hello everyone

[Guest guest]

I am pretty much a lurker but I decided to come out of my shell and talk. I mainly need to talk because I am sure that someone here has some feedback and has been where my head is right now. I am one of those people, like so many, who have gone on all the diets throughout my life. I have even had my time in the rooms of OA. Of course none of it worked long term for me. For some reason though I can't get my head out of OA mindset. Not in a good way either. It's like a guilty nagging feeling that I need to go back to those rooms because I am brainwashed that I am a food addict. The kicker is I don't think I even believe that such a thing exists. I know I am a compulsive over eater and I know a lot of it stems from dysfunctional events of my childhood but I just can't be successful with that program. The restricting makes me nuts and throws me more into binge eating. So why does this program haunt me so much? I have to admit that some days the thoughts about going back into program are so strong that they make me a little sad feeling. I have to snap myself out of it. Which is what I am doing right now by going for a walk.

I would like to know if anyone else has gone through this and are there any tips for cutting the cord to OA mentally?

Dawn

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

To dream of the person you would like to beis to waste the person you are...

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

[Guest guest]

I've been in and out of OA for a long time. I don't think it's incompatible with IE because each individual gets to decide what abstinence is for themselves. It should be easy enough to define it as the IE plan, and find a sponsor to support that. The thing I have problems with in OA is the 12 step program. Or, sometimes I do, and other times I think it's great. I'm thinking about going back to OA for the group support, and for the one on one sponsor support. Rain

From: Zen RNSent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 6:45 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: hello everyone

I am pretty much a lurker but I decided to come out of my shell and talk. I mainly need to talk because I am sure that someone here has some feedback and has been where my head is right now. I am one of those people, like so many, who have gone on all the diets throughout my life. I have even had my time in the rooms of OA. Of course none of it worked long term for me. For some reason though I can't get my head out of OA mindset. Not in a good way either. It's like a guilty nagging feeling that I need to go back to those rooms because I am brainwashed that I am a food addict. The kicker is I don't think I even believe that such a thing exists. I know I am a compulsive over eater and I know a lot of it stems from dysfunctional events of my childhood but I just can't be successful with that program. The restricting makes me nuts and throws me more into binge eating. So why does this program haunt me so much? I have to admit that some days the thoughts about going back into program are so strong that they make me a little sad feeling. I have to snap myself out of it. Which is what I am doing right now by going for a walk.

I would like to know if anyone else has gone through this and are there any tips for cutting the cord to OA mentally?

Dawn

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

To dream of the person you would like to beis to waste the person you are...

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

[Guest guest]

I've been in and out of OA for a long time. I don't think it's incompatible with IE because each individual gets to decide what abstinence is for themselves. It should be easy enough to define it as the IE plan, and find a sponsor to support that. The thing I have problems with in OA is the 12 step program. Or, sometimes I do, and other times I think it's great. I'm thinking about going back to OA for the group support, and for the one on one sponsor support. Rain

From: Zen RNSent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 6:45 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: hello everyone

I am pretty much a lurker but I decided to come out of my shell and talk. I mainly need to talk because I am sure that someone here has some feedback and has been where my head is right now. I am one of those people, like so many, who have gone on all the diets throughout my life. I have even had my time in the rooms of OA. Of course none of it worked long term for me. For some reason though I can't get my head out of OA mindset. Not in a good way either. It's like a guilty nagging feeling that I need to go back to those rooms because I am brainwashed that I am a food addict. The kicker is I don't think I even believe that such a thing exists. I know I am a compulsive over eater and I know a lot of it stems from dysfunctional events of my childhood but I just can't be successful with that program. The restricting makes me nuts and throws me more into binge eating. So why does this program haunt me so much? I have to admit that some days the thoughts about going back into program are so strong that they make me a little sad feeling. I have to snap myself out of it. Which is what I am doing right now by going for a walk.

I would like to know if anyone else has gone through this and are there any tips for cutting the cord to OA mentally?

Dawn

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

To dream of the person you would like to beis to waste the person you are...

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

[Guest guest]

I have decided I have a problem. I know it sounds silly, but right now I'm thinking I should put all the danger foods in a faraway but accessible place, such as my storage bin. No diet. Just put away those danger foods. That's my latest thought. I hope I do it. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2011 8:00 PMSubject: RE: hello everyone

I've been in and out of OA for a long time. I don't think it's incompatible with IE because each individual gets to decide what abstinence is for themselves. It should be easy enough to define it as the IE plan, and find a sponsor to support that. The thing I have problems with in OA is the 12 step program. Or, sometimes I do, and other times I think it's great. I'm thinking about going back to OA for the group support, and for the one on one sponsor support. Rain

From: Zen RNSent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 6:45 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: hello everyone

I am pretty much a lurker but I decided to come out of my shell and talk. I mainly need to talk because I am sure that someone here has some feedback and has been where my head is right now. I am one of those people, like so many, who have gone on all the diets throughout my life. I have even had my time in the rooms of OA. Of course none of it worked long term for me. For some reason though I can't get my head out of OA mindset. Not in a good way either. It's like a guilty nagging feeling that I need to go back to those rooms because I am brainwashed that I am a food addict. The kicker is I don't think I even believe that such a thing exists. I know I am a compulsive over eater and I know a lot of it stems from dysfunctional events of my childhood but I just can't be successful with that program. The restricting makes me nuts and throws me more into binge eating. So why does this program haunt me so much? I have to admit

that some days the thoughts about going back into program are so strong that they make me a little sad feeling. I have to snap myself out of it. Which is what I am doing right now by going for a walk.

I would like to know if anyone else has gone through this and are there any tips for cutting the cord to OA mentally?

Dawn

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

To dream of the person you would like to beis to waste the person you are...

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

[Guest guest]

I have decided I have a problem. I know it sounds silly, but right now I'm thinking I should put all the danger foods in a faraway but accessible place, such as my storage bin. No diet. Just put away those danger foods. That's my latest thought. I hope I do it. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2011 8:00 PMSubject: RE: hello everyone

I've been in and out of OA for a long time. I don't think it's incompatible with IE because each individual gets to decide what abstinence is for themselves. It should be easy enough to define it as the IE plan, and find a sponsor to support that. The thing I have problems with in OA is the 12 step program. Or, sometimes I do, and other times I think it's great. I'm thinking about going back to OA for the group support, and for the one on one sponsor support. Rain

From: Zen RNSent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 6:45 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: hello everyone

I am pretty much a lurker but I decided to come out of my shell and talk. I mainly need to talk because I am sure that someone here has some feedback and has been where my head is right now. I am one of those people, like so many, who have gone on all the diets throughout my life. I have even had my time in the rooms of OA. Of course none of it worked long term for me. For some reason though I can't get my head out of OA mindset. Not in a good way either. It's like a guilty nagging feeling that I need to go back to those rooms because I am brainwashed that I am a food addict. The kicker is I don't think I even believe that such a thing exists. I know I am a compulsive over eater and I know a lot of it stems from dysfunctional events of my childhood but I just can't be successful with that program. The restricting makes me nuts and throws me more into binge eating. So why does this program haunt me so much? I have to admit

that some days the thoughts about going back into program are so strong that they make me a little sad feeling. I have to snap myself out of it. Which is what I am doing right now by going for a walk.

I would like to know if anyone else has gone through this and are there any tips for cutting the cord to OA mentally?

Dawn

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

To dream of the person you would like to beis to waste the person you are...

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

[Guest guest]

I have decided I have a problem. I know it sounds silly, but right now I'm thinking I should put all the danger foods in a faraway but accessible place, such as my storage bin. No diet. Just put away those danger foods. That's my latest thought. I hope I do it. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2011 8:00 PMSubject: RE: hello everyone

I've been in and out of OA for a long time. I don't think it's incompatible with IE because each individual gets to decide what abstinence is for themselves. It should be easy enough to define it as the IE plan, and find a sponsor to support that. The thing I have problems with in OA is the 12 step program. Or, sometimes I do, and other times I think it's great. I'm thinking about going back to OA for the group support, and for the one on one sponsor support. Rain

From: Zen RNSent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 6:45 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: hello everyone

I am pretty much a lurker but I decided to come out of my shell and talk. I mainly need to talk because I am sure that someone here has some feedback and has been where my head is right now. I am one of those people, like so many, who have gone on all the diets throughout my life. I have even had my time in the rooms of OA. Of course none of it worked long term for me. For some reason though I can't get my head out of OA mindset. Not in a good way either. It's like a guilty nagging feeling that I need to go back to those rooms because I am brainwashed that I am a food addict. The kicker is I don't think I even believe that such a thing exists. I know I am a compulsive over eater and I know a lot of it stems from dysfunctional events of my childhood but I just can't be successful with that program. The restricting makes me nuts and throws me more into binge eating. So why does this program haunt me so much? I have to admit

that some days the thoughts about going back into program are so strong that they make me a little sad feeling. I have to snap myself out of it. Which is what I am doing right now by going for a walk.

I would like to know if anyone else has gone through this and are there any tips for cutting the cord to OA mentally?

Dawn

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

To dream of the person you would like to beis to waste the person you are...

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

[Guest guest]

Tai,I think it is reasonable to put the glitter foods in a more out of the way place. They are still accessible, but it won't be possible to eat them unconsciously.CaroleTo: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Sun, July 3, 2011 8:50:08 PMSubject: Re: hello everyone

I have decided I have a problem. I know it sounds silly, but right now I'm thinking I should put all the danger foods in a faraway but accessible place, such as my storage bin. No diet. Just put away those danger foods. That's my latest thought. I hope I do it. Tai

_._,___

[Guest guest]

Tai,I think it is reasonable to put the glitter foods in a more out of the way place. They are still accessible, but it won't be possible to eat them unconsciously.CaroleTo: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Sun, July 3, 2011 8:50:08 PMSubject: Re: hello everyone

I have decided I have a problem. I know it sounds silly, but right now I'm thinking I should put all the danger foods in a faraway but accessible place, such as my storage bin. No diet. Just put away those danger foods. That's my latest thought. I hope I do it. Tai

_._,___

[Guest guest]

Tai its been awhile since I've read the IE book, but upon looking at it again,

what the authors suggest The Key is UNCONDITIONAL permission to eat. Otherwise

its restrictive which triggers rebellion and that usually means binging.

Yes those extra steps and placing seductive foods out of immediate reach could

assist in helping you to be more mindful about your eating. But my own previous

experience from restriction attempts informs me that really doesn't work. I

never bought cookies, cakes or pies thinking that making these would slow me

down. HA! I just became an 'ace' baker!

One of the scariest suggestions for me was legalizing which I did with my arch

enemy (ha ha) - chocolate. I bought bags full from the bulk section at my

grocery store and put that into a glass storage jar on my kitchen counter. At

first I found that I nibbled a handful almost every time I was in the kitchen. I

found this to be fun in a little kid sneaking way and at the same time scary

because I felt I was DRAWN to the chocolate! I trusted in the process not

because I immediately got sick of chocolate, but because I wanted the results -

to overcome my chocolate focus. It took me months before I found that chocolate

was no big deal. What I also learned was that I was being triggered by the SIGHT

of the chocolate, not the taste or how my body felt to eating it. I now enjoy

chocolate, but am more picky about its taste and leaving it in a cabinet instead

of in a glass jar doesn't feel like I am trying to 'trick' myself.

My inner little kid also had a delight with Halloween candy. Having masses of

assorted candies was a heaven for me since that only happened once a year when I

was a child. I still find myself buying lots of the day-after marked down candy

each Nov. 1st. But after a few nibbles the colorful candy corn sits in that

glass jar more as decor than desire to eat. And after time when I am 'drawn' to

it in a quasi binge mode, its fun to find that the 'stale' taste is probably not

all that far off from the 'fresh' taste - both are like YUCK! after a very few.

I hope you too can find what works best for you as you make peace with food. I

know I am happily finding that food has almost become a 'chore' for me rather

than something I jousted with most of my waking day and some times even at night

too! Re your storage placement idea, maybe your body is seeking exercise - even

just a walk 'away'?

BEST to you, Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> I have decided I have a problem. I know it sounds silly, but right now I'm

thinking I should put all the danger foods in a faraway but accessible place,

such as my storage bin. No diet. Just put away those danger foods. That's my

latest thought. I hope I do it. Tai

>

[Guest guest]

Tai its been awhile since I've read the IE book, but upon looking at it again,

what the authors suggest The Key is UNCONDITIONAL permission to eat. Otherwise

its restrictive which triggers rebellion and that usually means binging.

Yes those extra steps and placing seductive foods out of immediate reach could

assist in helping you to be more mindful about your eating. But my own previous

experience from restriction attempts informs me that really doesn't work. I

never bought cookies, cakes or pies thinking that making these would slow me

down. HA! I just became an 'ace' baker!

One of the scariest suggestions for me was legalizing which I did with my arch

enemy (ha ha) - chocolate. I bought bags full from the bulk section at my

grocery store and put that into a glass storage jar on my kitchen counter. At

first I found that I nibbled a handful almost every time I was in the kitchen. I

found this to be fun in a little kid sneaking way and at the same time scary

because I felt I was DRAWN to the chocolate! I trusted in the process not

because I immediately got sick of chocolate, but because I wanted the results -

to overcome my chocolate focus. It took me months before I found that chocolate

was no big deal. What I also learned was that I was being triggered by the SIGHT

of the chocolate, not the taste or how my body felt to eating it. I now enjoy

chocolate, but am more picky about its taste and leaving it in a cabinet instead

of in a glass jar doesn't feel like I am trying to 'trick' myself.

My inner little kid also had a delight with Halloween candy. Having masses of

assorted candies was a heaven for me since that only happened once a year when I

was a child. I still find myself buying lots of the day-after marked down candy

each Nov. 1st. But after a few nibbles the colorful candy corn sits in that

glass jar more as decor than desire to eat. And after time when I am 'drawn' to

it in a quasi binge mode, its fun to find that the 'stale' taste is probably not

all that far off from the 'fresh' taste - both are like YUCK! after a very few.

I hope you too can find what works best for you as you make peace with food. I

know I am happily finding that food has almost become a 'chore' for me rather

than something I jousted with most of my waking day and some times even at night

too! Re your storage placement idea, maybe your body is seeking exercise - even

just a walk 'away'?

BEST to you, Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> I have decided I have a problem. I know it sounds silly, but right now I'm

thinking I should put all the danger foods in a faraway but accessible place,

such as my storage bin. No diet. Just put away those danger foods. That's my

latest thought. I hope I do it. Tai

>

[Guest guest]

Tai its been awhile since I've read the IE book, but upon looking at it again,

what the authors suggest The Key is UNCONDITIONAL permission to eat. Otherwise

its restrictive which triggers rebellion and that usually means binging.

Yes those extra steps and placing seductive foods out of immediate reach could

assist in helping you to be more mindful about your eating. But my own previous

experience from restriction attempts informs me that really doesn't work. I

never bought cookies, cakes or pies thinking that making these would slow me

down. HA! I just became an 'ace' baker!

One of the scariest suggestions for me was legalizing which I did with my arch

enemy (ha ha) - chocolate. I bought bags full from the bulk section at my

grocery store and put that into a glass storage jar on my kitchen counter. At

first I found that I nibbled a handful almost every time I was in the kitchen. I

found this to be fun in a little kid sneaking way and at the same time scary

because I felt I was DRAWN to the chocolate! I trusted in the process not

because I immediately got sick of chocolate, but because I wanted the results -

to overcome my chocolate focus. It took me months before I found that chocolate

was no big deal. What I also learned was that I was being triggered by the SIGHT

of the chocolate, not the taste or how my body felt to eating it. I now enjoy

chocolate, but am more picky about its taste and leaving it in a cabinet instead

of in a glass jar doesn't feel like I am trying to 'trick' myself.

My inner little kid also had a delight with Halloween candy. Having masses of

assorted candies was a heaven for me since that only happened once a year when I

was a child. I still find myself buying lots of the day-after marked down candy

each Nov. 1st. But after a few nibbles the colorful candy corn sits in that

glass jar more as decor than desire to eat. And after time when I am 'drawn' to

it in a quasi binge mode, its fun to find that the 'stale' taste is probably not

all that far off from the 'fresh' taste - both are like YUCK! after a very few.

I hope you too can find what works best for you as you make peace with food. I

know I am happily finding that food has almost become a 'chore' for me rather

than something I jousted with most of my waking day and some times even at night

too! Re your storage placement idea, maybe your body is seeking exercise - even

just a walk 'away'?

BEST to you, Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> I have decided I have a problem. I know it sounds silly, but right now I'm

thinking I should put all the danger foods in a faraway but accessible place,

such as my storage bin. No diet. Just put away those danger foods. That's my

latest thought. I hope I do it. Tai

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Dawn,

Lovely to read your post. I only one time attended an OA group and while it was

a small one with pretty much like minded gals, it just didn't appeal to me.

My reaction to reading what you said brings to mind the concern of being a 'good

little girl' which translates to EXternal orientation - as in following all the

'right' rules. Imagine how sick we would become if we had to TELL our bodies to

have a fever when an infection attacked us. It seems to me that eating really

ought to be as automatically driven. Yet we learn 'food rules' so early that

none of us remember the lessons! What it took me the longest time to incorporate

of IE was that eating is an INternal driven need for my body. And while of

course my mind is a part of my body, it had too long been ruling OVER what my

stomach, blood sugar and subtle cravings were trying to tell me.

If OA helps you to find your way to return to eating for body hunger go for it.

I never was much of a group oriented participant myself, however I have to say

that I really do credit being in this group with supporting me to get going and

stay on track with my own IE journey. May you find the support you need too.

BEST to you, Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> I am pretty much a lurker but I decided to come out of my shell and talk. I

mainly need to talk because I am sure that someone here has some feedback and

has been where my head is right now. I am one of those people, like so many, who

have gone on all the diets throughout my life. I have even had my time in the

rooms of OA. Of course none of it worked long term for me. For some reason

though I can't get my head out of OA mindset. Not in a good way either. It's

like a guilty nagging feeling that I need to go back to those rooms because I am

brainwashed that I am a food addict. The kicker is I don't think I even believe

that such a thing exists. I know I am a compulsive over eater and I know a lot

of it stems from dysfunctional events of my childhood but I just can't be

successful with that program. The restricting makes me nuts and throws me more

into binge eating. So why does this program haunt me so much? I have to admit

that some days the thoughts about going back into program are so strong that

they make me a little sad feeling. I have to snap myself out of it. Which is

what I am doing right now by going for a walk.

>

> I would like to know if anyone else has gone through this and are there any

tips for cutting the cord to OA mentally?

>

> Dawn

>

> ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

>

> To dream of the person you would like to be

> is to waste the person you are...

>

> ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Dawn,

Lovely to read your post. I only one time attended an OA group and while it was

a small one with pretty much like minded gals, it just didn't appeal to me.

My reaction to reading what you said brings to mind the concern of being a 'good

little girl' which translates to EXternal orientation - as in following all the

'right' rules. Imagine how sick we would become if we had to TELL our bodies to

have a fever when an infection attacked us. It seems to me that eating really

ought to be as automatically driven. Yet we learn 'food rules' so early that

none of us remember the lessons! What it took me the longest time to incorporate

of IE was that eating is an INternal driven need for my body. And while of

course my mind is a part of my body, it had too long been ruling OVER what my

stomach, blood sugar and subtle cravings were trying to tell me.

If OA helps you to find your way to return to eating for body hunger go for it.

I never was much of a group oriented participant myself, however I have to say

that I really do credit being in this group with supporting me to get going and

stay on track with my own IE journey. May you find the support you need too.

BEST to you, Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> I am pretty much a lurker but I decided to come out of my shell and talk. I

mainly need to talk because I am sure that someone here has some feedback and

has been where my head is right now. I am one of those people, like so many, who

have gone on all the diets throughout my life. I have even had my time in the

rooms of OA. Of course none of it worked long term for me. For some reason

though I can't get my head out of OA mindset. Not in a good way either. It's

like a guilty nagging feeling that I need to go back to those rooms because I am

brainwashed that I am a food addict. The kicker is I don't think I even believe

that such a thing exists. I know I am a compulsive over eater and I know a lot

of it stems from dysfunctional events of my childhood but I just can't be

successful with that program. The restricting makes me nuts and throws me more

into binge eating. So why does this program haunt me so much? I have to admit

that some days the thoughts about going back into program are so strong that

they make me a little sad feeling. I have to snap myself out of it. Which is

what I am doing right now by going for a walk.

>

> I would like to know if anyone else has gone through this and are there any

tips for cutting the cord to OA mentally?

>

> Dawn

>

> ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

>

> To dream of the person you would like to be

> is to waste the person you are...

>

> ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Dawn,

Lovely to read your post. I only one time attended an OA group and while it was

a small one with pretty much like minded gals, it just didn't appeal to me.

My reaction to reading what you said brings to mind the concern of being a 'good

little girl' which translates to EXternal orientation - as in following all the

'right' rules. Imagine how sick we would become if we had to TELL our bodies to

have a fever when an infection attacked us. It seems to me that eating really

ought to be as automatically driven. Yet we learn 'food rules' so early that

none of us remember the lessons! What it took me the longest time to incorporate

of IE was that eating is an INternal driven need for my body. And while of

course my mind is a part of my body, it had too long been ruling OVER what my

stomach, blood sugar and subtle cravings were trying to tell me.

If OA helps you to find your way to return to eating for body hunger go for it.

I never was much of a group oriented participant myself, however I have to say

that I really do credit being in this group with supporting me to get going and

stay on track with my own IE journey. May you find the support you need too.

BEST to you, Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> I am pretty much a lurker but I decided to come out of my shell and talk. I

mainly need to talk because I am sure that someone here has some feedback and

has been where my head is right now. I am one of those people, like so many, who

have gone on all the diets throughout my life. I have even had my time in the

rooms of OA. Of course none of it worked long term for me. For some reason

though I can't get my head out of OA mindset. Not in a good way either. It's

like a guilty nagging feeling that I need to go back to those rooms because I am

brainwashed that I am a food addict. The kicker is I don't think I even believe

that such a thing exists. I know I am a compulsive over eater and I know a lot

of it stems from dysfunctional events of my childhood but I just can't be

successful with that program. The restricting makes me nuts and throws me more

into binge eating. So why does this program haunt me so much? I have to admit

that some days the thoughts about going back into program are so strong that

they make me a little sad feeling. I have to snap myself out of it. Which is

what I am doing right now by going for a walk.

>

> I would like to know if anyone else has gone through this and are there any

tips for cutting the cord to OA mentally?

>

> Dawn

>

> ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

>

> To dream of the person you would like to be

> is to waste the person you are...

>

> ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

>

[Guest guest]

I don't know what others have done, but the way I've dealt with this is eating only when hungry and stopping when full. After a few meals, I'm just not hungry for cake anymore (cake has always been my biggest glitter food). Allowing myself to eat it, but only when bodily hungry, hasn't made it stop glittering entirely, but I want it far less because I can have it any time. It doesn't make me feel good though. Rain

From: Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 3:06 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: hello everyone

Tai,I think it is reasonable to put the glitter foods in a more out of the way place. They are still accessible, but it won't be possible to eat them unconsciously.Carole

To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Sun, July 3, 2011 8:50:08 PMSubject: Re: hello everyone

I have decided I have a problem. I know it sounds silly, but right now I'm thinking I should put all the danger foods in a faraway but accessible place, such as my storage bin. No diet. Just put away those danger foods. That's my latest thought. I hope I do it. Tai

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[Guest guest]

I don't know what others have done, but the way I've dealt with this is eating only when hungry and stopping when full. After a few meals, I'm just not hungry for cake anymore (cake has always been my biggest glitter food). Allowing myself to eat it, but only when bodily hungry, hasn't made it stop glittering entirely, but I want it far less because I can have it any time. It doesn't make me feel good though. Rain

From: Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 3:06 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: hello everyone

Tai,I think it is reasonable to put the glitter foods in a more out of the way place. They are still accessible, but it won't be possible to eat them unconsciously.Carole

To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Sun, July 3, 2011 8:50:08 PMSubject: Re: hello everyone

I have decided I have a problem. I know it sounds silly, but right now I'm thinking I should put all the danger foods in a faraway but accessible place, such as my storage bin. No diet. Just put away those danger foods. That's my latest thought. I hope I do it. Tai

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[Guest guest]

I don't know what others have done, but the way I've dealt with this is eating only when hungry and stopping when full. After a few meals, I'm just not hungry for cake anymore (cake has always been my biggest glitter food). Allowing myself to eat it, but only when bodily hungry, hasn't made it stop glittering entirely, but I want it far less because I can have it any time. It doesn't make me feel good though. Rain

From: Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 3:06 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: hello everyone

Tai,I think it is reasonable to put the glitter foods in a more out of the way place. They are still accessible, but it won't be possible to eat them unconsciously.Carole

To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Sun, July 3, 2011 8:50:08 PMSubject: Re: hello everyone

I have decided I have a problem. I know it sounds silly, but right now I'm thinking I should put all the danger foods in a faraway but accessible place, such as my storage bin. No diet. Just put away those danger foods. That's my latest thought. I hope I do it. Tai

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[Guest guest]

The other thing is that allowing myself to have cake, means I never eat candy, cookies or doughnuts. Not that I wouldn't but, why have those when there is cake?

From: RainSent: Monday, July 04, 2011 10:54 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: RE: hello everyone

I don't know what others have done, but the way I've dealt with this is eating only when hungry and stopping when full. After a few meals, I'm just not hungry for cake anymore (cake has always been my biggest glitter food). Allowing myself to eat it, but only when bodily hungry, hasn't made it stop glittering entirely, but I want it far less because I can have it any time. It doesn't make me feel good though. Rain

From: Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 3:06 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: hello everyone

Tai,I think it is reasonable to put the glitter foods in a more out of the way place. They are still accessible, but it won't be possible to eat them unconsciously.Carole

To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Sun, July 3, 2011 8:50:08 PMSubject: Re: hello everyone

I have decided I have a problem. I know it sounds silly, but right now I'm thinking I should put all the danger foods in a faraway but accessible place, such as my storage bin. No diet. Just put away those danger foods. That's my latest thought. I hope I do it. Tai

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[Guest guest]

It was lots easier for me to make peace with ALL food when I began to remove the

labels 'good' and 'bad' and focused on honoring my hunger (what as well as

when). Good/bad reflects a judgmental decision (aka should) instead of making

how my body felt from eating X the criteria for choosing.

One thing I read in the IE book that made me smile and stuck with me was how one

of the authors preferred the title 'play' over 'junk' food. Subtle but

effective.

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

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> I don't know what others have done, but the way I've dealt with this is eating

only when hungry and stopping when full. After a few meals, I'm just not hungry

for cake anymore (cake has always been my biggest glitter food). Allowing

myself to eat it, but only when bodily hungry, hasn't made it stop glittering

entirely, but I want it far less because I can have it any time. It doesn't make

me feel good though.

Rain

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> Re: hello everyone

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>

> I have decided I have a problem. I know it sounds silly, but right now I'm

thinking I should put all the danger foods in a faraway but accessible place,

such as my storage bin. No diet. Just put away those danger foods. That's my

latest thought. I hope I do it. Tai

>

> _._,___

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[Guest guest]

It was lots easier for me to make peace with ALL food when I began to remove the

labels 'good' and 'bad' and focused on honoring my hunger (what as well as

when). Good/bad reflects a judgmental decision (aka should) instead of making

how my body felt from eating X the criteria for choosing.

One thing I read in the IE book that made me smile and stuck with me was how one

of the authors preferred the title 'play' over 'junk' food. Subtle but

effective.

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> I don't know what others have done, but the way I've dealt with this is eating

only when hungry and stopping when full. After a few meals, I'm just not hungry

for cake anymore (cake has always been my biggest glitter food). Allowing

myself to eat it, but only when bodily hungry, hasn't made it stop glittering

entirely, but I want it far less because I can have it any time. It doesn't make

me feel good though.

Rain

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> Re: hello everyone

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>

>

>

> I have decided I have a problem. I know it sounds silly, but right now I'm

thinking I should put all the danger foods in a faraway but accessible place,

such as my storage bin. No diet. Just put away those danger foods. That's my

latest thought. I hope I do it. Tai

>

> _._,___

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[Guest guest]

It was lots easier for me to make peace with ALL food when I began to remove the

labels 'good' and 'bad' and focused on honoring my hunger (what as well as

when). Good/bad reflects a judgmental decision (aka should) instead of making

how my body felt from eating X the criteria for choosing.

One thing I read in the IE book that made me smile and stuck with me was how one

of the authors preferred the title 'play' over 'junk' food. Subtle but

effective.

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> I don't know what others have done, but the way I've dealt with this is eating

only when hungry and stopping when full. After a few meals, I'm just not hungry

for cake anymore (cake has always been my biggest glitter food). Allowing

myself to eat it, but only when bodily hungry, hasn't made it stop glittering

entirely, but I want it far less because I can have it any time. It doesn't make

me feel good though.

Rain

>

> Re: hello everyone

>

>

>

>

> I have decided I have a problem. I know it sounds silly, but right now I'm

thinking I should put all the danger foods in a faraway but accessible place,

such as my storage bin. No diet. Just put away those danger foods. That's my

latest thought. I hope I do it. Tai

>

> _._,___

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[Guest guest]

It is satisfying to eat just what you want! Bravo for you :-)

Katcha

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> The other thing is that allowing myself to have cake, means I never eat candy,

cookies or doughnuts. Not that I wouldn't but, why have those when there is

cake?

[Guest guest]

It is satisfying to eat just what you want! Bravo for you :-)

Katcha

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> The other thing is that allowing myself to have cake, means I never eat candy,

cookies or doughnuts. Not that I wouldn't but, why have those when there is

cake?

[Guest guest]

It is satisfying to eat just what you want! Bravo for you :-)

Katcha

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> The other thing is that allowing myself to have cake, means I never eat candy,

cookies or doughnuts. Not that I wouldn't but, why have those when there is

cake?

[Guest guest]

Thanks Katcha. I'm going to have to read the book again, bt thanks for the reminder abot the unconditional permission to eat. Peace with food - what a wonderful thought! TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, July 4, 2011 11:09 AMSubject: Re: hello everyone

Tai its been awhile since I've read the IE book, but upon looking at it again, what the authors suggest The Key is UNCONDITIONAL permission to eat. Otherwise its restrictive which triggers rebellion and that usually means binging.

Yes those extra steps and placing seductive foods out of immediate reach could assist in helping you to be more mindful about your eating. But my own previous experience from restriction attempts informs me that really doesn't work. I never bought cookies, cakes or pies thinking that making these would slow me down. HA! I just became an 'ace' baker!

One of the scariest suggestions for me was legalizing which I did with my arch enemy (ha ha) - chocolate. I bought bags full from the bulk section at my grocery store and put that into a glass storage jar on my kitchen counter. At first I found that I nibbled a handful almost every time I was in the kitchen. I found this to be fun in a little kid sneaking way and at the same time scary because I felt I was DRAWN to the chocolate! I trusted in the process not because I immediately got sick of chocolate, but because I wanted the results - to overcome my chocolate focus. It took me months before I found that chocolate was no big deal. What I also learned was that I was being triggered by the SIGHT of the chocolate, not the taste or how my body felt to eating it. I now enjoy chocolate, but am more picky about its taste and leaving it in a cabinet instead of in a glass jar doesn't feel like I am trying to 'trick' myself.

My inner little kid also had a delight with Halloween candy. Having masses of assorted candies was a heaven for me since that only happened once a year when I was a child. I still find myself buying lots of the day-after marked down candy each Nov. 1st. But after a few nibbles the colorful candy corn sits in that glass jar more as decor than desire to eat. And after time when I am 'drawn' to it in a quasi binge mode, its fun to find that the 'stale' taste is probably not all that far off from the 'fresh' taste - both are like YUCK! after a very few.

I hope you too can find what works best for you as you make peace with food. I know I am happily finding that food has almost become a 'chore' for me rather than something I jousted with most of my waking day and some times even at night too! Re your storage placement idea, maybe your body is seeking exercise - even just a walk 'away'?

BEST to you, Katcha

IEing since March 2007

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> I have decided I have a problem. I know it sounds silly, but right now I'm thinking I should put all the danger foods in a faraway but accessible place, such as my storage bin. No diet. Just put away those danger foods. That's my latest thought. I hope I do it. Tai

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