis, had a disc problem and was doing ok but lately she had lost bladder and bowel control and most of her hair. Then Saturday she threw up and was stumbling around. The vet said he was pretty sure she had a brain tumor. So it was really time to let her go. But it has been very emotional and I have not turned to food but have just let myself feel my feelings and cry a lot. It feels a lot better than eating and numbing. Now if I can just do as well with my eating out of boredom or loneliness, that will be great. Hope I didn't bum any of you out by my story of my dog. I have a lot of good memories of her too. Sandy Hi, I'm new here. I read the previous few posts and enjoyed them. I have learned by following certain concepts of IE and recognizing boundaries that if I want candy, I can have it. I'm realizing my fullness signals and right now I'm full. Maybe I ate a little too much for lunch, I'm not sure because I'm still working on my signals, but I do know I don't like being hungry after I eat. So now I'm full, maybe a little too full, I have to figure that out as time goes by. Although I was reading about candy, and realizing that I used to have a huge craving for certain types of candy, I no longer have that craving because I know I can have it, and right now I'm full. Does that make sense? I hope so. Anyway, I'm looking forward to enjoying my participation here. It took me a long time to get to this point, though, so take heart. Tai. To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, June 6, 2011 1:55 PMSubject: Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence I don't think I could ever consider my life without sweets but I also think that sometimes when I want a sweet now I really crave a piece of fresh fruit instead of candy, etc. But not often. It sound like you have made amazing progress when you eat and are not hungry. And you can even notice that is a big step and that you are able to identify the emotions and deal with that. Part of what you said sounded maybe a little like "diet mentality" though. That "should" word and that you are imaging few sweets in the future. I think too that the feeling of loss is understandable. That's one of those feelings you might look at a little more. These are just some suggestions and ideas that are floating around in my head. Take what fits for you and discard the rest. I still say you are doing great! Be kind to yourself. Sandy I have a similar experience all the time. Since starting IE in February I have been eating a lot of the things that I used to not allow myself to eat freely. The thing I struggled with most before was sweets and I now let myself have those when I feel like them. My trouble is that now that I can have sweets when I feel like them, I don't actually feel like them that much. And I think I am feeling a little cheated because I've been wanting them all my life and now that I am letting myself I am not that interested. Sweets used to be special and satisfying partly because they were not allowed. I find that I still do eat sweets several times a week to several times a day just because I can. But I also am starting to feel like I should let go of that. I notice that when I am not eating from hunger I can usually identify some things that are going on emotionally and sometimes I let myself have something sweet and other times just noticing what's going on takes care of the craving. But I can't help feeling a loss at the thought that my life going forward will have few sweets in it. > > > >> > >> > >> I remember someone saying that to be too rigid with no-diet, we actually > >> turn it into a diet. > >> > >> For example...in the morning I often make oatmeal, usually about the same > >> amount. Some days I am satisfied when I finish the bowl. Some days I am > >> satisfied when there are a couple of spoonfuls left. Well, I'm not going to > >> throw that away...I'm satisfied but not full, and even if I eat the last > >> little bit I'm still not full. Now, if I'm eating out and I have too much, I > >> easily leave the rest on my plate. > >> Carole > >> > >> > >> *From:* Casey Anne > >> *To:* IntuitiveEating_Support > >> *Sent:* Sun, May 29, 2011 10:01:25 AM > >> *Subject:* Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ > >> obeying the internal intelligence > >> > >> > >> > >> Another thought is that you may be being too black/white about IE, which > >> can really play in to a need to control and be "perfect." Which of course > >> brings out our inner rebel-child! If IE is about anything its about not > >> being perfect, so maybe try and relax a little bit. It is ok if you overeat > >> if you find something delicious, or undereat if you don't, you'll be > >> alright! > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Good ideas. I seem to need a protein with a healthy carb. Sandy Hi, Sandy. 2-1/2 hours is about the norm for me when I begin to think of food again in a desirous way. Then I wait for my stomach to start. If I'm not ready for a meal, yes, I will have a small snack, like the tuna salad or maybe some fruit. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, June 6, 2011 3:27 PMSubject: Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence Glad to have you with us. Sounds like you are doing a really good job. I just finished eating a couple of hours ago and I feel hungry already. That seems to be " normal " for me. I get hungry every 2 hours. Maybe I don't eat enough at a feeding or maybe I could chose better/healthier foods that sustain me longer. If I eat a salad, which I love so it's not a diet thing, I'm hungry in about an hour. Gillian suggested adding fruit, protein, nuts. That helps some. Maybe I still associate salad with diet and hunger. I am not ready for having " danger " foods in the house, like candy bars, or cookies, cake, etc. I am ok with those if I go out to eat and can take it or leave it. But if I have it in the house I just keep eating and eating even though I am not hungry. I can say I did that with hot fudge sundaes and just stopped liking them after 2 weeks. I still eat too fast to know if I am full sometimes. I made a big step forward this weekend though. My daughter and I had to put our dog down. She was 18, deaf, blind, full of arthritis, had a disc problem and was doing ok but lately she had lost bladder and bowel control and most of her hair. Then Saturday she threw up and was stumbling around. The vet said he was pretty sure she had a brain tumor. So it was really time to let her go. But it has been very emotional and I have not turned to food but have just let myself feel my feelings and cry a lot. It feels a lot better than eating and numbing. Now if I can just do as well with my eating out of boredom or loneliness, that will be great. Hope I didn't bum any of you out by my story of my dog. I have a lot of good memories of her too. Sandy Hi, I'm new here. I read the previous few posts and enjoyed them. I have learned by following certain concepts of IE and recognizing boundaries that if I want candy, I can have it. I'm realizing my fullness signals and right now I'm full. Maybe I ate a little too much for lunch, I'm not sure because I'm still working on my signals, but I do know I don't like being hungry after I eat. So now I'm full, maybe a little too full, I have to figure that out as time goes by. Although I was reading about candy, and realizing that I used to have a huge craving for certain types of candy, I no longer have that craving because I know I can have it, and right now I'm full. Does that make sense? I hope so. Anyway, I'm looking forward to enjoying my participation here. It took me a long time to get to this point, though, so take heart. Tai. To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, June 6, 2011 1:55 PMSubject: Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence I don't think I could ever consider my life without sweets but I also think that sometimes when I want a sweet now I really crave a piece of fresh fruit instead of candy, etc. But not often. It sound like you have made amazing progress when you eat and are not hungry. And you can even notice that is a big step and that you are able to identify the emotions and deal with that. Part of what you said sounded maybe a little like " diet mentality " though. That " should " word and that you are imaging few sweets in the future. I think too that the feeling of loss is understandable. That's one of those feelings you might look at a little more. These are just some suggestions and ideas that are floating around in my head. Take what fits for you and discard the rest. I still say you are doing great! Be kind to yourself. Sandy I have a similar experience all the time. Since starting IE in February I have been eating a lot of the things that I used to not allow myself to eat freely. The thing I struggled with most before was sweets and I now let myself have those when I feel like them. My trouble is that now that I can have sweets when I feel like them, I don't actually feel like them that much. And I think I am feeling a little cheated because I've been wanting them all my life and now that I am letting myself I am not that interested. Sweets used to be special and satisfying partly because they were not allowed. I find that I still do eat sweets several times a week to several times a day just because I can. But I also am starting to feel like I should let go of that. I notice that when I am not eating from hunger I can usually identify some things that are going on emotionally and sometimes I let myself have something sweet and other times just noticing what's going on takes care of the craving. But I can't help feeling a loss at the thought that my life going forward will have few sweets in it. > > > >> > >> > >> I remember someone saying that to be too rigid with no-diet, we actually > >> turn it into a diet. > >> > >> For example...in the morning I often make oatmeal, usually about the same > >> amount. Some days I am satisfied when I finish the bowl. Some days I am > >> satisfied when there are a couple of spoonfuls left. Well, I'm not going to > >> throw that away...I'm satisfied but not full, and even if I eat the last > >> little bit I'm still not full. Now, if I'm eating out and I have too much, I > >> easily leave the rest on my plate. > >> Carole > >> > >> > >> *From:* Casey Anne > >> *To:* IntuitiveEating_Support > >> *Sent:* Sun, May 29, 2011 10:01:25 AM > >> *Subject:* Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ > >> obeying the internal intelligence > >> > >> > >> > >> Another thought is that you may be being too black/white about IE, which > >> can really play in to a need to control and be " perfect. " Which of course > >> brings out our inner rebel-child! If IE is about anything its about not > >> being perfect, so maybe try and relax a little bit. It is ok if you overeat > >> if you find something delicious, or undereat if you don't, you'll be > >> alright! > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 I agree that learning to feel satisfied when physical needs are met regarding food intake is very important, and I'm also working on it. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, June 6, 2011 5:38 PMSubject: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence I agree with you Carole, but sometimes, for one reason or another, what we really want isn't available, or we can't quite determine what will be most satisfying- a craving for a food that we can't identify. I am struggling with learning to feel satisfied when my physical needs have been met. > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> I remember someone saying that to be too rigid with no-diet, we actually > > >> turn it into a diet. > > >> > > >> For example...in the morning I often make oatmeal, usually about the same > > >> amount. Some days I am satisfied when I finish the bowl. Some days I am > > >> satisfied when there are a couple of spoonfuls left. Well, I'm not going to > > >> throw that away...I'm satisfied but not full, and even if I eat the last > > >> little bit I'm still not full. Now, if I'm eating out and I have too much, I > > >> easily leave the rest on my plate. > > >> Carole > > >> > > >> > > >> *From:* Casey Anne <ruddenca@> > > >> *To:* IntuitiveEating_Support > > >> *Sent:* Sun, May 29, 2011 10:01:25 AM > > >> *Subject:* Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ > > >> obeying the internal intelligence > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Another thought is that you may be being too black/white about IE, which > > >> can really play in to a need to control and be "perfect." Which of course > > >> brings out our inner rebel-child! If IE is about anything its about not > > >> being perfect, so maybe try and relax a little bit. It is ok if you overeat > > >> if you find something delicious, or undereat if you don't, you'll be > > >> alright! > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Hi, Sandy. I just had "dinner." I forgot to wonder about how hungry I was. I'm going to try to be more mindful, but when I came home I was tired. Food seemed appropriate. It was not a great dinner, but good enough for me. I had leftovers, I finished my chicken salad and I had more chicken and rice. I stopped when I had enough. I kept thinking I need more veggies in this recipe, but I'm full now and tomorrow is another day, plus there's always fruit AND ice cream in the fridge if I need a snack or two. Nope ... not going to stress it too much. We'll see when I get on the scale maybe in a week how I'm doing.As I was shopping today, I passed the chips and chocolate and thought, boy that chocolate looks yummy. But I don't want it now. I don't want it tonight. Maybe another day. And I kept walking.TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, June 6, 2011 5:42 PMSubject: Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence Good ideas. I seem to need a protein with a healthy carb. Sandy Hi, Sandy. 2-1/2 hours is about the norm for me when I begin to think of food again in a desirous way. Then I wait for my stomach to start. If I'm not ready for a meal, yes, I will have a small snack, like the tuna salad or maybe some fruit. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, June 6, 2011 3:27 PMSubject: Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence Glad to have you with us. Sounds like you are doing a really good job. I just finished eating a couple of hours ago and I feel hungry already. That seems to be "normal" for me. I get hungry every 2 hours. Maybe I don't eat enough at a feeding or maybe I could chose better/healthier foods that sustain me longer. If I eat a salad, which I love so it's not a diet thing, I'm hungry in about an hour. Gillian suggested adding fruit, protein, nuts. That helps some. Maybe I still associate salad with diet and hunger. I am not ready for having "danger" foods in the house, like candy bars, or cookies, cake, etc. I am ok with those if I go out to eat and can take it or leave it. But if I have it in the house I just keep eating and eating even though I am not hungry. I can say I did that with hot fudge sundaes and just stopped liking them after 2 weeks. I still eat too fast to know if I am full sometimes. I made a big step forward this weekend though. My daughter and I had to put our dog down. She was 18, deaf, blind, full of arthritis, had a disc problem and was doing ok but lately she had lost bladder and bowel control and most of her hair. Then Saturday she threw up and was stumbling around. The vet said he was pretty sure she had a brain tumor. So it was really time to let her go. But it has been very emotional and I have not turned to food but have just let myself feel my feelings and cry a lot. It feels a lot better than eating and numbing. Now if I can just do as well with my eating out of boredom or loneliness, that will be great. Hope I didn't bum any of you out by my story of my dog. I have a lot of good memories of her too. Sandy Hi, I'm new here. I read the previous few posts and enjoyed them. I have learned by following certain concepts of IE and recognizing boundaries that if I want candy, I can have it. I'm realizing my fullness signals and right now I'm full. Maybe I ate a little too much for lunch, I'm not sure because I'm still working on my signals, but I do know I don't like being hungry after I eat. So now I'm full, maybe a little too full, I have to figure that out as time goes by. Although I was reading about candy, and realizing that I used to have a huge craving for certain types of candy, I no longer have that craving because I know I can have it, and right now I'm full. Does that make sense? I hope so. Anyway, I'm looking forward to enjoying my participation here. It took me a long time to get to this point, though, so take heart. Tai. To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, June 6, 2011 1:55 PMSubject: Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence I don't think I could ever consider my life without sweets but I also think that sometimes when I want a sweet now I really crave a piece of fresh fruit instead of candy, etc. But not often. It sound like you have made amazing progress when you eat and are not hungry. And you can even notice that is a big step and that you are able to identify the emotions and deal with that. Part of what you said sounded maybe a little like "diet mentality" though. That "should" word and that you are imaging few sweets in the future. I think too that the feeling of loss is understandable. That's one of those feelings you might look at a little more. These are just some suggestions and ideas that are floating around in my head. Take what fits for you and discard the rest. I still say you are doing great! Be kind to yourself. Sandy I have a similar experience all the time. Since starting IE in February I have been eating a lot of the things that I used to not allow myself to eat freely. The thing I struggled with most before was sweets and I now let myself have those when I feel like them. My trouble is that now that I can have sweets when I feel like them, I don't actually feel like them that much. And I think I am feeling a little cheated because I've been wanting them all my life and now that I am letting myself I am not that interested. Sweets used to be special and satisfying partly because they were not allowed. I find that I still do eat sweets several times a week to several times a day just because I can. But I also am starting to feel like I should let go of that. I notice that when I am not eating from hunger I can usually identify some things that are going on emotionally and sometimes I let myself have something sweet and other times just noticing what's going on takes care of the craving. But I can't help feeling a loss at the thought that my life going forward will have few sweets in it. > > > >> > >> > >> I remember someone saying that to be too rigid with no-diet, we actually > >> turn it into a diet. > >> > >> For example...in the morning I often make oatmeal, usually about the same > >> amount. Some days I am satisfied when I finish the bowl. Some days I am > >> satisfied when there are a couple of spoonfuls left. Well, I'm not going to > >> throw that away...I'm satisfied but not full, and even if I eat the last > >> little bit I'm still not full. Now, if I'm eating out and I have too much, I > >> easily leave the rest on my plate. > >> Carole > >> > >> > >> *From:* Casey Anne > >> *To:* IntuitiveEating_Support > >> *Sent:* Sun, May 29, 2011 10:01:25 AM > >> *Subject:* Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ > >> obeying the internal intelligence > >> > >> > >> > >> Another thought is that you may be being too black/white about IE, which > >> can really play in to a need to control and be "perfect." Which of course > >> brings out our inner rebel-child! If IE is about anything its about not > >> being perfect, so maybe try and relax a little bit. It is ok if you overeat > >> if you find something delicious, or undereat if you don't, you'll be > >> alright! > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Hi. When I am hungry and want something to eat, sometimes I first imagine what I really want. I stay and think about that for a while and then make my decisions from there. It helps. Before I would just grab for anything, pizza, candy, whatever. But now I think about what I really want. It could be a tuna fish sandwich. I go from there. Tai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Sometimes I still have a hard time deciding what is satisfaction and what is being full. I think they are very interconnected and not sure you can have one without the other. Sandy I agree that learning to feel satisfied when physical needs are met regarding food intake is very important, and I'm also working on it. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, June 6, 2011 5:38 PM Subject: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence I agree with you Carole, but sometimes, for one reason or another, what we really want isn't available, or we can't quite determine what will be most satisfying- a craving for a food that we can't identify. I am struggling with learning to feel satisfied when my physical needs have been met. > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> I remember someone saying that to be too rigid with no-diet, we actually > > >> turn it into a diet. > > >> > > >> For example...in the morning I often make oatmeal, usually about the same > > >> amount. Some days I am satisfied when I finish the bowl. Some days I am > > >> satisfied when there are a couple of spoonfuls left. Well, I'm not going to > > >> throw that away...I'm satisfied but not full, and even if I eat the last > > >> little bit I'm still not full. Now, if I'm eating out and I have too much, I > > >> easily leave the rest on my plate. > > >> Carole > > >> > > >> > > >> *From:* Casey Anne <ruddenca@> > > >> *To:* IntuitiveEating_Support > > >> *Sent:* Sun, May 29, 2011 10:01:25 AM > > >> *Subject:* Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ > > >> obeying the internal intelligence > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Another thought is that you may be being too black/white about IE, which > > >> can really play in to a need to control and be " perfect. " Which of course > > >> brings out our inner rebel-child! If IE is about anything its about not > > >> being perfect, so maybe try and relax a little bit. It is ok if you overeat > > >> if you find something delicious, or undereat if you don't, you'll be > > >> alright! > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Thanks. That sounds like a good idea. Dealing with a lot of frustration and disruption today. Took my car in today because it was leaking oil again, after very expensive job in Jan. I was told it would take about an hour and ended up being there 3 until my friend came and took me to his place to wait, another hour. I also had an alignment, tires rotated and balanced while I was there. They resealed everything done last time for no charge. Any way I was there 4 hours. Yipes. Then I had to get home and call a plumber because my toilet has been slowly leaking from around the seal I think and the new floor is wet underneath the tiles. Tomorrow I have to have some lab work redone after being off one of my meds for a week(liver function was high), and then out to lunch with the ladies here. Thursday I go out with my friend for lunch and the day and usually eat at 's around 5. Friday is free! Yippee. Sometimes I get too busy for my liking. Anyway I have extra challenges this week regarding IE. I think something has changed for me though, for the better. I can't quite put my finger on it but things just seem different, like my attitude. And I am beginning to incorporate exercise, fun stuff into my routine. Swimming in the pool. The ocean has too many jellyfish and rip currents. Bike rides, walking around the lake to enjoy nature, dance/exercise DVD from Netflix And we have a group here now that has just started playing Wii bowling(and other sports). So things seem to be changing. I'm going to go find something funny online. I need to laugh more. Sandy Hi. When I am hungry and want something to eat, sometimes I first imagine what I really want. I stay and think about that for a while and then make my decisions from there. It helps. Before I would just grab for anything, pizza, candy, whatever. But now I think about what I really want. It could be a tuna fish sandwich. I go from there. Tai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Hi, Sandy. That sounds like a day full of trouble. I, too, just had a transmission problem, and the car just conked out in the middle of traffic. I was hysterical and called my husband very, very upset, sitting there in a stalled car with cars rushing at me. I'm still devoted to my eating, though, and although I am sure I have not lost much weight these days I am still forging ahead with IE. One of the reasons I'm doing it is that it's not painful. What is painful is the slow loss because of my age and because I'm not exercising much. And sometimes when I want to exercise my feet hurt so bad that all I want to do is go upstairs to my apartment and sit on the recliner and watch TV (as I'm doing now). It sounds like you're doing well, so we will keep trying, right? As far as funny things online, I do enjoy watching funny animal videos, I think Purina runs a series of funny animal videos. They actually make me laugh. Just before I was watching a show by Fisher, she is hysterical, but I had to stop because at a certain point in her one-woman funny show she became too raw for me. But she is very, very funny, if you like that type of humor. Let me know what type of shows you like to watch. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2011 2:53 PMSubject: Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence Thanks. That sounds like a good idea. Dealing with a lot of frustration and disruption today. Took my car in today because it was leaking oil again, after very expensive job in Jan. I was told it would take about an hour and ended up being there 3 until my friend came and took me to his place to wait, another hour. I also had an alignment, tires rotated and balanced while I was there. They resealed everything done last time for no charge. Any way I was there 4 hours. Yipes. Then I had to get home and call a plumber because my toilet has been slowly leaking from around the seal I think and the new floor is wet underneath the tiles. Tomorrow I have to have some lab work redone after being off one of my meds for a week(liver function was high), and then out to lunch with the ladies here. Thursday I go out with my friend for lunch and the day and usually eat at 's around 5. Friday is free! Yippee. Sometimes I get too busy for my liking. Anyway I have extra challenges this week regarding IE. I think something has changed for me though, for the better. I can't quite put my finger on it but things just seem different, like my attitude. And I am beginning to incorporate exercise, fun stuff into my routine. Swimming in the pool. The ocean has too many jellyfish and rip currents. Bike rides, walking around the lake to enjoy nature, dance/exercise DVD from Netflix And we have a group here now that has just started playing Wii bowling(and other sports). So things seem to be changing. I'm going to go find something funny online. I need to laugh more. Sandy Hi. When I am hungry and want something to eat, sometimes I first imagine what I really want. I stay and think about that for a while and then make my decisions from there. It helps. Before I would just grab for anything, pizza, candy, whatever. But now I think about what I really want. It could be a tuna fish sandwich. I go from there. Tai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Yeah, sometimes I have that problem, too, Sandy. If I really crave more food now, I have it. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2011 12:17 PMSubject: Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence Sometimes I still have a hard time deciding what is satisfaction and what is being full. I think they are very interconnected and not sure you can have one without the other. Sandy I agree that learning to feel satisfied when physical needs are met regarding food intake is very important, and I'm also working on it. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, June 6, 2011 5:38 PM Subject: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence I agree with you Carole, but sometimes, for one reason or another, what we really want isn't available, or we can't quite determine what will be most satisfying- a craving for a food that we can't identify. I am struggling with learning to feel satisfied when my physical needs have been met. > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> I remember someone saying that to be too rigid with no-diet, we actually > > >> turn it into a diet. > > >> > > >> For example...in the morning I often make oatmeal, usually about the same > > >> amount. Some days I am satisfied when I finish the bowl. Some days I am > > >> satisfied when there are a couple of spoonfuls left. Well, I'm not going to > > >> throw that away...I'm satisfied but not full, and even if I eat the last > > >> little bit I'm still not full. Now, if I'm eating out and I have too much, I > > >> easily leave the rest on my plate. > > >> Carole > > >> > > >> > > >> *From:* Casey Anne <ruddenca@> > > >> *To:* IntuitiveEating_Support > > >> *Sent:* Sun, May 29, 2011 10:01:25 AM > > >> *Subject:* Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ > > >> obeying the internal intelligence > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Another thought is that you may be being too black/white about IE, which > > >> can really play in to a need to control and be "perfect." Which of course > > >> brings out our inner rebel-child! If IE is about anything its about not > > >> being perfect, so maybe try and relax a little bit. It is ok if you overeat > > >> if you find something delicious, or undereat if you don't, you'll be > > >> alright! > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Hi Tai, By the end of the day things had calmed down and I was ok with everything. I was actually lucky last Dec. when the water pump went out on my car but I was only a couple of blocks from home, about 9 pm in freezing weather here in Florida, but no traffic. I also was able to walk home which I couldn't have done last year(walk that is). I also now have a cell phone. My son was visiting and helped me push the car to my house and I called tow company in the morning. I would have been hysterical too in traffic. I am sorry your feet hurt so bad. That must be very limiting. I have a lot of pain in one hip so I take 2 Ibuprofen before I go for a walk. I watched utube funny animals and babies. I will check out the Purina site. I am having a little difficulty watching dog videos because we just had to put my dog down. But it was well past time for her. I like Ellen DeGeneres and others. Hang in there. Sandy Hi, Sandy. That sounds like a day full of trouble. I, too, just had a transmission problem, and the car just conked out in the middle of traffic. I was hysterical and called my husband very, very upset, sitting there in a stalled car with cars rushing at me. I'm still devoted to my eating, though, and although I am sure I have not lost much weight these days I am still forging ahead with IE. One of the reasons I'm doing it is that it's not painful. What is painful is the slow loss because of my age and because I'm not exercising much. And sometimes when I want to exercise my feet hurt so bad that all I want to do is go upstairs to my apartment and sit on the recliner and watch TV (as I'm doing now). It sounds like you're doing well, so we will keep trying, right? As far as funny things online, I do enjoy watching funny animal videos, I think Purina runs a series of funny animal videos. They actually make me laugh. Just before I was watching a show by Fisher, she is hysterical, but I had to stop because at a certain point in her one-woman funny show she became too raw for me. But she is very, very funny, if you like that type of humor. Let me know what type of shows you like to watch. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2011 2:53 PMSubject: Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence Thanks. That sounds like a good idea. Dealing with a lot of frustration and disruption today. Took my car in today because it was leaking oil again, after very expensive job in Jan. I was told it would take about an hour and ended up being there 3 until my friend came and took me to his place to wait, another hour. I also had an alignment, tires rotated and balanced while I was there. They resealed everything done last time for no charge. Any way I was there 4 hours. Yipes. Then I had to get home and call a plumber because my toilet has been slowly leaking from around the seal I think and the new floor is wet underneath the tiles. Tomorrow I have to have some lab work redone after being off one of my meds for a week(liver function was high), and then out to lunch with the ladies here. Thursday I go out with my friend for lunch and the day and usually eat at 's around 5. Friday is free! Yippee. Sometimes I get too busy for my liking. Anyway I have extra challenges this week regarding IE. I think something has changed for me though, for the better. I can't quite put my finger on it but things just seem different, like my attitude. And I am beginning to incorporate exercise, fun stuff into my routine. Swimming in the pool. The ocean has too many jellyfish and rip currents. Bike rides, walking around the lake to enjoy nature, dance/exercise DVD from Netflix And we have a group here now that has just started playing Wii bowling(and other sports). So things seem to be changing. I'm going to go find something funny online. I need to laugh more. Sandy Hi. When I am hungry and want something to eat, sometimes I first imagine what I really want. I stay and think about that for a while and then make my decisions from there. It helps. Before I would just grab for anything, pizza, candy, whatever. But now I think about what I really want. It could be a tuna fish sandwich. I go from there. Tai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Hi Tai, By the end of the day things had calmed down and I was ok with everything. I was actually lucky last Dec. when the water pump went out on my car but I was only a couple of blocks from home, about 9 pm in freezing weather here in Florida, but no traffic. I also was able to walk home which I couldn't have done last year(walk that is). I also now have a cell phone. My son was visiting and helped me push the car to my house and I called tow company in the morning. I would have been hysterical too in traffic. I am sorry your feet hurt so bad. That must be very limiting. I have a lot of pain in one hip so I take 2 Ibuprofen before I go for a walk. I watched utube funny animals and babies. I will check out the Purina site. I am having a little difficulty watching dog videos because we just had to put my dog down. But it was well past time for her. I like Ellen DeGeneres and others. Hang in there. Sandy Hi, Sandy. That sounds like a day full of trouble. I, too, just had a transmission problem, and the car just conked out in the middle of traffic. I was hysterical and called my husband very, very upset, sitting there in a stalled car with cars rushing at me. I'm still devoted to my eating, though, and although I am sure I have not lost much weight these days I am still forging ahead with IE. One of the reasons I'm doing it is that it's not painful. What is painful is the slow loss because of my age and because I'm not exercising much. And sometimes when I want to exercise my feet hurt so bad that all I want to do is go upstairs to my apartment and sit on the recliner and watch TV (as I'm doing now). It sounds like you're doing well, so we will keep trying, right? As far as funny things online, I do enjoy watching funny animal videos, I think Purina runs a series of funny animal videos. They actually make me laugh. Just before I was watching a show by Fisher, she is hysterical, but I had to stop because at a certain point in her one-woman funny show she became too raw for me. But she is very, very funny, if you like that type of humor. Let me know what type of shows you like to watch. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2011 2:53 PMSubject: Re: Re: honoring healthy boundaries/ obeying the internal intelligence Thanks. That sounds like a good idea. Dealing with a lot of frustration and disruption today. Took my car in today because it was leaking oil again, after very expensive job in Jan. I was told it would take about an hour and ended up being there 3 until my friend came and took me to his place to wait, another hour. I also had an alignment, tires rotated and balanced while I was there. They resealed everything done last time for no charge. Any way I was there 4 hours. Yipes. Then I had to get home and call a plumber because my toilet has been slowly leaking from around the seal I think and the new floor is wet underneath the tiles. Tomorrow I have to have some lab work redone after being off one of my meds for a week(liver function was high), and then out to lunch with the ladies here. Thursday I go out with my friend for lunch and the day and usually eat at 's around 5. Friday is free! Yippee. Sometimes I get too busy for my liking. Anyway I have extra challenges this week regarding IE. I think something has changed for me though, for the better. I can't quite put my finger on it but things just seem different, like my attitude. And I am beginning to incorporate exercise, fun stuff into my routine. Swimming in the pool. The ocean has too many jellyfish and rip currents. Bike rides, walking around the lake to enjoy nature, dance/exercise DVD from Netflix And we have a group here now that has just started playing Wii bowling(and other sports). So things seem to be changing. I'm going to go find something funny online. I need to laugh more. Sandy Hi. When I am hungry and want something to eat, sometimes I first imagine what I really want. I stay and think about that for a while and then make my decisions from there. It helps. Before I would just grab for anything, pizza, candy, whatever. But now I think about what I really want. It could be a tuna fish sandwich. I go from there. Tai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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