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'Beyond the `120-Year Diet' - Walford has lots of recipes and menus. It is a

great read also.

Best of success,

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Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 9:25 AM

Subject: [ ] Newbie

Hi,

I'm new to all this and just finished reading the archives. This

all is overwhelming and over my head. I found out about this through

the PBS program " Fat and Happy? " I saw the entire program and the

next day went out and got the supplies I needed to make Dr. Walford's

Salad. It was wonderful. I found myself full of energy. My blood

sugars stabalized. I am looking not only to lose weight (I have

about 100 lbs to lose), but more importantly I want my health back.

I have recently been put on medications for diabetes (I've diet

controlled it for almost 10 years), I have high cholesterol,

triglycerides etc. My hdl is low normal (up from a couple years

ago).

What I'm mainly interested in are ways to change my diet and

incorporate more foods like the Walford Salad. Is there a recipe

book, web site etc. to begin with? My biggest problem is breakfast

time. I'm not a breakfast eater, but I know it's important. I think

most often I avoid starting breakfast because when I eat breakfast

and lunch, by afternoon I am starving.

That is one thing I noticed about the Walford Salad. When I ate it I

felt full and not deprived.

Help, I'm at a loss of where to go from here. I'm going to try and

find Dr. Walfords book. Does it give recipes and food tips?

TIA for your help.

Chris

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There's

http://www.walford.com/kitchen.htm

also.

Regards.

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From: <townefamily@...>

< >

Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 9:25 AM

Subject: [ ] Newbie

> Hi,

> I'm new to all this and just finished reading the archives. This

> all is overwhelming and over my head. I found out about this through

> the PBS program " Fat and Happy? " I saw the entire program and the

> next day went out and got the supplies I needed to make Dr. Walford's

> Salad. It was wonderful. I found myself full of energy. My blood

> sugars stabalized. I am looking not only to lose weight (I have

> about 100 lbs to lose), but more importantly I want my health back.

> I have recently been put on medications for diabetes (I've diet

> controlled it for almost 10 years), I have high cholesterol,

> triglycerides etc. My hdl is low normal (up from a couple years

> ago).

>

> What I'm mainly interested in are ways to change my diet and

> incorporate more foods like the Walford Salad. Is there a recipe

> book, web site etc. to begin with? My biggest problem is breakfast

> time. I'm not a breakfast eater, but I know it's important. I think

> most often I avoid starting breakfast because when I eat breakfast

> and lunch, by afternoon I am starving.

>

> That is one thing I noticed about the Walford Salad. When I ate it I

> felt full and not deprived.

>

> Help, I'm at a loss of where to go from here. I'm going to try and

> find Dr. Walfords book. Does it give recipes and food tips?

>

> TIA for your help.

> Chris

>

>

>

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> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 03:52:58 -0000

> From: seize_your_life@...

>Subject: Reading...reading...and MORE reading!(laughs)

>

>I know I said I'd go away, but I've been reading through the posts on

>the message board. I think I read the last 60 or 70 of them...and I

>came away feeling like such a " newbie " . I have another " newbie " type

Dear sieze: Welcome to the group. You will lose weight fairly briskly at

first; then you should slow down or you will do your body harm.

Read all the archives to see where we all are and how thin etc we are. Also

visit the main group files. There is also a picture file with mug shots of

some of us.

Dean Pomerleau, a very prolific main group member is quoted in only one file

in the support group. None of the files were actually written by him.

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> From: trustinit <trustinit@...>

>Subject: Introducing Me!

>

>Well, being the brave soul that I am, I'll introduce

>myself after reading only a couple digests (after all,

>I am here to exchange information, offer and receive

>support, and how can I do that if...)!

I hope you'll avail yourself of all the archives and files (on the home

page). Of course the best place to start is to read Dr W's books.

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>one question I have

>is with the artificial sweetners that are mentioned in recipes; Is the group

>view of the CR Diet simply caloric restriction focused? I also have an

>interest in the caloric restriction, but the nutritional focus if what drew

>me. I have certainly enjoyed Greg 's research! Thank you. Fantastic

>stuff I'd have searched hours upon hours to find.

>I would also like to know what weight charts CR looks to for the 15% below

>normal body weight? Is that correct? For perfect health and long life I'd

>like help on the calculations.

Welcome Jeanne. What is your question about the artificial sweetners?

Most cronies use Splenda (sucralose) for sweetner.

The view is that of Walford's books. Have you read them? CRON (WE ARE

CRONIES) for Calorie Restriction, OPTIMUM NUTRITION. Read the files on the

home page.

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Other than a sweet crutch what does splenda provide?

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From: T. Francesca Skelton <fskelton@...>

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Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 9:11 AM

Subject: [ ] Re:newbie

> >one question I have

> >is with the artificial sweetners that are mentioned in recipes; Is the

group

> >view of the CR Diet simply caloric restriction focused? I also have an

> >interest in the caloric restriction, but the nutritional focus if what

drew

> >me. I have certainly enjoyed Greg 's research! Thank you.

Fantastic

> >stuff I'd have searched hours upon hours to find.

> >I would also like to know what weight charts CR looks to for the 15%

below

> >normal body weight? Is that correct? For perfect health and long life

I'd

> >like help on the calculations.

>

> Welcome Jeanne. What is your question about the artificial sweetners?

> Most cronies use Splenda (sucralose) for sweetner.

>

> The view is that of Walford's books. Have you read them? CRON (WE ARE

> CRONIES) for Calorie Restriction, OPTIMUM NUTRITION. Read the files on

the

> home page.

>

>

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: Welcome to the support group!

Have you read Walford's books? Also see the support list files for foods

and advice when starting out. The archives are also very useful.

Your post is very general. Perhaps if you tell us your diet for a typical

day, it would be easier to give you advice. Although you say you're sort of

on a CRON diet, very few people on ad lib actually eat the " weird " and

offbeat foods that many of us CRONIES eat such as: sprouts, nuts, brewer's

yeast, essential fats, etc. Are you careful to get all the nutrients

necessary on a lower cal diet?

If you're thin starting out, you shouldn't go to extremes. Thinner cronies

should be on a milder program. This is all explained in Walford's books.

So let's hear more about you.

> Hi everyone,

> I have been familiar with this diet for many years but have never pursued it

> partially because it is not dramatically different than my typical habits..I

> am 34, 5' 7.5 " and weigh under 140..My diet (in calories and quality

> although I eat less frequent meals of higher calorie foods typically) tends

> towards the same foods in the CRON diet but with less strict

> discipline...But I realize my diet is not restrictive enough to generate the

> CRON benefits..Since I am already thin (fat is well under 10% i imagine

> although I don't know exactly), should I do something differently beginning

> the diet? If I were to attempt to lose a lot from here I would be pretty

> thin...Can you all point me in some direction to get started or do I need

> special direction given that I am already fairly thin? Thanks in

> advance..Expect to hear more from me...

>

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In a message dated 4/6/02 8:54:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, eden88@...

writes:

> I have been lurking for awhile. I was diagnosed with gb sludge last year. In

> addition to an ultrasound I had the test (can't remember the name) that

> checks into the pancreas. The Dr. thought it looked like I had an enlarged

> duct and was looking for a stone-there was none. He said only sludge to

> wait until I had more problems.

>

Hi Joyce - welcome to the group :)

Please don't wait until your body creates more problems! You can do

something about it now, as you know from your reading out here. I hope that

you will choose to start flushing now and get that sludge out before it has a

chance to turn into stones.

in health,

rachel~

" Live your dreams now. Life is not a dress rehearsal. "

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Hi Eden,

Does this mean you are going to try to flush yourself? Check out the

testimonies, information, and pictures at http:www.curezone.com

It's packed with information.

Let us know when you flush!!! :-)

Be Healthy.

Barry.

> Hi everyone,

>

> I have been lurking for awhile. I was diagnosed with gb sludge last

year. In addition to an ultrasound I had the test (can't remember the

name) that checks into the pancreas. The Dr. thought it looked like I

had an enlarged duct and was looking for a stone-there was none. He

said only sludge to wait until I had more problems.

>

> I have been having colic off and on for at least 12 years. I am 49

now. Oh, I also have a fatty liver the enzyme(?) Gamma GTT is high.

>

> Last Friday my cousin's wife became very ill (with what she assumed

was an intestinal virus that is currently making it's rounds in our

area). It started at 6:30 AM and by 11 AM she was rushed in an

ambulance to the ER. She vomited constantly and actually felt so

sick she told me she wanted to die. She is about my age - The Dr.

said she would have died if she hadn't came in.

> She is a diabetic and was in Acidosis- I have never heard of this

so I don't know if it came from the diabetes ,but I thought I'd

mention it.

>

> Anyway they ran tests and after she was strong enough they operated

and removed her gallbladder. Her Dr. said she had thousands of stones

the size of a mustard seed. So I guess they are about the size of a

grain of sand maybe smaller... As soon as she came to after surgery

she felt better and was able to eat within only 3 hours! She is doing

really well.

>

> This has me thinking that I don't want to wait until any longer.

My Dad used to do flushes years ago, I remember he used olive oil and

lemon juice. I never paid too much attention. He probably got the

directions from the former Clymer Clinic from his Dr.

>

> Dad died in a car wreck so I do not have those directions. I

remember he said he passed stones that looked like emeralds I don't

know if he was joking , but he never mentioned pea green.

>

> I have been cheering you on every weekend also said some prayers

for you.

>

> Joyce

>

>

>

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> I'd get as fat as an ox on this recipe. I eat All-Bran extra fiber w/ Land O'

> Lakes fat-free half and half in the AM. Then, again, I eat during the day.

Welcome to the group, ! I had no idea that there was a FF half and

half; I'll be on the lookout for it.

>

> By the way, my name is Simone, and I'm new to this group. I'm still

> waiting for my Walford books, but I've been doing my own CR for quite a

> while.

while waiting for your books, be sure to read the support list files to help

get you started.

I tried Atkins for a while, until I started losing hair and feeling

> weak! Also, the amount of sat-fat is ridiculous. Note: Atkins had a heart

> attack a couple of weeks ago! So I started my own version of low-carb, no

> sat-fat, high omega, low-cal diet, and I've been doing this for quite a

> while. The only thing is that I am in very good physical condition (some

> weights and yoga) and my weight will not move any lower, though I feel better

> a bit lighter. I am 5'5'' and weigh 109 lbs. I have 10% body fat (calipers

> method.) I gained a little recently as I started adding more carbs (fiber

> cereal, oatmeal, more veggies, some fruit.) My digestive system is grateful

> for the additions, but I get terrible headaches. And my weight went from 107

> to 109.

>

> Please feel free to e-mail or comment. Thanks.

>

> Simone

OK comments - CR is definitely a low cal, some omega (not too much 'cause

it's extra cals) but not necessarily a low carb diet. We eat a lot of

veggies and moderate amts of fruit for their health benes.

You are already very thin and probably shouldn't be losing (or at least not

losing any significant amts of weight). Again read the files and ask any

questions. we're here to help.

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In a message dated 6/7/02 7:35:17 PM, steve@... writes:

<< Does anyone have any suggestions about how slowly I should progress

towards CR? I have been mildly overweight for most of my life,

but I seem to be managing to lose a pound or two each week.

Also, any suggestions as to how I could eventually persuade my

partner Jon to try CR at some time in the future?

>>

First, I suggest that you clean out your cupboards and frig. Stock up with

veg, fruits, high-quality proteins. Get some nice teas and coffee, and a

bottle or two of good red wine (if you drink wine, of course.) Before you

start restricting, start by doing the " ON " part (optimal nutrition.)

As for Jon, keep some articles and books around, set a good example - he'll

be impressed when you start looking healthy and you complexion,

energy-levels, and concentration improve. I think that healthy specimens

usually look healthy.

Welcome! Browse through the archives.

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on 6/7/2002 7:34 PM, Steve Zara at steve@... wrote:

> Does anyone have an suggestions about how slowly I should progress

> towards CR? I have been mildly overweight for most of my life,

> but I seem to be managing to lose a pound or two each week.

>

> Also, any suggestions as to how I could eventually persuade my

> partner Jon to try CR at some time in the future?

>

Steve: a hearty welcome! What type of scientist are you? Have you read

any of Walford's books? Also check out the files on the main page left hand

margin.

Usually when starting CR, people lose rapidly at first (a pound a week or

so) but after two or three months, you should slow down for optimum health.

It's all in Walford's books. I started losing only a pound or so a month

after the initial weight loss and it took me a good year or more to

stabilize at my present weight (a total loss of about 25 lbs - from 138 to

114). Walford recommends taking as long as two years.

Actually weight is not stressed as much as lowering calories with optimal

nutrition.

On your second question, after over 2 years on CR, I still can't get my own

spouse to actually become a CRONIE. However he does eat much healthier than

he used to. He just is very weak where food is concerned. I think you'll

find more often than not that most spouses are not on CR. It's the rarity

(one or two couples that I can think of) where both are on CR. It can be a

real problem and there's a lot of discussion about it in the archives.

However it's always a good subject to bring up on the list again; I'm always

open to new ideas to get my spouse more involved!

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On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 07:47:24PM -0400, Francesca Skelton wrote:

> on 6/7/2002 7:34 PM, Steve Zara at steve@... wrote:

>

> > Does anyone have an suggestions about how slowly I should progress

> > towards CR? I have been mildly overweight for most of my life,

> > but I seem to be managing to lose a pound or two each week.

> >

> > Also, any suggestions as to how I could eventually persuade my

> > partner Jon to try CR at some time in the future?

> >

> Steve: a hearty welcome! What type of scientist are you? Have you read

> any of Walford's books? Also check out the files on the main page left hand

> margin.

I'm a generalist, but with past specialisations in Biochemistry.

(I have a Ph.D in Plant Biochemistry). These days, I'm more into

computers.

Haven't read Walfords books yet - a bit worried my partner will think

I'm being a bit cranky.

>

> Usually when starting CR, people lose rapidly at first (a pound a week or

> so) but after two or three months, you should slow down for optimum health.

> It's all in Walford's books. I started losing only a pound or so a month

> after the initial weight loss and it took me a good year or more to

> stabilize at my present weight (a total loss of about 25 lbs - from 138 to

> 114). Walford recommends taking as long as two years.

>

> Actually weight is not stressed as much as lowering calories with optimal

> nutrition.

>

> On your second question, after over 2 years on CR, I still can't get my own

> spouse to actually become a CRONIE. However he does eat much healthier than

> he used to. He just is very weak where food is concerned. I think you'll

> find more often than not that most spouses are not on CR. It's the rarity

> (one or two couples that I can think of) where both are on CR. It can be a

> real problem and there's a lot of discussion about it in the archives.

> However it's always a good subject to bring up on the list again; I'm always

> open to new ideas to get my spouse more involved!

We are both seriously into healthy eating - mostly into 'vegetarian +

lots of fish' (is there a term for this?). As a biochemist, I have been

seriously worried about antibiotics and hormones in farmed animals,

so we both switched away from red meat and poultry about 4 years ago.

My partner also has a family history of cancer in late middle-age,

so he's very interested in anti-oxidant foods which seem to have a good

reputation for preventing this. His real weakness is Ben & Jerry's

ice cream, so any suggestions for desserts would be most welcome!

(I am a curry addict).

Thanks for the advice about taking it slowly - I'm losing weight for

general health reasons anyway right now anyway. I guess I should

real Walford's book!

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> Living longer and healthier is

> great, but the attitude I sense from some on this list is that people

> who are not making the same changes we are are stupid, ineffectual, and

> lazy. This is not the case and this supercilious attitude seems to me

> to be a projection of resentment/discrimination against lay people. The

> science is important, but it must be accessible because not everyone is

> a scientist. .....I don't mean to be bombastic here, but I don't think the

importance of

tolerance can be understated.

: you are not the first person to point this out. You will probaly

not be the last. Unfortunately many don't agree with you. I however do. I

hope you will also consider joining the sister list........

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You are one very lucky guy to be on this website and know about the liver

cleanse! This could possibly change your life!! Yes, go ahead and do the

cleanse. There is another website: www.curezone.com that has hundreds of post

of people who have done the cleanse. Go there and get ready to read and read

and then read some more!

janwood04141963 wrote:I had my first gallbladder attack on Saturday night and

that was one

of the most painful things I ever experinced other than my bowel

ubstrucction. They gave me a muscle relaxent in the ER and that

didn't do anything . Only the shot of morphine seemed to help. I am

very interested in the cleanse you are talking about but I take

medication for manic depression and it would be very important that a

cleanse would not interfere with the absorption of my meds to keep me

mentally stable. Will the cleanse effect my meds that I am on?I would

appreciate any response.

Janice

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Hello JDP:

I'd recommend trying www.acam.org for an open minded Doctor to prescribe the

LDN. There are some listed in your 4 State area that are not too terribly

far away from Tulsa. I wish you the best of luck.

Noland

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<low dose naltrexone >

Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:09 AM

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] newbie

> Hi -

> I am new to this group. My wife has primary progressive MS (2-03)

> and is on Copaxone and baclofen. LDN seems to be an alternative

> which might help her as the copaxone does not seem to be helping.

> Is there anyone around the Tulsa, OK area? We would like to know

> of any doctors who might prescribe LDN in case ours will not.

>

> Thanks JDP

>

>

>

>

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I am not taking it for kidney cancer but will be taking it for chronic lymphocitic leukemia as soon as my order of LDN arrives in the next couple of days. While kidney cancer is not specifically listed as responding to LDN in the www.ldninfo.org wep page, it's still worth trying. Another good thing is, it won't bankrupt you to try it.

Other sources of information that I found useful are as follows:

1. www.bioimmune.com

2. www.mycancercompass.com

3. www.acam.org

Another option that I am researching also is found at www.mwt.net/~drbrewer. The articles are titled Cancer Smart Bomb, Part I and II.

If you should have any questions, please let me know. I'm more than happy to answer them, if I can.

Noland

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rangeus50@...

Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 12:33 PM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] newbie

Any one dealing with kidney cancer and taking LDN, please e-mail me at WILDFLOWER1129@.... I would be very appreciative.

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The doctor will likely set you on a course of action to deal with the

disease activity. I have found with my rheumatologist that he

focuses on that and for the rest I have had to educate myself and

take advantage of other resources either on my own or with the

assistance of my PCP.

I have seen physical and occupational therapists for splints and

exercise and an orthotist to get shoe inserts which really help me

walk in comfort.

When my hands and wrists were hurting I found it helpful to use

resting splints at night.

You can learn a lot from the group.

Annette

> Hey Kathy :)

>

> That's how I was diagnosed too, blood tests and a very thorough and

painful

> physical.

>

> Blessings - kins

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> From: Kathy Schark

> Date: 04/10/05 11:12:18

> Rheumatoid Arthritis

> Subject: Newbie

>

> Hi my name is Kathy and I am a newbie,

>

> My internest diagnosed RA after a bunch of blood tests after he

looked at my

> stiff swollen hands. PT has helped the stiffness and I see the RA

for the

> first time tomorrow.

>

> What do you think are the most important questions to ask?

>

> What information should I most definitely obtain?

>

> I am at the stage where the hand thing is painful, annoying and

limiting

> some activities but I sure felt worse before my knee replacements

for osteo

> (one place the d*mned ra can't go, hehe). I don't know what to

expect.

>

..

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Just wanted say Hello

I am a 31 year old lady with RA.

I have 2 children and happily married.

But this is a very difficult disease and I was looking for others who

have it.

God Bless,,Loucretia

Look forward to your post

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Thanks Sue it helps to know others who can relate

Blessings

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Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:08 PM

Subject: Re: Newbie

Hi Loucretia, welcome to the group not the suffering. Look forward to getting to know you better over the coming weeks or months. Dorey----- Original Message ----- From: "bloodhoundcentral" <slbhounds@...><Rheumatoid Arthritis >Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 9:40 PMSubject: Newbie>>>> Just wanted say Hello> I am a 31 year old lady with RA.> I have 2 children and happily married.> But this is a very difficult disease and I was looking for others who> have it.> God Bless,,Loucretia>> Look forward to your post>>>>>>>>>>>

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Hello and welcome to the group. I'm a 77 year old who has had RA for a little over three years. I started with Arava with little success, about three months later replaced it with Methotrexate also with little success. Then after another three months we added Remicade at 3 mg/kg with little success. We gradually increased the Remicade to 6 mg/kg and finally got things under pretty good control.

Everyone seems to be different in how they react to RA medicines so it is very much a trial and error situation. Unfortunately we often hear a lot more about the error (things that don't really work). Of course, if people have very good success they are not likely to come to or stay with a message board so we get the worst cases here. Chances are your treatments will be more successful than the average you read about here.

I look forward to hearing more from you. Please ask whatever questions you have and someone here will try to respond. God bless.

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Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 9:40 PM

Subject: Newbie

Just wanted say HelloI am a 31 year old lady with RA.I have 2 children and happily married.But this is a very difficult disease and I was looking for others who have it.God Bless,,LoucretiaLook forward to your post

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Hi Loucretia, welcome to the group not the suffering. Look forward to

getting to know you better over the coming weeks or months.

Dorey

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From: " bloodhoundcentral " <slbhounds@...>

<Rheumatoid Arthritis >

Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 9:40 PM

Subject: Newbie

>

>

>

> Just wanted say Hello

> I am a 31 year old lady with RA.

> I have 2 children and happily married.

> But this is a very difficult disease and I was looking for others who

> have it.

> God Bless,,Loucretia

>

> Look forward to your post

>

>

>

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>

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Hi Dixiepeep, don't be nervous, take a list of all the questions you want

answers to and all of your concerns......Write them out or you will forget

when you get there.

The doctor is just going to do an examination and ask you some questions,

perhaps send you for more blood work.

The doc might also talk to you about choices in medications.

There is nothing to be nervous of though. And you are very fortunate not to

have to wait months to get in to see the Rheumatologist.

Dorey

www.LivingWithRheumatoidArthritis.com

----- Original Message -----

From: " Dixiepeep " <kbjarvis@...>

<Rheumatoid Arthritis >

Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 5:56 AM

Subject: Newbie

My regular doc is sending me to a RA doc because of lab work and pain

I am having. What will the RA doc do? I am nervous. I go Thursday.

Yikes!

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