Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Hi, . I can appreciate what you said. I, too, feel free from fear of food, because after some time of experimenting and trying out IE ways, I no longer wish to binge. Likely I WILL binge upon occasion, but it's not that constant thing with me now. In fact, I was walking the supermarket aisles the other day and came across my old nemesis, the pretzel and chips aisle. And although I remembered those days of buying gazillions of bags of pretzels, thinking they were better for me than chips, I no longer feel the need or compulsion to go and get them. I am so happy about that! I do really feel that when I am angry or hurt, I no longer need to stuff myself with food to make myself feel better. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:17 PMSubject: OA and freedom! It's neat to hear the sharing from Becky and Tai and others. :)I thought about OA over the past few days, since it came up in discussion. Honestly, it feels odd to think of myself as a compulsive overeater these days. Every day I get better and better...not wanting dessert just because it's there, not needing to stuff myself every day.Last week I was eating in a school cafeteria, and way overate. And my jeans feel a little tight. But...I'm right back in my plan...took a nice walk yesterday, had some ice cream today, but nourishing myself and not worrying. It feels SO GOOD to be liberated from my negative mindset about food. SO GOOD.So...should I try OA? Nope. It's not necessary. Thank the Universe I'm daily freed from the compulsive eating habits of my past...and even when they creep up I can view them with compassion, care, kindness, etc.In other words, I"M FAR from perfect. I DO eat compulsively at times. But, then again, so do most friends I know. It's normal to overeat on occasion...and then to go back to normal eating patterns. Such a great feeling.Hugs and blessings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Hi, . I can appreciate what you said. I, too, feel free from fear of food, because after some time of experimenting and trying out IE ways, I no longer wish to binge. Likely I WILL binge upon occasion, but it's not that constant thing with me now. In fact, I was walking the supermarket aisles the other day and came across my old nemesis, the pretzel and chips aisle. And although I remembered those days of buying gazillions of bags of pretzels, thinking they were better for me than chips, I no longer feel the need or compulsion to go and get them. I am so happy about that! I do really feel that when I am angry or hurt, I no longer need to stuff myself with food to make myself feel better. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:17 PMSubject: OA and freedom! It's neat to hear the sharing from Becky and Tai and others. :)I thought about OA over the past few days, since it came up in discussion. Honestly, it feels odd to think of myself as a compulsive overeater these days. Every day I get better and better...not wanting dessert just because it's there, not needing to stuff myself every day.Last week I was eating in a school cafeteria, and way overate. And my jeans feel a little tight. But...I'm right back in my plan...took a nice walk yesterday, had some ice cream today, but nourishing myself and not worrying. It feels SO GOOD to be liberated from my negative mindset about food. SO GOOD.So...should I try OA? Nope. It's not necessary. Thank the Universe I'm daily freed from the compulsive eating habits of my past...and even when they creep up I can view them with compassion, care, kindness, etc.In other words, I"M FAR from perfect. I DO eat compulsively at times. But, then again, so do most friends I know. It's normal to overeat on occasion...and then to go back to normal eating patterns. Such a great feeling.Hugs and blessings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Hi, . I can appreciate what you said. I, too, feel free from fear of food, because after some time of experimenting and trying out IE ways, I no longer wish to binge. Likely I WILL binge upon occasion, but it's not that constant thing with me now. In fact, I was walking the supermarket aisles the other day and came across my old nemesis, the pretzel and chips aisle. And although I remembered those days of buying gazillions of bags of pretzels, thinking they were better for me than chips, I no longer feel the need or compulsion to go and get them. I am so happy about that! I do really feel that when I am angry or hurt, I no longer need to stuff myself with food to make myself feel better. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:17 PMSubject: OA and freedom! It's neat to hear the sharing from Becky and Tai and others. :)I thought about OA over the past few days, since it came up in discussion. Honestly, it feels odd to think of myself as a compulsive overeater these days. Every day I get better and better...not wanting dessert just because it's there, not needing to stuff myself every day.Last week I was eating in a school cafeteria, and way overate. And my jeans feel a little tight. But...I'm right back in my plan...took a nice walk yesterday, had some ice cream today, but nourishing myself and not worrying. It feels SO GOOD to be liberated from my negative mindset about food. SO GOOD.So...should I try OA? Nope. It's not necessary. Thank the Universe I'm daily freed from the compulsive eating habits of my past...and even when they creep up I can view them with compassion, care, kindness, etc.In other words, I"M FAR from perfect. I DO eat compulsively at times. But, then again, so do most friends I know. It's normal to overeat on occasion...and then to go back to normal eating patterns. Such a great feeling.Hugs and blessings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 >> I do really feel that when I am angry or hurt, I no longer need to stuff myself with food to make myself feel better. TaiHow this sentence jumped off the page at me! Light just DAWNED, as I realized how often I have stuffed myself with food to feel better and NOT ONCE has stuffing myself ever done that for me, but the opposite instead. It always amazes me how often it takes all kinds of twists and turns to finally come upon a simple truth.Thanks! Margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 >> I do really feel that when I am angry or hurt, I no longer need to stuff myself with food to make myself feel better. TaiHow this sentence jumped off the page at me! Light just DAWNED, as I realized how often I have stuffed myself with food to feel better and NOT ONCE has stuffing myself ever done that for me, but the opposite instead. It always amazes me how often it takes all kinds of twists and turns to finally come upon a simple truth.Thanks! Margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 >> I do really feel that when I am angry or hurt, I no longer need to stuff myself with food to make myself feel better. TaiHow this sentence jumped off the page at me! Light just DAWNED, as I realized how often I have stuffed myself with food to feel better and NOT ONCE has stuffing myself ever done that for me, but the opposite instead. It always amazes me how often it takes all kinds of twists and turns to finally come upon a simple truth.Thanks! Margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Hi Tai, I just got back from the grocery store and was thinking how " good " I as doing at making healthy choices. Then I came to the cookie aisle and I started in buyingchocolate filled cookies, choc. Teddy Grahams, hot fudge, ice cream. I noticed that in my mind I was judging them as " bad " foods and myself as " weak " . I guess I have a way to go on " diet " thinking. I wish I could give myself unconditional permission to eat any food but I do not want to gain any more weight. That is what I fear will happen. Of course I often forget to eat when I am hungry, stop when I am full, and not eat for emotional reasons, listening to my body,among other things. I am celebrating my birthday, and my brother's, this weekend and plan to enjoy cake and ice cream. I am just noticing that I was still naming foods " good " and " bad " . Sandy  Hi, . I can appreciate what you said. I, too, feel free from fear of food, because after some time of experimenting and trying out IE ways, I no longer wish to binge. Likely I WILL binge upon occasion, but it's not that constant thing with me now. In fact, I was walking the supermarket aisles the other day and came across my old nemesis, the pretzel and chips aisle. And although I remembered those days of buying gazillions of bags of pretzels, thinking they were better for me than chips, I no longer feel the need or compulsion to go and get them. I am so happy about that! I do really feel that when I am angry or hurt, I no longer need to stuff myself with food to make myself feel better. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:17 PM Subject: OA and freedom!  It's neat to hear the sharing from Becky and Tai and others. :)I thought about OA over the past few days, since it came up in discussion. Honestly, it feels odd to think of myself as a compulsive overeater these days. Every day I get better and better...not wanting dessert just because it's there, not needing to stuff myself every day.Last week I was eating in a school cafeteria, and way overate. And my jeans feel a little tight. But...I'm right back in my plan...took a nice walk yesterday, had some ice cream today, but nourishing myself and not worrying. It feels SO GOOD to be liberated from my negative mindset about food. SO GOOD.So...should I try OA? Nope. It's not necessary. Thank the Universe I'm daily freed from the compulsive eating habits of my past...and even when they creep up I can view them with compassion, care, kindness, etc.In other words, I " M FAR from perfect. I DO eat compulsively at times. But, then again, so do most friends I know. It's normal to overeat on occasion...and then to go back to normal eating patterns. Such a great feeling.Hugs and blessings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Hi Tai, I just got back from the grocery store and was thinking how " good " I as doing at making healthy choices. Then I came to the cookie aisle and I started in buyingchocolate filled cookies, choc. Teddy Grahams, hot fudge, ice cream. I noticed that in my mind I was judging them as " bad " foods and myself as " weak " . I guess I have a way to go on " diet " thinking. I wish I could give myself unconditional permission to eat any food but I do not want to gain any more weight. That is what I fear will happen. Of course I often forget to eat when I am hungry, stop when I am full, and not eat for emotional reasons, listening to my body,among other things. I am celebrating my birthday, and my brother's, this weekend and plan to enjoy cake and ice cream. I am just noticing that I was still naming foods " good " and " bad " . Sandy  Hi, . I can appreciate what you said. I, too, feel free from fear of food, because after some time of experimenting and trying out IE ways, I no longer wish to binge. Likely I WILL binge upon occasion, but it's not that constant thing with me now. In fact, I was walking the supermarket aisles the other day and came across my old nemesis, the pretzel and chips aisle. And although I remembered those days of buying gazillions of bags of pretzels, thinking they were better for me than chips, I no longer feel the need or compulsion to go and get them. I am so happy about that! I do really feel that when I am angry or hurt, I no longer need to stuff myself with food to make myself feel better. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:17 PM Subject: OA and freedom!  It's neat to hear the sharing from Becky and Tai and others. :)I thought about OA over the past few days, since it came up in discussion. Honestly, it feels odd to think of myself as a compulsive overeater these days. Every day I get better and better...not wanting dessert just because it's there, not needing to stuff myself every day.Last week I was eating in a school cafeteria, and way overate. And my jeans feel a little tight. But...I'm right back in my plan...took a nice walk yesterday, had some ice cream today, but nourishing myself and not worrying. It feels SO GOOD to be liberated from my negative mindset about food. SO GOOD.So...should I try OA? Nope. It's not necessary. Thank the Universe I'm daily freed from the compulsive eating habits of my past...and even when they creep up I can view them with compassion, care, kindness, etc.In other words, I " M FAR from perfect. I DO eat compulsively at times. But, then again, so do most friends I know. It's normal to overeat on occasion...and then to go back to normal eating patterns. Such a great feeling.Hugs and blessings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Hi Tai, I just got back from the grocery store and was thinking how " good " I as doing at making healthy choices. Then I came to the cookie aisle and I started in buyingchocolate filled cookies, choc. Teddy Grahams, hot fudge, ice cream. I noticed that in my mind I was judging them as " bad " foods and myself as " weak " . I guess I have a way to go on " diet " thinking. I wish I could give myself unconditional permission to eat any food but I do not want to gain any more weight. That is what I fear will happen. Of course I often forget to eat when I am hungry, stop when I am full, and not eat for emotional reasons, listening to my body,among other things. I am celebrating my birthday, and my brother's, this weekend and plan to enjoy cake and ice cream. I am just noticing that I was still naming foods " good " and " bad " . Sandy  Hi, . I can appreciate what you said. I, too, feel free from fear of food, because after some time of experimenting and trying out IE ways, I no longer wish to binge. Likely I WILL binge upon occasion, but it's not that constant thing with me now. In fact, I was walking the supermarket aisles the other day and came across my old nemesis, the pretzel and chips aisle. And although I remembered those days of buying gazillions of bags of pretzels, thinking they were better for me than chips, I no longer feel the need or compulsion to go and get them. I am so happy about that! I do really feel that when I am angry or hurt, I no longer need to stuff myself with food to make myself feel better. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:17 PM Subject: OA and freedom!  It's neat to hear the sharing from Becky and Tai and others. :)I thought about OA over the past few days, since it came up in discussion. Honestly, it feels odd to think of myself as a compulsive overeater these days. Every day I get better and better...not wanting dessert just because it's there, not needing to stuff myself every day.Last week I was eating in a school cafeteria, and way overate. And my jeans feel a little tight. But...I'm right back in my plan...took a nice walk yesterday, had some ice cream today, but nourishing myself and not worrying. It feels SO GOOD to be liberated from my negative mindset about food. SO GOOD.So...should I try OA? Nope. It's not necessary. Thank the Universe I'm daily freed from the compulsive eating habits of my past...and even when they creep up I can view them with compassion, care, kindness, etc.In other words, I " M FAR from perfect. I DO eat compulsively at times. But, then again, so do most friends I know. It's normal to overeat on occasion...and then to go back to normal eating patterns. Such a great feeling.Hugs and blessings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Hi Sandy,I do the same thing when it comes to 'good' and 'bad' foods ... I imagine it's very common and is something we are so accustomed to it's probably something that takes a while to go away. I too am afraid to gain any more weight, and in fact want to lose about twenty pounds, so the whole concept of IE is on the one hand exactly what I want to be doing and believe is best for me and on the other, possibly 'dangerous'? At least where weight gain is concerned. Still, I believe it to be the best and healthiest approach and so here I am. Margaret To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Fri, June 24, 2011 11:08:03 AMSubject: Re: OA and freedom! Hi Tai, I just got back from the grocery store and was thinking how "good" I as doing at making healthy choices. Then I came to the cookie aisle and I started in buyingchocolate filled cookies, choc. Teddy Grahams, hot fudge, ice cream. I noticed that in my mind I was judging them as "bad" foods and myself as "weak". I guess I have a way to go on "diet" thinking. I wish I could give myself unconditional permission to eat any food but I do not want to gain any more weight. That is what I fear will happen. Of course I often forget to eat when I am hungry, stop when I am full, and not eat for emotional reasons, listening to my body,among other things. I am celebrating my birthday, and my brother's, this weekend and plan to enjoy cake and ice cream. I am just noticing that I was still naming foods "good" and "bad". Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Hi Sandy,I do the same thing when it comes to 'good' and 'bad' foods ... I imagine it's very common and is something we are so accustomed to it's probably something that takes a while to go away. I too am afraid to gain any more weight, and in fact want to lose about twenty pounds, so the whole concept of IE is on the one hand exactly what I want to be doing and believe is best for me and on the other, possibly 'dangerous'? At least where weight gain is concerned. Still, I believe it to be the best and healthiest approach and so here I am. Margaret To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Fri, June 24, 2011 11:08:03 AMSubject: Re: OA and freedom! Hi Tai, I just got back from the grocery store and was thinking how "good" I as doing at making healthy choices. Then I came to the cookie aisle and I started in buyingchocolate filled cookies, choc. Teddy Grahams, hot fudge, ice cream. I noticed that in my mind I was judging them as "bad" foods and myself as "weak". I guess I have a way to go on "diet" thinking. I wish I could give myself unconditional permission to eat any food but I do not want to gain any more weight. That is what I fear will happen. Of course I often forget to eat when I am hungry, stop when I am full, and not eat for emotional reasons, listening to my body,among other things. I am celebrating my birthday, and my brother's, this weekend and plan to enjoy cake and ice cream. I am just noticing that I was still naming foods "good" and "bad". Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Margaret - <<It always amazes me how often it takes all kinds of twists and turns to finally come upon a simple truth.>> Yup, I sure do agree, Margaret. That's one reason why I love this message board, because we learn from one another. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 11:01 AMSubject: Re: OA and freedom! >> I do really feel that when I am angry or hurt, I no longer need to stuff myself with food to make myself feel better. TaiHow this sentence jumped off the page at me! Light just DAWNED, as I realized how often I have stuffed myself with food to feel better and NOT ONCE has stuffing myself ever done that for me, but the opposite instead. It always amazes me how often it takes all kinds of twists and turns to finally come upon a simple truth.Thanks! Margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Margaret: I don't know if I am at the danger point yet since my lab work came back good. But I don't want to get to any dangerous point. Even more than that I feel miserable, although that never stopped me from eating before either. My belly has gotten so big, I can hardly sit upright comfortably. I guess I don't fully trust the process yet. Sandy  Hi Sandy,I do the same thing when it comes to 'good' and 'bad' foods ... I imagine it's very common and is something we are so accustomed to it's probably something that takes a while to go away. I too am afraid to gain any more weight, and in fact want to lose about twenty pounds, so the whole concept of IE is on the one hand exactly what I want to be doing and believe is best for me and on the other, possibly 'dangerous'? At least where weight gain is concerned. Still, I believe it to be the best and healthiest approach and so here I am.  Margaret To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Fri, June 24, 2011 11:08:03 AMSubject: Re: OA and freedom! Hi Tai, I just got back from the grocery store and was thinking how " good " I as doing at making healthy choices. Then I came to the cookie aisle and I started in buyingchocolate filled cookies, choc. Teddy Grahams, hot fudge, ice cream. I noticed that in my mind I was judging them as " bad " foods and myself as " weak " . I guess I have a way to go on " diet " thinking. I wish I could give myself unconditional permission to eat any food but I do not want to gain any more weight. That is what I fear will happen. Of course I often forget to eat when I am hungry, stop when I am full, and not eat for emotional reasons, listening to my body,among other things. I am celebrating my birthday, and my brother's, this weekend and plan to enjoy cake and ice cream. I am just noticing that I was still naming foods " good " and " bad " . Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Margaret: I don't know if I am at the danger point yet since my lab work came back good. But I don't want to get to any dangerous point. Even more than that I feel miserable, although that never stopped me from eating before either. My belly has gotten so big, I can hardly sit upright comfortably. I guess I don't fully trust the process yet. Sandy  Hi Sandy,I do the same thing when it comes to 'good' and 'bad' foods ... I imagine it's very common and is something we are so accustomed to it's probably something that takes a while to go away. I too am afraid to gain any more weight, and in fact want to lose about twenty pounds, so the whole concept of IE is on the one hand exactly what I want to be doing and believe is best for me and on the other, possibly 'dangerous'? At least where weight gain is concerned. Still, I believe it to be the best and healthiest approach and so here I am.  Margaret To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Fri, June 24, 2011 11:08:03 AMSubject: Re: OA and freedom! Hi Tai, I just got back from the grocery store and was thinking how " good " I as doing at making healthy choices. Then I came to the cookie aisle and I started in buyingchocolate filled cookies, choc. Teddy Grahams, hot fudge, ice cream. I noticed that in my mind I was judging them as " bad " foods and myself as " weak " . I guess I have a way to go on " diet " thinking. I wish I could give myself unconditional permission to eat any food but I do not want to gain any more weight. That is what I fear will happen. Of course I often forget to eat when I am hungry, stop when I am full, and not eat for emotional reasons, listening to my body,among other things. I am celebrating my birthday, and my brother's, this weekend and plan to enjoy cake and ice cream. I am just noticing that I was still naming foods " good " and " bad " . Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Sandy, if you feel better by eating in a more orderly manner, if your stomach goes down and you feel better, why not incorporate that in your thinking process? Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 2:55 PMSubject: Re: OA and freedom! Margaret: I don't know if I am at the danger point yet since my lab work came back good. But I don't want to get to any dangerous point. Even more than that I feel miserable, although that never stopped me from eating before either. My belly has gotten so big, I can hardly sit upright comfortably. I guess I don't fully trust the process yet. Sandy Hi Sandy,I do the same thing when it comes to 'good' and 'bad' foods ... I imagine it's very common and is something we are so accustomed to it's probably something that takes a while to go away. I too am afraid to gain any more weight, and in fact want to lose about twenty pounds, so the whole concept of IE is on the one hand exactly what I want to be doing and believe is best for me and on the other, possibly 'dangerous'? At least where weight gain is concerned. Still, I believe it to be the best and healthiest approach and so here I am. Margaret To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Fri, June 24, 2011 11:08:03 AMSubject: Re: OA and freedom! Hi Tai, I just got back from the grocery store and was thinking how "good" I as doing at making healthy choices. Then I came to the cookie aisle and I started in buyingchocolate filled cookies, choc. Teddy Grahams, hot fudge, ice cream. I noticed that in my mind I was judging them as "bad" foods and myself as "weak". I guess I have a way to go on "diet" thinking. I wish I could give myself unconditional permission to eat any food but I do not want to gain any more weight. That is what I fear will happen. Of course I often forget to eat when I am hungry, stop when I am full, and not eat for emotional reasons, listening to my body,among other things. I am celebrating my birthday, and my brother's, this weekend and plan to enjoy cake and ice cream. I am just noticing that I was still naming foods "good" and "bad". Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Sandy, if you feel better by eating in a more orderly manner, if your stomach goes down and you feel better, why not incorporate that in your thinking process? Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 2:55 PMSubject: Re: OA and freedom! Margaret: I don't know if I am at the danger point yet since my lab work came back good. But I don't want to get to any dangerous point. Even more than that I feel miserable, although that never stopped me from eating before either. My belly has gotten so big, I can hardly sit upright comfortably. I guess I don't fully trust the process yet. Sandy Hi Sandy,I do the same thing when it comes to 'good' and 'bad' foods ... I imagine it's very common and is something we are so accustomed to it's probably something that takes a while to go away. I too am afraid to gain any more weight, and in fact want to lose about twenty pounds, so the whole concept of IE is on the one hand exactly what I want to be doing and believe is best for me and on the other, possibly 'dangerous'? At least where weight gain is concerned. Still, I believe it to be the best and healthiest approach and so here I am. Margaret To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Fri, June 24, 2011 11:08:03 AMSubject: Re: OA and freedom! Hi Tai, I just got back from the grocery store and was thinking how "good" I as doing at making healthy choices. Then I came to the cookie aisle and I started in buyingchocolate filled cookies, choc. Teddy Grahams, hot fudge, ice cream. I noticed that in my mind I was judging them as "bad" foods and myself as "weak". I guess I have a way to go on "diet" thinking. I wish I could give myself unconditional permission to eat any food but I do not want to gain any more weight. That is what I fear will happen. Of course I often forget to eat when I am hungry, stop when I am full, and not eat for emotional reasons, listening to my body,among other things. I am celebrating my birthday, and my brother's, this weekend and plan to enjoy cake and ice cream. I am just noticing that I was still naming foods "good" and "bad". Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Tai: What do you mean by orderly manner? Sandy  Sandy, if you feel better by eating in a more orderly manner, if your stomach goes down and you feel better, why not incorporate that in your thinking process? Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 2:55 PM Subject: Re: OA and freedom!  Margaret: I don't know if I am at the danger point yet since my lab work came back good. But I don't want to get to any dangerous point. Even more than that I feel miserable, although that never stopped me from eating before either. My belly has gotten so big, I can hardly sit upright comfortably. I guess I don't fully trust the process yet. Sandy  Hi Sandy,I do the same thing when it comes to 'good' and 'bad' foods ... I imagine it's very common and is something we are so accustomed to it's probably something that takes a while to go away. I too am afraid to gain any more weight, and in fact want to lose about twenty pounds, so the whole concept of IE is on the one hand exactly what I want to be doing and believe is best for me and on the other, possibly 'dangerous'? At least where weight gain is concerned. Still, I believe it to be the best and healthiest approach and so here I am.  Margaret To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Fri, June 24, 2011 11:08:03 AM Subject: Re: OA and freedom! Hi Tai, I just got back from the grocery store and was thinking how " good " I as doing at making healthy choices. Then I came to the cookie aisle and I started in buyingchocolate filled cookies, choc. Teddy Grahams, hot fudge, ice cream. I noticed that in my mind I was judging them as " bad " foods and myself as " weak " . I guess I have a way to go on " diet " thinking. I wish I could give myself unconditional permission to eat any food but I do not want to gain any more weight. That is what I fear will happen. Of course I often forget to eat when I am hungry, stop when I am full, and not eat for emotional reasons, listening to my body,among other things. I am celebrating my birthday, and my brother's, this weekend and plan to enjoy cake and ice cream. I am just noticing that I was still naming foods " good " and " bad " . Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Hi, Sandy. You know, I'm sorry to say, that many celebrations are associated with feasts, because that is how you're talking, as if because it's your birthday or a celebratory occasion, that means you allow yourself (?) to indulge greatly in foods and behavior that you would ordinarily not do so. In actuality, you always have permission to eat what you want and as much as you want. If you're viewing chocolate filled goodies with a sense of great longing and you cannot resist those great items, then you are not putting the food in its proper place. Food is food. Some food is more delicious than others. I, too, am thinking of something -- not sure what -- maybe cake? (Dont have any in the house.) Ice cream? (Have it, but don't want it now.) Pasta? Naw... I'm not hungry enough. Pretzels? No, again, don't want it and not hungry enough. But a cookie with tea or decaf? Maybe ... that sounds good ... I MIGHT have it. Not sure. I'll let you know later. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 11:08 AMSubject: Re: OA and freedom! Hi Tai, I just got back from the grocery store and was thinking how "good" I as doing at making healthy choices. Then I came to the cookie aisle and I started in buyingchocolate filled cookies, choc. Teddy Grahams, hot fudge, ice cream. I noticed that in my mind I was judging them as "bad" foods and myself as "weak". I guess I have a way to go on "diet" thinking. I wish I could give myself unconditional permission to eat any food but I do not want to gain any more weight. That is what I fear will happen. Of course I often forget to eat when I am hungry, stop when I am full, and not eat for emotional reasons, listening to my body,among other things. I am celebrating my birthday, and my brother's, this weekend and plan to enjoy cake and ice cream. I am just noticing that I was still naming foods "good" and "bad". Sandy Hi, . I can appreciate what you said. I, too, feel free from fear of food, because after some time of experimenting and trying out IE ways, I no longer wish to binge. Likely I WILL binge upon occasion, but it's not that constant thing with me now. In fact, I was walking the supermarket aisles the other day and came across my old nemesis, the pretzel and chips aisle. And although I remembered those days of buying gazillions of bags of pretzels, thinking they were better for me than chips, I no longer feel the need or compulsion to go and get them. I am so happy about that! I do really feel that when I am angry or hurt, I no longer need to stuff myself with food to make myself feel better. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:17 PMSubject: OA and freedom! It's neat to hear the sharing from Becky and Tai and others. :)I thought about OA over the past few days, since it came up in discussion. Honestly, it feels odd to think of myself as a compulsive overeater these days. Every day I get better and better...not wanting dessert just because it's there, not needing to stuff myself every day.Last week I was eating in a school cafeteria, and way overate. And my jeans feel a little tight. But...I'm right back in my plan...took a nice walk yesterday, had some ice cream today, but nourishing myself and not worrying. It feels SO GOOD to be liberated from my negative mindset about food. SO GOOD.So...should I try OA? Nope. It's not necessary. Thank the Universe I'm daily freed from the compulsive eating habits of my past...and even when they creep up I can view them with compassion, care, kindness, etc.In other words, I"M FAR from perfect. I DO eat compulsively at times. But, then again, so do most friends I know. It's normal to overeat on occasion...and then to go back to normal eating patterns. Such a great feeling.Hugs and blessings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Sandy, I hate to use the word diet, or restraint. So I'll say orderly manner, because it is quite necessary, isn't it, for your stomach to go down? would eating less of certain substances cause it to be less inflated, do you think? Or do you think the intake you're engaging in is not affecting your stomach in relation to your liver? It seems to me that people with particular health problems that may be associated with the foods they eat need to practice more of a thinking process. Right now I tell myself that I can have anything I want. The thing is, do I really want it? I look at recipes, and mentally I'm saying, "no, I won't cook with that item, or that item." I do not feel deprived, I just won't add it to my intake. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 3:37 PMSubject: Re: OA and freedom! Tai: What do you mean by orderly manner? Sandy Sandy, if you feel better by eating in a more orderly manner, if your stomach goes down and you feel better, why not incorporate that in your thinking process? Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 2:55 PM Subject: Re: OA and freedom! Margaret: I don't know if I am at the danger point yet since my lab work came back good. But I don't want to get to any dangerous point. Even more than that I feel miserable, although that never stopped me from eating before either. My belly has gotten so big, I can hardly sit upright comfortably. I guess I don't fully trust the process yet. Sandy Hi Sandy,I do the same thing when it comes to 'good' and 'bad' foods ... I imagine it's very common and is something we are so accustomed to it's probably something that takes a while to go away. I too am afraid to gain any more weight, and in fact want to lose about twenty pounds, so the whole concept of IE is on the one hand exactly what I want to be doing and believe is best for me and on the other, possibly 'dangerous'? At least where weight gain is concerned. Still, I believe it to be the best and healthiest approach and so here I am. Margaret To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Fri, June 24, 2011 11:08:03 AMSubject: Re: OA and freedom! Hi Tai, I just got back from the grocery store and was thinking how "good" I as doing at making healthy choices. Then I came to the cookie aisle and I started in buyingchocolate filled cookies, choc. Teddy Grahams, hot fudge, ice cream. I noticed that in my mind I was judging them as "bad" foods and myself as "weak". I guess I have a way to go on "diet" thinking. I wish I could give myself unconditional permission to eat any food but I do not want to gain any more weight. That is what I fear will happen. Of course I often forget to eat when I am hungry, stop when I am full, and not eat for emotional reasons, listening to my body,among other things. I am celebrating my birthday, and my brother's, this weekend and plan to enjoy cake and ice cream. I am just noticing that I was still naming foods "good" and "bad". Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Also, Sandy, actions are preceded by thoughts. So if I'm in the aisle where they stock "goodies," I'm now saying to myself -- well, I would have found this irresistable and forbidden a while back. I would have found it hard to tear myself away from the aisle. I would have done so with regret. But now I know I can have it if I really want it. And I don't want it -- now. That's how I'm thinking, Sandy, hope this helps. I believe the principle of IE is: if you really want it, have it. I do not really want it at that point. But it I did, I'd buy it and hopefully enjoy it. But I have learned that I can have it, and if I want it, I can have it later. If I want it. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 3:37 PMSubject: Re: OA and freedom! Tai: What do you mean by orderly manner? Sandy Sandy, if you feel better by eating in a more orderly manner, if your stomach goes down and you feel better, why not incorporate that in your thinking process? Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 2:55 PM Subject: Re: OA and freedom! Margaret: I don't know if I am at the danger point yet since my lab work came back good. But I don't want to get to any dangerous point. Even more than that I feel miserable, although that never stopped me from eating before either. My belly has gotten so big, I can hardly sit upright comfortably. I guess I don't fully trust the process yet. Sandy Hi Sandy,I do the same thing when it comes to 'good' and 'bad' foods ... I imagine it's very common and is something we are so accustomed to it's probably something that takes a while to go away. I too am afraid to gain any more weight, and in fact want to lose about twenty pounds, so the whole concept of IE is on the one hand exactly what I want to be doing and believe is best for me and on the other, possibly 'dangerous'? At least where weight gain is concerned. Still, I believe it to be the best and healthiest approach and so here I am. Margaret To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Fri, June 24, 2011 11:08:03 AMSubject: Re: OA and freedom! Hi Tai, I just got back from the grocery store and was thinking how "good" I as doing at making healthy choices. Then I came to the cookie aisle and I started in buyingchocolate filled cookies, choc. Teddy Grahams, hot fudge, ice cream. I noticed that in my mind I was judging them as "bad" foods and myself as "weak". I guess I have a way to go on "diet" thinking. I wish I could give myself unconditional permission to eat any food but I do not want to gain any more weight. That is what I fear will happen. Of course I often forget to eat when I am hungry, stop when I am full, and not eat for emotional reasons, listening to my body,among other things. I am celebrating my birthday, and my brother's, this weekend and plan to enjoy cake and ice cream. I am just noticing that I was still naming foods "good" and "bad". Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Tai, I've been walking down that aisle with my favorite cookies for months and walked right by without wanting them. Today I just really wanted them and I have had 6 (I think) and enjoyed them. I am still at the point that if I have them in the house I will eat them even if I don't really want them. Sometimes I think if I eat them all quickly then I will be done with them, there won't be any more in the house. I still do better if I don't have things in the house that I tend to over eat. I guess that says I haven't given myself unconditional permission to eat, no forbidden foods and that I don't trust myself. I also will eat those kinds of foods when I am not hungry. As for family celebrations, I am still pondering what you said. I have no problem having cake and ice cream on my birthday. But I would probably not have it in the house, as I would just eat and eat it. When I first started IE and ate ice cream, I got to a point where I did not enjoy it and even threw some of it out. It was during that initial phase where I gave myself unconditional permission to eat foods that I gained so much weight. I have heard that from others on this post too. I guess the part I am having trouble with is " having it later " . I " want " it NOW. You have given me a lot to think about and I have a phone conference with Gillian on Tues. I will take some of these ideas and a few others to talk with her about. Sandy  Also, Sandy, actions are preceded by thoughts. So if I'm in the aisle where they stock " goodies, " I'm now saying to myself -- well, I would have found this irresistable and forbidden a while back. I would have found it hard to tear myself away from the aisle. I would have done so with regret. But now I know I can have it if I really want it. And I don't want it -- now. That's how I'm thinking, Sandy, hope this helps. I believe the principle of IE is: if you really want it, have it. I do not really want it at that point. But it I did, I'd buy it and hopefully enjoy it. But I have learned that I can have it, and if I want it, I can have it later. If I want it. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 3:37 PM Subject: Re: OA and freedom!  Tai: What do you mean by orderly manner? Sandy  Sandy, if you feel better by eating in a more orderly manner, if your stomach goes down and you feel better, why not incorporate that in your thinking process? Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 2:55 PM Subject: Re: OA and freedom!  Margaret: I don't know if I am at the danger point yet since my lab work came back good. But I don't want to get to any dangerous point. Even more than that I feel miserable, although that never stopped me from eating before either. My belly has gotten so big, I can hardly sit upright comfortably. I guess I don't fully trust the process yet. Sandy  Hi Sandy,I do the same thing when it comes to 'good' and 'bad' foods ... I imagine it's very common and is something we are so accustomed to it's probably something that takes a while to go away. I too am afraid to gain any more weight, and in fact want to lose about twenty pounds, so the whole concept of IE is on the one hand exactly what I want to be doing and believe is best for me and on the other, possibly 'dangerous'? At least where weight gain is concerned. Still, I believe it to be the best and healthiest approach and so here I am.  Margaret To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Fri, June 24, 2011 11:08:03 AM Subject: Re: OA and freedom! Hi Tai, I just got back from the grocery store and was thinking how " good " I as doing at making healthy choices. Then I came to the cookie aisle and I started in buyingchocolate filled cookies, choc. Teddy Grahams, hot fudge, ice cream. I noticed that in my mind I was judging them as " bad " foods and myself as " weak " . I guess I have a way to go on " diet " thinking. I wish I could give myself unconditional permission to eat any food but I do not want to gain any more weight. That is what I fear will happen. Of course I often forget to eat when I am hungry, stop when I am full, and not eat for emotional reasons, listening to my body,among other things. I am celebrating my birthday, and my brother's, this weekend and plan to enjoy cake and ice cream. I am just noticing that I was still naming foods " good " and " bad " . Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Sandy, I used to think that if I had certain foods in the house I would eat them. It has stopped. I can have anything in the house and not eat it if I don't want to. that's the thing; I'm giving myself a choice. When I do that, it makes things ever so much easier. And I think that is part of it; wanting to eat those foods more than I don't want to eat them. Sandy, it sounds like you're doing so well. Speaking of wanting foods, if I want something that I must have it, honestly I feel that I must be hungry. Think about when you're really full. Even the good stuff you stop eating. that's how I began reasoning on the matter, that there was a certain point, even in eating the ice cream and candy, that I simply had enough. In the past, when that happened though, I would hate myself, because, of course, I had eaten "too much." Now I understand what it means to be full, and I just don't want to eat a lot of ice cream and cake and candy on a regular basis. But I did. And the important point here is that I realize even when I did that, I would stop eating at a certain point and not be able to eat any more. I don't know -- we're all on different levels. I am eating too much for me to lose weight right now, although in my mind I'm not eating that much. Maybe I am. But I do know that I ate anything and everything according to IE for a long time, and suddenly that passed. My "anything and everything" phase lasted about a year. I gained a lot of weight. Then it stopped. I lost 10 pounds immediately and the rest is coming off like molasses on a January day. In other words, it isn't coming off. Of course, that angst's me. But I'm continuing with the IE, because it's the only way to go. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 9:27 PMSubject: Re: OA and freedom! Tai, I've been walking down that aisle with my favorite cookies for months and walked right by without wanting them. Today I just really wanted them and I have had 6 (I think) and enjoyed them. I am still at the point that if I have them in the house I will eat them even if I don't really want them. Sometimes I think if I eat them all quickly then I will be done with them, there won't be any more in the house. I still do better if I don't have things in the house that I tend to over eat. I guess that says I haven't given myself unconditional permission to eat, no forbidden foods and that I don't trust myself. I also will eat those kinds of foods when I am not hungry. As for family celebrations, I am still pondering what you said. I have no problem having cake and ice cream on my birthday. But I would probably not have it in the house, as I would just eat and eat it. When I first started IE and ate ice cream, I got to a point where I did not enjoy it and even threw some of it out. It was during that initial phase where I gave myself unconditional permission to eat foods that I gained so much weight. I have heard that from others on this post too. I guess the part I am having trouble with is "having it later". I "want" it NOW. You have given me a lot to think about and I have a phone conference with Gillian on Tues. I will take some of these ideas and a few others to talk with her about. Sandy Also, Sandy, actions are preceded by thoughts. So if I'm in the aisle where they stock "goodies," I'm now saying to myself -- well, I would have found this irresistable and forbidden a while back. I would have found it hard to tear myself away from the aisle. I would have done so with regret. But now I know I can have it if I really want it. And I don't want it -- now. That's how I'm thinking, Sandy, hope this helps. I believe the principle of IE is: if you really want it, have it. I do not really want it at that point. But it I did, I'd buy it and hopefully enjoy it. But I have learned that I can have it, and if I want it, I can have it later. If I want it. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 3:37 PM Subject: Re: OA and freedom! Tai: What do you mean by orderly manner? Sandy Sandy, if you feel better by eating in a more orderly manner, if your stomach goes down and you feel better, why not incorporate that in your thinking process? Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 2:55 PM Subject: Re: OA and freedom! Margaret: I don't know if I am at the danger point yet since my lab work came back good. But I don't want to get to any dangerous point. Even more than that I feel miserable, although that never stopped me from eating before either. My belly has gotten so big, I can hardly sit upright comfortably. I guess I don't fully trust the process yet. Sandy Hi Sandy,I do the same thing when it comes to 'good' and 'bad' foods ... I imagine it's very common and is something we are so accustomed to it's probably something that takes a while to go away. I too am afraid to gain any more weight, and in fact want to lose about twenty pounds, so the whole concept of IE is on the one hand exactly what I want to be doing and believe is best for me and on the other, possibly 'dangerous'? At least where weight gain is concerned. Still, I believe it to be the best and healthiest approach and so here I am. Margaret To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Fri, June 24, 2011 11:08:03 AMSubject: Re: OA and freedom! Hi Tai, I just got back from the grocery store and was thinking how "good" I as doing at making healthy choices. Then I came to the cookie aisle and I started in buyingchocolate filled cookies, choc. Teddy Grahams, hot fudge, ice cream. I noticed that in my mind I was judging them as "bad" foods and myself as "weak". I guess I have a way to go on "diet" thinking. I wish I could give myself unconditional permission to eat any food but I do not want to gain any more weight. That is what I fear will happen. Of course I often forget to eat when I am hungry, stop when I am full, and not eat for emotional reasons, listening to my body,among other things. I am celebrating my birthday, and my brother's, this weekend and plan to enjoy cake and ice cream. I am just noticing that I was still naming foods "good" and "bad". Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Tai, It is just so hard for me to think about eating anything and everything for a year. But you sound as if IE worked in that at the end of that time you stopped wanting everything and anything. In other words you " got it " . I am glad for you too that the 10 pounds came off so quickly. Sorry the rest is like molasses on a cold day. You encourage me by the way you say too that IE is the only way to go. I was looking over the HUNGER SCALE again and noticed that a " 2 " was the suggested level to begin eating. I never get below a " 4 " . And It suggested to stop at " 6 " and that in 20 minutes you would be at " 7 " , which would carry you 3-4 hours. I will have to think about this a lot. Maybe it doesn't fit for everyone. Maybe one size doesn't fit all. There was also a page in the workbook in " Healthier Outcomes " that talked about a woman's daily need for chocolate to keep her brain chemicals balanced, the dark kind and only 1/2 an ounce a day. I'm going to think about that too. 1/2 an ounce doesn't seem like much. I am thinking however that if I knew I was going to have it everyday without guilt, it might just work for me. I may test it out for a while and see what happens. You are right about being full on healthier choices and then not wanting the sweets so much, but knowing I can still have them if I am hungry and choose to. Well it's 11:30 here and I'd better get some sleep. We had one heck of a thunder/lightening/rain storm earlier. And needed the rain to help put out all the fires in Volusia county. We did not need the lightening though. I think we have finally entered the rainy season where it rains every afternoon. We need it. Thanks Sandy  Sandy, I used to think that if I had certain foods in the house I would eat them. It has stopped. I can have anything in the house and not eat it if I don't want to. that's the thing; I'm giving myself a choice. When I do that, it makes things ever so much easier. And I think that is part of it; wanting to eat those foods more than I don't want to eat them. Sandy, it sounds like you're doing so well. Speaking of wanting foods, if I want something that I must have it, honestly I feel that I must be hungry. Think about when you're really full. Even the good stuff you stop eating. that's how I began reasoning on the matter, that there was a certain point, even in eating the ice cream and candy, that I simply had enough. In the past, when that happened though, I would hate myself, because, of course, I had eaten " too much. " Now I understand what it means to be full, and I just don't want to eat a lot of ice cream and cake and candy on a regular basis. But I did. And the important point here is that I realize even when I did that, I would stop eating at a certain point and not be able to eat any more. I don't know -- we're all on different levels. I am eating too much for me to lose weight right now, although in my mind I'm not eating that much. Maybe I am. But I do know that I ate anything and everything according to IE for a long time, and suddenly that passed. My " anything and everything " phase lasted about a year. I gained a lot of weight. Then it stopped. I lost 10 pounds immediately and the rest is coming off like molasses on a January day. In other words, it isn't coming off. Of course, that angst's me. But I'm continuing with the IE, because it's the only way to go. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 9:27 PM Subject: Re: OA and freedom!  Tai, I've been walking down that aisle with my favorite cookies for months and walked right by without wanting them. Today I just really wanted them and I have had 6 (I think) and enjoyed them. I am still at the point that if I have them in the house I will eat them even if I don't really want them. Sometimes I think if I eat them all quickly then I will be done with them, there won't be any more in the house. I still do better if I don't have things in the house that I tend to over eat. I guess that says I haven't given myself unconditional permission to eat, no forbidden foods and that I don't trust myself. I also will eat those kinds of foods when I am not hungry. As for family celebrations, I am still pondering what you said. I have no problem having cake and ice cream on my birthday. But I would probably not have it in the house, as I would just eat and eat it. When I first started IE and ate ice cream, I got to a point where I did not enjoy it and even threw some of it out. It was during that initial phase where I gave myself unconditional permission to eat foods that I gained so much weight. I have heard that from others on this post too. I guess the part I am having trouble with is " having it later " . I " want " it NOW. You have given me a lot to think about and I have a phone conference with Gillian on Tues. I will take some of these ideas and a few others to talk with her about. Sandy  Also, Sandy, actions are preceded by thoughts. So if I'm in the aisle where they stock " goodies, " I'm now saying to myself -- well, I would have found this irresistable and forbidden a while back. I would have found it hard to tear myself away from the aisle. I would have done so with regret. But now I know I can have it if I really want it. And I don't want it -- now. That's how I'm thinking, Sandy, hope this helps. I believe the principle of IE is: if you really want it, have it. I do not really want it at that point. But it I did, I'd buy it and hopefully enjoy it. But I have learned that I can have it, and if I want it, I can have it later. If I want it. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 3:37 PM Subject: Re: OA and freedom!  Tai: What do you mean by orderly manner? Sandy  Sandy, if you feel better by eating in a more orderly manner, if your stomach goes down and you feel better, why not incorporate that in your thinking process? Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 2:55 PM Subject: Re: OA and freedom!  Margaret: I don't know if I am at the danger point yet since my lab work came back good. But I don't want to get to any dangerous point. Even more than that I feel miserable, although that never stopped me from eating before either. My belly has gotten so big, I can hardly sit upright comfortably. I guess I don't fully trust the process yet. Sandy  Hi Sandy,I do the same thing when it comes to 'good' and 'bad' foods ... I imagine it's very common and is something we are so accustomed to it's probably something that takes a while to go away. I too am afraid to gain any more weight, and in fact want to lose about twenty pounds, so the whole concept of IE is on the one hand exactly what I want to be doing and believe is best for me and on the other, possibly 'dangerous'? At least where weight gain is concerned. Still, I believe it to be the best and healthiest approach and so here I am.  Margaret To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Fri, June 24, 2011 11:08:03 AM Subject: Re: OA and freedom! Hi Tai, I just got back from the grocery store and was thinking how " good " I as doing at making healthy choices. Then I came to the cookie aisle and I started in buyingchocolate filled cookies, choc. Teddy Grahams, hot fudge, ice cream. I noticed that in my mind I was judging them as " bad " foods and myself as " weak " . I guess I have a way to go on " diet " thinking. I wish I could give myself unconditional permission to eat any food but I do not want to gain any more weight. That is what I fear will happen. Of course I often forget to eat when I am hungry, stop when I am full, and not eat for emotional reasons, listening to my body,among other things. I am celebrating my birthday, and my brother's, this weekend and plan to enjoy cake and ice cream. I am just noticing that I was still naming foods " good " and " bad " . Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 You know what, Sandy, I've been thinking about you today, and I agree with you. I "had it" for a while. <smile> Yesterday I didn't "have it." I was dying for a pizza slice, and this was just after I had eaten a lunch that filled me up. I couldn't get that pizza out of my mind. But i couldn't find a place that sold a slice or two around here. So I did the next best thing -- ordered fabulous curry chicken with rice and the whole 9 yards. That wasn't enough. I had ice cream after that. I didn't feel too good when I went to sleep, my stomach was a little over-full.Did the curry chicken satisfy me? Yes, it did. I had a moment of fear after that I would abandon the principles of IE today, but I have not, with one exception. I've been stuffed up, constipated, for the past few days. So I decided to eat only oatmeal and fresh fruit for the entire day, hoping that would start me going. And so I am doing that. I'm eating the fruit when I want to, and stopping when I feel full. I was so happy when I found a Publix in the area where I could sit down and eat a nice bowlful of fresh fruit.PLUS -- I decided I wanted a day to eat nothing but chocolate cake and fresh fruit. Yup, the whole day of cake and fruit. Since I am so far succeeding in eating nothing but fresh fruit today (something I wouldn't have been able to do before, because I would rationalize it after a while and say, 'well, I did one or two meals with nothing but fresh fruit, now I can have meat, or cheese, or whatever'), I believe that I can eat cake and fruit and when I want it and not go back to compulsive eating. In fact, my ability to eat more than what my stomach feels good holding is getting less and less, so I can stop eating even those delicious foods like gooey chocolate cake when I want to. (I think, I'll let you know.) Meantime, I'd love to hear what Gillian told you, you said you were going to have a conference with her soon?You are right to analyze me as you have, I thought I had it, but yesterday I did what my desires told me to do and I didn't have that big fight on my hands, although I felt slightly guilty for eating what I did. But today I think I'm OK again. Thanks for your thought on the matter, you are quite right. On the encouraging note: we ARE going to keep going the IE way, aren't we? I only explained about the year, because that really was out of my control, and finally finally I came to my senses, thank goodness, after I saw how much weight I gained! Although dieting is not the way to go for me, neither is abandoning common sense, and IE shall we say. Deep regard, TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 11:28 PMSubject: Re: OA and freedom! Tai, It is just so hard for me to think about eating anything and everything for a year. But you sound as if IE worked in that at the end of that time you stopped wanting everything and anything. In other words you "got it". I am glad for you too that the 10 pounds came off so quickly. Sorry the rest is like molasses on a cold day. You encourage me by the way you say too that IE is the only way to go. I was looking over the HUNGER SCALE again and noticed that a "2" was the suggested level to begin eating. I never get below a "4". And It suggested to stop at "6" and that in 20 minutes you would be at "7", which would carry you 3-4 hours. I will have to think about this a lot. Maybe it doesn't fit for everyone. Maybe one size doesn't fit all. There was also a page in the workbook in "Healthier Outcomes" that talked about a woman's daily need for chocolate to keep her brain chemicals balanced, the dark kind and only 1/2 an ounce a day. I'm going to think about that too. 1/2 an ounce doesn't seem like much. I am thinking however that if I knew I was going to have it everyday without guilt, it might just work for me. I may test it out for a while and see what happens. You are right about being full on healthier choices and then not wanting the sweets so much, but knowing I can still have them if I am hungry and choose to. Well it's 11:30 here and I'd better get some sleep. We had one heck of a thunder/lightening/rain storm earlier. And needed the rain to help put out all the fires in Volusia county. We did not need the lightening though. I think we have finally entered the rainy season where it rains every afternoon. We need it. Thanks Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 You know what, Sandy, I've been thinking about you today, and I agree with you. I "had it" for a while. <smile> Yesterday I didn't "have it." I was dying for a pizza slice, and this was just after I had eaten a lunch that filled me up. I couldn't get that pizza out of my mind. But i couldn't find a place that sold a slice or two around here. So I did the next best thing -- ordered fabulous curry chicken with rice and the whole 9 yards. That wasn't enough. I had ice cream after that. I didn't feel too good when I went to sleep, my stomach was a little over-full.Did the curry chicken satisfy me? Yes, it did. I had a moment of fear after that I would abandon the principles of IE today, but I have not, with one exception. I've been stuffed up, constipated, for the past few days. So I decided to eat only oatmeal and fresh fruit for the entire day, hoping that would start me going. And so I am doing that. I'm eating the fruit when I want to, and stopping when I feel full. I was so happy when I found a Publix in the area where I could sit down and eat a nice bowlful of fresh fruit.PLUS -- I decided I wanted a day to eat nothing but chocolate cake and fresh fruit. Yup, the whole day of cake and fruit. Since I am so far succeeding in eating nothing but fresh fruit today (something I wouldn't have been able to do before, because I would rationalize it after a while and say, 'well, I did one or two meals with nothing but fresh fruit, now I can have meat, or cheese, or whatever'), I believe that I can eat cake and fruit and when I want it and not go back to compulsive eating. In fact, my ability to eat more than what my stomach feels good holding is getting less and less, so I can stop eating even those delicious foods like gooey chocolate cake when I want to. (I think, I'll let you know.) Meantime, I'd love to hear what Gillian told you, you said you were going to have a conference with her soon?You are right to analyze me as you have, I thought I had it, but yesterday I did what my desires told me to do and I didn't have that big fight on my hands, although I felt slightly guilty for eating what I did. But today I think I'm OK again. Thanks for your thought on the matter, you are quite right. On the encouraging note: we ARE going to keep going the IE way, aren't we? I only explained about the year, because that really was out of my control, and finally finally I came to my senses, thank goodness, after I saw how much weight I gained! Although dieting is not the way to go for me, neither is abandoning common sense, and IE shall we say. Deep regard, TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 11:28 PMSubject: Re: OA and freedom! Tai, It is just so hard for me to think about eating anything and everything for a year. But you sound as if IE worked in that at the end of that time you stopped wanting everything and anything. In other words you "got it". I am glad for you too that the 10 pounds came off so quickly. Sorry the rest is like molasses on a cold day. You encourage me by the way you say too that IE is the only way to go. I was looking over the HUNGER SCALE again and noticed that a "2" was the suggested level to begin eating. I never get below a "4". And It suggested to stop at "6" and that in 20 minutes you would be at "7", which would carry you 3-4 hours. I will have to think about this a lot. Maybe it doesn't fit for everyone. Maybe one size doesn't fit all. There was also a page in the workbook in "Healthier Outcomes" that talked about a woman's daily need for chocolate to keep her brain chemicals balanced, the dark kind and only 1/2 an ounce a day. I'm going to think about that too. 1/2 an ounce doesn't seem like much. I am thinking however that if I knew I was going to have it everyday without guilt, it might just work for me. I may test it out for a while and see what happens. You are right about being full on healthier choices and then not wanting the sweets so much, but knowing I can still have them if I am hungry and choose to. Well it's 11:30 here and I'd better get some sleep. We had one heck of a thunder/lightening/rain storm earlier. And needed the rain to help put out all the fires in Volusia county. We did not need the lightening though. I think we have finally entered the rainy season where it rains every afternoon. We need it. Thanks Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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