Re: Where do I start

[Guest guest]

Hi, Betty. Thanks for posting, I enjoyed reading your post, but sorry you feel the way you do. I understand about being overweight. I am coming to terms with IE. I really am going to learn to live with my situation, but here's how: by not worrying too much.. The reason I say 'too much' is because no matter how we live if we've ever been disregulated eaters, the twinge of remorse is always there, because we're not like normal eaters. However, if this is any encouragement to you, I have made great progress regarding my eating approach. I am learning to stop at the first sign of fullness, no matter how much I enjoy the food. You can do it. But it takes time to learn the routine because we have to train ourselves mentally.

Tonight I went to a friend's house. I'm not sure if I was hungry, but she had food there, and we were watching a movie, and she had some delicious chocolate cake. I could not stop eating it, I felt, as I say, a little tinge of regret, but I decided that I must have that cake, that I am going to forgive myself for having exactly what I wanted. I was also proud, though, that I did not eat more than that (which I could have). I believe this -- that those of us who have been or are disregulated will think differently than someone who does not have this problem. But we can learn, and we can learn to listen to our body signals.

After reading several posts from various posters on the board, I really don't want to go back to weighing myself. I believe I will continue with IE, watching for my hunger signals, listening to what my body tells me. I'm happier this way. Please keep posting, it's important for all of us to hear the perceptions and experiences of others. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 9:36 PMSubject: Where do I start

I have been reading some of the posts, but still confused about some things. Where do I begin to overcome my diet problem? I know that sounds a bit stupid, but I have been on a roller coaster for the past few months that I am just exhausted. I was eating healthy and lost 40 lbs from Sept of last year to Feb of this year. I suffer from panic attachs while in a car and had one and than the roller coaster of eating came and I have gain all that I lost.I weigh 335 right now and as you can see I did not need to gain that weight back when I need to lose alot more.Any advice?Betty

[Guest guest]

Hi, Betty. Thanks for posting, I enjoyed reading your post, but sorry you feel the way you do. I understand about being overweight. I am coming to terms with IE. I really am going to learn to live with my situation, but here's how: by not worrying too much.. The reason I say 'too much' is because no matter how we live if we've ever been disregulated eaters, the twinge of remorse is always there, because we're not like normal eaters. However, if this is any encouragement to you, I have made great progress regarding my eating approach. I am learning to stop at the first sign of fullness, no matter how much I enjoy the food. You can do it. But it takes time to learn the routine because we have to train ourselves mentally.

Tonight I went to a friend's house. I'm not sure if I was hungry, but she had food there, and we were watching a movie, and she had some delicious chocolate cake. I could not stop eating it, I felt, as I say, a little tinge of regret, but I decided that I must have that cake, that I am going to forgive myself for having exactly what I wanted. I was also proud, though, that I did not eat more than that (which I could have). I believe this -- that those of us who have been or are disregulated will think differently than someone who does not have this problem. But we can learn, and we can learn to listen to our body signals.

After reading several posts from various posters on the board, I really don't want to go back to weighing myself. I believe I will continue with IE, watching for my hunger signals, listening to what my body tells me. I'm happier this way. Please keep posting, it's important for all of us to hear the perceptions and experiences of others. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 9:36 PMSubject: Where do I start

I have been reading some of the posts, but still confused about some things. Where do I begin to overcome my diet problem? I know that sounds a bit stupid, but I have been on a roller coaster for the past few months that I am just exhausted. I was eating healthy and lost 40 lbs from Sept of last year to Feb of this year. I suffer from panic attachs while in a car and had one and than the roller coaster of eating came and I have gain all that I lost.I weigh 335 right now and as you can see I did not need to gain that weight back when I need to lose alot more.Any advice?Betty

[Guest guest]

Hi, Betty. Thanks for posting, I enjoyed reading your post, but sorry you feel the way you do. I understand about being overweight. I am coming to terms with IE. I really am going to learn to live with my situation, but here's how: by not worrying too much.. The reason I say 'too much' is because no matter how we live if we've ever been disregulated eaters, the twinge of remorse is always there, because we're not like normal eaters. However, if this is any encouragement to you, I have made great progress regarding my eating approach. I am learning to stop at the first sign of fullness, no matter how much I enjoy the food. You can do it. But it takes time to learn the routine because we have to train ourselves mentally.

Tonight I went to a friend's house. I'm not sure if I was hungry, but she had food there, and we were watching a movie, and she had some delicious chocolate cake. I could not stop eating it, I felt, as I say, a little tinge of regret, but I decided that I must have that cake, that I am going to forgive myself for having exactly what I wanted. I was also proud, though, that I did not eat more than that (which I could have). I believe this -- that those of us who have been or are disregulated will think differently than someone who does not have this problem. But we can learn, and we can learn to listen to our body signals.

After reading several posts from various posters on the board, I really don't want to go back to weighing myself. I believe I will continue with IE, watching for my hunger signals, listening to what my body tells me. I'm happier this way. Please keep posting, it's important for all of us to hear the perceptions and experiences of others. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 9:36 PMSubject: Where do I start

I have been reading some of the posts, but still confused about some things. Where do I begin to overcome my diet problem? I know that sounds a bit stupid, but I have been on a roller coaster for the past few months that I am just exhausted. I was eating healthy and lost 40 lbs from Sept of last year to Feb of this year. I suffer from panic attachs while in a car and had one and than the roller coaster of eating came and I have gain all that I lost.I weigh 335 right now and as you can see I did not need to gain that weight back when I need to lose alot more.Any advice?Betty

[Guest guest]

Hi Betty. Welcome. Have you read any of the suggested books? I started with " Intuitive Eating " by Trioble and Elyse Resch, also " Women Food and God or others by Geneen Roth, " Big Fat Lies " by Glenn Gaesser, and " health at Every Size " by Bacon. The IE book is a good starting place.  I am on my second read and am working with a coach.  First of all I did not " overcome " my diet problem of yo-yo dieting. I stopped dieting forever because Diets Don't Work. I too had my weight down until having some surgery and gained it all back plus more.  I got rid of my scales and no longer weigh myself.  I will not even get weighed at the Dr.'s office.  I have the right to refuse that.  And focusing on my weight never helped me keep it off, just the opposite.  This group is a good place to start too.  One idea I am still getting rid of is that thee are no forbidden foods.  That was so freeing to me.  I ate hot fudge sundaes almost daily for a couple of weeks and now I could take them or leave them.  I am sure I am gaining weight because I had to buy bigger size clothes.  And that has been hard, to trust my body in knowing what it needs and paying attention to it. Keep writing in with any specific questions you might have and we will share our experiences, what has worked for me or not worked.  Sandy

 

I have been reading some of the posts, but still confused about some things.

Where do I begin to overcome my diet problem? I know that sounds a bit stupid, but I have been on a roller coaster for the past few months that I am just exhausted.

I was eating healthy and lost 40 lbs from Sept of last year to Feb of this year. I suffer from panic attachs while in a car and had one and than the roller coaster of eating came and I have gain all that I lost.

I weigh 335 right now and as you can see I did not need to gain that weight back when I need to lose alot more.

Any advice?

Betty

[Guest guest]

Hi Betty. Welcome. Have you read any of the suggested books? I started with " Intuitive Eating " by Trioble and Elyse Resch, also " Women Food and God or others by Geneen Roth, " Big Fat Lies " by Glenn Gaesser, and " health at Every Size " by Bacon. The IE book is a good starting place.  I am on my second read and am working with a coach.  First of all I did not " overcome " my diet problem of yo-yo dieting. I stopped dieting forever because Diets Don't Work. I too had my weight down until having some surgery and gained it all back plus more.  I got rid of my scales and no longer weigh myself.  I will not even get weighed at the Dr.'s office.  I have the right to refuse that.  And focusing on my weight never helped me keep it off, just the opposite.  This group is a good place to start too.  One idea I am still getting rid of is that thee are no forbidden foods.  That was so freeing to me.  I ate hot fudge sundaes almost daily for a couple of weeks and now I could take them or leave them.  I am sure I am gaining weight because I had to buy bigger size clothes.  And that has been hard, to trust my body in knowing what it needs and paying attention to it. Keep writing in with any specific questions you might have and we will share our experiences, what has worked for me or not worked.  Sandy

 

I have been reading some of the posts, but still confused about some things.

Where do I begin to overcome my diet problem? I know that sounds a bit stupid, but I have been on a roller coaster for the past few months that I am just exhausted.

I was eating healthy and lost 40 lbs from Sept of last year to Feb of this year. I suffer from panic attachs while in a car and had one and than the roller coaster of eating came and I have gain all that I lost.

I weigh 335 right now and as you can see I did not need to gain that weight back when I need to lose alot more.

Any advice?

Betty

[Guest guest]

Hi, Sandy. I know it sounds silly, but I never really knew you could refuse to be weighed at the doctor's office. Can you refuse to have your blood pressure checked? I hate it when I go to the doctor for one thing and right away they weigh me (ridiculous) and take my blood pressure. My doctor always comes down on me for my pressure, and I'm never happy when I see my weight. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 9:03 AMSubject: Re: Where do I start

Hi Betty. Welcome. Have you read any of the suggested books? I started with "Intuitive Eating" by Trioble and Elyse Resch, also"Women Food and God or others by Geneen Roth, "Big Fat Lies" by Glenn Gaesser, and "health at Every Size" by Bacon. The IE book is a good starting place. I am on my second read and am working with a coach. First of all I did not "overcome" my diet problem of yo-yo dieting. I stopped dieting forever because Diets Don't Work. I too had my weight down until having some surgery and gained it all back plus more. I got rid of my scales and no longer weigh myself. I will not even get weighed at the Dr.'s office. I have the right to refuse that. And focusing on my weight never helped me keep it off, just the opposite. This group is a good place to start too. One idea I am still getting rid of is that thee are no forbidden foods. That was so freeing to me.

I ate hot fudge sundaes almost daily for a couple of weeks and now I could take them or leave them. I am sure I am gaining weight because I had to buy bigger size clothes. And that has been hard, to trust my body in knowing what it needs and paying attention to it. Keep writing in with any specific questions you might have and we will share our experiences, what has worked for me or not worked. Sandy

I have been reading some of the posts, but still confused about some things.

Where do I begin to overcome my diet problem? I know that sounds a bit stupid, but I have been on a roller coaster for the past few months that I am just exhausted.

I was eating healthy and lost 40 lbs from Sept of last year to Feb of this year. I suffer from panic attachs while in a car and had one and than the roller coaster of eating came and I have gain all that I lost.

I weigh 335 right now and as you can see I did not need to gain that weight back when I need to lose alot more.

Any advice?

Betty

[Guest guest]

Hi, Sandy. I know it sounds silly, but I never really knew you could refuse to be weighed at the doctor's office. Can you refuse to have your blood pressure checked? I hate it when I go to the doctor for one thing and right away they weigh me (ridiculous) and take my blood pressure. My doctor always comes down on me for my pressure, and I'm never happy when I see my weight. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 9:03 AMSubject: Re: Where do I start

Hi Betty. Welcome. Have you read any of the suggested books? I started with "Intuitive Eating" by Trioble and Elyse Resch, also"Women Food and God or others by Geneen Roth, "Big Fat Lies" by Glenn Gaesser, and "health at Every Size" by Bacon. The IE book is a good starting place. I am on my second read and am working with a coach. First of all I did not "overcome" my diet problem of yo-yo dieting. I stopped dieting forever because Diets Don't Work. I too had my weight down until having some surgery and gained it all back plus more. I got rid of my scales and no longer weigh myself. I will not even get weighed at the Dr.'s office. I have the right to refuse that. And focusing on my weight never helped me keep it off, just the opposite. This group is a good place to start too. One idea I am still getting rid of is that thee are no forbidden foods. That was so freeing to me.

I ate hot fudge sundaes almost daily for a couple of weeks and now I could take them or leave them. I am sure I am gaining weight because I had to buy bigger size clothes. And that has been hard, to trust my body in knowing what it needs and paying attention to it. Keep writing in with any specific questions you might have and we will share our experiences, what has worked for me or not worked. Sandy

I have been reading some of the posts, but still confused about some things.

Where do I begin to overcome my diet problem? I know that sounds a bit stupid, but I have been on a roller coaster for the past few months that I am just exhausted.

I was eating healthy and lost 40 lbs from Sept of last year to Feb of this year. I suffer from panic attachs while in a car and had one and than the roller coaster of eating came and I have gain all that I lost.

I weigh 335 right now and as you can see I did not need to gain that weight back when I need to lose alot more.

Any advice?

Betty

[Guest guest]

Hi, Sandy. I know it sounds silly, but I never really knew you could refuse to be weighed at the doctor's office. Can you refuse to have your blood pressure checked? I hate it when I go to the doctor for one thing and right away they weigh me (ridiculous) and take my blood pressure. My doctor always comes down on me for my pressure, and I'm never happy when I see my weight. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 9:03 AMSubject: Re: Where do I start

Hi Betty. Welcome. Have you read any of the suggested books? I started with "Intuitive Eating" by Trioble and Elyse Resch, also"Women Food and God or others by Geneen Roth, "Big Fat Lies" by Glenn Gaesser, and "health at Every Size" by Bacon. The IE book is a good starting place. I am on my second read and am working with a coach. First of all I did not "overcome" my diet problem of yo-yo dieting. I stopped dieting forever because Diets Don't Work. I too had my weight down until having some surgery and gained it all back plus more. I got rid of my scales and no longer weigh myself. I will not even get weighed at the Dr.'s office. I have the right to refuse that. And focusing on my weight never helped me keep it off, just the opposite. This group is a good place to start too. One idea I am still getting rid of is that thee are no forbidden foods. That was so freeing to me.

I ate hot fudge sundaes almost daily for a couple of weeks and now I could take them or leave them. I am sure I am gaining weight because I had to buy bigger size clothes. And that has been hard, to trust my body in knowing what it needs and paying attention to it. Keep writing in with any specific questions you might have and we will share our experiences, what has worked for me or not worked. Sandy

I have been reading some of the posts, but still confused about some things.

Where do I begin to overcome my diet problem? I know that sounds a bit stupid, but I have been on a roller coaster for the past few months that I am just exhausted.

I was eating healthy and lost 40 lbs from Sept of last year to Feb of this year. I suffer from panic attachs while in a car and had one and than the roller coaster of eating came and I have gain all that I lost.

I weigh 335 right now and as you can see I did not need to gain that weight back when I need to lose alot more.

Any advice?

Betty

[Guest guest]

Hi Tai,

I had to reply to the blood pressure check because it reminds me of my dilemma. While I don't know if you can refuse it without nurses and doctors trying to convince you otherwise, I have heard of and do suffer from the "White Coat Syndrome"! I basically get so nervous each and every time I go to the doctor's office, actually my specialist sets of my system because I had a transplant when when I was a 12 years old. The whole ordeal was terrible for me and I felt like doctors and nurses had no desire to listen to me, so I just had to be compliant-and boy when I don't like something I'm not a compliant person! Anyways, I check my blood pressure at Supermarkets, Pharmacy's, people's home cuff machines, and its always within "normal" limits. At the doctor's office it's off the wall (even at my lowest and heaviest weight because they blame my weight). I'd be willing to listen to them more if they could do the same, but they're convinced my blood

pressure needs to be managed no matter how much I try to explain it to them. I know we've had posts about finding the right doctor and that is so true. I can't help my specialist right now, with insurance co-pays and such, but I can choose my PCP's and other docs I see. So, I guess this is all to say that I too have wild blood pressure numbers because of some uninterpreted threat my subconscious most likely hasn't gotten over... nor has my conscious-self for that matter! Yes, advocate for yourself as a way of honoring and loving yourself and don't step on that scale if you don't want to!

Best wishes!C

To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Sat, June 11, 2011 7:13:27 AMSubject: Re: Where do I start

Hi, Sandy. I know it sounds silly, but I never really knew you could refuse to be weighed at the doctor's office. Can you refuse to have your blood pressure checked? I hate it when I go to the doctor for one thing and right away they weigh me (ridiculous) and take my blood pressure. My doctor always comes down on me for my pressure, and I'm never happy when I see my weight. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 9:03 AMSubject: Re: Where do I start

Hi Betty. Welcome. Have you read any of the suggested books? I started with "Intuitive Eating" by Trioble and Elyse Resch, also"Women Food and God or others by Geneen Roth, "Big Fat Lies" by Glenn Gaesser, and "health at Every Size" by Bacon. The IE book is a good starting place. I am on my second read and am working with a coach. First of all I did not "overcome" my diet problem of yo-yo dieting. I stopped dieting forever because Diets Don't Work. I too had my weight down until having some surgery and gained it all back plus more. I got rid of my scales and no longer weigh myself. I will not even get weighed at the Dr.'s office. I have the right to refuse that. And focusing on my weight never helped me keep it off, just the opposite. This group is a good place to start too. One idea I am still getting rid of is that thee are no forbidden foods. That was so freeing to me. I ate

hot fudge sundaes almost daily for a couple of weeks and now I could take them or leave them. I am sure I am gaining weight because I had to buy bigger size clothes. And that has been hard, to trust my body in knowing what it needs and paying attention to it. Keep writing in with any specific questions you might have and we will share our experiences, what has worked for me or not worked. Sandy

I have been reading some of the posts, but still confused about some things. Where do I begin to overcome my diet problem? I know that sounds a bit stupid, but I have been on a roller coaster for the past few months that I am just exhausted. I was eating healthy and lost 40 lbs from Sept of last year to Feb of this year. I suffer from panic attachs while in a car and had one and than the roller coaster of eating came and I have gain all that I lost.I weigh 335 right now and as you can see I did not need to gain that weight back when I need to lose alot more.Any advice?Betty

[Guest guest]

Hi CL I also had a kidney transplant 16 years agoI used to panic about my BP too butI learned my true blood pressure does notShow at the doctor office . Now my doctorAlso agrees . I take my BP at home then I go for checkup What kind of transplant you had?How long has it been?Good luckShokuShoku

Hi Tai,

I had to reply to the blood pressure check because it reminds me of my dilemma. While I don't know if you can refuse it without nurses and doctors trying to convince you otherwise, I have heard of and do suffer from the "White Coat Syndrome"! I basically get so nervous each and every time I go to the doctor's office, actually my specialist sets of my system because I had a transplant when when I was a 12 years old. The whole ordeal was terrible for me and I felt like doctors and nurses had no desire to listen to me, so I just had to be compliant-and boy when I don't like something I'm not a compliant person! Anyways, I check my blood pressure at Supermarkets, Pharmacy's, people's home cuff machines, and its always within "normal" limits. At the doctor's office it's off the wall (even at my lowest and heaviest weight because they blame my weight). I'd be willing to listen to them more if they could do the same, but they're convinced my blood

pressure needs to be managed no matter how much I try to explain it to them. I know we've had posts about finding the right doctor and that is so true. I can't help my specialist right now, with insurance co-pays and such, but I can choose my PCP's and other docs I see. So, I guess this is all to say that I too have wild blood pressure numbers because of some uninterpreted threat my subconscious most likely hasn't gotten over... nor has my conscious-self for that matter! Yes, advocate for yourself as a way of honoring and loving yourself and don't step on that scale if you don't want to!

Best wishes!C

To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Sat, June 11, 2011 7:13:27 AMSubject: Re: Where do I start

Hi, Sandy. I know it sounds silly, but I never really knew you could refuse to be weighed at the doctor's office. Can you refuse to have your blood pressure checked? I hate it when I go to the doctor for one thing and right away they weigh me (ridiculous) and take my blood pressure. My doctor always comes down on me for my pressure, and I'm never happy when I see my weight. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 9:03 AMSubject: Re: Where do I start

Hi Betty. Welcome. Have you read any of the suggested books? I started with "Intuitive Eating" by Trioble and Elyse Resch, also"Women Food and God or others by Geneen Roth, "Big Fat Lies" by Glenn Gaesser, and "health at Every Size" by Bacon. The IE book is a good starting place. I am on my second read and am working with a coach. First of all I did not "overcome" my diet problem of yo-yo dieting. I stopped dieting forever because Diets Don't Work. I too had my weight down until having some surgery and gained it all back plus more. I got rid of my scales and no longer weigh myself. I will not even get weighed at the Dr.'s office. I have the right to refuse that. And focusing on my weight never helped me keep it off, just the opposite. This group is a good place to start too. One idea I am still getting rid of is that thee are no forbidden foods. That was so freeing to me. I ate

hot fudge sundaes almost daily for a couple of weeks and now I could take them or leave them. I am sure I am gaining weight because I had to buy bigger size clothes. And that has been hard, to trust my body in knowing what it needs and paying attention to it. Keep writing in with any specific questions you might have and we will share our experiences, what has worked for me or not worked. Sandy

I have been reading some of the posts, but still confused about some things. Where do I begin to overcome my diet problem? I know that sounds a bit stupid, but I have been on a roller coaster for the past few months that I am just exhausted. I was eating healthy and lost 40 lbs from Sept of last year to Feb of this year. I suffer from panic attachs while in a car and had one and than the roller coaster of eating came and I have gain all that I lost.I weigh 335 right now and as you can see I did not need to gain that weight back when I need to lose alot more.Any advice?Betty

[Guest guest]

You are not alone with " white coat syndrome "   Most people's BP goes up at the MD's office and they should know that. Just some ideas but choosing another doctor sounds like a good one since you have that option.  When your records get transferred however, they will say non-compliant with BP medicine.  So they will have already set you up to fail, maybe. I have a friend who does meditation in the waiting room and deep breathing.  I was able to do self hypnosis at one time and put myself asleep in the dentist's chair! Both meditation and trance work are very much alike and not that hard to do.. There are lots of book and audio tapes out there.  Just make sre it's a good one.  Also I have a relaxation CD that I have played every night when I go to bed.  I have never heard more than the first track because I fall asleep so fast. These are just some thoughts and they might work for you. Also I think you are right when you say that doctors don't know everything.  Contiue your research.  We have to be our own patient advocates today.  Also you cold tell them that you no longer want the lecture about BP.  My MD said he would not mention weight anymore because I had heard it all before and it was my choice what I did with the information.  Sorry this is so long.  Hope some of it helps.  Sandy

 

Hi Tai,

 

 I had to reply to the blood pressure check because it reminds me of my dilemma. While I don't know if you can refuse it without nurses and doctors trying to convince you otherwise, I have heard of and do suffer from the " White Coat Syndrome " ! I basically get so nervous each and every time I go to the doctor's office, actually my specialist sets of my system because I had a transplant when when I was a 12 years old. The whole ordeal was terrible for me and I felt like doctors and nurses had no desire to listen to me, so I just had to be compliant-and boy when I don't like something I'm not a compliant person! Anyways, I check my blood pressure at Supermarkets, Pharmacy's, people's home cuff machines, and its always within " normal " limits. At the doctor's office it's off the wall (even at my lowest and heaviest weight because they blame my weight). I'd be willing to listen to them more if they could do the same, but they're convinced my blood

pressure needs to be managed no matter how much I try to explain it to them. I know we've had posts about finding the right doctor and that is so true. I can't help my specialist right now, with insurance co-pays and such, but I can choose my PCP's and other docs I see. So, I guess this is all to say that I too have wild blood pressure numbers because of some uninterpreted threat my subconscious most likely hasn't gotten over... nor has my conscious-self for that matter! Yes, advocate for yourself as a way of honoring and loving yourself and don't step on that scale if you don't want to!

Best wishes!C

To: " IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >

Sent: Sat, June 11, 2011 7:13:27 AMSubject: Re: Where do I start

 

Hi, Sandy. I know it sounds silly, but I never really knew you could refuse to be weighed at the doctor's office. Can you refuse to have your blood pressure checked? I hate it when I go to the doctor for one thing and right away they weigh me (ridiculous) and take my blood pressure. My doctor always comes down on me for my pressure, and I'm never happy when I see my weight. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 9:03 AMSubject: Re: Where do I start

 

Hi Betty. Welcome. Have you read any of the suggested books? I started with " Intuitive Eating " by Trioble and Elyse Resch, also " Women Food and God or others by Geneen Roth, " Big Fat Lies " by Glenn Gaesser, and " health at Every Size " by Bacon. The IE book is a good starting place.  I am on my second read and am working with a coach.  First of all I did not " overcome " my diet problem of yo-yo dieting. I stopped dieting forever because Diets Don't Work. I too had my weight down until having some surgery and gained it all back plus more.  I got rid of my scales and no longer weigh myself.  I will not even get weighed at the Dr.'s office.  I have the right to refuse that.  And focusing on my weight never helped me keep it off, just the opposite.  This group is a good place to start too.  One idea I am still getting rid of is that thee are no forbidden foods.  That was so freeing to me.  I ate

hot fudge sundaes almost daily for a couple of weeks and now I could take them or leave them.  I am sure I am gaining weight because I had to buy bigger size clothes.  And that has been hard, to trust my body in knowing what it needs and paying attention to it. Keep writing in with any specific questions you might have and we will share our experiences, what has worked for me or not worked.  Sandy

 

I have been reading some of the posts, but still confused about some things. Where do I begin to overcome my diet problem? I know that sounds a bit stupid, but I have been on a roller coaster for the past few months that I am just exhausted.

I was eating healthy and lost 40 lbs from Sept of last year to Feb of this year. I suffer from panic attachs while in a car and had one and than the roller coaster of eating came and I have gain all that I lost.

I weigh 335 right now and as you can see I did not need to gain that weight back when I need to lose alot more.Any advice?Betty

[Guest guest]

,My doctor also told me it is important that the person taking the BP uses the right size cuff. There are different sizes depending on the size of your arm. If the cuff is too small, it may give a false high reading. I think if you take your blood pressure consistently at home and keep a record of it, you can show your doctor that the high BP is in fact "white coat syndrome" which really does exist.CaroleTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sun, June 12, 2011 4:08:16 PMSubject: Re: Where do I start

You are not alone with"white coat syndrome" Most people's BP goes up at the MD's office and they should know that. Just some ideas but choosing another doctor sounds like a good one since you have that option. When your records get transferred however, they will say non-compliant with BP medicine. So they will have already set you up to fail, maybe. I have a friend who does meditation in the waiting room and deep breathing. I was able to do self hypnosis at one time and put myself asleep in the dentist's chair! Both meditation and trance work are very much alike and not that hard to do.. There are lots of book and audio tapes out there. Just make sre it's a good one. Also I have a relaxation CD that I have played every night when I go to bed. I have never heard more than the first track because I fall asleep so fast. These are just some thoughts and they might work for you. Also I think you are right when you say

that doctors don't know everything. Contiue your research. We have to be our own patient advocates today. Also you cold tell them that you no longer want the lecture about BP. My MD said he would not mention weight anymore because I had heard it all before and it was my choice what I did with the information. Sorry this is so long. Hope some of it helps. Sandy

Hi Tai,

I had to reply to the blood pressure check because it reminds me of my dilemma. While I don't know if you can refuse it without nurses and doctors trying to convince you otherwise, I have heard of and do suffer from the "White Coat Syndrome"! I basically get so nervous each and every time I go to the doctor's office, actually my specialist sets of my system because I had a transplant when when I was a 12 years old. The whole ordeal was terrible for me and I felt like doctors and nurses had no desire to listen to me, so I just had to be compliant-and boy when I don't like something I'm not a compliant person! Anyways, I check my blood pressure at Supermarkets, Pharmacy's, people's home cuff machines, and its always within "normal" limits. At the doctor's office it's off the wall (even at my lowest and heaviest weight because they blame my weight). I'd be willing to listen to them more if they could do the same, but they're convinced my blood

pressure needs to be managed no matter how much I try to explain it to them. I know we've had posts about finding the right doctor and that is so true. I can't help my specialist right now, with insurance co-pays and such, but I can choose my PCP's and other docs I see. So, I guess this is all to say that I too have wild blood pressure numbers because of some uninterpreted threat my subconscious most likely hasn't gotten over... nor has my conscious-self for that matter! Yes, advocate for yourself as a way of honoring and loving yourself and don't step on that scale if you don't want to!

Best wishes!C

To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >

Sent: Sat, June 11, 2011 7:13:27 AMSubject: Re: Where do I start

Hi, Sandy. I know it sounds silly, but I never really knew you could refuse to be weighed at the doctor's office. Can you refuse to have your blood pressure checked? I hate it when I go to the doctor for one thing and right away they weigh me (ridiculous) and take my blood pressure. My doctor always comes down on me for my pressure, and I'm never happy when I see my weight. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 9:03 AMSubject: Re: Where do I start

Hi Betty. Welcome. Have you read any of the suggested books? I started with "Intuitive Eating" by Trioble and Elyse Resch, also"Women Food and God or others by Geneen Roth, "Big Fat Lies" by Glenn Gaesser, and "health at Every Size" by Bacon. The IE book is a good starting place. I am on my second read and am working with a coach. First of all I did not "overcome" my diet problem of yo-yo dieting. I stopped dieting forever because Diets Don't Work. I too had my weight down until having some surgery and gained it all back plus more. I got rid of my scales and no longer weigh myself. I will not even get weighed at the Dr.'s office. I have the right to refuse that. And focusing on my weight never helped me keep it off, just the opposite. This group is a good place to start too. One idea I am still getting rid of is that thee are no forbidden foods. That was so freeing to me. I ate

hot fudge sundaes almost daily for a couple of weeks and now I could take them or leave them. I am sure I am gaining weight because I had to buy bigger size clothes. And that has been hard, to trust my body in knowing what it needs and paying attention to it. Keep writing in with any specific questions you might have and we will share our experiences, what has worked for me or not worked. Sandy

I have been reading some of the posts, but still confused about some things. Where do I begin to overcome my diet problem? I know that sounds a bit stupid, but I have been on a roller coaster for the past few months that I am just exhausted.

I was eating healthy and lost 40 lbs from Sept of last year to Feb of this year. I suffer from panic attachs while in a car and had one and than the roller coaster of eating came and I have gain all that I lost.

I weigh 335 right now and as you can see I did not need to gain that weight back when I need to lose alot more.Any advice?Betty

[Guest guest]

Yes, it helps, Sandy. Anything I hear helps, then I make up my own mind. I am quite sure my doctor has figured me out, but I like her, even though I dare not go to her now. I'd be interested in doing a saltfree menu for a while to see if it has anything to do with salt. Not always, cause it sure didn't have anything to do with my weight. It just did not go down even after I lost 60 pounds. I'm going to think about relaxation tapes before I go to sleep. I do notice that listening to some songs, or music, does help me sleep better. Although I have to get up quite frequently to urinate, which disturbs a long sleep. When I sleep more than 4 hours at a time I really feel good about that. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 4:08 PMSubject: Re: Where do I start

You are not alone with"white coat syndrome" Most people's BP goes up at the MD's office and they should know that. Just some ideas but choosing another doctor sounds like a good one since you have that option. When your records get transferred however, they will say non-compliant with BP medicine. So they will have already set you up to fail, maybe. I have a friend who does meditation in the waiting room and deep breathing. I was able to do self hypnosis at one time and put myself asleep in the dentist's chair! Both meditation and trance work are very much alike and not that hard to do.. There are lots of book and audio tapes out there. Just make sre it's a good one. Also I have a relaxation CD that I have played every night when I go to bed. I have never heard more than the first track because I fall asleep so fast. These are just some thoughts and they might work for you. Also I think you are right

when you say that doctors don't know everything. Contiue your research. We have to be our own patient advocates today. Also you cold tell them that you no longer want the lecture about BP. My MD said he would not mention weight anymore because I had heard it all before and it was my choice what I did with the information. Sorry this is so long. Hope some of it helps. Sandy

Hi Tai,

I had to reply to the blood pressure check because it reminds me of my dilemma. While I don't know if you can refuse it without nurses and doctors trying to convince you otherwise, I have heard of and do suffer from the "White Coat Syndrome"! I basically get so nervous each and every time I go to the doctor's office, actually my specialist sets of my system because I had a transplant when when I was a 12 years old. The whole ordeal was terrible for me and I felt like doctors and nurses had no desire to listen to me, so I just had to be compliant-and boy when I don't like something I'm not a compliant person! Anyways, I check my blood pressure at Supermarkets, Pharmacy's, people's home cuff machines, and its always within "normal" limits. At the doctor's office it's off the wall (even at my lowest and heaviest weight because they blame my weight). I'd be willing to listen to them more if they could do the same, but they're convinced my blood

pressure needs to be managed no matter how much I try to explain it to them. I know we've had posts about finding the right doctor and that is so true. I can't help my specialist right now, with insurance co-pays and such, but I can choose my PCP's and other docs I see. So, I guess this is all to say that I too have wild blood pressure numbers because of some uninterpreted threat my subconscious most likely hasn't gotten over... nor has my conscious-self for that matter! Yes, advocate for yourself as a way of honoring and loving yourself and don't step on that scale if you don't want to!

Best wishes!C

To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >

Sent: Sat, June 11, 2011 7:13:27 AMSubject: Re: Where do I start

Hi, Sandy. I know it sounds silly, but I never really knew you could refuse to be weighed at the doctor's office. Can you refuse to have your blood pressure checked? I hate it when I go to the doctor for one thing and right away they weigh me (ridiculous) and take my blood pressure. My doctor always comes down on me for my pressure, and I'm never happy when I see my weight. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 9:03 AMSubject: Re: Where do I start

Hi Betty. Welcome. Have you read any of the suggested books? I started with "Intuitive Eating" by Trioble and Elyse Resch, also"Women Food and God or others by Geneen Roth, "Big Fat Lies" by Glenn Gaesser, and "health at Every Size" by Bacon. The IE book is a good starting place. I am on my second read and am working with a coach. First of all I did not "overcome" my diet problem of yo-yo dieting. I stopped dieting forever because Diets Don't Work. I too had my weight down until having some surgery and gained it all back plus more. I got rid of my scales and no longer weigh myself. I will not even get weighed at the Dr.'s office. I have the right to refuse that. And focusing on my weight never helped me keep it off, just the opposite. This group is a good place to start too. One idea I am still getting rid of is that thee are no forbidden foods. That was so freeing to me. I ate

hot fudge sundaes almost daily for a couple of weeks and now I could take them or leave them. I am sure I am gaining weight because I had to buy bigger size clothes. And that has been hard, to trust my body in knowing what it needs and paying attention to it. Keep writing in with any specific questions you might have and we will share our experiences, what has worked for me or not worked. Sandy

I have been reading some of the posts, but still confused about some things. Where do I begin to overcome my diet problem? I know that sounds a bit stupid, but I have been on a roller coaster for the past few months that I am just exhausted.

I was eating healthy and lost 40 lbs from Sept of last year to Feb of this year. I suffer from panic attachs while in a car and had one and than the roller coaster of eating came and I have gain all that I lost.

I weigh 335 right now and as you can see I did not need to gain that weight back when I need to lose alot more.Any advice?Betty

[Guest guest]

The next time you go to the MD's office maybe you could listen on an ipod or such while you are waiting in the office.  And if you feel uncomfortable talking directly to her or the nurse you could write it down, even if it's just for practice, or even give it to them, in person or mail it.  Let them know exactly how you feel and how all this is affecting you.  Ask them for what you want and need too.  More just ideas to play with. That reminds me, laughter is a great healer.  I did a lot of it with my grandson today.  You don't even have to have anything funny.  Just say " ha, ha, ha "   and then " ho, ho, ho " and hee, hee hee " .  That tricks your brain into producing endorphins.  So does a big wide smile, even if you don't feel like it.  I do it driving in my car a lot. Sandy

 

Yes, it helps, Sandy. Anything I hear helps, then I make up my own mind. I am quite sure my doctor has figured me out, but I like her, even though I dare not go to her now. I'd be interested in doing a saltfree menu for a while to see if it has anything to do with salt. Not always, cause it sure didn't have anything to do with my weight. It just did not go down even after I lost 60 pounds. I'm going to think about relaxation tapes before I go to sleep. I do notice that listening to some songs, or music, does help me sleep better. Although I have to get up quite frequently to urinate, which disturbs a long sleep. When I sleep more than 4 hours at a time I really feel good about that. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 4:08 PMSubject: Re: Where do I start

 

You are not alone with " white coat syndrome "   Most people's BP goes up at the MD's office and they should know that. Just some ideas but choosing another doctor sounds like a good one since you have that option.  When your records get transferred however, they will say non-compliant with BP medicine.  So they will have already set you up to fail, maybe. I have a friend who does meditation in the waiting room and deep breathing.  I was able to do self hypnosis at one time and put myself asleep in the dentist's chair! Both meditation and trance work are very much alike and not that hard to do.. There are lots of book and audio tapes out there.  Just make sre it's a good one.  Also I have a relaxation CD that I have played every night when I go to bed.  I have never heard more than the first track because I fall asleep so fast. These are just some thoughts and they might work for you. Also I think you are right

when you say that doctors don't know everything.  Contiue your research.  We have to be our own patient advocates today.  Also you cold tell them that you no longer want the lecture about BP.  My MD said he would not mention weight anymore because I had heard it all before and it was my choice what I did with the information.  Sorry this is so long.  Hope some of it helps.  Sandy

 

Hi Tai,

 

 I had to reply to the blood pressure check because it reminds me of my dilemma. While I don't know if you can refuse it without nurses and doctors trying to convince you otherwise, I have heard of and do suffer from the " White Coat Syndrome " ! I basically get so nervous each and every time I go to the doctor's office, actually my specialist sets of my system because I had a transplant when when I was a 12 years old. The whole ordeal was terrible for me and I felt like doctors and nurses had no desire to listen to me, so I just had to be compliant-and boy when I don't like something I'm not a compliant person! Anyways, I check my blood pressure at Supermarkets, Pharmacy's, people's home cuff machines, and its always within " normal " limits. At the doctor's office it's off the wall (even at my lowest and heaviest weight because they blame my weight). I'd be willing to listen to them more if they could do the same, but they're convinced my blood

pressure needs to be managed no matter how much I try to explain it to them. I know we've had posts about finding the right doctor and that is so true. I can't help my specialist right now, with insurance co-pays and such, but I can choose my PCP's and other docs I see. So, I guess this is all to say that I too have wild blood pressure numbers because of some uninterpreted threat my subconscious most likely hasn't gotten over... nor has my conscious-self for that matter! Yes, advocate for yourself as a way of honoring and loving yourself and don't step on that scale if you don't want to!

Best wishes!C

To: " IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >

Sent: Sat, June 11, 2011 7:13:27 AMSubject: Re: Where do I start

 

Hi, Sandy. I know it sounds silly, but I never really knew you could refuse to be weighed at the doctor's office. Can you refuse to have your blood pressure checked? I hate it when I go to the doctor for one thing and right away they weigh me (ridiculous) and take my blood pressure. My doctor always comes down on me for my pressure, and I'm never happy when I see my weight. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 9:03 AMSubject: Re: Where do I start

 

Hi Betty. Welcome. Have you read any of the suggested books? I started with " Intuitive Eating " by Trioble and Elyse Resch, also " Women Food and God or others by Geneen Roth, " Big Fat Lies " by Glenn Gaesser, and " health at Every Size " by Bacon. The IE book is a good starting place.  I am on my second read and am working with a coach.  First of all I did not " overcome " my diet problem of yo-yo dieting. I stopped dieting forever because Diets Don't Work. I too had my weight down until having some surgery and gained it all back plus more.  I got rid of my scales and no longer weigh myself.  I will not even get weighed at the Dr.'s office.  I have the right to refuse that.  And focusing on my weight never helped me keep it off, just the opposite.  This group is a good place to start too.  One idea I am still getting rid of is that thee are no forbidden foods.  That was so freeing to me.  I ate

hot fudge sundaes almost daily for a couple of weeks and now I could take them or leave them.  I am sure I am gaining weight because I had to buy bigger size clothes.  And that has been hard, to trust my body in knowing what it needs and paying attention to it. Keep writing in with any specific questions you might have and we will share our experiences, what has worked for me or not worked.  Sandy

 

I have been reading some of the posts, but still confused about some things. Where do I begin to overcome my diet problem? I know that sounds a bit stupid, but I have been on a roller coaster for the past few months that I am just exhausted.

I was eating healthy and lost 40 lbs from Sept of last year to Feb of this year. I suffer from panic attachs while in a car and had one and than the roller coaster of eating came and I have gain all that I lost.

I weigh 335 right now and as you can see I did not need to gain that weight back when I need to lose alot more.Any advice?Betty

[Guest guest]

you are so right.

 

,My doctor also told me it is important that the person taking the BP uses the right size cuff.  There are different sizes depending on the size of your arm. If the cuff is too small, it may give a false high reading. I think if you take your blood pressure consistently at home and keep a record of it, you can show your doctor that the high BP is in fact " white coat syndrome " which really does exist.

Carole

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Sent: Sun, June 12, 2011 4:08:16 PMSubject: Re: Where do I start

You are not alone with " white coat syndrome "   Most people's BP goes up at the MD's office and they should know that. Just some ideas but choosing another doctor sounds like a good one since you have that option.  When your records get transferred however, they will say non-compliant with BP medicine.  So they will have already set you up to fail, maybe. I have a friend who does meditation in the waiting room and deep breathing.  I was able to do self hypnosis at one time and put myself asleep in the dentist's chair! Both meditation and trance work are very much alike and not that hard to do.. There are lots of book and audio tapes out there.  Just make sre it's a good one.  Also I have a relaxation CD that I have played every night when I go to bed.  I have never heard more than the first track because I fall asleep so fast. These are just some thoughts and they might work for you. Also I think you are right when you say

that doctors don't know everything.  Contiue your research.  We have to be our own patient advocates today.  Also you cold tell them that you no longer want the lecture about BP.  My MD said he would not mention weight anymore because I had heard it all before and it was my choice what I did with the information.  Sorry this is so long.  Hope some of it helps.  Sandy

 

Hi Tai,

 

 I had to reply to the blood pressure check because it reminds me of my dilemma. While I don't know if you can refuse it without nurses and doctors trying to convince you otherwise, I have heard of and do suffer from the " White Coat Syndrome " ! I basically get so nervous each and every time I go to the doctor's office, actually my specialist sets of my system because I had a transplant when when I was a 12 years old. The whole ordeal was terrible for me and I felt like doctors and nurses had no desire to listen to me, so I just had to be compliant-and boy when I don't like something I'm not a compliant person! Anyways, I check my blood pressure at Supermarkets, Pharmacy's, people's home cuff machines, and its always within " normal " limits. At the doctor's office it's off the wall (even at my lowest and heaviest weight because they blame my weight). I'd be willing to listen to them more if they could do the same, but they're convinced my blood

pressure needs to be managed no matter how much I try to explain it to them. I know we've had posts about finding the right doctor and that is so true. I can't help my specialist right now, with insurance co-pays and such, but I can choose my PCP's and other docs I see. So, I guess this is all to say that I too have wild blood pressure numbers because of some uninterpreted threat my subconscious most likely hasn't gotten over... nor has my conscious-self for that matter! Yes, advocate for yourself as a way of honoring and loving yourself and don't step on that scale if you don't want to!

Best wishes!C

To: " IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >

Sent: Sat, June 11, 2011 7:13:27 AMSubject: Re: Where do I start

 

Hi, Sandy. I know it sounds silly, but I never really knew you could refuse to be weighed at the doctor's office. Can you refuse to have your blood pressure checked? I hate it when I go to the doctor for one thing and right away they weigh me (ridiculous) and take my blood pressure. My doctor always comes down on me for my pressure, and I'm never happy when I see my weight. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 9:03 AMSubject: Re: Where do I start

 

Hi Betty. Welcome. Have you read any of the suggested books? I started with " Intuitive Eating " by Trioble and Elyse Resch, also " Women Food and God or others by Geneen Roth, " Big Fat Lies " by Glenn Gaesser, and " health at Every Size " by Bacon. The IE book is a good starting place.  I am on my second read and am working with a coach.  First of all I did not " overcome " my diet problem of yo-yo dieting. I stopped dieting forever because Diets Don't Work. I too had my weight down until having some surgery and gained it all back plus more.  I got rid of my scales and no longer weigh myself.  I will not even get weighed at the Dr.'s office.  I have the right to refuse that.  And focusing on my weight never helped me keep it off, just the opposite.  This group is a good place to start too.  One idea I am still getting rid of is that thee are no forbidden foods.  That was so freeing to me.  I ate

hot fudge sundaes almost daily for a couple of weeks and now I could take them or leave them.  I am sure I am gaining weight because I had to buy bigger size clothes.  And that has been hard, to trust my body in knowing what it needs and paying attention to it. Keep writing in with any specific questions you might have and we will share our experiences, what has worked for me or not worked.  Sandy

 

I have been reading some of the posts, but still confused about some things. Where do I begin to overcome my diet problem? I know that sounds a bit stupid, but I have been on a roller coaster for the past few months that I am just exhausted.

I was eating healthy and lost 40 lbs from Sept of last year to Feb of this year. I suffer from panic attachs while in a car and had one and than the roller coaster of eating came and I have gain all that I lost.

I weigh 335 right now and as you can see I did not need to gain that weight back when I need to lose alot more.Any advice?Betty

[Guest guest]

Hi Shoku!

You had a kidney transplant 16 years ago-wow that's great and congrats! How were you able to convince or show your doctor that your BP was low outside of the office? I have been able to have some low readings at my personal care physician and physical appointments for work, but never at any of the transplant clinics I've been too. Oh, have you talked to your doctors about IE?

Yes, I had a kidney transplant too and last April was 19 years for me! I have a check-up in two weeks to see how everything is going and just the thought of that makes me nervous. I do practice sitting and walking meditation, so that helps in the meantime. Yes, Good Luck to you too and thank you for sharing!

C

To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Cc: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Sun, June 12, 2011 12:31:31 PMSubject: Re: Where do I start

Hi CL

I also had a kidney transplant 16 years ago

I used to panic about my BP too but

I learned my true blood pressure does not

Show at the doctor office . Now my doctor

Also agrees . I take my BP at home then

I go for checkup

What kind of transplant you had?

How long has it been?

Good luck

Shoku

Shoku

Hi Tai,

I had to reply to the blood pressure check because it reminds me of my dilemma. While I don't know if you can refuse it without nurses and doctors trying to convince you otherwise, I have heard of and do suffer from the "White Coat Syndrome"! I basically get so nervous each and every time I go to the doctor's office, actually my specialist sets of my system because I had a transplant when when I was a 12 years old. The whole ordeal was terrible for me and I felt like doctors and nurses had no desire to listen to me, so I just had to be compliant-and boy when I don't like something I'm not a compliant person! Anyways, I check my blood pressure at Supermarkets, Pharmacy's, people's home cuff machines, and its always within "normal" limits. At the doctor's office it's off the wall (even at my lowest and heaviest weight because they blame my weight). I'd be willing to listen to them more if they could do the same, but they're convinced my blood

pressure needs to be managed no matter how much I try to explain it to them. I know we've had posts about finding the right doctor and that is so true. I can't help my specialist right now, with insurance co-pays and such, but I can choose my PCP's and other docs I see. So, I guess this is all to say that I too have wild blood pressure numbers because of some uninterpreted threat my subconscious most likely hasn't gotten over... nor has my conscious-self for that matter! Yes, advocate for yourself as a way of honoring and loving yourself and don't step on that scale if you don't want to!

Best wishes!C

To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Sat, June 11, 2011 7:13:27 AMSubject: Re: Where do I start

Hi, Sandy. I know it sounds silly, but I never really knew you could refuse to be weighed at the doctor's office. Can you refuse to have your blood pressure checked? I hate it when I go to the doctor for one thing and right away they weigh me (ridiculous) and take my blood pressure. My doctor always comes down on me for my pressure, and I'm never happy when I see my weight. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 9:03 AMSubject: Re: Where do I start

Hi Betty. Welcome. Have you read any of the suggested books? I started with "Intuitive Eating" by Trioble and Elyse Resch, also"Women Food and God or others by Geneen Roth, "Big Fat Lies" by Glenn Gaesser, and "health at Every Size" by Bacon. The IE book is a good starting place. I am on my second read and am working with a coach. First of all I did not "overcome" my diet problem of yo-yo dieting. I stopped dieting forever because Diets Don't Work. I too had my weight down until having some surgery and gained it all back plus more. I got rid of my scales and no longer weigh myself. I will not even get weighed at the Dr.'s office. I have the right to refuse that. And focusing on my weight never helped me keep it off, just the opposite. This group is a good place to start too. One idea I am still getting rid of is that thee are no forbidden foods. That was so freeing to me. I ate

hot fudge sundaes almost daily for a couple of weeks and now I could take them or leave them. I am sure I am gaining weight because I had to buy bigger size clothes. And that has been hard, to trust my body in knowing what it needs and paying attention to it. Keep writing in with any specific questions you might have and we will share our experiences, what has worked for me or not worked. Sandy

I have been reading some of the posts, but still confused about some things. Where do I begin to overcome my diet problem? I know that sounds a bit stupid, but I have been on a roller coaster for the past few months that I am just exhausted. I was eating healthy and lost 40 lbs from Sept of last year to Feb of this year. I suffer from panic attachs while in a car and had one and than the roller coaster of eating came and I have gain all that I lost.I weigh 335 right now and as you can see I did not need to gain that weight back when I need to lose alot more.Any advice?Betty

[Guest guest]

Hi Sandy,

Those are fabulous ideas! I love the falling asleep in the dentist chair, do you think they could take my blood pressure when I am sleeping!?!?! I want to try listening to something soothing as I'm in the waiting room. Reading your post actually reminded me of another reason I am so anxious at my appointments and that is mainly because I see a lot of patients that are really sick, just like I was and I remember my own childhood fears surfacing. This is a topic I've brought to therapy, however I hadn't related it to the waiting room and my BP. Yes, some relaxation music and advocating for myself are really important reminders for me. And, I don't want any lectures... never worked for me as a kid and certainly never worked for me as an adult! Thank you!C

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sun, June 12, 2011 2:08:16 PMSubject: Re: Where do I start

You are not alone with"white coat syndrome" Most people's BP goes up at the MD's office and they should know that. Just some ideas but choosing another doctor sounds like a good one since you have that option. When your records get transferred however, they will say non-compliant with BP medicine. So they will have already set you up to fail, maybe. I have a friend who does meditation in the waiting room and deep breathing. I was able to do self hypnosis at one time and put myself asleep in the dentist's chair! Both meditation and trance work are very much alike and not that hard to do.. There are lots of book and audio tapes out there. Just make sre it's a good one. Also I have a relaxation CD that I have played every night when I go to bed. I have never heard more than the first track because I fall asleep so fast. These are just some thoughts and they might work for you. Also I think you are right when you

say that doctors don't know everything. Contiue your research. We have to be our own patient advocates today. Also you cold tell them that you no longer want the lecture about BP. My MD said he would not mention weight anymore because I had heard it all before and it was my choice what I did with the information. Sorry this is so long. Hope some of it helps. Sandy

Hi Tai,

I had to reply to the blood pressure check because it reminds me of my dilemma. While I don't know if you can refuse it without nurses and doctors trying to convince you otherwise, I have heard of and do suffer from the "White Coat Syndrome"! I basically get so nervous each and every time I go to the doctor's office, actually my specialist sets of my system because I had a transplant when when I was a 12 years old. The whole ordeal was terrible for me and I felt like doctors and nurses had no desire to listen to me, so I just had to be compliant-and boy when I don't like something I'm not a compliant person! Anyways, I check my blood pressure at Supermarkets, Pharmacy's, people's home cuff machines, and its always within "normal" limits. At the doctor's office it's off the wall (even at my lowest and heaviest weight because they blame my weight). I'd be willing to listen to them more if they could do the same, but they're convinced my blood

pressure needs to be managed no matter how much I try to explain it to them. I know we've had posts about finding the right doctor and that is so true. I can't help my specialist right now, with insurance co-pays and such, but I can choose my PCP's and other docs I see. So, I guess this is all to say that I too have wild blood pressure numbers because of some uninterpreted threat my subconscious most likely hasn't gotten over... nor has my conscious-self for that matter! Yes, advocate for yourself as a way of honoring and loving yourself and don't step on that scale if you don't want to!

Best wishes!C

To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Sat, June 11, 2011 7:13:27 AM Subject: Re: Where do I start

Hi, Sandy. I know it sounds silly, but I never really knew you could refuse to be weighed at the doctor's office. Can you refuse to have your blood pressure checked? I hate it when I go to the doctor for one thing and right away they weigh me (ridiculous) and take my blood pressure. My doctor always comes down on me for my pressure, and I'm never happy when I see my weight. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 9:03 AMSubject: Re: Where do I start

Hi Betty. Welcome. Have you read any of the suggested books? I started with "Intuitive Eating" by Trioble and Elyse Resch, also"Women Food and God or others by Geneen Roth, "Big Fat Lies" by Glenn Gaesser, and "health at Every Size" by Bacon. The IE book is a good starting place. I am on my second read and am working with a coach. First of all I did not "overcome" my diet problem of yo-yo dieting. I stopped dieting forever because Diets Don't Work. I too had my weight down until having some surgery and gained it all back plus more. I got rid of my scales and no longer weigh myself. I will not even get weighed at the Dr.'s office. I have the right to refuse that. And focusing on my weight never helped me keep it off, just the opposite. This group is a good place to start too. One idea I am still getting rid of is that thee are no forbidden foods. That was so freeing to me. I ate

hot fudge sundaes almost daily for a couple of weeks and now I could take them or leave them. I am sure I am gaining weight because I had to buy bigger size clothes. And that has been hard, to trust my body in knowing what it needs and paying attention to it. Keep writing in with any specific questions you might have and we will share our experiences, what has worked for me or not worked. Sandy

I have been reading some of the posts, but still confused about some things. Where do I begin to overcome my diet problem? I know that sounds a bit stupid, but I have been on a roller coaster for the past few months that I am just exhausted. I was eating healthy and lost 40 lbs from Sept of last year to Feb of this year. I suffer from panic attachs while in a car and had one and than the roller coaster of eating came and I have gain all that I lost.I weigh 335 right now and as you can see I did not need to gain that weight back when I need to lose alot more.Any advice?Betty

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sandy,

I have not read any of those books, but I will put them on my list. I love reading and buy books when I can. I know now that my biggest problem is emotional eating. I can stay on a diet and exercise program for months and than something comes up that stress's me and than I start to over eat.

Do you think this program will help that? Are their any books that would be better for someone like me?

Thanks for any advice.

Betty

Re: Where do I start

Hi Betty. Welcome. Have you read any of the suggested books? I started with "Intuitive Eating" by Trioble and Elyse Resch, also"Women Food and God or others by Geneen Roth, "Big Fat Lies" by Glenn Gaesser, and "health at Every Size"

[Guest guest]



Hello Tai,Good for you for not overeating at your friends house. I do not have that problem. I do not like to eat out fromf my home. I do not go to resturants or to dinner at friends homes. I know it sounds terrible, but I just don't do it right now. Our familys are spread across the States and we only see them at the family reunion once a year. We don't have friends like we use to, it seems everyone is so busy and not time for get togethers.

Around the holidays is when we get to see the kids and I fixed dinners and goodies. I can control myself at that time of the year too with no problems.

My only problem as I see it now, I may have some more and just not know it, is stress eating.

Betty

Re: Where do I start

Hi, Betty. Thanks for posting, I enjoyed reading your post, but sorry you feel the way you do. I understand about being overweight. I am coming to terms with IE. I really am going to learn to live with my situation, but here's how: by not worrying too much.. The reason I say 'too much' is because

[Guest guest]

I have read that once our bodies trust

us to eat when we are hungry, the most natural response to stress is Not

eating. When we are stressed and also dieting at the same time, the body

figures it can solve at least one of the problems by making it want more food,

thereby fulfilling the “starving” body.

One of my other favorite books is “How

to Become Naturally Thin by Eating More” by Antonello. It’s a great book.

Kate in Spokane

From:

IntuitiveEating_Support [mailto:IntuitiveEating_Support ]

On Behalf Of B & D

Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 8:27

AM

To:

IntuitiveEating_Support

Subject: Re:

Where do I start

Thanks Sandy,

I have not read any of those books, but I will put them on

my list. I love reading and buy books when I can. I know now that my biggest

problem is emotional eating. I can stay on a diet and exercise program for

months and than something comes up that stress's me and than I start to over

eat.

Do you think this program will help that? Are their

any books that would be better for someone like me?

Thanks for any advice.

Betty

Re:

Where do I start

Hi Betty.

Welcome. Have you read any of the suggested books? I started with

" Intuitive Eating " by Trioble and Elyse Resch, also " Women

Food and God or others by Geneen Roth, " Big Fat Lies " by Glenn

Gaesser, and " health at Every Size "

[Guest guest]

That sounds so true. When I am bingeing it seems that I want more food, even when I am so full that it hurts. That is how bad I get at times. That books sounds like a good one too.

Betty

RE: Where do I start

I have read that once our bodies trust us to eat when we are hungry, the most natural response to stress is Not eating. When we are stressed and also dieting at the same time, the body figures it can solve at least one of the problems by making it want more food, thereby fulfilling the “starving” body.

One of my other favorite books is “How to Become Naturally Thin by Eating More” by Antonello. It’s a great book.

Kate in Spokane

From: IntuitiveEating_Support [mailto:IntuitiveEating_Support ]

[Guest guest]

I found Women, Food and God by Geneen Roth to be GREAT for addressing the emotional aspects of why we eat. I highly recommend it.Best,AbbyIE since 11/08

PS i also recommend borrowing from the library... you can always decide to buy them later!

 

Thanks Sandy,

 

I have not read any of those books, but I will put them on my list. I love reading and buy books when I can. I know now that my biggest problem is emotional eating. I can stay on a diet and exercise program for months and than something comes up that stress's me and than I start to over eat.

 

Do you think this program will help that?  Are their any books that would be better for someone like me?

 

Thanks for any advice.

 

Betty

Re: Where do I start

 

Hi Betty. Welcome. Have you read any of the suggested books? I started with " Intuitive Eating " by Trioble and Elyse Resch, also " Women Food and God or others by Geneen Roth, " Big Fat Lies " by Glenn Gaesser, and " health at Every Size "

[Guest guest]

Tai, one thing you can do - for yourself! - is to get an inexpensive blood

pressure cuff and take your own readings. There really is a phenomenon called

'white coat hypertension', which is where your pressure reads higher mainly due

to the tension we all feel when we are in the doctor's office. And if you keep

track of your BP reading (weekly if high, monthly if not), you can print it out

and give it to your doctor for him/her to keep in their files. It makes it easy

for your doctor to review the readings and know s/he has done their job too.

Blood pressure is 'invisible' and not something most people check for themselves

which is why medical people feel its a good idea to check it when you are there.

But if the readings there aren't an accurate reflection of YOUR reality, both

you and the doctor need to know that.

Best wishes, Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> Hi, Sandy. I know it sounds silly, but I never really knew you could refuse to

be weighed at the doctor's office. Can you refuse to have your blood pressure

checked? I hate it when I go to the doctor for one thing and right away they

weigh me (ridiculous) and take my blood pressure. My doctor always comes down on

me for my pressure, and I'm never happy when I see my weight. Tai

>

[Guest guest]

Congratulations to you, CL, and Shoku! I am proud of you both to be in your company! You are doing so well!!!! Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 5:15 AMSubject: Re: Where do I start

Hi Shoku!

You had a kidney transplant 16 years ago-wow that's great and congrats! How were you able to convince or show your doctor that your BP was low outside of the office? I have been able to have some low readings at my personal care physician and physical appointments for work, but never at any of the transplant clinics I've been too. Oh, have you talked to your doctors about IE?

Yes, I had a kidney transplant too and last April was 19 years for me! I have a check-up in two weeks to see how everything is going and just the thought of that makes me nervous. I do practice sitting and walking meditation, so that helps in the meantime. Yes, Good Luck to you too and thank you for sharing!

C

To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Cc: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Sun, June 12, 2011 12:31:31 PMSubject: Re: Where do I start

Hi CL

I also had a kidney transplant 16 years ago

I used to panic about my BP too but

I learned my true blood pressure does not

Show at the doctor office . Now my doctor

Also agrees . I take my BP at home then

I go for checkup

What kind of transplant you had?

How long has it been?

Good luck

Shoku

Shoku

Hi Tai,

I had to reply to the blood pressure check because it reminds me of my dilemma. While I don't know if you can refuse it without nurses and doctors trying to convince you otherwise, I have heard of and do suffer from the "White Coat Syndrome"! I basically get so nervous each and every time I go to the doctor's office, actually my specialist sets of my system because I had a transplant when when I was a 12 years old. The whole ordeal was terrible for me and I felt like doctors and nurses had no desire to listen to me, so I just had to be compliant-and boy when I don't like something I'm not a compliant person! Anyways, I check my blood pressure at Supermarkets, Pharmacy's, people's home cuff machines, and its always within "normal" limits. At the doctor's office it's off the wall (even at my lowest and heaviest weight because they blame my weight). I'd be willing to listen to them more if they could do the same, but they're convinced my blood

pressure needs to be managed no matter how much I try to explain it to them. I know we've had posts about finding the right doctor and that is so true. I can't help my specialist right now, with insurance co-pays and such, but I can choose my PCP's and other docs I see. So, I guess this is all to say that I too have wild blood pressure numbers because of some uninterpreted threat my subconscious most likely hasn't gotten over... nor has my conscious-self for that matter! Yes, advocate for yourself as a way of honoring and loving yourself and don't step on that scale if you don't want to!

Best wishes!C

To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Sat, June 11, 2011 7:13:27 AMSubject: Re: Where do I start

Hi, Sandy. I know it sounds silly, but I never really knew you could refuse to be weighed at the doctor's office. Can you refuse to have your blood pressure checked? I hate it when I go to the doctor for one thing and right away they weigh me (ridiculous) and take my blood pressure. My doctor always comes down on me for my pressure, and I'm never happy when I see my weight. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Saturday, June

11, 2011 9:03 AMSubject: Re: Where do I start

Hi Betty. Welcome. Have you read any of the suggested books? I started with "Intuitive Eating" by Trioble and Elyse Resch, also"Women Food and God or others by Geneen Roth, "Big Fat Lies" by Glenn Gaesser, and "health at Every Size" by Bacon. The IE book is a good starting place. I am on my second read and am working with a coach. First of all I did not "overcome" my diet problem of yo-yo dieting. I stopped dieting forever because Diets Don't Work. I too had my weight down until having some surgery and gained it all back plus more. I got rid of my scales and no longer weigh myself. I will not even get weighed at the Dr.'s office. I have the right to refuse that. And focusing on my weight never helped me keep it off, just the opposite. This group is a good place to start too. One idea I am still getting rid of is that thee are no forbidden foods. That was so freeing to me. I ate

hot fudge sundaes almost daily for a couple of weeks and now I could take them or leave them. I am sure I am gaining weight because I had to buy bigger size clothes. And that has been hard, to trust my body in knowing what it needs and paying attention to it. Keep writing in with any specific questions you might have and we will share our experiences, what has worked for me or not worked. Sandy

I have been reading some of the posts, but still confused about some things. Where do I begin to overcome my diet problem? I know that sounds a bit stupid, but I have been on a roller coaster for the past few months that I am just exhausted. I was eating healthy and lost 40 lbs from Sept of last year to Feb of this year. I suffer from panic attachs while in a car and had one and than the roller coaster of eating came and I have gain all that I lost.I weigh 335 right now and as you can see I did not need to gain that weight back when I need to lose alot more.Any advice?Betty

[Guest guest]

Congratulations to you, CL, and Shoku! I am proud of you both to be in your company! You are doing so well!!!! Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 5:15 AMSubject: Re: Where do I start

Hi Shoku!

You had a kidney transplant 16 years ago-wow that's great and congrats! How were you able to convince or show your doctor that your BP was low outside of the office? I have been able to have some low readings at my personal care physician and physical appointments for work, but never at any of the transplant clinics I've been too. Oh, have you talked to your doctors about IE?

Yes, I had a kidney transplant too and last April was 19 years for me! I have a check-up in two weeks to see how everything is going and just the thought of that makes me nervous. I do practice sitting and walking meditation, so that helps in the meantime. Yes, Good Luck to you too and thank you for sharing!

C

To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Cc: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Sun, June 12, 2011 12:31:31 PMSubject: Re: Where do I start

Hi CL

I also had a kidney transplant 16 years ago

I used to panic about my BP too but

I learned my true blood pressure does not

Show at the doctor office . Now my doctor

Also agrees . I take my BP at home then

I go for checkup

What kind of transplant you had?

How long has it been?

Good luck

Shoku

Shoku

Hi Tai,

I had to reply to the blood pressure check because it reminds me of my dilemma. While I don't know if you can refuse it without nurses and doctors trying to convince you otherwise, I have heard of and do suffer from the "White Coat Syndrome"! I basically get so nervous each and every time I go to the doctor's office, actually my specialist sets of my system because I had a transplant when when I was a 12 years old. The whole ordeal was terrible for me and I felt like doctors and nurses had no desire to listen to me, so I just had to be compliant-and boy when I don't like something I'm not a compliant person! Anyways, I check my blood pressure at Supermarkets, Pharmacy's, people's home cuff machines, and its always within "normal" limits. At the doctor's office it's off the wall (even at my lowest and heaviest weight because they blame my weight). I'd be willing to listen to them more if they could do the same, but they're convinced my blood

pressure needs to be managed no matter how much I try to explain it to them. I know we've had posts about finding the right doctor and that is so true. I can't help my specialist right now, with insurance co-pays and such, but I can choose my PCP's and other docs I see. So, I guess this is all to say that I too have wild blood pressure numbers because of some uninterpreted threat my subconscious most likely hasn't gotten over... nor has my conscious-self for that matter! Yes, advocate for yourself as a way of honoring and loving yourself and don't step on that scale if you don't want to!

Best wishes!C

To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Sat, June 11, 2011 7:13:27 AMSubject: Re: Where do I start

Hi, Sandy. I know it sounds silly, but I never really knew you could refuse to be weighed at the doctor's office. Can you refuse to have your blood pressure checked? I hate it when I go to the doctor for one thing and right away they weigh me (ridiculous) and take my blood pressure. My doctor always comes down on me for my pressure, and I'm never happy when I see my weight. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Saturday, June

11, 2011 9:03 AMSubject: Re: Where do I start

Hi Betty. Welcome. Have you read any of the suggested books? I started with "Intuitive Eating" by Trioble and Elyse Resch, also"Women Food and God or others by Geneen Roth, "Big Fat Lies" by Glenn Gaesser, and "health at Every Size" by Bacon. The IE book is a good starting place. I am on my second read and am working with a coach. First of all I did not "overcome" my diet problem of yo-yo dieting. I stopped dieting forever because Diets Don't Work. I too had my weight down until having some surgery and gained it all back plus more. I got rid of my scales and no longer weigh myself. I will not even get weighed at the Dr.'s office. I have the right to refuse that. And focusing on my weight never helped me keep it off, just the opposite. This group is a good place to start too. One idea I am still getting rid of is that thee are no forbidden foods. That was so freeing to me. I ate

hot fudge sundaes almost daily for a couple of weeks and now I could take them or leave them. I am sure I am gaining weight because I had to buy bigger size clothes. And that has been hard, to trust my body in knowing what it needs and paying attention to it. Keep writing in with any specific questions you might have and we will share our experiences, what has worked for me or not worked. Sandy

I have been reading some of the posts, but still confused about some things. Where do I begin to overcome my diet problem? I know that sounds a bit stupid, but I have been on a roller coaster for the past few months that I am just exhausted. I was eating healthy and lost 40 lbs from Sept of last year to Feb of this year. I suffer from panic attachs while in a car and had one and than the roller coaster of eating came and I have gain all that I lost.I weigh 335 right now and as you can see I did not need to gain that weight back when I need to lose alot more.Any advice?Betty