Re: eating too fast

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Hi all, I'm new to the group and have been watching the messages for a few days. But something came up so I thought I'd write. I've been following this way of eating for about 6 weeks. I am having a problem of what to do if i get hungry in the middle of the night. I've never been a middle of the night eater, and if i go to bed full, then i feel terrible all night. But I don't want to disturb my sleep by getting up if I'm hungry. It's a dilemma. I'm not ignoring my hunger, in this case out of diet mentality, but from the need to sleep, which is a pain sometimes.

From: Tailyn GreySent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 3:00 PMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: eating too fast

Hi, Abby. It sounds like you're doing very well. You're pregnant? Hope everything is going well for you.

Today I did not eat breakfast because I was not hungry but I decided to eat a substantial meal for my first meal. So I did. I went out for chicken, rice and beans (not my first thought, but that's what I decided on) and they give a tremendous amount in this restaurant. However, my eyes were, as they say, bigger than my stomach, and so I also bought a piece of cake that looked very good. I got halfway through the meal and I decided I was full. No cake for me, even though I bought it. For some reason, the taste of that meal lingered with me after we left the restaurant and i was dying to get home to finish the remainder. So I did. The cake is still there, I'm not touching it because I'm simply not hungry enough for it. Perhaps before the day is over, I will need more food, and so I may have a cup of tea with a bit of that delicious looking cake. I don't think I can have milk before I go to sleep because I will collect residue in my throat during the night and it disturbs my sleep when I eat too much just before I go to sleep. Not sure if that means milk, but at this point, dairy and sugar frighten me if I eat it just before I retire. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 2:18 PMSubject: Re: eating too fast

Tai,

This happened to me quite by accident since starting IE... after years of trying to make myself not snack at night! But I think as I got used to feeding myself adequately in the morning (and this was KEY... I was very used to being a little bit hungry during the day prior to IE), my hunger naturally dropped off throughout the day. Eventually it got to the point where I wanted a "snack" when I got home from work, around 5, and then found I didn't want any dinner after that.

It has taken a lot of getting used to, especially with making plans to go out to dinner. I find I eat a lot more on those days... and still wake up wanting a big breakfast the next day.

This pattern has continued and even intensified during my pregnancy, only in the last few weeks I've needed to add a bedtime snack -- typically a kashi whole grain cookie (I love the oatmeal with dark chocolate chips) and a small glass of whole milk. Otherwise I can't fall asleep.

I don't think this plan is ideal by any means... I miss out on a lot of opportunities for protein and vegetables, which is especially not ideal during pregnancy. I've compromised by making smoothies with milk, protein powder, coconut oil, and frozen fruit.

So that's been my experience.

Best,

AbbyIE since 11/08, and 33 weeks pregnant

> Hi. I was thinking today after reading about someone on Yahoo who saves money by not eating dinner, that we are programmed to eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Plus, of course, snacks for most people. This young lady says she saves money and is losing weight by reversing her meals and cutting out dinner unless she is very hungry at night. She says she eats a substantial breakfast, a fairly large lunch, and nothing for dinner except juice when she may be very hungry. This was for her to save money but she says she is losing weight as well. She gets her lunch free at work, but the concept is interesting about having a huge breakfast, and getting smaller from there. I think it flies in the face of IE, though, but I notice that days like today I did not wake up hungry and so a cup of coffee will do, for a while, until I get hungry enough to eat. But the thought is interesting -- to start your day with a big meal (I've seen nutritionists say this before),> and diminish the amount at each meal as the days wears down. I'd like to hear people's thoughts about this. Tai> > > > To: IntuitiveEating_Support > Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 7:51 AM> Subject: Re: eating too fast> > > > I thank you for suggestions and I think you are right. Because I love salads and don't completely think of them as diet foods, and because I add protein, I was thinking they were complete. I do seem to be full and satisfied but get hungry real fast. Sandy> > > > > >>Salads are really low in calories, which is why they are a favorite of dieters. Why not have a more substantial entree and include a side salad for nutrients? A little whole grain bread might keep your hunger at bay, too.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>Me too. Don't know why. Maybe because there is no bread? I could have a nice roll I guess. Any one got a idea? Sandy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>Salads, no matter how good, only last about 1½ hours for me and then I'm starving again, no matter how much fat or protien was in them. I love them but I know I'm going to be eating again soon if I choose a salad for lunch.>>>>>>>>Sunny>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Re: eating too fast>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If I ate every time I was hungry I'd be eating every hour. That says to me that perhaps I am not eating enough when I do eat or I am not eating foods that sustain me. I am trying to make a list of those foods that I like and that do sustain me for more than an hour. I have some that do a pretty good job. Almost always it is a protein along with a complex carb and some fat. But that doesn't always work. Like a salad even with protein in it doesn't seem to fit the bill. I am finding that too much salad or fruit is hard on my IBS too. Sandy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>Sandy,>>>>>It sounds like you are doing just right! It's great that you fed yourself when hungry!>>>>>Why would you want to distract yourself from your hunger?>>>>>I think feeding yourself as soon as you can is really important, ESPECIALLY when starting IE. How else can your body learn that it's safe to trust you? >>>>>Also, of course, you are much more likely to stop before overly full if you are not ravenous when you start.>>>>>Tai, maybe you could try being a food anthroplogist! Try experimenting... there's no right or wrong answer. I have found "the sigh" (when you suddenly let out a big sigh while eating) to be a good indicator of when I'm full... but the problem is that I often then am hungry very soon thereafter, again. Not truly a problem, but sometimes inconvenient. So I often choose to ignore it for a few bites.>>>>>It's fun (and fine) to experiment!>>>>>Abby>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action -- but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I even think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now I'd like to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to nibble -- eat very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because eating can and should be a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to endure for a few minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need help here. Tai>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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There was a time when I didn't eat breakfast most mornings. I simply wasn't hungry. Now that I rarely eat after supper (not hungry), by morning, I am really hungry. CaroleTo: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Sat, June 18, 2011 11:00:32 AMSubject: Re: eating too fast

Hi. I was thinking today after reading about someone on Yahoo who saves money by not eating dinner, that we are programmed to eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Plus, of course, snacks for most people. This young lady says she saves money and is losing weight by reversing her meals and cutting out dinner unless she is very hungry at night. She says she eats a substantial breakfast, a fairly large lunch, and nothing for dinner except juice when she may be very hungry. This was for her to save money but she says she is losing weight as well. She gets her lunch free at work, but the concept is interesting about having a huge breakfast, and getting smaller from there. I think it flies in the face of IE, though, but I notice that days like today I did not wake up hungry and so a

cup of coffee will do, for a while, until I get hungry enough to eat. But the thought is interesting -- to start your day with a big meal (I've seen nutritionists say this before), and diminish the amount at each meal as the days wears down. I'd like to hear people's thoughts about this. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 7:51 AMSubject: Re: eating too fast

I thank you for suggestions and I think you are right. Because I love salads and don't completely think of them as diet foods, and because I add protein, I was thinking they were complete. I do seem to be full and satisfied but get hungry real fast. Sandy

Salads are really low in calories, which is why they are a favorite of dieters. Why not have a more substantial entree and include a side salad for nutrients? A little whole grain bread might keep your hunger at bay, too.

Me too. Don't know why. Maybe because there is no bread? I could have a nice roll I guess. Any one got a idea? Sandy

Salads, no matter how good, only last about 1½ hours for me and then I'm starving again, no matter how much fat or protien was in them. I love them but I know I'm going to be eating again soon if I choose a salad for lunch.

Sunny

Re: eating too fast

If I ate every time I was hungry I'd be eating every hour. That says to me that perhaps I am not eating enough when I do eat or I am not eating foods that sustain me. I am trying to make a list of those foods that I like and that do sustain me for more than an hour. I have some that do a pretty good job. Almost always it is a protein along with a complex carb and some fat. But that doesn't always work. Like a salad even with protein in it doesn't seem to fit the bill. I am finding that too much salad or fruit is hard on my IBS too. Sandy

Sandy,

It sounds like you are doing just right! It's great that you fed yourself when hungry!

Why would you want to distract yourself from your hunger?

I think feeding yourself as soon as you can is really important, ESPECIALLY when starting IE. How else can your body learn that it's safe to trust you?

Also, of course, you are much more likely to stop before overly full if you are not ravenous when you start.

Tai, maybe you could try being a food anthroplogist! Try experimenting... there's no right or wrong answer. I have found "the sigh" (when you suddenly let out a big sigh while eating) to be a good indicator of when I'm full... but the problem is that I often then am hungry very soon thereafter, again. Not truly a problem, but sometimes inconvenient. So I often choose to ignore it for a few bites.

It's fun (and fine) to experiment!

Abby

> OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action -- but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I even think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now I'd like to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to nibble -- eat very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because eating can and should be a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to endure for a few minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need help here. Tai

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It is interesting but I think you are right when you say it flies in the face of IE where we are trying to recognize and honor our hunger.  It sounds too much like a diet to me.but whatever works for her.  I do eat a pretty big breakfast anyway, maybe not so at lunch but I am learning to eat enough so I am not hungry in an hour.  I too often am not really hungry the minute I get up so I have a cup of cocoa.  I make it with the dark chocolate powder, water, and milk.  I need calcium and can not take the supplements.  Then in about an hour I am hungry and eat a good breakfast.  Just my thoughts. Sandy

 

Hi. I was thinking today after reading about someone on Yahoo who saves money by not eating dinner, that we are programmed to eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Plus, of course, snacks for most people. This young lady says she saves money and is losing weight by reversing her meals and cutting out dinner unless she is very hungry at night. She says she eats a substantial breakfast, a fairly large lunch, and nothing for dinner except juice when she may be very hungry. This was for her to save money but she says she is losing weight as well. She gets her lunch free at work, but the concept is interesting about having a huge breakfast, and getting smaller from there. I think it flies in the face of IE, though, but I notice that days like today I did not wake up hungry and so a

cup of coffee will do, for a while, until I get hungry enough to eat. But the thought is interesting -- to start your day with a big meal (I've seen nutritionists say this before), and diminish the amount at each meal as the days wears down. I'd like to hear people's thoughts about this. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 7:51 AM

Subject: Re: eating too fast

 

I thank you for suggestions and I think you are right.  Because I love salads and don't completely think of them as diet foods, and because I add protein, I was thinking they were complete.  I do seem to be full and satisfied but get hungry real fast. Sandy

 

Salads are really low in calories, which is why they are a favorite of dieters. Why not have a more substantial entree and include a side salad for nutrients? A little whole grain bread might keep your hunger at bay, too.

 

Me too.  Don't know why.  Maybe because there is no bread?  I could have a nice roll I guess. Any one got a idea?  Sandy

 

Salads, no matter how good, only last about 1½ hours for me and then I'm starving again, no matter how much fat or protien was in them.  I love them but I know I'm going to be eating again soon if I choose a salad for lunch.

 

Sunny

Re: eating too fast

If I ate every time I was hungry I'd be eating every hour.   That says to me that perhaps I am not eating enough when I do eat or I am not eating foods that sustain me.  I am trying to make a list of those foods that I like and that do sustain me for more than an hour.  I have some that do a pretty good job.  Almost always it is a protein along with a complex carb and some fat.  But that doesn't always work.  Like a salad even with protein in it doesn't seem to fit the bill. I am finding that too much salad or fruit is hard on my IBS too.  Sandy

 

Sandy,

It sounds like you are doing just right! It's great that you fed yourself when hungry!

Why would you want to distract yourself from your hunger?

I think feeding yourself as soon as you can is really important, ESPECIALLY when starting IE. How else can your body learn that it's safe to trust you?

Also, of course, you are much more likely to stop before overly full if you are not ravenous when you start.

Tai, maybe you could try being a food anthroplogist! Try experimenting... there's no right or wrong answer. I have found " the sigh " (when you suddenly let out a big sigh while eating) to be a good indicator of when I'm full... but the problem is that I often then am hungry very soon thereafter, again. Not truly a problem, but sometimes inconvenient. So I often choose to ignore it for a few bites.

It's fun (and fine) to experiment!

Abby

> OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action -- but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I even think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now I'd like to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to nibble -- eat very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because eating can and should be a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to endure for a few minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need help here. Tai

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Hi, Sandy. Maybe she's not hungry. But anyway, I agree with you that I usually don't eat in the morning until I'm hungry. But I usually start my day with a cup of water with lemon juice followed by a cup of coffee if I'm not hungry. Then I'll read or do something until I am hungry enough to eat. :-) Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 7:51 PMSubject: Re: eating too fast

It is interesting but I think you are right when you say it flies in the face of IE where we are trying to recognize and honor our hunger. It sounds too much like a diet to me.but whatever works for her. I do eat a pretty big breakfast anyway, maybe not so at lunch but I am learning to eat enough so I am not hungry in an hour. I too often am not really hungry the minute I get up so I have a cup of cocoa. I make it with the dark chocolate powder, water, and milk. I need calcium and can not take the supplements. Then in about an hour I am hungry and eat a good breakfast. Just my thoughts. Sandy

Hi. I was thinking today after reading about someone on Yahoo who saves money by not eating dinner, that we are programmed to eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Plus, of course, snacks for most people. This young lady says she saves money and is losing weight by reversing her meals and cutting out dinner unless she is very hungry at night. She says she eats a substantial breakfast, a fairly large lunch, and nothing for dinner except juice when she may be very hungry. This was for her to save money but she says she is losing weight as well. She gets her lunch free at work, but the concept is interesting about having a huge breakfast, and getting smaller from there. I think it flies in the face of IE, though, but I notice that days like today I did not wake up hungry and so a cup of coffee will do, for a while, until I get hungry enough to eat. But the thought is interesting -- to start your day with a big meal (I've seen nutritionists say

this before), and diminish the amount at each meal as the days wears down. I'd like to hear people's thoughts about this. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 7:51 AM

Subject: Re: eating too fast

I thank you for suggestions and I think you are right. Because I love salads and don't completely think of them as diet foods, and because I add protein, I was thinking they were complete. I do seem to be full and satisfied but get hungry real fast. Sandy

Salads are really low in calories, which is why they are a favorite of dieters. Why not have a more substantial entree and include a side salad for nutrients? A little whole grain bread might keep your hunger at bay, too.

Me too. Don't know why. Maybe because there is no bread? I could have a nice roll I guess. Any one got a idea? Sandy

Salads, no matter how good, only last about 1½ hours for me and then I'm starving again, no matter how much fat or protien was in them. I love them but I know I'm going to be eating again soon if I choose a salad for lunch.

Sunny

Re: eating too fast

If I ate every time I was hungry I'd be eating every hour. That says to me that perhaps I am not eating enough when I do eat or I am not eating foods that sustain me. I am trying to make a list of those foods that I like and that do sustain me for more than an hour. I have some that do a pretty good job. Almost always it is a protein along with a complex carb and some fat. But that doesn't always work. Like a salad even with protein in it doesn't seem to fit the bill. I am finding that too much salad or fruit is hard on my IBS too. Sandy

Sandy,

It sounds like you are doing just right! It's great that you fed yourself when hungry!

Why would you want to distract yourself from your hunger?

I think feeding yourself as soon as you can is really important, ESPECIALLY when starting IE. How else can your body learn that it's safe to trust you?

Also, of course, you are much more likely to stop before overly full if you are not ravenous when you start.

Tai, maybe you could try being a food anthroplogist! Try experimenting... there's no right or wrong answer. I have found "the sigh" (when you suddenly let out a big sigh while eating) to be a good indicator of when I'm full... but the problem is that I often then am hungry very soon thereafter, again. Not truly a problem, but sometimes inconvenient. So I often choose to ignore it for a few bites.

It's fun (and fine) to experiment!

Abby

> OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action -- but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I even think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now I'd like to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to nibble -- eat very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because eating can and should be a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to endure for a few minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need help here. Tai

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Sounds like it works for you. Great! Sandy

 

Hi, Sandy. Maybe she's not hungry. But anyway, I agree with you that I usually don't eat in the morning until I'm hungry. But I usually start my day with a cup of water with lemon juice followed by a cup of coffee if I'm not hungry. Then I'll read or do something until I am hungry enough to eat. :-) Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 7:51 PM

Subject: Re: eating too fast

 

It is interesting but I think you are right when you say it flies in the face of IE where we are trying to recognize and honor our hunger.  It sounds too much like a diet to me.but whatever works for her.  I do eat a pretty big breakfast anyway, maybe not so at lunch but I am learning to eat enough so I am not hungry in an hour.  I too often am not really hungry the minute I get up so I have a cup of cocoa.  I make it with the dark chocolate powder, water, and milk.  I need calcium and can not take the supplements.  Then in about an hour I am hungry and eat a good breakfast.  Just my thoughts. Sandy

 

Hi. I was thinking today after reading about someone on Yahoo who saves money by not eating dinner, that we are programmed to eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Plus, of course, snacks for most people. This young lady says she saves money and is losing weight by reversing her meals and cutting out dinner unless she is very hungry at night. She says she eats a substantial breakfast, a fairly large lunch, and nothing for dinner except juice when she may be very hungry. This was for her to save money but she says she is losing weight as well. She gets her lunch free at work, but the concept is interesting about having a huge breakfast, and getting smaller from there. I think it flies in the face of IE, though, but I notice that days like today I did not wake up hungry and so a cup of coffee will do, for a while, until I get hungry enough to eat. But the thought is interesting -- to start your day with a big meal (I've seen nutritionists say

this before), and diminish the amount at each meal as the days wears down. I'd like to hear people's thoughts about this. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 7:51 AM

Subject: Re: eating too fast

 

I thank you for suggestions and I think you are right.  Because I love salads and don't completely think of them as diet foods, and because I add protein, I was thinking they were complete.  I do seem to be full and satisfied but get hungry real fast. Sandy

 

Salads are really low in calories, which is why they are a favorite of dieters. Why not have a more substantial entree and include a side salad for nutrients? A little whole grain bread might keep your hunger at bay, too.

 

Me too.  Don't know why.  Maybe because there is no bread?  I could have a nice roll I guess. Any one got a idea?  Sandy

 

Salads, no matter how good, only last about 1½ hours for me and then I'm starving again, no matter how much fat or protien was in them.  I love them but I know I'm going to be eating again soon if I choose a salad for lunch.

 

Sunny

Re: eating too fast

If I ate every time I was hungry I'd be eating every hour.   That says to me that perhaps I am not eating enough when I do eat or I am not eating foods that sustain me.  I am trying to make a list of those foods that I like and that do sustain me for more than an hour.  I have some that do a pretty good job.  Almost always it is a protein along with a complex carb and some fat.  But that doesn't always work.  Like a salad even with protein in it doesn't seem to fit the bill. I am finding that too much salad or fruit is hard on my IBS too.  Sandy

 

Sandy,

It sounds like you are doing just right! It's great that you fed yourself when hungry!

Why would you want to distract yourself from your hunger?

I think feeding yourself as soon as you can is really important, ESPECIALLY when starting IE. How else can your body learn that it's safe to trust you?

Also, of course, you are much more likely to stop before overly full if you are not ravenous when you start.

Tai, maybe you could try being a food anthroplogist! Try experimenting... there's no right or wrong answer. I have found " the sigh " (when you suddenly let out a big sigh while eating) to be a good indicator of when I'm full... but the problem is that I often then am hungry very soon thereafter, again. Not truly a problem, but sometimes inconvenient. So I often choose to ignore it for a few bites.

It's fun (and fine) to experiment!

Abby

> OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action -- but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I even think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now I'd like to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to nibble -- eat very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because eating can and should be a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to endure for a few minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need help here. Tai

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Hi and welcome. Last month I got up at 4am because I was too hungry to sleep.  That was the first and only time that has happened to me.  But I knew if I did not do that, I would lie there for hours thinking about it and losing more sleep than if I just got up and ate.   I was also concerned about reflux, but it was rather exciting to give myself permission to do that and I was able to go right back to sleep.  I do hope it doesn't happen often however, as that could really play havoc with my sleep. Your situation may be very different than mine because I am retired so I can sleep in late if I have had a restless night.  Sandy

 

Hi all, I'm new to the group and have been watching the messages for a few days. But something came up so I thought I'd write. I've been following this way of eating for about 6 weeks. I am having a problem of what to do if i get hungry in the middle of the night. I've never been a middle of the night eater, and if i go to bed full, then i feel terrible all night. But I don't want to disturb my sleep by getting up if I'm hungry. It's a dilemma. I'm not ignoring my hunger, in this case out of diet mentality, but from the need to sleep, which is a pain sometimes.

From: Tailyn GreySent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 3:00 PM

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Subject: Re: eating too fast

 

Hi, Abby. It sounds like you're doing very well. You're pregnant? Hope everything is going well for you.

 

Today I did not eat breakfast because I was not hungry but I decided to eat a substantial meal for my first meal. So I did. I went out for chicken, rice and beans (not my first thought, but that's what I decided on) and they give a tremendous amount in this restaurant. However, my eyes were, as they say, bigger than my stomach, and so I also bought a piece of cake that looked very good. I got halfway through the meal and I decided I was full. No cake for me, even though I bought it. For some reason, the taste of that meal lingered with me after we left the restaurant and i was dying to get home to finish the remainder. So I did. The cake is still there, I'm not touching it because I'm simply not hungry enough for it. Perhaps before the day is over, I will need more food, and so I may have a cup of tea with a bit of that delicious looking cake. I don't think I can have milk before I go to sleep because I will collect residue in my throat during the night and it disturbs my sleep when I eat too much just before I go to sleep. Not sure if that means milk, but at this point, dairy and sugar frighten me if I eat it just before I retire. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 2:18 PM

Subject: Re: eating too fast

 

Tai,

This happened to me quite by accident since starting IE... after years of trying to make myself not snack at night! But I think as I got used to feeding myself adequately in the morning (and this was KEY... I was very used to being a little bit hungry during the day prior to IE), my hunger naturally dropped off throughout the day. Eventually it got to the point where I wanted a " snack " when I got home from work, around 5, and then found I didn't want any dinner after that.

It has taken a lot of getting used to, especially with making plans to go out to dinner. I find I eat a lot more on those days... and still wake up wanting a big breakfast the next day.

This pattern has continued and even intensified during my pregnancy, only in the last few weeks I've needed to add a bedtime snack -- typically a kashi whole grain cookie (I love the oatmeal with dark chocolate chips) and a small glass of whole milk. Otherwise I can't fall asleep.

I don't think this plan is ideal by any means... I miss out on a lot of opportunities for protein and vegetables, which is especially not ideal during pregnancy. I've compromised by making smoothies with milk, protein powder, coconut oil, and frozen fruit.

So that's been my experience.

Best,

AbbyIE since 11/08, and 33 weeks pregnant

> Hi. I was thinking today after reading about someone on Yahoo who saves money by not eating dinner, that we are programmed to eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Plus, of course, snacks for most people. This young lady says she saves money and is losing weight by reversing her meals and cutting out dinner unless she is very hungry at night. She says she eats a substantial breakfast, a fairly large lunch, and nothing for dinner except juice when she may be very hungry. This was for her to save money but she says she is losing weight as well. She gets her lunch free at work, but the concept is interesting about having a huge breakfast, and getting smaller from there. I think it flies in the face of IE, though, but I notice that days like today I did not wake up hungry and so a cup of coffee will do, for a while, until I get hungry enough to eat. But the thought is interesting -- to start your day with a big meal (I've seen nutritionists say this before),

> and diminish the amount at each meal as the days wears down. I'd like to hear people's thoughts about this. Tai> > >

> To: IntuitiveEating_Support > Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 7:51 AM> Subject: Re: eating too fast

> > >   > I thank you for suggestions and I think you are right.  Because I love salads and don't completely think of them as diet foods, and because I add protein, I was thinking they were complete.  I do seem to be full and satisfied but get hungry real fast. Sandy

> > > > >   >>Salads are really low in calories, which is why they are a favorite of dieters. Why not have a more substantial entree and include a side salad for nutrients? A little whole grain bread might keep your hunger at bay, too.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>  >>>Me too.  Don't know why.  Maybe because there is no bread?  I could have a nice roll I guess. Any one got a idea?  Sandy>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>  >>>>Salads, no matter how good, only last about 1½ hours for me and then I'm starving again, no matter how much fat or protien was in them.  I love them but I know I'm going to be eating again soon if I choose a salad for lunch.

>>>>>>>>Sunny>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Re: eating too fast>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If I ate every time I was hungry I'd be eating every hour.   That says to me that perhaps I am not eating enough when I do eat or I am not eating foods that sustain me.  I am trying to make a list of those foods that I like and that do sustain me for more than an hour.  I have some that do a pretty good job.  Almost always it is a protein along with a complex carb and some fat.  But that doesn't always work.  Like a salad even with protein in it doesn't seem to fit the bill. I am finding that too much salad or fruit is hard on my IBS too.  Sandy

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>>>>>>>>  >>>>>Sandy,>>>>>It sounds like you are doing just right! It's great that you fed yourself when hungry!>>>>>Why would you want to distract yourself from your hunger?

>>>>>I think feeding yourself as soon as you can is really important, ESPECIALLY when starting IE. How else can your body learn that it's safe to trust you? >>>>>Also, of course, you are much more likely to stop before overly full if you are not ravenous when you start.

>>>>>Tai, maybe you could try being a food anthroplogist! Try experimenting... there's no right or wrong answer. I have found " the sigh " (when you suddenly let out a big sigh while eating) to be a good indicator of when I'm full... but the problem is that I often then am hungry very soon thereafter, again. Not truly a problem, but sometimes inconvenient. So I often choose to ignore it for a few bites.

>>>>>It's fun (and fine) to experiment!>>>>>Abby>>>>>

>>>>>> OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action -- but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I even think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now I'd like to hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to nibble -- eat very, very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because eating can and should be a pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to endure for a few minutes rather than a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need help here. Tai

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I am having a problem of what to do if i get

hungry in the middle of the night.

Are you having enough water during the day and before you go to bed?

I read a study showing that staying hydrated resolves 90% of

night-time food cravings.

.... the concept is interesting about having

a huge breakfast, and getting smaller from there. I think it flies

in the face of IE...

I wonder if it really does fly in the face of IE? Starting the day

with a large breakfast and being generous with lunch gives you the

energy to run your day, while leaving you satisfied before bed.

When I do this, I have plenty of energy during the day and I am not

hungry at night. When I don't, I find my hunger constantly high

throughout the day; I may lack energy; and I have to eat late at

night, which -- as you say -- disturbs my sleep.

That, to me, is listening to my body!

Paddy

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Tai

After a few months of experimenting, I'm going back to one meal a day.

I really like it.

I have my meal in early evening. During the day I'm really not hungry and enjoy

herbal teas. I'm also very busy and feel very clear and simple not thinking

about food. No " should I " buzz in my mind. Just focus on work, etc.

I've been writing my food and weight for a couple of years. I went back and

tracked, one meal a day (large but healthy) brings scale results for me.

I don't think eating a huge meal in the a.m. is good for the sleepy digestive

system. I also don't think grazing gives the system time to rest.

Fridays, I splurge with bread, wine, dessert. The other days I'm veggies,

protein, fruit (in order of ratio).

I am also tracking my sleep and hot flashes, and find that if I finish before

sunset, my night is MUCH better.

Foggy

> >>>>> OK, I'm thinking of something. Don't know if I'll put it into action --

but here's what I'd like to do: stop eating the second (not the minute) I even

think I'm full. That might happen after two bites, sadly to say. Now I'd like to

hear from a veteran IE-er about this. I suppose I'd have to nibble -- eat very,

very slowly in order to enjoy the experience. Because eating can and should be a

pleasure. I usually like that relaxation to endure for a few minutes rather than

a few seconds. Thoughts, anyone? I need help here. Tai

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Hi, Paddy. For the past few days I have not been hungry immediately upon waking up. RE: a big breakfast. So I'm waiting. It really feels good to wait until I'm hungry. I know the nutritionists have been saying that we need the proper fuel for breakfast, but right now I'm working pretty well waiting for the hunger signal to set in. Tai