Guest guest Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 I HATE pictures of me, or catching a glimpse of myself in a store window. I know we are supposed to accept ourselves as we are, but I have never found fat attractive on anyone, at least not tons of it. Full figured is fine with me but fat is just not. It's not just my self image I have a problem with, I'm not attracted to fat men, etc...don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I don't like fat people, I have 100 pounds to lose, I just don't find it attractive. I don't mean any offense by those comments, I don't see how my personal preferences will ever change. We are all have our own attractions. But resisting the urge to diet is another thing altogether. While I do want to lose weight, and sooner rather than later, I don't want to ever diet again. Just the idea of counting calories or grams, planning ahead so I don't run over my allotment, banishing foods or whole groups of foods, feeling guilty, being hungry more often than I'm full, eating like a pig when no one is looking, being good, being bad, staying perfectly on program and losing barely a thing after all that effort, gaining more weight the minute I let my guard down...oh no thank you! I'll keep all this weight forever if my only alternative is all that crap. At least in my own mind's eye I'm beautiful, full figured, but not fat and about 20 years younger too. Sunny Fat Photos A pal just posted a bunch of recent photos of me on facebook. I look huge. How do you resist the urge to diet when you see photos or have to buy new clothes? It's been a rough month. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 You can " un-tag " yourself from photos on Facebook if you don't like how you look.There can be an amazing difference in our appearance from one photo to the next, even if they are taken at the same time, so if you don't like them, feel free! That said... I think Sunny's point is a good one. if you KNOW that dieting doesn't work for you (at least in the long term, if not in the short term), maybe that's a good thing to focus on when you feel the urge? I also found for me that when I lost the belief in dieting, it forced me to get more comfortable with my own appearance, for better or worse. In the book When Women Stop Hating Their Bodies, one exercise they recommend is to think about what if the world was hit by an asteroid and from then on out, we were all frozen at exactly the weight we are now? How would you live life differently if you knew that no matter what you did or ate, you wouldn't lose (or gain) any weight??? I thought this was a cool thing to think about. I HATE pictures of me, or catching a glimpse of myself in a store window. I know we are supposed to accept ourselves as we are, but I have never found fat attractive on anyone, at least not tons of it. Full figured is fine with me but fat is just not. It's not just my self image I have a problem with, I'm not attracted to fat men, etc...don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I don't like fat people, I have 100 pounds to lose, I just don't find it attractive. I don't mean any offense by those comments, I don't see how my personal preferences will ever change. We are all have our own attractions. But resisting the urge to diet is another thing altogether. While I do want to lose weight, and sooner rather than later, I don't want to ever diet again. Just the idea of counting calories or grams, planning ahead so I don't run over my allotment, banishing foods or whole groups of foods, feeling guilty, being hungry more often than I'm full, eating like a pig when no one is looking, being good, being bad, staying perfectly on program and losing barely a thing after all that effort, gaining more weight the minute I let my guard down...oh no thank you! I'll keep all this weight forever if my only alternative is all that crap. At least in my own mind's eye I'm beautiful, full figured, but not fat and about 20 years younger too. Sunny Fat Photos A pal just posted a bunch of recent photos of me on facebook. I look huge. How do you resist the urge to diet when you see photos or have to buy new clothes? It's been a rough month. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 Sunny,Perhaps you could think of these "fat" pictures as "before" pictures.CaroleTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 4:13:22 PMSubject: Re: Fat Photos I HATE pictures of me, or catching a glimpse of myself in a store window. I know we are supposed to accept ourselves as we are, but I have never found fat attractive on anyone, at least not tons of it. Full figured is fine with me but fat is just not. It's not just my self image I have a problem with, I'm not attracted to fat men, etc...don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I don't like fat people, I have 100 pounds to lose, I just don't find it attractive. I don't mean any offense by those comments, I don't see how my personal preferences will ever change. We are all have our own attractions. But resisting the urge to diet is another thing altogether. While I do want to lose weight, and sooner rather than later, I don't want to ever diet again. Just the idea of counting calories or grams, planning ahead so I don't run over my allotment, banishing foods or whole groups of foods, feeling guilty, being hungry more often than I'm full, eating like a pig when no one is looking, being good, being bad, staying perfectly on program and losing barely a thing after all that effort, gaining more weight the minute I let my guard down...oh no thank you! I'll keep all this weight forever if my only alternative is all that crap. At least in my own mind's eye I'm beautiful, full figured, but not fat and about 20 years younger too. Sunny Fat Photos A pal just posted a bunch of recent photos of me on facebook. I look huge. How do you resist the urge to diet when you see photos or have to buy new clothes? It's been a rough month. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 Oh that is cool to think about!! I'm going to give that some thought after work today!! Wow, that's really powerful! Sunny Fat Photos A pal just posted a bunch of recent photos of me on facebook. I look huge. How do you resist the urge to diet when you see photos or have to buy new clothes? It's been a rough month. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 Well, if I lose weight significantly enough to make a difference in the appearance in pictures, then yes, they would be "before" pics, but alas it is what it is and that's the here and now. I'm at the biggest weight I have ever been and have again a pant size since beginning IE when I took the no forbidden foods to be a joyous reprieve. Sunny Fat Photos A pal just posted a bunch of recent photos of me on facebook. I look huge. How do you resist the urge to diet when you see photos or have to buy new clothes? It's been a rough month. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 Well put! And you certainly seem at the right place for IE. Tired of dieting and not going to do it again. And your listing of all those things that you are not going to do again reminded me too. Thanks. Sandy I HATE pictures of me, or catching a glimpse of myself in a store window. I know we are supposed to accept ourselves as we are, but I have never found fat attractive on anyone, at least not tons of it. Full figured is fine with me but fat is just not. It's not just my self image I have a problem with, I'm not attracted to fat men, etc...don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I don't like fat people, I have 100 pounds to lose, I just don't find it attractive. I don't mean any offense by those comments, I don't see how my personal preferences will ever change. We are all have our own attractions. But resisting the urge to diet is another thing altogether. While I do want to lose weight, and sooner rather than later, I don't want to ever diet again. Just the idea of counting calories or grams, planning ahead so I don't run over my allotment, banishing foods or whole groups of foods, feeling guilty, being hungry more often than I'm full, eating like a pig when no one is looking, being good, being bad, staying perfectly on program and losing barely a thing after all that effort, gaining more weight the minute I let my guard down...oh no thank you! I'll keep all this weight forever if my only alternative is all that crap. At least in my own mind's eye I'm beautiful, full figured, but not fat and about 20 years younger too. Sunny Fat Photos A pal just posted a bunch of recent photos of me on facebook. I look huge. How do you resist the urge to diet when you see photos or have to buy new clothes? It's been a rough month. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 You resist the urge to diet because you are doing the best you can by not dieting and using your mind and body to help you choose what and when to eat. Plus a big smile on your face probably wouldn't hurt either. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 12:47 PMSubject: Fat Photos A pal just posted a bunch of recent photos of me on facebook. I look huge. How do you resist the urge to diet when you see photos or have to buy new clothes? It's been a rough month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 I basically feel the same way. I'm not ashamed to admit it. Many people don't want to hear it. Even though I'm more than my natural weight, due to years of unregulated living and eating, I am learning to be content with my body signals and way of eating at the present time. I am not dieting, but I will choose to eat what I like or want when I know I need to eat. I try to make good choices for meals, etc., and if I need to eat something more than that such as ice cream, candy, etc., I'll have it. Do I think I appear to be attractive with all this "extra" weight on? Not in a million years, even though I try to dress nicely and look presentable. I don't hate myself. I am learning to eat more normally. I hope. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:22 PMSubject: Re: Fat Photos Well put! And you certainly seem at the right place for IE. Tired of dieting and not going to do it again. And your listing of all those things that you are not going to do again reminded me too. Thanks. Sandy I HATE pictures of me, or catching a glimpse of myself in a store window. I know we are supposed to accept ourselves as we are, but I have never found fat attractive on anyone, at least not tons of it. Full figured is fine with me but fat is just not. It's not just my self image I have a problem with, I'm not attracted to fat men, etc...don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I don't like fat people, I have 100 pounds to lose, I just don't find it attractive. I don't mean any offense by those comments, I don't see how my personal preferences will ever change. We are all have our own attractions. But resisting the urge to diet is another thing altogether. While I do want to lose weight, and sooner rather than later, I don't want to ever diet again. Just the idea of counting calories or grams, planning ahead so I don't run over my allotment, banishing foods or whole groups of foods, feeling guilty, being hungry more often than I'm full, eating like a pig when no one is looking, being good, being bad, staying perfectly on program and losing barely a thing after all that effort, gaining more weight the minute I let my guard down...oh no thank you! I'll keep all this weight forever if my only alternative is all that crap. At least in my own mind's eye I'm beautiful, full figured, but not fat and about 20 years younger too. Sunny Fat Photos A pal just posted a bunch of recent photos of me on facebook. I look huge. How do you resist the urge to diet when you see photos or have to buy new clothes? It's been a rough month. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 Sunny -- I did the same thing. i took the allowance to eat all the 'forbidden' foods I wanted as a reason for me to stock the house with candy, ice cream, peanuts, any crap (junk) I could get my hands on into the mouth. Did I gain weight? You sure bet I did. As I kept needing to buy bigger and bigger clothes, I finally weighed myself (gasp -- gained lots of weight -- surprise surprise) and realized this free-for-all was not working, and by working I mean it did not cause me to lose weight. Surprise, surprise! At that moment, I stopped eating all the extra extra's. I realized I must work on IE, that is, having what I want but when I'm hungry, and instead of candy, have real food. I allow myself the candy, and so forth, but it's no longer the temptation it was. I don't feel the NEED to sit down with a bag of candy any more, I did that for a year and just as they say ... I stopped doing it. I know I can have it if I want to. When you get "fed up" enough, literally, you'll stop, too. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:21 PMSubject: Re: Fat Photos Well, if I lose weight significantly enough to make a difference in the appearance in pictures, then yes, they would be "before" pics, but alas it is what it is and that's the here and now. I'm at the biggest weight I have ever been and have again a pant size since beginning IE when I took the no forbidden foods to be a joyous reprieve. Sunny Fat Photos A pal just posted a bunch of recent photos of me on facebook. I look huge. How do you resist the urge to diet when you see photos or have to buy new clothes? It's been a rough month. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 Tai my problem isn't with eating too many "fun" food. Sure i've had desserts guilt free since starting IEMy problem is more that i still absentmindedly eat too fastAnd i don't stop when i should sometimes. I'm very comfortable with not going hog wild forsweets but i still have to work on the hungerand full signs. SunnySent from my iTouch Sunny -- I did the same thing. i took the allowance to eat all the 'forbidden' foods I wanted as a reason for me to stock the house with candy, ice cream, peanuts, any crap (junk) I could get my hands on into the mouth. Did I gain weight? You sure bet I did. As I kept needing to buy bigger and bigger clothes, I finally weighed myself (gasp -- gained lots of weight -- surprise surprise) and realized this free-for-all was not working, and by working I mean it did not cause me to lose weight. Surprise, surprise! At that moment, I stopped eating all the extra extra's. I realized I must work on IE, that is, having what I want but when I'm hungry, and instead of candy, have real food. I allow myself the candy, and so forth, but it's no longer the temptation it was. I don't feel the NEED to sit down with a bag of candy any more, I did that for a year and just as they say ... I stopped doing it. I know I can have it if I want to. When you get "fed up" enough, literally, you'll stop, too. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:21 PMSubject: Re: Fat Photos Well, if I lose weight significantly enough to make a difference in the appearance in pictures, then yes, they would be "before" pics, but alas it is what it is and that's the here and now. I'm at the biggest weight I have ever been and have again a pant size since beginning IE when I took the no forbidden foods to be a joyous reprieve. Sunny Fat Photos A pal just posted a bunch of recent photos of me on facebook. I look huge. How do you resist the urge to diet when you see photos or have to buy new clothes? It's been a rough month. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Hi, Sunny. You did say that you allowed yourself to eat unrestrainedly all those forbidden foods for a while, right? Perhaps I misunderstood you. I did the same thing and after about a year of doing so, I weighed myself, stepped back and gasped, and suddenly stopped eating all that stuff. All I can say from my own experience is you'll get there as you continue being more mindful. I tend to eat very quickly and I'm going to work on savoring my food, making it a more pleasurable experience. That is a weakness with me as well, so when I'm full I don't want to stop eating because the experience has been so quick. Diets don't work, Perhaps both of us can work on eating more slowly as we enjoy our food? Tai To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 11:41 PMSubject: Re: Fat Photos Tai my problem isn't with eating too many "fun" food. Sure i've had desserts guilt free since starting IE My problem is more that i still absentmindedly eat too fast And i don't stop when i should sometimes. I'm very comfortable with not going hog wild for sweets but i still have to work on the hunger and full signs. SunnySent from my iTouch Sunny -- I did the same thing. i took the allowance to eat all the 'forbidden' foods I wanted as a reason for me to stock the house with candy, ice cream, peanuts, any crap (junk) I could get my hands on into the mouth. Did I gain weight? You sure bet I did. As I kept needing to buy bigger and bigger clothes, I finally weighed myself (gasp -- gained lots of weight -- surprise surprise) and realized this free-for-all was not working, and by working I mean it did not cause me to lose weight. Surprise, surprise! At that moment, I stopped eating all the extra extra's. I realized I must work on IE, that is, having what I want but when I'm hungry, and instead of candy, have real food. I allow myself the candy, and so forth, but it's no longer the temptation it was. I don't feel the NEED to sit down with a bag of candy any more, I did that for a year and just as they say ... I stopped doing it. I know I can have it if I want to. When you get "fed up" enough, literally, you'll stop, too. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:21 PMSubject: Re: Fat Photos Well, if I lose weight significantly enough to make a difference in the appearance in pictures, then yes, they would be "before" pics, but alas it is what it is and that's the here and now. I'm at the biggest weight I have ever been and have again a pant size since beginning IE when I took the no forbidden foods to be a joyous reprieve. Sunny Fat Photos A pal just posted a bunch of recent photos of me on facebook. I look huge. How do you resist the urge to diet when you see photos or have to buy new clothes? It's been a rough month. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 I also eat fast and will be slowing that down to savor the food. I also will be more careful with my choices without banning any foods. I think I took this " no forbidden foods " and neglected the rest of the IE: to listen to body, eat slowly, enjoy what I eat. I have gained weight and am very uncomfortable. But more than that my lab work cmae back with poor liver function tests. The doctor took me offLopid and wants me to have low cholesterol healthy food choices. I think this is a wake up call for me that ells me I have been listening to my mind, not my body as somebody mention. Giving myself unconditional permission to eat any foods may not mean eating as much of it as I think I want. That's where slowing down would help me know when I am full. Any way this is a whole new way of thinking and I haven't quite got the whole of it. I do know something changed, for the better I think. Time will tell. Sandy Hi, Sunny. You did say that you allowed yourself to eat unrestrainedly all those forbidden foods for a while, right? Perhaps I misunderstood you. I did the same thing and after about a year of doing so, I weighed myself, stepped back and gasped, and suddenly stopped eating all that stuff. All I can say from my own experience is you'll get there as you continue being more mindful. I tend to eat very quickly and I'm going to work on savoring my food, making it a more pleasurable experience. That is a weakness with me as well, so when I'm full I don't want to stop eating because the experience has been so quick. Diets don't work, Perhaps both of us can work on eating more slowly as we enjoy our food? Tai To: " IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 11:41 PMSubject: Re: Fat Photos Tai my problem isn't with eating too many " fun " food. Sure i've had desserts guilt free since starting IE My problem is more that i still absentmindedly eat too fast And i don't stop when i should sometimes. I'm very comfortable with not going hog wild for sweets but i still have to work on the hunger and full signs. SunnySent from my iTouch Sunny -- I did the same thing. i took the allowance to eat all the 'forbidden' foods I wanted as a reason for me to stock the house with candy, ice cream, peanuts, any crap (junk) I could get my hands on into the mouth. Did I gain weight? You sure bet I did. As I kept needing to buy bigger and bigger clothes, I finally weighed myself (gasp -- gained lots of weight -- surprise surprise) and realized this free-for-all was not working, and by working I mean it did not cause me to lose weight. Surprise, surprise! At that moment, I stopped eating all the extra extra's. I realized I must work on IE, that is, having what I want but when I'm hungry, and instead of candy, have real food. I allow myself the candy, and so forth, but it's no longer the temptation it was. I don't feel the NEED to sit down with a bag of candy any more, I did that for a year and just as they say ... I stopped doing it. I know I can have it if I want to. When you get " fed up " enough, literally, you'll stop, too. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:21 PMSubject: Re: Fat Photos Well, if I lose weight significantly enough to make a difference in the appearance in pictures, then yes, they would be " before " pics, but alas it is what it is and that's the here and now. I'm at the biggest weight I have ever been and have again a pant size since beginning IE when I took the no forbidden foods to be a joyous reprieve. Sunny Fat Photos A pal just posted a bunch of recent photos of me on facebook. I look huge. How do you resist the urge to diet when you see photos or have to buy new clothes? It's been a rough month. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 You know Tai, I like your way of putting why we don't stop when we eat so fast. You're right, it's like I haven't had enough time to enjoy it even though I know I've had enough. So I will make more effort to enjoy the bites. I haven't been overly full lately but I know I could stop sooner. Then I go the other extreme, thinking I'm no longer hungry I do stop only to find myself quite hungry again in an hour and half to 2 hours. When that happens I do allow myself to eat but by the end of the day I've eaten a lot more than the days I when I don't stop a meal so soon. It's such a fine line and after a lifetime of bolting my food, I haven't quite gotten a good strong notification of "appropriately full" yet. I did allow myself to eat anything I wanted in the early days, I still do when it comes to choices. I did have to learn that being able to eat anything didn't mean it was ok to eat everything, if you get what I mean. But I must say, I really didn't go nuts and eat all the once forbidden foods. I believe it was more the amount of food and not the forbiddance of it that caused my weight gain. I often like to have a small sweet after dinner but I am not wanting sweets any other time...I have chosen carbs more than I would have before... Sunny Fat Photos A pal just posted a bunch of recent photos of me on facebook. I look huge. How do you resist the urge to diet when you see photos or have to buy new clothes? It's been a rough month. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Hi again, Sandy. I agree that mind and body should work hand in hand. :-) My body tells me I'm hungry, I'm looking for food, my mind sees that I have choices of food to make. ?? :-) During my unrestrained 'training' period, I allowed my mind to tell me, the whole person, that I am allowed to stuff my face with anything I want. Now I'm thinking different, because if I'm going to stuff my face (and I don't always want to), I will hopefully choose what my mind says won't kill me right away. LOL! I agree both of us have to get a handle on things since the body is saying it's, um, going in a way we don't want it to? Always a pleasure, TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 10:25 AMSubject: Re: Fat Photos I also eat fast and will be slowing that down to savor the food. I also will be more careful with my choices without banning any foods. I think I took this "no forbidden foods" and neglected the rest of the IE: to listen to body, eat slowly, enjoy what I eat. I have gained weight and am very uncomfortable. But more than that my lab work cmae back with poor liver function tests. The doctor took me offLopid and wants me to have low cholesterol healthy food choices. I think this is a wake up call for me that ells me I have been listening to my mind, not my body as somebody mention. Giving myself unconditional permission to eat any foods may not mean eating as much of it as I think I want. That's where slowing down would help me know when I am full. Any way this is a whole new way of thinking and I haven't quite got the whole of it. I do know something changed, for the better I think. Time will tell. Sandy Hi, Sunny. You did say that you allowed yourself to eat unrestrainedly all those forbidden foods for a while, right? Perhaps I misunderstood you. I did the same thing and after about a year of doing so, I weighed myself, stepped back and gasped, and suddenly stopped eating all that stuff. All I can say from my own experience is you'll get there as you continue being more mindful. I tend to eat very quickly and I'm going to work on savoring my food, making it a more pleasurable experience. That is a weakness with me as well, so when I'm full I don't want to stop eating because the experience has been so quick. Diets don't work, Perhaps both of us can work on eating more slowly as we enjoy our food? Tai To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 11:41 PMSubject: Re: Fat Photos Tai my problem isn't with eating too many "fun" food. Sure i've had desserts guilt free since starting IE My problem is more that i still absentmindedly eat too fast And i don't stop when i should sometimes. I'm very comfortable with not going hog wild for sweets but i still have to work on the hunger and full signs. SunnySent from my iTouch Sunny -- I did the same thing. i took the allowance to eat all the 'forbidden' foods I wanted as a reason for me to stock the house with candy, ice cream, peanuts, any crap (junk) I could get my hands on into the mouth. Did I gain weight? You sure bet I did. As I kept needing to buy bigger and bigger clothes, I finally weighed myself (gasp -- gained lots of weight -- surprise surprise) and realized this free-for-all was not working, and by working I mean it did not cause me to lose weight. Surprise, surprise! At that moment, I stopped eating all the extra extra's. I realized I must work on IE, that is, having what I want but when I'm hungry, and instead of candy, have real food. I allow myself the candy, and so forth, but it's no longer the temptation it was. I don't feel the NEED to sit down with a bag of candy any more, I did that for a year and just as they say ... I stopped doing it. I know I can have it if I want to. When you get "fed up" enough, literally, you'll stop, too. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:21 PMSubject: Re: Fat Photos Well, if I lose weight significantly enough to make a difference in the appearance in pictures, then yes, they would be "before" pics, but alas it is what it is and that's the here and now. I'm at the biggest weight I have ever been and have again a pant size since beginning IE when I took the no forbidden foods to be a joyous reprieve. Sunny Fat Photos A pal just posted a bunch of recent photos of me on facebook. I look huge. How do you resist the urge to diet when you see photos or have to buy new clothes? It's been a rough month. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 This has been a new shift for me so I am doing a lot of soul searching. Sometimes it feels like I am using diet mentality again. When I write if my food journal things like " I shouldn't have had that " or " I should have something healthy " that seems like diet mentality. Sandy Hi again, Sandy. I agree that mind and body should work hand in hand. :-) My body tells me I'm hungry, I'm looking for food, my mind sees that I have choices of food to make. ?? :-) During my unrestrained 'training' period, I allowed my mind to tell me, the whole person, that I am allowed to stuff my face with anything I want. Now I'm thinking different, because if I'm going to stuff my face (and I don't always want to), I will hopefully choose what my mind says won't kill me right away. LOL! I agree both of us have to get a handle on things since the body is saying it's, um, going in a way we don't want it to? Always a pleasure, Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 10:25 AMSubject: Re: Fat Photos I also eat fast and will be slowing that down to savor the food. I also will be more careful with my choices without banning any foods. I think I took this " no forbidden foods " and neglected the rest of the IE: to listen to body, eat slowly, enjoy what I eat. I have gained weight and am very uncomfortable. But more than that my lab work cmae back with poor liver function tests. The doctor took me offLopid and wants me to have low cholesterol healthy food choices. I think this is a wake up call for me that ells me I have been listening to my mind, not my body as somebody mention. Giving myself unconditional permission to eat any foods may not mean eating as much of it as I think I want. That's where slowing down would help me know when I am full. Any way this is a whole new way of thinking and I haven't quite got the whole of it. I do know something changed, for the better I think. Time will tell. Sandy Hi, Sunny. You did say that you allowed yourself to eat unrestrainedly all those forbidden foods for a while, right? Perhaps I misunderstood you. I did the same thing and after about a year of doing so, I weighed myself, stepped back and gasped, and suddenly stopped eating all that stuff. All I can say from my own experience is you'll get there as you continue being more mindful. I tend to eat very quickly and I'm going to work on savoring my food, making it a more pleasurable experience. That is a weakness with me as well, so when I'm full I don't want to stop eating because the experience has been so quick. Diets don't work, Perhaps both of us can work on eating more slowly as we enjoy our food? Tai To: " IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 11:41 PMSubject: Re: Fat Photos Tai my problem isn't with eating too many " fun " food. Sure i've had desserts guilt free since starting IE My problem is more that i still absentmindedly eat too fast And i don't stop when i should sometimes. I'm very comfortable with not going hog wild for sweets but i still have to work on the hunger and full signs. SunnySent from my iTouch Sunny -- I did the same thing. i took the allowance to eat all the 'forbidden' foods I wanted as a reason for me to stock the house with candy, ice cream, peanuts, any crap (junk) I could get my hands on into the mouth. Did I gain weight? You sure bet I did. As I kept needing to buy bigger and bigger clothes, I finally weighed myself (gasp -- gained lots of weight -- surprise surprise) and realized this free-for-all was not working, and by working I mean it did not cause me to lose weight. Surprise, surprise! At that moment, I stopped eating all the extra extra's. I realized I must work on IE, that is, having what I want but when I'm hungry, and instead of candy, have real food. I allow myself the candy, and so forth, but it's no longer the temptation it was. I don't feel the NEED to sit down with a bag of candy any more, I did that for a year and just as they say ... I stopped doing it. I know I can have it if I want to. When you get " fed up " enough, literally, you'll stop, too. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:21 PMSubject: Re: Fat Photos Well, if I lose weight significantly enough to make a difference in the appearance in pictures, then yes, they would be " before " pics, but alas it is what it is and that's the here and now. I'm at the biggest weight I have ever been and have again a pant size since beginning IE when I took the no forbidden foods to be a joyous reprieve. Sunny Fat Photos A pal just posted a bunch of recent photos of me on facebook. I look huge. How do you resist the urge to diet when you see photos or have to buy new clothes? It's been a rough month. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 This has been a new shift for me so I am doing a lot of soul searching. Sometimes it feels like I am using diet mentality again. When I write if my food journal things like " I shouldn't have had that " or " I should have something healthy " that seems like diet mentality. Sandy Hi again, Sandy. I agree that mind and body should work hand in hand. :-) My body tells me I'm hungry, I'm looking for food, my mind sees that I have choices of food to make. ?? :-) During my unrestrained 'training' period, I allowed my mind to tell me, the whole person, that I am allowed to stuff my face with anything I want. Now I'm thinking different, because if I'm going to stuff my face (and I don't always want to), I will hopefully choose what my mind says won't kill me right away. LOL! I agree both of us have to get a handle on things since the body is saying it's, um, going in a way we don't want it to? Always a pleasure, Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 10:25 AMSubject: Re: Fat Photos I also eat fast and will be slowing that down to savor the food. I also will be more careful with my choices without banning any foods. I think I took this " no forbidden foods " and neglected the rest of the IE: to listen to body, eat slowly, enjoy what I eat. I have gained weight and am very uncomfortable. But more than that my lab work cmae back with poor liver function tests. The doctor took me offLopid and wants me to have low cholesterol healthy food choices. I think this is a wake up call for me that ells me I have been listening to my mind, not my body as somebody mention. Giving myself unconditional permission to eat any foods may not mean eating as much of it as I think I want. That's where slowing down would help me know when I am full. Any way this is a whole new way of thinking and I haven't quite got the whole of it. I do know something changed, for the better I think. Time will tell. Sandy Hi, Sunny. You did say that you allowed yourself to eat unrestrainedly all those forbidden foods for a while, right? Perhaps I misunderstood you. I did the same thing and after about a year of doing so, I weighed myself, stepped back and gasped, and suddenly stopped eating all that stuff. All I can say from my own experience is you'll get there as you continue being more mindful. I tend to eat very quickly and I'm going to work on savoring my food, making it a more pleasurable experience. That is a weakness with me as well, so when I'm full I don't want to stop eating because the experience has been so quick. Diets don't work, Perhaps both of us can work on eating more slowly as we enjoy our food? Tai To: " IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 11:41 PMSubject: Re: Fat Photos Tai my problem isn't with eating too many " fun " food. Sure i've had desserts guilt free since starting IE My problem is more that i still absentmindedly eat too fast And i don't stop when i should sometimes. I'm very comfortable with not going hog wild for sweets but i still have to work on the hunger and full signs. SunnySent from my iTouch Sunny -- I did the same thing. i took the allowance to eat all the 'forbidden' foods I wanted as a reason for me to stock the house with candy, ice cream, peanuts, any crap (junk) I could get my hands on into the mouth. Did I gain weight? You sure bet I did. As I kept needing to buy bigger and bigger clothes, I finally weighed myself (gasp -- gained lots of weight -- surprise surprise) and realized this free-for-all was not working, and by working I mean it did not cause me to lose weight. Surprise, surprise! At that moment, I stopped eating all the extra extra's. I realized I must work on IE, that is, having what I want but when I'm hungry, and instead of candy, have real food. I allow myself the candy, and so forth, but it's no longer the temptation it was. I don't feel the NEED to sit down with a bag of candy any more, I did that for a year and just as they say ... I stopped doing it. I know I can have it if I want to. When you get " fed up " enough, literally, you'll stop, too. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:21 PMSubject: Re: Fat Photos Well, if I lose weight significantly enough to make a difference in the appearance in pictures, then yes, they would be " before " pics, but alas it is what it is and that's the here and now. I'm at the biggest weight I have ever been and have again a pant size since beginning IE when I took the no forbidden foods to be a joyous reprieve. Sunny Fat Photos A pal just posted a bunch of recent photos of me on facebook. I look huge. How do you resist the urge to diet when you see photos or have to buy new clothes? It's been a rough month. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 You know, Sunny, sometimes I used to sit at a restaurant and bolt my food down. I was worried someone would look at me and think I was such a slob. I'm thinking as we're talking -- after a few bites, who needs that much anyway? I'm working on it. Furthermore, as I'm answering you and thinking about my present state of stomach, I feel full. So I can tell myself I really don't want to eat now. Food will be delicious when I eat it later. :-) Really enjoying all our conversations here...thanks! TaiFrom: "ert4dogz@..." To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 1:12 PMSubject: Re: Fat Photos You know Tai, I like your way of putting why we don't stop when we eat so fast. You're right, it's like I haven't had enough time to enjoy it even though I know I've had enough. So I will make more effort to enjoy the bites. I haven't been overly full lately but I know I could stop sooner. Then I go the other extreme, thinking I'm no longer hungry I do stop only to find myself quite hungry again in an hour and half to 2 hours. When that happens I do allow myself to eat but by the end of the day I've eaten a lot more than the days I when I don't stop a meal so soon. It's such a fine line and after a lifetime of bolting my food, I haven't quite gotten a good strong notification of "appropriately full" yet. I did allow myself to eat anything I wanted in the early days, I still do when it comes to choices. I did have to learn that being able to eat anything didn't mean it was ok to eat everything, if you get what I mean. But I must say, I really didn't go nuts and eat all the once forbidden foods. I believe it was more the amount of food and not the forbiddance of it that caused my weight gain. I often like to have a small sweet after dinner but I am not wanting sweets any other time...I have chosen carbs more than I would have before... Sunny Fat Photos A pal just posted a bunch of recent photos of me on facebook. I look huge. How do you resist the urge to diet when you see photos or have to buy new clothes? It's been a rough month. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 You know, Sunny, sometimes I used to sit at a restaurant and bolt my food down. I was worried someone would look at me and think I was such a slob. I'm thinking as we're talking -- after a few bites, who needs that much anyway? I'm working on it. Furthermore, as I'm answering you and thinking about my present state of stomach, I feel full. So I can tell myself I really don't want to eat now. Food will be delicious when I eat it later. :-) Really enjoying all our conversations here...thanks! TaiFrom: "ert4dogz@..." To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 1:12 PMSubject: Re: Fat Photos You know Tai, I like your way of putting why we don't stop when we eat so fast. You're right, it's like I haven't had enough time to enjoy it even though I know I've had enough. So I will make more effort to enjoy the bites. I haven't been overly full lately but I know I could stop sooner. Then I go the other extreme, thinking I'm no longer hungry I do stop only to find myself quite hungry again in an hour and half to 2 hours. When that happens I do allow myself to eat but by the end of the day I've eaten a lot more than the days I when I don't stop a meal so soon. It's such a fine line and after a lifetime of bolting my food, I haven't quite gotten a good strong notification of "appropriately full" yet. I did allow myself to eat anything I wanted in the early days, I still do when it comes to choices. I did have to learn that being able to eat anything didn't mean it was ok to eat everything, if you get what I mean. But I must say, I really didn't go nuts and eat all the once forbidden foods. I believe it was more the amount of food and not the forbiddance of it that caused my weight gain. I often like to have a small sweet after dinner but I am not wanting sweets any other time...I have chosen carbs more than I would have before... Sunny Fat Photos A pal just posted a bunch of recent photos of me on facebook. I look huge. How do you resist the urge to diet when you see photos or have to buy new clothes? It's been a rough month. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 You know, Sunny, sometimes I used to sit at a restaurant and bolt my food down. I was worried someone would look at me and think I was such a slob. I'm thinking as we're talking -- after a few bites, who needs that much anyway? I'm working on it. Furthermore, as I'm answering you and thinking about my present state of stomach, I feel full. So I can tell myself I really don't want to eat now. Food will be delicious when I eat it later. :-) Really enjoying all our conversations here...thanks! TaiFrom: "ert4dogz@..." To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 1:12 PMSubject: Re: Fat Photos You know Tai, I like your way of putting why we don't stop when we eat so fast. You're right, it's like I haven't had enough time to enjoy it even though I know I've had enough. So I will make more effort to enjoy the bites. I haven't been overly full lately but I know I could stop sooner. Then I go the other extreme, thinking I'm no longer hungry I do stop only to find myself quite hungry again in an hour and half to 2 hours. When that happens I do allow myself to eat but by the end of the day I've eaten a lot more than the days I when I don't stop a meal so soon. It's such a fine line and after a lifetime of bolting my food, I haven't quite gotten a good strong notification of "appropriately full" yet. I did allow myself to eat anything I wanted in the early days, I still do when it comes to choices. I did have to learn that being able to eat anything didn't mean it was ok to eat everything, if you get what I mean. But I must say, I really didn't go nuts and eat all the once forbidden foods. I believe it was more the amount of food and not the forbiddance of it that caused my weight gain. I often like to have a small sweet after dinner but I am not wanting sweets any other time...I have chosen carbs more than I would have before... Sunny Fat Photos A pal just posted a bunch of recent photos of me on facebook. I look huge. How do you resist the urge to diet when you see photos or have to buy new clothes? It's been a rough month. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 The problem with that is that some things are clearly better for you than others. To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 1:49 PMSubject: Re: Fat Photos This has been a new shift for me so I am doing a lot of soul searching. Sometimes it feels like I am using diet mentality again. When I write if my food journal things like "I shouldn't have had that" or "I should have something healthy" that seems like diet mentality. Sandy Hi again, Sandy. I agree that mind and body should work hand in hand. :-) My body tells me I'm hungry, I'm looking for food, my mind sees that I have choices of food to make. ?? :-) During my unrestrained 'training' period, I allowed my mind to tell me, the whole person, that I am allowed to stuff my face with anything I want. Now I'm thinking different, because if I'm going to stuff my face (and I don't always want to), I will hopefully choose what my mind says won't kill me right away. LOL! I agree both of us have to get a handle on things since the body is saying it's, um, going in a way we don't want it to? Always a pleasure, Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 10:25 AMSubject: Re: Fat Photos I also eat fast and will be slowing that down to savor the food. I also will be more careful with my choices without banning any foods. I think I took this "no forbidden foods" and neglected the rest of the IE: to listen to body, eat slowly, enjoy what I eat. I have gained weight and am very uncomfortable. But more than that my lab work cmae back with poor liver function tests. The doctor took me offLopid and wants me to have low cholesterol healthy food choices. I think this is a wake up call for me that ells me I have been listening to my mind, not my body as somebody mention. Giving myself unconditional permission to eat any foods may not mean eating as much of it as I think I want. That's where slowing down would help me know when I am full. Any way this is a whole new way of thinking and I haven't quite got the whole of it. I do know something changed, for the better I think. Time will tell. Sandy Hi, Sunny. You did say that you allowed yourself to eat unrestrainedly all those forbidden foods for a while, right? Perhaps I misunderstood you. I did the same thing and after about a year of doing so, I weighed myself, stepped back and gasped, and suddenly stopped eating all that stuff. All I can say from my own experience is you'll get there as you continue being more mindful. I tend to eat very quickly and I'm going to work on savoring my food, making it a more pleasurable experience. That is a weakness with me as well, so when I'm full I don't want to stop eating because the experience has been so quick. Diets don't work, Perhaps both of us can work on eating more slowly as we enjoy our food? Tai To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 11:41 PMSubject: Re: Fat Photos Tai my problem isn't with eating too many "fun" food. Sure i've had desserts guilt free since starting IE My problem is more that i still absentmindedly eat too fast And i don't stop when i should sometimes. I'm very comfortable with not going hog wild for sweets but i still have to work on the hunger and full signs. SunnySent from my iTouch Sunny -- I did the same thing. i took the allowance to eat all the 'forbidden' foods I wanted as a reason for me to stock the house with candy, ice cream, peanuts, any crap (junk) I could get my hands on into the mouth. Did I gain weight? You sure bet I did. As I kept needing to buy bigger and bigger clothes, I finally weighed myself (gasp -- gained lots of weight -- surprise surprise) and realized this free-for-all was not working, and by working I mean it did not cause me to lose weight. Surprise, surprise! At that moment, I stopped eating all the extra extra's. I realized I must work on IE, that is, having what I want but when I'm hungry, and instead of candy, have real food. I allow myself the candy, and so forth, but it's no longer the temptation it was. I don't feel the NEED to sit down with a bag of candy any more, I did that for a year and just as they say ... I stopped doing it. I know I can have it if I want to. When you get "fed up" enough, literally, you'll stop, too. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:21 PMSubject: Re: Fat Photos Well, if I lose weight significantly enough to make a difference in the appearance in pictures, then yes, they would be "before" pics, but alas it is what it is and that's the here and now. I'm at the biggest weight I have ever been and have again a pant size since beginning IE when I took the no forbidden foods to be a joyous reprieve. Sunny Fat Photos A pal just posted a bunch of recent photos of me on facebook. I look huge. How do you resist the urge to diet when you see photos or have to buy new clothes? It's been a rough month. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Wow, you guys really took this thread and ran with it! Thanks for the encouragement and tips. I caught my profile in a store window today and it was painful. I just had to remind myself that I didn't get this way overnight and I'm not going to lose it overnight. Now if I could just motivate myself to hit this swim class... > > > Sunny -- I did the same thing. i took the allowance to eat all the 'forbidden' foods I wanted as a reason for me to stock the house with candy, ice cream, peanuts, any crap (junk) I could get my hands on into the mouth. Did I gain weight? You sure bet I did. As I kept needing to buy bigger and bigger clothes, I finally weighed myself (gasp -- gained lots of weight -- surprise surprise) and realized this free-for-all was not working, and by working I mean it did not cause me to lose weight. Surprise, surprise! At that moment, I stopped eating all the extra extra's. I realized I must work on IE, that is, having what I want but when I'm hungry, and instead of candy, have real food. I allow myself the candy, and so forth, but it's no longer the temptation it was. I don't feel the NEED to sit down with a bag of candy any more, I did that for a year and just as they say ... I stopped doing it. I know I can have it if I want to. When you get " fed up " enough, > literally, you'll stop, too. Tai > > > > > > > > > >To: IntuitiveEating_Support > >Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:21 PM > >Subject: Re: Fat Photos > > > > > > > >Well, if I lose weight significantly enough to make a difference in the appearance in pictures, then yes, they would be " before " pics, but alas it is what it is and that's the here and now. I'm at the biggest weight I have ever been and have again a pant size since beginning IE when I took the no forbidden foods to be a joyous reprieve. > > > >Sunny > > > > > > > > > > Fat Photos > >> > >> > >>A pal just posted a bunch of recent photos of me on facebook. I look huge. How > do you resist the urge to diet when you see photos or have to buy new clothes? > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 wrote: > Oh that is cool to think about!! I'm going to give that some thought > after work today!! Wow, that's really powerful! When I did that exercise I felt scared and anxious. Best wishes s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 Omg i cant believe Ive been so busy i cant even remember what this was about? Seems i deleted the original email. What was this exercise again please? Sunny Sent from my iTouch > wrote: > >> Oh that is cool to think about!! I'm going to give that some thought >> after work today!! Wow, that's really powerful! > > When I did that exercise I felt scared and anxious. > > Best wishes > s. > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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