Re: It's Something At Least

[Guest guest]

Margaret, you did a good job.  And going to the park sounds like a great idea.  I live in Florida and it has been near 100 here.  Too hot for walking out side except after dark or early in the morning maybe.  Then with all the fires around there has been too much smoke. I have found that the Mall is a good place to walk and when I go grocery shopping, I go up and down all the aisles even if I don't need to. Sometimes we just have to get creative. Keep up the good work.  Sandy

 

Well, I am currently unemployed and babysitting for my grandson until sometime in August.  Though I have been watching him since mid-April, today is only the third time I have

taken him for a walk in the stroller.  My son & his wife live on a street that is a very steep hill; it's part of the reason (or excuse) I have had for not taking him on walks.  Today I ventured out again, and 

between the heat of the day and this hill, we didn't go very far.  I have decided thatI'm going to take him to a nearby park where I can walk without the hill.  Just thestruggle I had coming up the hill was both depressing and motivating at the same

time.  Rather than set myself up for failure, it seems to make sense to go for

walkswhere I'm not out of breath in less than five minutes. I'm telling myself that at least I did something, right?Thanks, Margaret

[Guest guest]

Margaret, you did a good job.  And going to the park sounds like a great idea.  I live in Florida and it has been near 100 here.  Too hot for walking out side except after dark or early in the morning maybe.  Then with all the fires around there has been too much smoke. I have found that the Mall is a good place to walk and when I go grocery shopping, I go up and down all the aisles even if I don't need to. Sometimes we just have to get creative. Keep up the good work.  Sandy

 

Well, I am currently unemployed and babysitting for my grandson until sometime in August.  Though I have been watching him since mid-April, today is only the third time I have

taken him for a walk in the stroller.  My son & his wife live on a street that is a very steep hill; it's part of the reason (or excuse) I have had for not taking him on walks.  Today I ventured out again, and 

between the heat of the day and this hill, we didn't go very far.  I have decided thatI'm going to take him to a nearby park where I can walk without the hill.  Just thestruggle I had coming up the hill was both depressing and motivating at the same

time.  Rather than set myself up for failure, it seems to make sense to go for

walkswhere I'm not out of breath in less than five minutes. I'm telling myself that at least I did something, right?Thanks, Margaret

[Guest guest]

Margaret, you did a good job.  And going to the park sounds like a great idea.  I live in Florida and it has been near 100 here.  Too hot for walking out side except after dark or early in the morning maybe.  Then with all the fires around there has been too much smoke. I have found that the Mall is a good place to walk and when I go grocery shopping, I go up and down all the aisles even if I don't need to. Sometimes we just have to get creative. Keep up the good work.  Sandy

 

Well, I am currently unemployed and babysitting for my grandson until sometime in August.  Though I have been watching him since mid-April, today is only the third time I have

taken him for a walk in the stroller.  My son & his wife live on a street that is a very steep hill; it's part of the reason (or excuse) I have had for not taking him on walks.  Today I ventured out again, and 

between the heat of the day and this hill, we didn't go very far.  I have decided thatI'm going to take him to a nearby park where I can walk without the hill.  Just thestruggle I had coming up the hill was both depressing and motivating at the same

time.  Rather than set myself up for failure, it seems to make sense to go for

walkswhere I'm not out of breath in less than five minutes. I'm telling myself that at least I did something, right?Thanks, Margaret

[Guest guest]

Yes, Margaret, you did something right. I'm sure you did more than one thing right. :-) Tai

To: IE Support <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 12:50 PMSubject: It's Something At Least

Well, I am currently unemployed and babysitting for my grandson until sometime in August. Though I have been watching him since mid-April, today is only the third time I have taken him for a walk in the stroller. My son & his wife live on a street that is a very steep hill; it's part of the reason (or excuse) I have had for not taking him on walks. Today I ventured out again, and between the heat of the day and this hill, we didn't go very far. I have decided thatI'm going to take him to a nearby park where I can walk without the hill. Just thestruggle I had coming up the hill was both depressing and motivating at the sametime. Rather than set myself up for failure, it seems to make sense to go for walkswhere I'm not out of breath in less than five minutes. I'm telling myself that at least I did something, right?Thanks,

Margaret

[Guest guest]

Yes, Margaret, you did something right. I'm sure you did more than one thing right. :-) Tai

To: IE Support <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 12:50 PMSubject: It's Something At Least

Well, I am currently unemployed and babysitting for my grandson until sometime in August. Though I have been watching him since mid-April, today is only the third time I have taken him for a walk in the stroller. My son & his wife live on a street that is a very steep hill; it's part of the reason (or excuse) I have had for not taking him on walks. Today I ventured out again, and between the heat of the day and this hill, we didn't go very far. I have decided thatI'm going to take him to a nearby park where I can walk without the hill. Just thestruggle I had coming up the hill was both depressing and motivating at the sametime. Rather than set myself up for failure, it seems to make sense to go for walkswhere I'm not out of breath in less than five minutes. I'm telling myself that at least I did something, right?Thanks,

Margaret

[Guest guest]

Yes, Margaret, you did something right. I'm sure you did more than one thing right. :-) Tai

To: IE Support <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 12:50 PMSubject: It's Something At Least

Well, I am currently unemployed and babysitting for my grandson until sometime in August. Though I have been watching him since mid-April, today is only the third time I have taken him for a walk in the stroller. My son & his wife live on a street that is a very steep hill; it's part of the reason (or excuse) I have had for not taking him on walks. Today I ventured out again, and between the heat of the day and this hill, we didn't go very far. I have decided thatI'm going to take him to a nearby park where I can walk without the hill. Just thestruggle I had coming up the hill was both depressing and motivating at the sametime. Rather than set myself up for failure, it seems to make sense to go for walkswhere I'm not out of breath in less than five minutes. I'm telling myself that at least I did something, right?Thanks,

Margaret

[Guest guest]

Thank you Sandy, After reading this yesterday I had to go to the grocery store and parked at the end of the lot so I could get at least a mini-walk in. Small as it was, it made me feel better and I am appreciating each tiny step.MargaretTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Mon, June

20, 2011 9:02:14 PMSubject: Re: It's Something At Least

Margaret, you did a good job. And going to the park sounds like a great idea. I live in Florida and it has been near 100 here. Too hot for walking out side except after dark or early in the morning maybe. Then with all the fires around there has been too much smoke. I have found that the Mall is a good place to walk and when I go grocery shopping, I go up and down all the aisles even if I don't need to. Sometimes we just have to get creative. Keep up the good work. Sandy

[Guest guest]

Margaret, Great.  Ironically my doctor wants me to limit my exercise before lab work until liver levels are normal.  It could be a factor but most likely is the medication I am on.  Keep on keeping on. Sandy

 

Thank you Sandy, After reading this yesterday I had to go to the grocery store and parked at the end of the lot so I could get at least a mini-walk in.  Small as it was, it made me feel better and I am appreciating each tiny step.

Margaret

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Sent: Mon, June

20, 2011 9:02:14 PMSubject: Re: It's Something At Least

 

Margaret, you did a good job.  And going to the park sounds like a great idea.  I live in Florida and it has been near 100 here.  Too hot for walking out side except after dark or early in the morning maybe.  Then with all the fires around there has been too much smoke. I have found that the Mall is a good place to walk and when I go grocery shopping, I go up and down all the aisles even if I don't need to. Sometimes we just have to get creative. Keep up the good work.  Sandy

[Guest guest]

I think it's REALLY key with IE or any lifestyle change to really appreciate and focus on those small positive changes. cheering yourself on leads to more positive changes, in my experience, whereas any focus on all the things i am NOT doing only leads to feeling discouraged and being less likely to make changes.

one more reason that criticizing our bodies is counter productive!best,abby

 

Thank you Sandy, After reading this yesterday I had to go to the grocery store and parked at the end of the lot so I could get at least a mini-walk in.  Small as it was, it made me feel better and I am appreciating each tiny step.

Margaret

[Guest guest]

This really hit home with me. Being positive about small changes is so important. As I wrote before, I went through a lot of treament for breast cancer 2.5 years ago at age 34. Afterwards, I was seeing a nutritionist who specialized in breast cancer nutrition. Because of my type of breast cancer and a recent study, she recommended that I eat a very, very low fat diet. After the appointment, I tried really hard. I ate an extremely healthy diet with tons of vegetables, some fruits, and high omega-3 fish like wild salmon. I read up on all of the latest nutrition studies as they related to cancer. I did yoga and heavy cardio and at least 4 days a week.

Well, when I went for my follow-up appointment, I was told that I was eating too much fat (from salmon and olive oil, no less) and that for my case there was no such thing as "good fats." I was to limit everything. She also said that doing heavy cardio 4 days a week was not enough. I also had to fit in weight training 3 days a week. Can I say just how deflated I became? I was working so hard and it was not enough. The self-judgment and frustration were too much and I actually stopped exercising all-together and stopped worrying about my fat intake. It was like, "what's the point?" since I didn't feel I could live up to her standards.

So now, I live up to my standards and am comfortable with what I'm doing. I am still not back to exercising because that follow-up was so damaging for my self-esteem. But I will get there when my body is ready.

Mimi

Subject: Re: It's Something At LeastTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 11:29 AM

I think it's REALLY key with IE or any lifestyle change to really appreciate and focus on those small positive changes. cheering yourself on leads to more positive changes, in my experience, whereas any focus on all the things i am NOT doing only leads to feeling discouraged and being less likely to make changes.

one more reason that criticizing our bodies is counter productive!

best,

abby

[Guest guest]

Incigul, Wow.  That was like telling a little kid that she can never have any treats and must spend most of her time in boring exercise. I hope when you get back to exercising it will be something you enjoy and is fun, playful even, and brings you much joy and laughter.  I have a grandson who helps me with all that. I love playing with him.  The other day he was hiding outside the bathroom door and yelled " boo " when I came out.  I let out this massive scream, startled but then laughed and laughed.  Then I told him it was " pay back time " Last month 3 almost 70 year old and a 45 year old played in his 12' pool, about 3' deep at best.  We all had a blast, squirting each other and splashing, and laughing.  So I hope you find something fun too.  By the way laughter is a great healer if you don't know that already, or maybe you have forgotten it after all you have been through.  Keep in touch. Sandy

 

This really hit home with me. Being positive about small changes is so important. As I wrote before, I went through a lot of treament for breast cancer 2.5 years ago at age 34. Afterwards, I was seeing a nutritionist who specialized in breast cancer nutrition. Because of my type of breast cancer and a recent study, she recommended that I eat a very, very low fat diet. After the appointment, I tried really hard. I ate an extremely healthy diet with tons of vegetables, some fruits, and high omega-3 fish like wild salmon. I read up on all of the latest nutrition studies as they related to cancer. I did yoga and heavy cardio and at least 4 days a week.

 

Well, when I went for my follow-up appointment, I was told that I was eating too much fat (from salmon and olive oil, no less) and that for my case there was no such thing as " good fats. " I was to limit everything. She also said that doing heavy cardio 4 days a week was not enough. I also had to fit in weight training 3 days a week. Can I say just how deflated I became? I was working so hard and it was not enough. The self-judgment and frustration were too much and I actually stopped exercising all-together and stopped worrying about my fat intake. It was like, " what's the point? " since I didn't feel I could live up to her standards.

 

So now, I live up to my standards and am comfortable with what I'm doing. I am still not back to exercising because that follow-up was so damaging for my self-esteem. But I will get there when my body is ready.

 

Mimi

Subject: Re: It's Something At Least

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 11:29 AM

 

I think it's REALLY key with IE or any lifestyle change to really appreciate and focus on those small positive changes. cheering yourself on leads to more positive changes, in my experience, whereas any focus on all the things i am NOT doing only leads to feeling discouraged and being less likely to make changes.

one more reason that criticizing our bodies is counter productive!

best,

abby

 

[Guest guest]

Hi, Incigul. I understand how you must feel, and I commend you for making the best decisions for yourself. As for being told you should stay away from something like salmon or olive oil, it would probably be good to focus on the delicious foods you are encouraged to eat. I am finding that by enjoying the foods I am eating, it enhances my enjoyment of life. I no longer mourn over what I am not eating. Best to you. Tai

This really hit home with me. Being positive about small changes is so important. As I wrote before, I went through a lot of treament for breast cancer 2.5 years ago at age 34. Afterwards, I was seeing a nutritionist who specialized in breast cancer nutrition. Because of my type of breast cancer and a recent study, she recommended that I eat a very, very low fat diet. After the appointment, I tried really hard. I ate an extremely healthy diet with tons of vegetables, some fruits, and high omega-3 fish like wild salmon. I read up on all of the latest nutrition studies as they related to cancer. I did yoga and heavy cardio and at least 4 days a week.

Well, when I went for my follow-up appointment, I was told that I was eating too much fat (from salmon and olive oil, no less) and that for my case there was no such thing as "good fats." I was to limit everything. She also said that doing heavy cardio 4 days a week was not enough. I also had to fit in weight training 3 days a week. Can I say just how deflated I became? I was working so hard and it was not enough. The self-judgment and frustration were too much and I actually stopped exercising all-together and stopped worrying about my fat intake. It was like, "what's the point?" since I didn't feel I could live up to her standards.

So now, I live up to my standards and am comfortable with what I'm doing. I am still not back to exercising because that follow-up was so damaging for my self-esteem. But I will get there when my body is ready.

Mimi

Subject: Re: It's Something At Least

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 11:29 AM

I think it's REALLY key with IE or any lifestyle change to really appreciate and focus on those small positive changes. cheering yourself on leads to more positive changes, in my experience, whereas any focus on all the things i am NOT doing only leads to feeling discouraged and being less likely to make changes.

one more reason that criticizing our bodies is counter productive!

best,

abby

[Guest guest]

Mimi,

Wow, that's HORRIBLE!

I am so sorry that you got that feedback! And zero recognition for all the hard work you did... wow. So many kinds of wrong!

One reason I've never wanted to go to a nutritionist is that I was scared I wouldn't agree with her advice. There are so many ways to eat, all touted as the best. I finally spoke to someone this spring about eating a more " traditional " diet (which I had read up on extensively and was interested in), but I told her several times beforehand that I am very sensitive to being triggered by dieting and thoughts of restriction.

She did pretty well at making suggestions without criticizing my current way of eating, and I resolved to try to incorporate one suggestion per week. Probably as a result of several factors, including weight loss (a no-no during pregnancy) plus it just being more work at a time when I'm just not interested in food, I backtracked a bit... but I think I'm progressing again now without even thinking about it, in some small ways. Maybe when the school year is over (just a few more days!) I will be more motivated again.

Anyway, I can't speak to breast cancer research per se, but in general, there is SO MUCH nutritional research out there, most of it conflicting! Try to research what makes YOUR BODY feel good... and do that. Hopefully joyful movement will someday (soon) regain its appeal. Don't let her poor conduct take that away from you!

(Fwiw, all sorts of research say low fat isn't tenable over the long term... goes against long term survival instincts, evolutionarily speaking.) grrrrr to that nutritionist!abby 

On Jun 

[Guest guest]

Abby,

Thanks. I agree that much of nutrition research is contradictory and subject to change. That's why I try to eat a wholesome diet. Following IE principles, I am not restricting any foods, however I understand that highly processed foods have ingredients that are not for my highest good, or that of the planet. Those are important factors for me. Also, I totally agree that a very low fat diet is neither sustainable or good in the long run. My body feels good eating undoctored foods, even if they have (gasp) saturated fat: grass fed beef, butter from grass fed cows, etc. I feel so natural following this way of eating rather than eating the low fat packaged foods my nutritionist recommended. And yes, joyful movement is something I know I will get back to soon. Thanks for your input.

Mimi

Subject: Re: It's Something At LeastTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Thursday, June 23, 2011, 9:47 AM

Mimi,

Wow, that's HORRIBLE!

I am so sorry that you got that feedback! And zero recognition for all the hard work you did... wow. So many kinds of wrong!

One reason I've never wanted to go to a nutritionist is that I was scared I wouldn't agree with her advice. There are so many ways to eat, all touted as the best. I finally spoke to someone this spring about eating a more "traditional" diet (which I had read up on extensively and was interested in), but I told her several times beforehand that I am very sensitive to being triggered by dieting and thoughts of restriction.

She did pretty well at making suggestions without criticizing my current way of eating, and I resolved to try to incorporate one suggestion per week. Probably as a result of several factors, including weight loss (a no-no during pregnancy) plus it just being more work at a time when I'm just not interested in food, I backtracked a bit... but I think I'm progressing again now without even thinking about it, in some small ways. Maybe when the school year is over (just a few more days!) I will be more motivated again.

Anyway, I can't speak to breast cancer research per se, but in general, there is SO MUCH nutritional research out there, most of it conflicting! Try to research what makes YOUR BODY feel good... and do that. Hopefully joyful movement will someday (soon) regain its appeal. Don't let her poor conduct take that away from you!

(Fwiw, all sorts of research say low fat isn't tenable over the long term... goes against long term survival instincts, evolutionarily speaking.)

grrrrr to that nutritionist!

abby

On Jun

[Guest guest]

Rain,Good for you for holding out for the cake you really wanted! And it's OKAY that you ate for an emotional craving... and it's AWESOME that you waited until you were hungry to start, and that you stopped when you were full! 

hopefully you were able to savor every mouthful! eating consciously is a great way to take away the magical powers of food... but maybe you will always enjoy cake! that's fine.

do you like to bake? maybe you can make your own? then you could make it to your exact specifications.i've thought about this because while i love the whole grain-ness of kashi cookies, they are becoming too sweet for me. but tinkering with recipes could be a lot of work (and it will be hot to have the oven on)... but it would also be so satisfying to make them EXACTLY how i want them.

since i know you like Real Food... Nourishing Traditions is a cookbook based on the same philosophy, and has some recipes for " real food " desserts.best,

abby

 

Abby, I also sometimes eat processed food - not often though, as I mentioned earlier, the real food is just tastier. But the thing I crave, and eat, is cake. In fact, I had cake and ice cream for dinner tonight. I've been craving cake and ice cream for a couple days, and I would have eaten it earlier if I'd been able to find the right cake.  I specifically want brightly colored, butter cream icing, birthday cake! 

I know that it's an emotional craving, and that it clearly represents something other than nourishment.  However, i do wait until I'm hungry and stop when I'm full. I'm hoping that I will find another way to meet whatever emotional need I think the cake is filling, because in the end, it doesn't make me feel good physically.

Rain

[Guest guest]

Rain,Good for you for holding out for the cake you really wanted! And it's OKAY that you ate for an emotional craving... and it's AWESOME that you waited until you were hungry to start, and that you stopped when you were full! 

hopefully you were able to savor every mouthful! eating consciously is a great way to take away the magical powers of food... but maybe you will always enjoy cake! that's fine.

do you like to bake? maybe you can make your own? then you could make it to your exact specifications.i've thought about this because while i love the whole grain-ness of kashi cookies, they are becoming too sweet for me. but tinkering with recipes could be a lot of work (and it will be hot to have the oven on)... but it would also be so satisfying to make them EXACTLY how i want them.

since i know you like Real Food... Nourishing Traditions is a cookbook based on the same philosophy, and has some recipes for " real food " desserts.best,

abby

 

Abby, I also sometimes eat processed food - not often though, as I mentioned earlier, the real food is just tastier. But the thing I crave, and eat, is cake. In fact, I had cake and ice cream for dinner tonight. I've been craving cake and ice cream for a couple days, and I would have eaten it earlier if I'd been able to find the right cake.  I specifically want brightly colored, butter cream icing, birthday cake! 

I know that it's an emotional craving, and that it clearly represents something other than nourishment.  However, i do wait until I'm hungry and stop when I'm full. I'm hoping that I will find another way to meet whatever emotional need I think the cake is filling, because in the end, it doesn't make me feel good physically.

Rain

[Guest guest]

Thanks Abby, I do like to cook, but this cake has to be the white angelic, perfectly smooth bakery cake, otherwise it's not the same. And it has to be prettily decorated. Taste is only secondary. Cake again this morning. The good part is that if I go to a party where cake is a main part of the celebration, I won't have to spend the entire party figuring out how I can get six pieces of it. Because if I want it, I know I can have it any time. Soon I'll get tired of not feeling good after I eat, and will want something else. I'm hoping it's really soon, but I will eat the cake and ice cream as long as I want it. Rain

From: Abigail WolfsonSent: Monday, June 27, 2011 6:01 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: It's Something At Least

Rain,

Good for you for holding out for the cake you really wanted!

And it's OKAY that you ate for an emotional craving... and it's AWESOME that you waited until you were hungry to start, and that you stopped when you were full!

hopefully you were able to savor every mouthful!

eating consciously is a great way to take away the magical powers of food... but maybe you will always enjoy cake! that's fine.

do you like to bake? maybe you can make your own? then you could make it to your exact specifications.

i've thought about this because while i love the whole grain-ness of kashi cookies, they are becoming too sweet for me. but tinkering with recipes could be a lot of work (and it will be hot to have the oven on)... but it would also be so satisfying to make them EXACTLY how i want them.

since i know you like Real Food... Nourishing Traditions is a cookbook based on the same philosophy, and has some recipes for "real food" desserts.

best,

abby

Abby, I also sometimes eat processed food - not often though, as I mentioned earlier, the real food is just tastier. But the thing I crave, and eat, is cake. In fact, I had cake and ice cream for dinner tonight. I've been craving cake and ice cream for a couple days, and I would have eaten it earlier if I'd been able to find the right cake. I specifically want brightly colored, butter cream icing, birthday cake! I know that it's an emotional craving, and that it clearly represents something other than nourishment. However, i do wait until I'm hungry and stop when I'm full. I'm hoping that I will find another way to meet whatever emotional need I think the cake is filling, because in the end, it doesn't make me feel good physically. Rain

[Guest guest]

Thanks Abby, I do like to cook, but this cake has to be the white angelic, perfectly smooth bakery cake, otherwise it's not the same. And it has to be prettily decorated. Taste is only secondary. Cake again this morning. The good part is that if I go to a party where cake is a main part of the celebration, I won't have to spend the entire party figuring out how I can get six pieces of it. Because if I want it, I know I can have it any time. Soon I'll get tired of not feeling good after I eat, and will want something else. I'm hoping it's really soon, but I will eat the cake and ice cream as long as I want it. Rain

From: Abigail WolfsonSent: Monday, June 27, 2011 6:01 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: It's Something At Least

Rain,

Good for you for holding out for the cake you really wanted!

And it's OKAY that you ate for an emotional craving... and it's AWESOME that you waited until you were hungry to start, and that you stopped when you were full!

hopefully you were able to savor every mouthful!

eating consciously is a great way to take away the magical powers of food... but maybe you will always enjoy cake! that's fine.

do you like to bake? maybe you can make your own? then you could make it to your exact specifications.

i've thought about this because while i love the whole grain-ness of kashi cookies, they are becoming too sweet for me. but tinkering with recipes could be a lot of work (and it will be hot to have the oven on)... but it would also be so satisfying to make them EXACTLY how i want them.

since i know you like Real Food... Nourishing Traditions is a cookbook based on the same philosophy, and has some recipes for "real food" desserts.

best,

abby

Abby, I also sometimes eat processed food - not often though, as I mentioned earlier, the real food is just tastier. But the thing I crave, and eat, is cake. In fact, I had cake and ice cream for dinner tonight. I've been craving cake and ice cream for a couple days, and I would have eaten it earlier if I'd been able to find the right cake. I specifically want brightly colored, butter cream icing, birthday cake! I know that it's an emotional craving, and that it clearly represents something other than nourishment. However, i do wait until I'm hungry and stop when I'm full. I'm hoping that I will find another way to meet whatever emotional need I think the cake is filling, because in the end, it doesn't make me feel good physically. Rain

[Guest guest]

Thanks Abby, I do like to cook, but this cake has to be the white angelic, perfectly smooth bakery cake, otherwise it's not the same. And it has to be prettily decorated. Taste is only secondary. Cake again this morning. The good part is that if I go to a party where cake is a main part of the celebration, I won't have to spend the entire party figuring out how I can get six pieces of it. Because if I want it, I know I can have it any time. Soon I'll get tired of not feeling good after I eat, and will want something else. I'm hoping it's really soon, but I will eat the cake and ice cream as long as I want it. Rain

From: Abigail WolfsonSent: Monday, June 27, 2011 6:01 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: It's Something At Least

Rain,

Good for you for holding out for the cake you really wanted!

And it's OKAY that you ate for an emotional craving... and it's AWESOME that you waited until you were hungry to start, and that you stopped when you were full!

hopefully you were able to savor every mouthful!

eating consciously is a great way to take away the magical powers of food... but maybe you will always enjoy cake! that's fine.

do you like to bake? maybe you can make your own? then you could make it to your exact specifications.

i've thought about this because while i love the whole grain-ness of kashi cookies, they are becoming too sweet for me. but tinkering with recipes could be a lot of work (and it will be hot to have the oven on)... but it would also be so satisfying to make them EXACTLY how i want them.

since i know you like Real Food... Nourishing Traditions is a cookbook based on the same philosophy, and has some recipes for "real food" desserts.

best,

abby

Abby, I also sometimes eat processed food - not often though, as I mentioned earlier, the real food is just tastier. But the thing I crave, and eat, is cake. In fact, I had cake and ice cream for dinner tonight. I've been craving cake and ice cream for a couple days, and I would have eaten it earlier if I'd been able to find the right cake. I specifically want brightly colored, butter cream icing, birthday cake! I know that it's an emotional craving, and that it clearly represents something other than nourishment. However, i do wait until I'm hungry and stop when I'm full. I'm hoping that I will find another way to meet whatever emotional need I think the cake is filling, because in the end, it doesn't make me feel good physically. Rain

[Guest guest]

Rain,Great work! I know it sounds crazy, but yes, it's part of the process. Soon enough your brain will KNOW it can have cake whenever it wants. and then it will lose its magical appeal, and you won't want it every day anymore!

ps this is not the same of getting sick of it. it may (hopefully) lose its magic before then. best,abby

 

Thanks Abby,  I do like to cook, but this cake has to be the white angelic, perfectly smooth bakery cake, otherwise it's not the same. And it has to be prettily decorated. Taste is only secondary.

Cake again this morning.  The good part is that if I go to a party where cake is a main part of the celebration, I won't have to spend the entire party figuring out how I can get six pieces of it. Because if I want it, I know I can have it any time.

Soon I'll get tired of not feeling good after I eat, and will want something else. I'm hoping it's really soon, but I will eat the cake and ice cream as long as I want it. Rain

From: Abigail WolfsonSent: Monday, June 27, 2011 6:01 AM

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Subject: Re: It's Something At Least

 

Rain,

Good for you for holding out for the cake you really wanted! 

And it's OKAY that you ate for an emotional craving... and it's AWESOME that you waited until you were hungry to start, and that you stopped when you were full! 

hopefully you were able to savor every mouthful! 

eating consciously is a great way to take away the magical powers of food... but maybe you will always enjoy cake! that's fine.

do you like to bake? maybe you can make your own? then you could make it to your exact specifications.

i've thought about this because while i love the whole grain-ness of kashi cookies, they are becoming too sweet for me. but tinkering with recipes could be a lot of work (and it will be hot to have the oven on)... but it would also be so satisfying to make them EXACTLY how i want them.

since i know you like Real Food... Nourishing Traditions is a cookbook based on the same philosophy, and has some recipes for " real food " desserts.

best,

abby

 

Abby, I also sometimes eat processed food - not often though, as I mentioned earlier, the real food is just tastier. But the thing I crave, and eat, is cake. In fact, I had cake and ice cream for dinner tonight. I've been craving cake and ice cream for a couple days, and I would have eaten it earlier if I'd been able to find the right cake.  I specifically want brightly colored, butter cream icing, birthday cake! 

I know that it's an emotional craving, and that it clearly represents something other than nourishment.  However, i do wait until I'm hungry and stop when I'm full. I'm hoping that I will find another way to meet whatever emotional need I think the cake is filling, because in the end, it doesn't make me feel good physically.

Rain

[Guest guest]

Rain,Great work! I know it sounds crazy, but yes, it's part of the process. Soon enough your brain will KNOW it can have cake whenever it wants. and then it will lose its magical appeal, and you won't want it every day anymore!

ps this is not the same of getting sick of it. it may (hopefully) lose its magic before then. best,abby

 

Thanks Abby,  I do like to cook, but this cake has to be the white angelic, perfectly smooth bakery cake, otherwise it's not the same. And it has to be prettily decorated. Taste is only secondary.

Cake again this morning.  The good part is that if I go to a party where cake is a main part of the celebration, I won't have to spend the entire party figuring out how I can get six pieces of it. Because if I want it, I know I can have it any time.

Soon I'll get tired of not feeling good after I eat, and will want something else. I'm hoping it's really soon, but I will eat the cake and ice cream as long as I want it. Rain

From: Abigail WolfsonSent: Monday, June 27, 2011 6:01 AM

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Subject: Re: It's Something At Least

 

Rain,

Good for you for holding out for the cake you really wanted! 

And it's OKAY that you ate for an emotional craving... and it's AWESOME that you waited until you were hungry to start, and that you stopped when you were full! 

hopefully you were able to savor every mouthful! 

eating consciously is a great way to take away the magical powers of food... but maybe you will always enjoy cake! that's fine.

do you like to bake? maybe you can make your own? then you could make it to your exact specifications.

i've thought about this because while i love the whole grain-ness of kashi cookies, they are becoming too sweet for me. but tinkering with recipes could be a lot of work (and it will be hot to have the oven on)... but it would also be so satisfying to make them EXACTLY how i want them.

since i know you like Real Food... Nourishing Traditions is a cookbook based on the same philosophy, and has some recipes for " real food " desserts.

best,

abby

 

Abby, I also sometimes eat processed food - not often though, as I mentioned earlier, the real food is just tastier. But the thing I crave, and eat, is cake. In fact, I had cake and ice cream for dinner tonight. I've been craving cake and ice cream for a couple days, and I would have eaten it earlier if I'd been able to find the right cake.  I specifically want brightly colored, butter cream icing, birthday cake! 

I know that it's an emotional craving, and that it clearly represents something other than nourishment.  However, i do wait until I'm hungry and stop when I'm full. I'm hoping that I will find another way to meet whatever emotional need I think the cake is filling, because in the end, it doesn't make me feel good physically.

Rain

[Guest guest]

Speaking about feeling good after you eat, I have been eating nothing but oatmeal and fruit for two days. OK, last night I had some beans and salsa. This morning I had oatmeal and fresh pineapple. Because of my digestive system I am afraid to eat meat or animal products right now. I'm not saying I will not eat those things in the future, I'm working on it, but when you have a systemic problem, somehow the allure of foods that may hurt you becomes less attractive. I have known diabetics that cannot/will not control themselves. I know it's hard, maybe impossible for some (it was for me, so I do understand), but food does lose its appeal when you know certain ingredients will make you sick. As I look back on the taste of food, yes, curry chicken is a definite allure with great appeal. But other things that I used to think

were so wonderful just have lose their extreme attractiveness to me. And I might start looking recipes and products for cake and things like that, including pizza and hot dogs with no animal products. They're there, it's just that I was never at this point before, and may go back to eating some animal products soon, but we shall see. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 12:15 PMSubject: Re: It's Something

At Least

Rain,Great work! I know it sounds crazy, but yes, it's part of the process. Soon enough your brain will KNOW it can have cake whenever it wants. and then it will lose its magical appeal, and you won't want it every day anymore!

ps this is not the same of getting sick of it. it may (hopefully) lose its magic before then. best,abby

Thanks Abby, I do like to cook, but this cake has to be the white angelic, perfectly smooth bakery cake, otherwise it's not the same. And it has to be prettily decorated. Taste is only secondary.

Cake again this morning. The good part is that if I go to a party where cake is a main part of the celebration, I won't have to spend the entire party figuring out how I can get six pieces of it. Because if I want it, I know I can have it any time.

Soon I'll get tired of not feeling good after I eat, and will want something else. I'm hoping it's really soon, but I will eat the cake and ice cream as long as I want it. Rain

From: Abigail WolfsonSent: Monday, June 27, 2011 6:01 AM

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Subject: Re: It's Something At Least

Rain,

Good for you for holding out for the cake you really wanted!

And it's OKAY that you ate for an emotional craving... and it's AWESOME that you waited until you were hungry to start, and that you stopped when you were full!

hopefully you were able to savor every mouthful!

eating consciously is a great way to take away the magical powers of food... but maybe you will always enjoy cake! that's fine.

do you like to bake? maybe you can make your own? then you could make it to your exact specifications.

i've thought about this because while i love the whole grain-ness of kashi cookies, they are becoming too sweet for me. but tinkering with recipes could be a lot of work (and it will be hot to have the oven on)... but it would also be so satisfying to make them EXACTLY how i want them.

since i know you like Real Food... Nourishing Traditions is a cookbook based on the same philosophy, and has some recipes for "real food" desserts.

best,

abby

Abby, I also sometimes eat processed food - not often though, as I mentioned earlier, the real food is just tastier. But the thing I crave, and eat, is cake. In fact, I had cake and ice cream for dinner tonight. I've been craving cake and ice cream for a couple days, and I would have eaten it earlier if I'd been able to find the right cake. I specifically want brightly colored, butter cream icing, birthday cake!

I know that it's an emotional craving, and that it clearly represents something other than nourishment. However, i do wait until I'm hungry and stop when I'm full. I'm hoping that I will find another way to meet whatever emotional need I think the cake is filling, because in the end, it doesn't make me feel good physically.

Rain

[Guest guest]

Speaking about feeling good after you eat, I have been eating nothing but oatmeal and fruit for two days. OK, last night I had some beans and salsa. This morning I had oatmeal and fresh pineapple. Because of my digestive system I am afraid to eat meat or animal products right now. I'm not saying I will not eat those things in the future, I'm working on it, but when you have a systemic problem, somehow the allure of foods that may hurt you becomes less attractive. I have known diabetics that cannot/will not control themselves. I know it's hard, maybe impossible for some (it was for me, so I do understand), but food does lose its appeal when you know certain ingredients will make you sick. As I look back on the taste of food, yes, curry chicken is a definite allure with great appeal. But other things that I used to think

were so wonderful just have lose their extreme attractiveness to me. And I might start looking recipes and products for cake and things like that, including pizza and hot dogs with no animal products. They're there, it's just that I was never at this point before, and may go back to eating some animal products soon, but we shall see. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 12:15 PMSubject: Re: It's Something

At Least

Rain,Great work! I know it sounds crazy, but yes, it's part of the process. Soon enough your brain will KNOW it can have cake whenever it wants. and then it will lose its magical appeal, and you won't want it every day anymore!

ps this is not the same of getting sick of it. it may (hopefully) lose its magic before then. best,abby

Thanks Abby, I do like to cook, but this cake has to be the white angelic, perfectly smooth bakery cake, otherwise it's not the same. And it has to be prettily decorated. Taste is only secondary.

Cake again this morning. The good part is that if I go to a party where cake is a main part of the celebration, I won't have to spend the entire party figuring out how I can get six pieces of it. Because if I want it, I know I can have it any time.

Soon I'll get tired of not feeling good after I eat, and will want something else. I'm hoping it's really soon, but I will eat the cake and ice cream as long as I want it. Rain

From: Abigail WolfsonSent: Monday, June 27, 2011 6:01 AM

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Subject: Re: It's Something At Least

Rain,

Good for you for holding out for the cake you really wanted!

And it's OKAY that you ate for an emotional craving... and it's AWESOME that you waited until you were hungry to start, and that you stopped when you were full!

hopefully you were able to savor every mouthful!

eating consciously is a great way to take away the magical powers of food... but maybe you will always enjoy cake! that's fine.

do you like to bake? maybe you can make your own? then you could make it to your exact specifications.

i've thought about this because while i love the whole grain-ness of kashi cookies, they are becoming too sweet for me. but tinkering with recipes could be a lot of work (and it will be hot to have the oven on)... but it would also be so satisfying to make them EXACTLY how i want them.

since i know you like Real Food... Nourishing Traditions is a cookbook based on the same philosophy, and has some recipes for "real food" desserts.

best,

abby

Abby, I also sometimes eat processed food - not often though, as I mentioned earlier, the real food is just tastier. But the thing I crave, and eat, is cake. In fact, I had cake and ice cream for dinner tonight. I've been craving cake and ice cream for a couple days, and I would have eaten it earlier if I'd been able to find the right cake. I specifically want brightly colored, butter cream icing, birthday cake!

I know that it's an emotional craving, and that it clearly represents something other than nourishment. However, i do wait until I'm hungry and stop when I'm full. I'm hoping that I will find another way to meet whatever emotional need I think the cake is filling, because in the end, it doesn't make me feel good physically.

Rain

[Guest guest]

Now, Rain, when you said butter icing, my taste buds were up! LOL. gotta think about this now. And congrats for having it for dinner, good going girl, and I mean that. I'm toying with the idea of cake and fruit one of these days. It may happen soon, depending on my craving for it, LOL! TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 11:33 PMSubject: RE: It's Something At Least

Abby, I also sometimes eat processed food - not often though, as I mentioned earlier, the real food is just tastier. But the thing I crave, and eat, is cake. In fact, I had cake and ice cream for dinner tonight. I've been craving cake and ice cream for a couple days, and I would have eaten it earlier if I'd been able to find the right cake. I specifically want brightly colored, butter cream icing, birthday cake! I know that it's an emotional craving, and that it clearly represents something other than nourishment. However, i do wait until I'm hungry and stop when I'm full. I'm hoping that I will find another way to meet whatever emotional need I think the cake is filling, because in the end, it doesn't make me feel good physically. Rain

From: Abigail WolfsonSent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 4:12 PMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: It's Something At Least

Mimi,

I also eat grass fed beef, and (plenty of) saturated fat, including whole milk and butter. Like you, I try to avoid consuming (large quantities of) processed foods... but I also eat them whenever I crave them. Luckily, eating plenty of fat and protein seems to minimize (but not eliminate) the desire for these foods.

This way of eating is in tune with some, but not most, recommended ways of eating... but it seems to work the best for me.

It's kind of crazy to me that most folks think this way of eating is dead wrong... except for those who think it's the ONLY acceptable way to eat. I guess all those "experts" will never be in agreement. It's not easy to go against the mainstream nutritional advice, for me, but it's getting a little easier.

Best,Abby

[Guest guest]

Now, Rain, when you said butter icing, my taste buds were up! LOL. gotta think about this now. And congrats for having it for dinner, good going girl, and I mean that. I'm toying with the idea of cake and fruit one of these days. It may happen soon, depending on my craving for it, LOL! TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 11:33 PMSubject: RE: It's Something At Least

Abby, I also sometimes eat processed food - not often though, as I mentioned earlier, the real food is just tastier. But the thing I crave, and eat, is cake. In fact, I had cake and ice cream for dinner tonight. I've been craving cake and ice cream for a couple days, and I would have eaten it earlier if I'd been able to find the right cake. I specifically want brightly colored, butter cream icing, birthday cake! I know that it's an emotional craving, and that it clearly represents something other than nourishment. However, i do wait until I'm hungry and stop when I'm full. I'm hoping that I will find another way to meet whatever emotional need I think the cake is filling, because in the end, it doesn't make me feel good physically. Rain

From: Abigail WolfsonSent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 4:12 PMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: It's Something At Least

Mimi,

I also eat grass fed beef, and (plenty of) saturated fat, including whole milk and butter. Like you, I try to avoid consuming (large quantities of) processed foods... but I also eat them whenever I crave them. Luckily, eating plenty of fat and protein seems to minimize (but not eliminate) the desire for these foods.

This way of eating is in tune with some, but not most, recommended ways of eating... but it seems to work the best for me.

It's kind of crazy to me that most folks think this way of eating is dead wrong... except for those who think it's the ONLY acceptable way to eat. I guess all those "experts" will never be in agreement. It's not easy to go against the mainstream nutritional advice, for me, but it's getting a little easier.

Best,Abby