Re: eating too fast

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I read somewhere that at an IE retreat the people were asked to eat one strawberry and really fully experience it.  After that they could chose what else they wanted.  Today I was hungry and had a snack at 10am. At 11am I was so hungry I could have eaten cardboard.  I had half a banana and some peanut butter because that usually fills me.  At 12 I was so hungry I made a huge salad with tomatoes, lettuce, nuts, chicken, cheese, cucumber and oil and vinegar dressing.  I had 2 pieces of sandwich thins toasted.(those are a new discovery for me and I really like them for sandwiches too.  After 30 min. I was still hungry and not satisfied so I had some instant chocolate pudding. I was satisfied. Then I went grocery shopping and have been feeling ok. It's after 2 and I am starting to feel hungry again.  A salad never did hold me long, even with all the protein in it. Am I misinterpreting what I feel as hunger when it is something else?   It sure feels like hunger in the pit of my stomach.  If I go much longer without eating I am afraid I will bee so hungry I will overeat by a lot.  Sometimes distraction helps for a while.  Sandy

 

OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action -- but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I even think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now I'd like to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to nibble -- eat very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because eating can and should be a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to endure for a few minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need help here. Tai

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Sandy,

It sounds like you are doing just right! It's great that you fed yourself when hungry!

Why would you want to distract yourself from your hunger?

I think feeding yourself as soon as you can is really important, ESPECIALLY when starting IE. How else can your body learn that it's safe to trust you?

Also, of course, you are much more likely to stop before overly full if you are not ravenous when you start.

Tai, maybe you could try being a food anthroplogist! Try experimenting... there's no right or wrong answer. I have found " the sigh " (when you suddenly let out a big sigh while eating) to be a good indicator of when I'm full... but the problem is that I often then am hungry very soon thereafter, again. Not truly a problem, but sometimes inconvenient. So I often choose to ignore it for a few bites.

It's fun (and fine) to experiment!

Abby

> OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action -- but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I even think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now I'd like to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to nibble -- eat very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because eating can and should be a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to endure for a few minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need help here. Tai

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If I ate every time I was hungry I'd be eating every hour.   That says to me that perhaps I am not eating enough when I do eat or I am not eating foods that sustain me.  I am trying to make a list of those foods that I like and that do sustain me for more than an hour.  I have some that do a pretty good job.  Almost always it is a protein along with a complex carb and some fat.  But that doesn't always work.  Like a salad even with protein in it doesn't seem to fit the bill. I am finding that too much salad or fruit is hard on my IBS too.  Sandy

 

Sandy,

It sounds like you are doing just right! It's great that you fed yourself when hungry!

Why would you want to distract yourself from your hunger?

I think feeding yourself as soon as you can is really important, ESPECIALLY when starting IE. How else can your body learn that it's safe to trust you?

Also, of course, you are much more likely to stop before overly full if you are not ravenous when you start.

Tai, maybe you could try being a food anthroplogist! Try experimenting... there's no right or wrong answer. I have found " the sigh " (when you suddenly let out a big sigh while eating) to be a good indicator of when I'm full... but the problem is that I often then am hungry very soon thereafter, again. Not truly a problem, but sometimes inconvenient. So I often choose to ignore it for a few bites.

It's fun (and fine) to experiment!

Abby

> OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action -- but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I even think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now I'd like to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to nibble -- eat very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because eating can and should be a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to endure for a few minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need help here. Tai

[Guest guest]

Abby, hi. I was advised some time ago about the "sigh" to denote to me when I'm satisfied. I do notice that sigh after a good meal. :-) I have to enjoy my meal to get that instinctive sigh, but it now alerts me that I am full. Thanks for helping me. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 5:02 PMSubject:

Re: eating too fast

If I ate every time I was hungry I'd be eating every hour. That says to me that perhaps I am not eating enough when I do eat or I am not eating foods that sustain me. I am trying to make a list of those foods that I like and that do sustain me for more than an hour. I have some that do a pretty good job. Almost always it is a protein along with a complex carb and some fat. But that doesn't always work. Like a salad even with protein in it doesn't seem to fit the bill. I am finding that too much salad or fruit is hard on my IBS too. Sandy

Sandy,

It sounds like you are doing just right! It's great that you fed yourself when hungry!

Why would you want to distract yourself from your hunger?

I think feeding yourself as soon as you can is really important, ESPECIALLY when starting IE. How else can your body learn that it's safe to trust you?

Also, of course, you are much more likely to stop before overly full if you are not ravenous when you start.

Tai, maybe you could try being a food anthroplogist! Try experimenting... there's no right or wrong answer. I have found "the sigh" (when you suddenly let out a big sigh while eating) to be a good indicator of when I'm full... but the problem is that I often then am hungry very soon thereafter, again. Not truly a problem, but sometimes inconvenient. So I often choose to ignore it for a few bites.

It's fun (and fine) to experiment!

Abby

> OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action -- but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I even think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now I'd like to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to nibble -- eat very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because eating can and should be a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to endure for a few minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need help here. Tai

[Guest guest]

Well, I guess I won't do my experiment. Because I notice that when I've really eaten "enough," I don't desire food for a few hours. And if I want to eat more now, I do, meaning if I am desirous of food soon after I've eaten, I eat and I don't fight with myself. When I stop desiring food to eat, I believe I've had enough. Does that make sense? I hope so, because I'm still working on listening to my body. What a wonderful thought -- to listen to your body! TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 2:12 PMSubject: Re: eating too fast

I read somewhere that at an IE retreat the people were asked to eat one strawberry and really fully experience it. After that they could chose what else they wanted. Today I was hungry and had a snack at 10am. At 11am I was so hungry I could have eaten cardboard. I had half a banana and some peanut butter because that usually fills me. At 12 I was so hungry I made a huge salad with tomatoes, lettuce, nuts, chicken, cheese, cucumber and oil and vinegar dressing. I had 2 pieces of sandwich thins toasted.(those are a new discovery for me and I really like them for sandwiches too. After 30 min. I was still hungry and not satisfied so I had some instant chocolate pudding. I was satisfied. Then I went grocery shopping and have been feeling ok. It's after 2 and I am starting to feel hungry again. A salad never did hold me long, even with all the protein in it. Am I misinterpreting what I feel as hunger when

it is something else? It sure feels like hunger in the pit of my stomach. If I go much longer without eating I am afraid I will bee so hungry I will overeat by a lot. Sometimes distraction helps for a while. Sandy

OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action -- but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I even think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now I'd like to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to nibble -- eat very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because eating can and should be a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to endure for a few minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need help here. Tai

[Guest guest]

I find it a tricky issue. But I do have to remember to use no judgment  and just notice the thoughts, etc. and say that's interesting.  Is it ok to eat every hour if I am hungry? Sandy

 

Well, I guess I won't do my experiment. Because I notice that when I've really eaten " enough, " I don't desire food for a few hours. And if I want to eat more now, I do, meaning if I am desirous of food soon after I've eaten, I eat and I don't fight with myself. When I stop desiring food to eat, I believe I've had enough. Does that make sense? I hope so, because I'm still working on listening to my body. What a wonderful thought -- to listen to your body! Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 2:12 PMSubject: Re: eating too fast

 

I read somewhere that at an IE retreat the people were asked to eat one strawberry and really fully experience it.  After that they could chose what else they wanted.  Today I was hungry and had a snack at 10am. At 11am I was so hungry I could have eaten cardboard.  I had half a banana and some peanut butter because that usually fills me.  At 12 I was so hungry I made a huge salad with tomatoes, lettuce, nuts, chicken, cheese, cucumber and oil and vinegar dressing.  I had 2 pieces of sandwich thins toasted.(those are a new discovery for me and I really like them for sandwiches too.  After 30 min. I was still hungry and not satisfied so I had some instant chocolate pudding. I was satisfied. Then I went grocery shopping and have been feeling ok. It's after 2 and I am starting to feel hungry again.  A salad never did hold me long, even with all the protein in it. Am I misinterpreting what I feel as hunger when

it is something else?   It sure feels like hunger in the pit of my stomach.  If I go much longer without eating I am afraid I will bee so hungry I will overeat by a lot.  Sometimes distraction helps for a while.  Sandy

 

OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action -- but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I even think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now I'd like to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to nibble -- eat very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because eating can and should be a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to endure for a few minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need help here. Tai

[Guest guest]

I find it a tricky issue. But I do have to remember to use no judgment  and just notice the thoughts, etc. and say that's interesting.  Is it ok to eat every hour if I am hungry? Sandy

 

Well, I guess I won't do my experiment. Because I notice that when I've really eaten " enough, " I don't desire food for a few hours. And if I want to eat more now, I do, meaning if I am desirous of food soon after I've eaten, I eat and I don't fight with myself. When I stop desiring food to eat, I believe I've had enough. Does that make sense? I hope so, because I'm still working on listening to my body. What a wonderful thought -- to listen to your body! Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 2:12 PMSubject: Re: eating too fast

 

I read somewhere that at an IE retreat the people were asked to eat one strawberry and really fully experience it.  After that they could chose what else they wanted.  Today I was hungry and had a snack at 10am. At 11am I was so hungry I could have eaten cardboard.  I had half a banana and some peanut butter because that usually fills me.  At 12 I was so hungry I made a huge salad with tomatoes, lettuce, nuts, chicken, cheese, cucumber and oil and vinegar dressing.  I had 2 pieces of sandwich thins toasted.(those are a new discovery for me and I really like them for sandwiches too.  After 30 min. I was still hungry and not satisfied so I had some instant chocolate pudding. I was satisfied. Then I went grocery shopping and have been feeling ok. It's after 2 and I am starting to feel hungry again.  A salad never did hold me long, even with all the protein in it. Am I misinterpreting what I feel as hunger when

it is something else?   It sure feels like hunger in the pit of my stomach.  If I go much longer without eating I am afraid I will bee so hungry I will overeat by a lot.  Sometimes distraction helps for a while.  Sandy

 

OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action -- but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I even think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now I'd like to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to nibble -- eat very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because eating can and should be a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to endure for a few minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need help here. Tai

[Guest guest]

Sandy, Here is a hunger scale written by a blogger that I found. Right now I'm at 7-8 because I just had dinner, and I feel a heaviness near my stomach, I'm a little uncomfortable but workable. I guess #3 would be when a person should be ready to eat -- I usually eat at a #4. How do you rate yourself? If you're eating every hour because you're hungry, would you say you're not eating enough to get you through the next few hours? I'm going to time myself now -- being that I feel slightly uncomfortable after eating, and I didn't eat too much, at least IMO, so I'll see when that urge comes for me to eat again. I have to be careful, though, because it's late and if I eat close to sleeptime, I get acid reflux all night, not a good feeling. Tai10:

OMG, I ate way too much, I think I might puke and then take a nap/Bloated and very uncomfortable

9: I ate too much/Very Full and a bit uncomfortable

8: I think I ate a few more bites than I needed/A Little too Full

7: I am content, I feel comfortably full; easily distracted from the food/The first sensation of food in my stomach; sometimes a second sigh

6: I am satisfied/most of the time a sigh

5: I am thinking of something other than food/I am neither hungry nor full/Neutral

4: mmmm…food, what do I want to eat/A sense of emptiness but still OK

3: I am hungry and ready to eat/Empty

2: I am pretty hungry/Starting to growl

1: I am starving, my only thought process is food/Growling non stop, I may feel a bit shaky and probably irritable

0: I would eat anything offered to me…anything/ravenous, primal hungerTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 8:08 PMSubject: Re: eating too fast

I find it a tricky issue. But I do have to remember to use no judgment and just notice the thoughts, etc. and say that's interesting. Is it ok to eat every hour if I am hungry? Sandy

Well, I guess I won't do my experiment. Because I notice that when I've really eaten "enough," I don't desire food for a few hours. And if I want to eat more now, I do, meaning if I am desirous of food soon after I've eaten, I eat and I don't fight with myself. When I stop desiring food to eat, I believe I've had enough. Does that make sense? I hope so, because I'm still working on listening to my body. What a wonderful thought -- to listen to your body! Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 2:12 PMSubject: Re: eating too fast

I read somewhere that at an IE retreat the people were asked to eat one strawberry and really fully experience it. After that they could chose what else they wanted. Today I was hungry and had a snack at 10am. At 11am I was so hungry I could have eaten cardboard. I had half a banana and some peanut butter because that usually fills me. At 12 I was so hungry I made a huge salad with tomatoes, lettuce, nuts, chicken, cheese, cucumber and oil and vinegar dressing. I had 2 pieces of sandwich thins toasted.(those are a new discovery for me and I really like them for sandwiches too. After 30 min. I was still hungry and not satisfied so I had some instant chocolate pudding. I was satisfied. Then I went grocery shopping and have been feeling ok. It's after 2 and I am starting to feel hungry again. A salad never did hold me long, even with all the protein in it. Am I misinterpreting what I feel as hunger when

it is something else? It sure feels like hunger in the pit of my stomach. If I go much longer without eating I am afraid I will bee so hungry I will overeat by a lot. Sometimes distraction helps for a while. Sandy

OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action -- but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I even think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now I'd like to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to nibble -- eat very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because eating can and should be a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to endure for a few minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need help here. Tai

[Guest guest]

Sandy, Here is a hunger scale written by a blogger that I found. Right now I'm at 7-8 because I just had dinner, and I feel a heaviness near my stomach, I'm a little uncomfortable but workable. I guess #3 would be when a person should be ready to eat -- I usually eat at a #4. How do you rate yourself? If you're eating every hour because you're hungry, would you say you're not eating enough to get you through the next few hours? I'm going to time myself now -- being that I feel slightly uncomfortable after eating, and I didn't eat too much, at least IMO, so I'll see when that urge comes for me to eat again. I have to be careful, though, because it's late and if I eat close to sleeptime, I get acid reflux all night, not a good feeling. Tai10:

OMG, I ate way too much, I think I might puke and then take a nap/Bloated and very uncomfortable

9: I ate too much/Very Full and a bit uncomfortable

8: I think I ate a few more bites than I needed/A Little too Full

7: I am content, I feel comfortably full; easily distracted from the food/The first sensation of food in my stomach; sometimes a second sigh

6: I am satisfied/most of the time a sigh

5: I am thinking of something other than food/I am neither hungry nor full/Neutral

4: mmmm…food, what do I want to eat/A sense of emptiness but still OK

3: I am hungry and ready to eat/Empty

2: I am pretty hungry/Starting to growl

1: I am starving, my only thought process is food/Growling non stop, I may feel a bit shaky and probably irritable

0: I would eat anything offered to me…anything/ravenous, primal hungerTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 8:08 PMSubject: Re: eating too fast

I find it a tricky issue. But I do have to remember to use no judgment and just notice the thoughts, etc. and say that's interesting. Is it ok to eat every hour if I am hungry? Sandy

Well, I guess I won't do my experiment. Because I notice that when I've really eaten "enough," I don't desire food for a few hours. And if I want to eat more now, I do, meaning if I am desirous of food soon after I've eaten, I eat and I don't fight with myself. When I stop desiring food to eat, I believe I've had enough. Does that make sense? I hope so, because I'm still working on listening to my body. What a wonderful thought -- to listen to your body! Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 2:12 PMSubject: Re: eating too fast

I read somewhere that at an IE retreat the people were asked to eat one strawberry and really fully experience it. After that they could chose what else they wanted. Today I was hungry and had a snack at 10am. At 11am I was so hungry I could have eaten cardboard. I had half a banana and some peanut butter because that usually fills me. At 12 I was so hungry I made a huge salad with tomatoes, lettuce, nuts, chicken, cheese, cucumber and oil and vinegar dressing. I had 2 pieces of sandwich thins toasted.(those are a new discovery for me and I really like them for sandwiches too. After 30 min. I was still hungry and not satisfied so I had some instant chocolate pudding. I was satisfied. Then I went grocery shopping and have been feeling ok. It's after 2 and I am starting to feel hungry again. A salad never did hold me long, even with all the protein in it. Am I misinterpreting what I feel as hunger when

it is something else? It sure feels like hunger in the pit of my stomach. If I go much longer without eating I am afraid I will bee so hungry I will overeat by a lot. Sometimes distraction helps for a while. Sandy

OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action -- but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I even think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now I'd like to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to nibble -- eat very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because eating can and should be a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to endure for a few minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need help here. Tai

[Guest guest]

I usually eat when I am at 4 and when I am done it is usually a 6.  3 is too hungry for me and over eat.  5 is usually not enough and I don't think I get to 7 very often because I feel uncomfortable.  I too can not eat near bed time because of reflux. I am on medication and sometimes take tums at night.  I always sleep with my head elevated either on several pillows in bed , or on my sofa with extra pillows.  I can semi prop myself up on the arm of the sofa.  I was thinking today that I probably didn't eat enough if I was hungry in an hour.  Also I think I would do better with choices that sustain me longer.  I was just going over the Fullness scale in the IE book.  I need to re-read so much of this book and I also have the audio CD. Right now I'm just going to give myself permission to put this subject to rest for the night.  I really appreciate all the input. I also have been focusing on exercise and activity.  If the smoke from all the fires clears tomorrow morning we are going swimming.  Today I walked in the store.  I go up and down every aisle in the grocery store just to walk, not shop.  Sandy

 

Sandy, Here is a hunger scale written by a blogger that I found. Right now I'm at 7-8 because I just had dinner, and I feel a heaviness near my stomach, I'm a little uncomfortable but workable. I guess #3 would be when a person should be ready to eat -- I usually eat at a #4. How do you rate yourself? If you're eating every hour because you're hungry, would you say you're not eating enough to get you through the next few hours? I'm going to time myself now -- being that I feel slightly uncomfortable after eating, and I didn't eat too much, at least IMO, so I'll see when that urge comes for me to eat again. I have to be careful, though, because it's late and if I eat close to sleeptime, I get acid reflux all night, not a good feeling. Tai

10:

OMG, I ate way too much, I think I might puke and then take a nap/Bloated and very uncomfortable

9: I ate too much/Very Full and a bit uncomfortable

8: I think I ate a few more bites than I needed/A Little too Full

7: I am content, I feel comfortably full; easily distracted from the food/The first sensation of food in my stomach; sometimes a second sigh

6: I am satisfied/most of the time a sigh

5: I am thinking of something other than food/I am neither hungry nor full/Neutral

4: mmmm…food, what do I want to eat/A sense of emptiness but still OK

3: I am hungry and ready to eat/Empty

2: I am pretty hungry/Starting to growl

1: I am starving, my only thought process is food/Growling non stop, I may feel a bit shaky and probably irritable

0: I would eat anything offered to me…anything/ravenous, primal hunger

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 8:08 PMSubject: Re: eating too fast

 

I find it a tricky issue. But I do have to remember to use no judgment  and just notice the thoughts, etc. and say that's interesting.  Is it ok to eat every hour if I am hungry? Sandy

 

Well, I guess I won't do my experiment. Because I notice that when I've really eaten " enough, " I don't desire food for a few hours. And if I want to eat more now, I do, meaning if I am desirous of food soon after I've eaten, I eat and I don't fight with myself. When I stop desiring food to eat, I believe I've had enough. Does that make sense? I hope so, because I'm still working on listening to my body. What a wonderful thought -- to listen to your body! Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 2:12 PMSubject: Re: eating too fast

 

I read somewhere that at an IE retreat the people were asked to eat one strawberry and really fully experience it.  After that they could chose what else they wanted.  Today I was hungry and had a snack at 10am. At 11am I was so hungry I could have eaten cardboard.  I had half a banana and some peanut butter because that usually fills me.  At 12 I was so hungry I made a huge salad with tomatoes, lettuce, nuts, chicken, cheese, cucumber and oil and vinegar dressing.  I had 2 pieces of sandwich thins toasted.(those are a new discovery for me and I really like them for sandwiches too.  After 30 min. I was still hungry and not satisfied so I had some instant chocolate pudding. I was satisfied. Then I went grocery shopping and have been feeling ok. It's after 2 and I am starting to feel hungry again.  A salad never did hold me long, even with all the protein in it. Am I misinterpreting what I feel as hunger when

it is something else?   It sure feels like hunger in the pit of my stomach.  If I go much longer without eating I am afraid I will bee so hungry I will overeat by a lot.  Sometimes distraction helps for a while.  Sandy

 

OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action -- but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I even think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now I'd like to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to nibble -- eat very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because eating can and should be a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to endure for a few minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need help here. Tai

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> > > OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action --

> > but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I

> > even think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now

> > I'd like to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to

> > nibble -- eat very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because

> > eating can and should be a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to

> > endure for a few minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need

> > help here. Tai

> >

> >

>

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Sorry about just accidentally posting a blank post!

I agree wholeheartedly with the suggestion of experimenting. I definitely have

learned a lot in recent weeks about needing to eat more to stay full longer and

what kinds of foods satisfy me for longer. I'm sure for some folks it works to

eat smaller amounts and much more often, but since I find it works better for me

in many ways to most days have three meals and two snacks, I've needed to figure

out what foods and how much, works for my body. I've learned a lot about this

already, tho' am still learning.

I'm also experimenting with small amounts of time of eating without distraction,

and guess what - when I do that, I also find I slow way down. It might seem

obvious that those two things would be connected and I'm sure I've read it, but

it was a whole different thing to really feel it! Yesterday I had a big salad

for lunch with veggies and some shrimp and cheese in it, and a whole wheat

raisin roll. I ate about 1/2 the salad with no distraction (this is huge for

me!) and found I really liked the taste of some of the veggies even more than I

thought I did, and really wanted very little dressing not because of any

" shoulds " about dressing amounts, but because I didn't want to mask the flavor

of these wonderful veggies! I don't know if I can sustain that - but any and

every learning moment like that is a gift to me.

> > > OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action --

> > but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I

> > even think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now

> > I'd like to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to

> > nibble -- eat very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because

> > eating can and should be a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to

> > endure for a few minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need

> > help here. Tai

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Maybe adding some more fat to your salad with protein? Nuts, avocado, more salad dressing, cheese, etc?

Keep on experimenting... and keep on feeding yourself when you are hungry!

Let us know what you discover!

Best,

Abby

> If I ate every time I was hungry I'd be eating every hour. That says to me

> that perhaps I am not eating enough when I do eat or I am not eating foods> that sustain me. I am trying to make a list of those foods that I like and> that do sustain me for more than an hour. I have some that do a pretty good

> job. Almost always it is a protein along with a complex carb and some fat.> But that doesn't always work. Like a salad even with protein in it doesn't> seem to fit the bill. I am finding that too much salad or fruit is hard on

> my IBS too. Sandy> > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Abigail Wolfson> wrote:> >>

>>

>> Sandy,>>>> It sounds like you are doing just right! It's great that you fed yourself>> when hungry!>>>> Why would you want to distract yourself from your hunger?

>>>> I think feeding yourself as soon as you can is really important, ESPECIALLY>> when starting IE. How else can your body learn that it's safe to trust you?>>>> Also, of course, you are much more likely to stop before overly full if you

>> are not ravenous when you start.>>>> Tai, maybe you could try being a food anthroplogist! Try experimenting...>> there's no right or wrong answer. I have found " the sigh " (when you suddenly

>> let out a big sigh while eating) to be a good indicator of when I'm full...>> but the problem is that I often then am hungry very soon thereafter, again.>> Not truly a problem, but sometimes inconvenient. So I often choose to ignore

>> it for a few bites.>>>> It's fun (and fine) to experiment!>>>> Abby>>

>> > OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action -->> but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I>> even think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now

>> I'd like to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to>> nibble -- eat very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because>> eating can and should be a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to

>> endure for a few minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need>> help here. Tai>> >>

[Guest guest]

There was a recent study published in the newspaper that olive oil may prevent strokes in the elderly population. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 11:17 AMSubject: Re: eating too fast

Maybe adding some more fat to your salad with protein? Nuts, avocado, more salad dressing, cheese, etc?

Keep on experimenting... and keep on feeding yourself when you are hungry!

Let us know what you discover!

Best,Abby

> If I ate every time I was hungry I'd be eating every hour. That says to me> that perhaps I am not eating enough when I do eat or I am not eating foods> that sustain me. I am trying to make a list of those foods that I like and> that do sustain me for more than an hour. I have some that do a pretty good> job. Almost always it is a protein along with a complex carb and some fat.> But that doesn't always work. Like a salad even with protein in it doesn't> seem to fit the bill. I am finding that too much salad or fruit is hard on> my IBS too. Sandy> > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Abigail Wolfson> wrote:> >>>>>> Sandy,>>>> It sounds like you are doing just right! It's great that you fed yourself>> when hungry!>>>> Why would you want to distract yourself from your hunger?>>>> I think feeding yourself as soon as you can is really important, ESPECIALLY>> when starting IE. How else can your body learn that it's safe to trust you?>>>> Also, of course, you are much more likely to stop before overly full if you>> are not ravenous when you start.>>>> Tai, maybe you could try being a food anthroplogist! Try experimenting...>> there's no right or wrong answer. I have found "the sigh" (when you suddenly>> let out a big sigh while eating) to be a good indicator of when I'm

full...>> but the problem is that I often then am hungry very soon thereafter, again.>> Not truly a problem, but sometimes inconvenient. So I often choose to ignore>> it for a few bites.>>>> It's fun (and fine) to experiment!>>>> Abby>> >> > OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action -->> but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I>> even think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now>> I'd like to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to>> nibble -- eat very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because>> eating can and should be

a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to>> endure for a few minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need>> help here. Tai>> >>

[Guest guest]

This is very useful, Tai! I'm probably eating between 3-1, which explains my

issues with portion control and eating too fast. Thanks for sharing!

> >

> > 

> >>OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action -- but

here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I even think

I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now I'd like to hear

from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to nibble -- eat very, very

slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because eating can and should be a

pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to endure for a few minutes rather than

a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need help here. Tai

> >>

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Salads, no matter how good, only last about 1½ hours for me and then I'm starving again, no matter how much fat or protien was in them. I love them but I know I'm going to be eating again soon if I choose a salad for lunch.

Sunny

Re: eating too fast

If I ate every time I was hungry I'd be eating every hour. That says to me that perhaps I am not eating enough when I do eat or I am not eating foods that sustain me. I am trying to make a list of those foods that I like and that do sustain me for more than an hour. I have some that do a pretty good job. Almost always it is a protein along with a complex carb and some fat. But that doesn't always work. Like a salad even with protein in it doesn't seem to fit the bill. I am finding that too much salad or fruit is hard on my IBS too. Sandy

Sandy,

It sounds like you are doing just right! It's great that you fed yourself when hungry!

Why would you want to distract yourself from your hunger?

I think feeding yourself as soon as you can is really important, ESPECIALLY when starting IE. How else can your body learn that it's safe to trust you?

Also, of course, you are much more likely to stop before overly full if you are not ravenous when you start.

Tai, maybe you could try being a food anthroplogist! Try experimenting... there's no right or wrong answer. I have found "the sigh" (when you suddenly let out a big sigh while eating) to be a good indicator of when I'm full... but the problem is that I often then am hungry very soon thereafter, again. Not truly a problem, but sometimes inconvenient. So I often choose to ignore it for a few bites.

It's fun (and fine) to experiment!

Abby

> OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action -- but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I even think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now I'd like to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to nibble -- eat very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because eating can and should be a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to endure for a few minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need help here. Tai

[Guest guest]

Me too.  Don't know why.  Maybe because there is no bread?  I could have a nice roll I guess. Any one got a idea?  Sandy

 

Salads, no matter how good, only last about 1½ hours for me and then I'm starving again, no matter how much fat or protien was in them.  I love them but I know I'm going to be eating again soon if I choose a salad for lunch.

 

Sunny

Re: eating too fast

If I ate every time I was hungry I'd be eating every hour.   That says to me that perhaps I am not eating enough when I do eat or I am not eating foods that sustain me.  I am trying to make a list of those foods that I like and that do sustain me for more than an hour.  I have some that do a pretty good job.  Almost always it is a protein along with a complex carb and some fat.  But that doesn't always work.  Like a salad even with protein in it doesn't seem to fit the bill. I am finding that too much salad or fruit is hard on my IBS too.  Sandy

 

Sandy,

It sounds like you are doing just right! It's great that you fed yourself when hungry!

Why would you want to distract yourself from your hunger?

I think feeding yourself as soon as you can is really important, ESPECIALLY when starting IE. How else can your body learn that it's safe to trust you?

Also, of course, you are much more likely to stop before overly full if you are not ravenous when you start.

Tai, maybe you could try being a food anthroplogist! Try experimenting... there's no right or wrong answer. I have found " the sigh " (when you suddenly let out a big sigh while eating) to be a good indicator of when I'm full... but the problem is that I often then am hungry very soon thereafter, again. Not truly a problem, but sometimes inconvenient. So I often choose to ignore it for a few bites.

It's fun (and fine) to experiment!

Abby

> OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action -- but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I even think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now I'd like to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to nibble -- eat very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because eating can and should be a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to endure for a few minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need help here. Tai

[Guest guest]

Salads are really low in calories, which is why they are a favorite of dieters. Why not have a more substantial entree and include a side salad for nutrients? A little whole grain bread might keep your hunger at bay, too.

Me too. Don't know why. Maybe because there is no bread? I could have a nice roll I guess. Any one got a idea? Sandy

Salads, no matter how good, only last about 1½ hours for me and then I'm starving again, no matter how much fat or protien was in them. I love them but I know I'm going to be eating again soon if I choose a salad for lunch.

Sunny

Re: eating too fast

If I ate every time I was hungry I'd be eating every hour. That says to me that perhaps I am not eating enough when I do eat or I am not eating foods that sustain me. I am trying to make a list of those foods that I like and that do sustain me for more than an hour. I have some that do a pretty good job. Almost always it is a protein along with a complex carb and some fat. But that doesn't always work. Like a salad even with protein in it doesn't seem to fit the bill. I am finding that too much salad or fruit is hard on my IBS too. Sandy

Sandy,

It sounds like you are doing just right! It's great that you fed yourself when hungry!

Why would you want to distract yourself from your hunger?

I think feeding yourself as soon as you can is really important, ESPECIALLY when starting IE. How else can your body learn that it's safe to trust you?

Also, of course, you are much more likely to stop before overly full if you are not ravenous when you start.

Tai, maybe you could try being a food anthroplogist! Try experimenting... there's no right or wrong answer. I have found "the sigh" (when you suddenly let out a big sigh while eating) to be a good indicator of when I'm full... but the problem is that I often then am hungry very soon thereafter, again. Not truly a problem, but sometimes inconvenient. So I often choose to ignore it for a few bites.

It's fun (and fine) to experiment!

Abby

> OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action -- but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I even think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now I'd like to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to nibble -- eat very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because eating can and should be a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to endure for a few minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need help here. Tai

[Guest guest]

My salads are pretty substantial.  I use

avocado, kalamati olives, feta, tomatoes, Bolthouse Ranch dressing and usually ½

can of tuna, sometimes sliced ham or a chicken breast (I make a bunch at a time

and freeze them.)  They last me quite awhile.  I use a Big bowl.

Kate

From: IntuitiveEating_Support [mailto:IntuitiveEating_Support ] On Behalf Of Beaulieu

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:02

PM

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Subject: Re:

eating too fast

Me too. Don't know why. Maybe because

there is no bread? I could have a nice roll I guess. Any one got a

idea? Sandy

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 6:52 PM,

wrote:

Salads,

no matter how good, only last about 1½ hours for me and then I'm starving

again, no matter how much fat or protien was in them. I love them but I

know I'm going to be eating again soon if I choose a salad for lunch.

Sunny

Re: eating too fast

If I ate every time I was hungry I'd be eating every hour. That

says to me that perhaps I am not eating enough when I do eat or I am not eating

foods that sustain me. I am trying to make a list of those foods that I

like and that do sustain me for more than an hour. I have some that do a

pretty good job. Almost always it is a protein along with a complex carb

and some fat. But that doesn't always work. Like a salad even with

protein in it doesn't seem to fit the bill. I am finding that too much salad or

fruit is hard on my IBS too. Sandy

On Wed,

Jun 15, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Abigail Wolfson

wrote:

Sandy,

It

sounds like you are doing just right! It's great that you fed yourself when

hungry!

Why

would you want to distract yourself from your hunger?

I think

feeding yourself as soon as you can is really important, ESPECIALLY when

starting IE. How else can your body learn that it's safe to trust you?

Also,

of course, you are much more likely to stop before overly full if you are not

ravenous when you start.

Tai,

maybe you could try being a food anthroplogist! Try experimenting... there's no

right or wrong answer. I have found " the sigh " (when you suddenly let

out a big sigh while eating) to be a good indicator of when I'm full... but the

problem is that I often then am hungry very soon thereafter, again. Not truly a

problem, but sometimes inconvenient. So I often choose to ignore it for a few

bites.

It's

fun (and fine) to experiment!

Abby

On Jun

15, 2011 1:57 PM, " Tailyn Grey "

wrote:

> OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action --

but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I even

think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now I'd like

to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to nibble -- eat

very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because eating can and

should be a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to endure for a few

minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need help here. Tai

[Guest guest]

I'm sure it's different for everyone but for me, I definitely need to eat a

whole wheat roll of some sort with my salad, to feel satisfied and for it to

last a while. Lately I've been having a whole wheat raisin roll when I have

salad, yum! Often I have a handful of nuts separate from the salad, too, for

some reason I feel more satisfied by that than when the nuts are in the salad,

no idea why but it's what I've noticed.

> >> > OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action --

> >> but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I

> >> even think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now

> >> I'd like to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to

> >> nibble -- eat very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because

> >> eating can and should be a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to

> >> endure for a few minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I

need

> >> help here. Tai

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Yes. What are you putting "on" your salad? I'm currently using olive oil dressing with feta cheese (a bit salty, I know) and Greek style olives (also salty), but I think it's the olive oil + vinegar, etc. that keeps me feeling OK for a few hours. But it's a huge salad with greens, I try to use just a little feta & a few olives. Not many.

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 7:02 PMSubject: Re: eating too fast

Me too. Don't know why. Maybe because there is no bread? I could have a nice roll I guess. Any one got a idea? Sandy

Salads, no matter how good, only last about 1½ hours for me and then I'm starving again, no matter how much fat or protien was in them. I love them but I know I'm going to be eating again soon if I choose a salad for lunch.

Sunny

Re: eating too fast

If I ate every time I was hungry I'd be eating every hour. That says to me that perhaps I am not eating enough when I do eat or I am not eating foods that sustain me. I am trying to make a list of those foods that I like and that do sustain me for more than an hour. I have some that do a pretty good job. Almost always it is a protein along with a complex carb and some fat. But that doesn't always work. Like a salad even with protein in it doesn't seem to fit the bill. I am finding that too much salad or fruit is hard on my IBS too. Sandy

Sandy,

It sounds like you are doing just right! It's great that you fed yourself when hungry!

Why would you want to distract yourself from your hunger?

I think feeding yourself as soon as you can is really important, ESPECIALLY when starting IE. How else can your body learn that it's safe to trust you?

Also, of course, you are much more likely to stop before overly full if you are not ravenous when you start.

Tai, maybe you could try being a food anthroplogist! Try experimenting... there's no right or wrong answer. I have found "the sigh" (when you suddenly let out a big sigh while eating) to be a good indicator of when I'm full... but the problem is that I often then am hungry very soon thereafter, again. Not truly a problem, but sometimes inconvenient. So I often choose to ignore it for a few bites.

It's fun (and fine) to experiment!

Abby

> OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action -- but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I even think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now I'd like to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to nibble -- eat very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because eating can and should be a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to endure for a few minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need help here. Tai

[Guest guest]

I thank you for suggestions and I think you are right.  Because I love salads and don't completely think of them as diet foods, and because I add protein, I was thinking they were complete.  I do seem to be full and satisfied but get hungry real fast. Sandy

 

Salads are really low in calories, which is why they are a favorite of dieters. Why not have a more substantial entree and include a side salad for nutrients? A little whole grain bread might keep your hunger at bay, too.

 

Me too.  Don't know why.  Maybe because there is no bread?  I could have a nice roll I guess. Any one got a idea?  Sandy

 

Salads, no matter how good, only last about 1½ hours for me and then I'm starving again, no matter how much fat or protien was in them.  I love them but I know I'm going to be eating again soon if I choose a salad for lunch.

 

Sunny

Re: eating too fast

If I ate every time I was hungry I'd be eating every hour.   That says to me that perhaps I am not eating enough when I do eat or I am not eating foods that sustain me.  I am trying to make a list of those foods that I like and that do sustain me for more than an hour.  I have some that do a pretty good job.  Almost always it is a protein along with a complex carb and some fat.  But that doesn't always work.  Like a salad even with protein in it doesn't seem to fit the bill. I am finding that too much salad or fruit is hard on my IBS too.  Sandy

 

Sandy,

It sounds like you are doing just right! It's great that you fed yourself when hungry!

Why would you want to distract yourself from your hunger?

I think feeding yourself as soon as you can is really important, ESPECIALLY when starting IE. How else can your body learn that it's safe to trust you?

Also, of course, you are much more likely to stop before overly full if you are not ravenous when you start.

Tai, maybe you could try being a food anthroplogist! Try experimenting... there's no right or wrong answer. I have found " the sigh " (when you suddenly let out a big sigh while eating) to be a good indicator of when I'm full... but the problem is that I often then am hungry very soon thereafter, again. Not truly a problem, but sometimes inconvenient. So I often choose to ignore it for a few bites.

It's fun (and fine) to experiment!

Abby

> OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action -- but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I even think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now I'd like to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to nibble -- eat very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because eating can and should be a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to endure for a few minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need help here. Tai

[Guest guest]

Hi. I was thinking today after reading about someone on Yahoo who saves money by not eating dinner, that we are programmed to eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Plus, of course, snacks for most people. This young lady says she saves money and is losing weight by reversing her meals and cutting out dinner unless she is very hungry at night. She says she eats a substantial breakfast, a fairly large lunch, and nothing for dinner except juice when she may be very hungry. This was for her to save money but she says she is losing weight as well. She gets her lunch free at work, but the concept is interesting about having a huge breakfast, and getting smaller from there. I think it flies in the face of IE, though, but I notice that days like today I did not wake up hungry and so a

cup of coffee will do, for a while, until I get hungry enough to eat. But the thought is interesting -- to start your day with a big meal (I've seen nutritionists say this before), and diminish the amount at each meal as the days wears down. I'd like to hear people's thoughts about this. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 7:51 AMSubject: Re: eating too fast

I thank you for suggestions and I think you are right. Because I love salads and don't completely think of them as diet foods, and because I add protein, I was thinking they were complete. I do seem to be full and satisfied but get hungry real fast. Sandy

Salads are really low in calories, which is why they are a favorite of dieters. Why not have a more substantial entree and include a side salad for nutrients? A little whole grain bread might keep your hunger at bay, too.

Me too. Don't know why. Maybe because there is no bread? I could have a nice roll I guess. Any one got a idea? Sandy

Salads, no matter how good, only last about 1½ hours for me and then I'm starving again, no matter how much fat or protien was in them. I love them but I know I'm going to be eating again soon if I choose a salad for lunch.

Sunny

Re: eating too fast

If I ate every time I was hungry I'd be eating every hour. That says to me that perhaps I am not eating enough when I do eat or I am not eating foods that sustain me. I am trying to make a list of those foods that I like and that do sustain me for more than an hour. I have some that do a pretty good job. Almost always it is a protein along with a complex carb and some fat. But that doesn't always work. Like a salad even with protein in it doesn't seem to fit the bill. I am finding that too much salad or fruit is hard on my IBS too. Sandy

Sandy,

It sounds like you are doing just right! It's great that you fed yourself when hungry!

Why would you want to distract yourself from your hunger?

I think feeding yourself as soon as you can is really important, ESPECIALLY when starting IE. How else can your body learn that it's safe to trust you?

Also, of course, you are much more likely to stop before overly full if you are not ravenous when you start.

Tai, maybe you could try being a food anthroplogist! Try experimenting... there's no right or wrong answer. I have found "the sigh" (when you suddenly let out a big sigh while eating) to be a good indicator of when I'm full... but the problem is that I often then am hungry very soon thereafter, again. Not truly a problem, but sometimes inconvenient. So I often choose to ignore it for a few bites.

It's fun (and fine) to experiment!

Abby

> OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action -- but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I even think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now I'd like to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to nibble -- eat very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because eating can and should be a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to endure for a few minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need help here. Tai

[Guest guest]

Tai,

This happened to me quite by accident since starting IE... after years of trying to make myself not snack at night! But I think as I got used to feeding myself adequately in the morning (and this was KEY... I was very used to being a little bit hungry during the day prior to IE), my hunger naturally dropped off throughout the day. Eventually it got to the point where I wanted a " snack " when I got home from work, around 5, and then found I didn't want any dinner after that.

It has taken a lot of getting used to, especially with making plans to go out to dinner. I find I eat a lot more on those days... and still wake up wanting a big breakfast the next day.

This pattern has continued and even intensified during my pregnancy, only in the last few weeks I've needed to add a bedtime snack -- typically a kashi whole grain cookie (I love the oatmeal with dark chocolate chips) and a small glass of whole milk. Otherwise I can't fall asleep.

I don't think this plan is ideal by any means... I miss out on a lot of opportunities for protein and vegetables, which is especially not ideal during pregnancy. I've compromised by making smoothies with milk, protein powder, coconut oil, and frozen fruit.

So that's been my experience.

Best,

Abby

IE since 11/08, and 33 weeks pregnant

> Hi. I was thinking today after reading about someone on Yahoo who saves money by not eating dinner, that we are programmed to eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Plus, of course, snacks for most people. This young lady says she saves money and is losing weight by reversing her meals and cutting out dinner unless she is very hungry at night. She says she eats a substantial breakfast, a fairly large lunch, and nothing for dinner except juice when she may be very hungry. This was for her to save money but she says she is losing weight as well. She gets her lunch free at work, but the concept is interesting about having a huge breakfast, and getting smaller from there. I think it flies in the face of IE, though, but I notice that days like today I did not wake up hungry and so a cup of coffee will do, for a while, until I get hungry enough to eat. But the thought is interesting -- to start your day with a big meal (I've seen nutritionists say this before),

> and diminish the amount at each meal as the days wears down. I'd like to hear people's thoughts about this. Tai> > >

> To: IntuitiveEating_Support > Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 7:51 AM> Subject: Re: eating too fast

> > >   > I thank you for suggestions and I think you are right.  Because I love salads and don't completely think of them as diet foods, and because I add protein, I was thinking they were complete.  I do seem to be full and satisfied but get hungry real fast. Sandy

> > > > >   >>Salads are really low in calories, which is why they are a favorite of dieters. Why not have a more substantial entree and include a side salad for nutrients? A little whole grain bread might keep your hunger at bay, too.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>  >>>Me too.  Don't know why.  Maybe because there is no bread?  I could have a nice roll I guess. Any one got a idea?  Sandy

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  >>>>Salads, no matter how good, only last about 1½ hours for me and then I'm starving again, no matter how much fat or protien was in them.  I love them but I know I'm going to be eating again soon if I choose a salad for lunch.

>>>>>>>>Sunny>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Re: eating too fast

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If I ate every time I was hungry I'd be eating every hour.   That says to me that perhaps I am not eating enough when I do eat or I am not eating foods that sustain me.  I am trying to make a list of those foods that I like and that do sustain me for more than an hour.  I have some that do a pretty good job.  Almost always it is a protein along with a complex carb and some fat.  But that doesn't always work.  Like a salad even with protein in it doesn't seem to fit the bill. I am finding that too much salad or fruit is hard on my IBS too.  Sandy

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>> 

>>>>>Sandy,>>>>>It sounds like you are doing just right! It's great that you fed yourself when hungry!>>>>>Why would you want to distract yourself from your hunger?

>>>>>I think feeding yourself as soon as you can is really important, ESPECIALLY when starting IE. How else can your body learn that it's safe to trust you? >>>>>Also, of course, you are much more likely to stop before overly full if you are not ravenous when you start.

>>>>>Tai, maybe you could try being a food anthroplogist! Try experimenting... there's no right or wrong answer. I have found " the sigh " (when you suddenly let out a big sigh while eating) to be a good indicator of when I'm full... but the problem is that I often then am hungry very soon thereafter, again. Not truly a problem, but sometimes inconvenient. So I often choose to ignore it for a few bites.

>>>>>It's fun (and fine) to experiment!>>>>>Abby>>>>>

>>>>>> OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action -- but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I even think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now I'd like to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to nibble -- eat very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because eating can and should be a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to endure for a few minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need help here. Tai

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Abby. It sounds like you're doing very well. You're pregnant? Hope everything is going well for you.

Today I did not eat breakfast because I was not hungry but I decided to eat a substantial meal for my first meal. So I did. I went out for chicken, rice and beans (not my first thought, but that's what I decided on) and they give a tremendous amount in this restaurant. However, my eyes were, as they say, bigger than my stomach, and so I also bought a piece of cake that looked very good. I got halfway through the meal and I decided I was full. No cake for me, even though I bought it. For some reason, the taste of that meal lingered with me after we left the restaurant and i was dying to get home to finish the remainder. So I did. The cake is still there, I'm not touching it because I'm simply not hungry enough for it. Perhaps before the day is over, I will need more food, and so I may have a cup of tea with a bit of that delicious looking cake. I don't think I can have milk before I go to sleep because I

will collect residue in my throat during the night and it disturbs my sleep when I eat too much just before I go to sleep. Not sure if that means milk, but at this point, dairy and sugar frighten me if I eat it just before I retire. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 2:18 PMSubject: Re: eating too fast

Tai,

This happened to me quite by accident since starting IE... after years of trying to make myself not snack at night! But I think as I got used to feeding myself adequately in the morning (and this was KEY... I was very used to being a little bit hungry during the day prior to IE), my hunger naturally dropped off throughout the day. Eventually it got to the point where I wanted a "snack" when I got home from work, around 5, and then found I didn't want any dinner after that.

It has taken a lot of getting used to, especially with making plans to go out to dinner. I find I eat a lot more on those days... and still wake up wanting a big breakfast the next day.

This pattern has continued and even intensified during my pregnancy, only in the last few weeks I've needed to add a bedtime snack -- typically a kashi whole grain cookie (I love the oatmeal with dark chocolate chips) and a small glass of whole milk. Otherwise I can't fall asleep.

I don't think this plan is ideal by any means... I miss out on a lot of opportunities for protein and vegetables, which is especially not ideal during pregnancy. I've compromised by making smoothies with milk, protein powder, coconut oil, and frozen fruit.

So that's been my experience.

Best,

AbbyIE since 11/08, and 33 weeks pregnant

> Hi. I was thinking today after reading about someone on Yahoo who saves money by not eating dinner, that we are programmed to eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Plus, of course, snacks for most people. This young lady says she saves money and is losing weight by reversing her meals and cutting out dinner unless she is very hungry at night. She says she eats a substantial breakfast, a fairly large lunch, and nothing for dinner except juice when she may be very hungry. This was for her to save money but she says she is losing weight as well. She gets her lunch free at work, but the concept is interesting about having a huge breakfast, and getting smaller from there. I think it flies in the face of IE, though, but I notice that

days like today I did not wake up hungry and so a cup of coffee will do, for a while, until I get hungry enough to eat. But the thought is interesting -- to start your day with a big meal (I've seen nutritionists say this before),> and diminish the amount at each meal as the days wears down. I'd like to hear people's thoughts about this. Tai> > > > To: IntuitiveEating_Support > Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 7:51 AM> Subject: Re: eating too fast> > > > I thank you for suggestions and I think you are right. Because I love salads

and don't completely think of them as diet foods, and because I add protein, I was thinking they were complete. I do seem to be full and satisfied but get hungry real fast. Sandy> > > > > >>Salads are really low in calories, which is why they are a favorite of dieters. Why not have a more substantial entree and include a side salad for nutrients? A little whole grain bread might keep your hunger at bay, too.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>Me

too. Don't know why. Maybe because there is no bread? I could have a nice roll I guess. Any one got a idea? Sandy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>Salads, no matter how good, only last about 1½ hours for me and then I'm starving again, no matter how much fat or protien was in them. I love them but I know I'm going to be eating again soon if I choose a salad for lunch.>>>>>>>>Sunny>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Re: eating too fast>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If I ate every time I was hungry I'd be eating every hour. That says to me that perhaps I am not eating enough when I do eat or I am not eating foods that sustain me. I am trying to make a list of those foods that I like and that do sustain me for more than an hour. I have some that do a pretty good job. Almost always it is a protein along with a complex carb and some fat. But that doesn't always

work. Like a salad even with protein in it doesn't seem to fit the bill. I am finding that too much salad or fruit is hard on my IBS too. Sandy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>Sandy,>>>>>It sounds like you are doing just right! It's great that you fed yourself when hungry!>>>>>Why would you want to distract yourself from your hunger?>>>>>I think feeding yourself as soon as you can is really important, ESPECIALLY when starting IE. How else can your body learn that it's safe to trust you? >>>>>Also, of course, you are much more likely to stop before overly full if you

are not ravenous when you start.>>>>>Tai, maybe you could try being a food anthroplogist! Try experimenting... there's no right or wrong answer. I have found "the sigh" (when you suddenly let out a big sigh while eating) to be a good indicator of when I'm full... but the problem is that I often then am hungry very soon thereafter, again. Not truly a problem, but sometimes inconvenient. So I often choose to ignore it for a few bites.>>>>>It's fun (and fine) to experiment!>>>>>Abby>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action -- but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I even think I'm full. That might happen after

two bites, sadly to say. Now I'd like to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to nibble -- eat very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because eating can and should be a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to endure for a few minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need help here. Tai>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>