Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Thanks Katcha. I'm going to have to read the book again, bt thanks for the reminder abot the unconditional permission to eat. Peace with food - what a wonderful thought! TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, July 4, 2011 11:09 AMSubject: Re: hello everyone Tai its been awhile since I've read the IE book, but upon looking at it again, what the authors suggest The Key is UNCONDITIONAL permission to eat. Otherwise its restrictive which triggers rebellion and that usually means binging. Yes those extra steps and placing seductive foods out of immediate reach could assist in helping you to be more mindful about your eating. But my own previous experience from restriction attempts informs me that really doesn't work. I never bought cookies, cakes or pies thinking that making these would slow me down. HA! I just became an 'ace' baker! One of the scariest suggestions for me was legalizing which I did with my arch enemy (ha ha) - chocolate. I bought bags full from the bulk section at my grocery store and put that into a glass storage jar on my kitchen counter. At first I found that I nibbled a handful almost every time I was in the kitchen. I found this to be fun in a little kid sneaking way and at the same time scary because I felt I was DRAWN to the chocolate! I trusted in the process not because I immediately got sick of chocolate, but because I wanted the results - to overcome my chocolate focus. It took me months before I found that chocolate was no big deal. What I also learned was that I was being triggered by the SIGHT of the chocolate, not the taste or how my body felt to eating it. I now enjoy chocolate, but am more picky about its taste and leaving it in a cabinet instead of in a glass jar doesn't feel like I am trying to 'trick' myself. My inner little kid also had a delight with Halloween candy. Having masses of assorted candies was a heaven for me since that only happened once a year when I was a child. I still find myself buying lots of the day-after marked down candy each Nov. 1st. But after a few nibbles the colorful candy corn sits in that glass jar more as decor than desire to eat. And after time when I am 'drawn' to it in a quasi binge mode, its fun to find that the 'stale' taste is probably not all that far off from the 'fresh' taste - both are like YUCK! after a very few. I hope you too can find what works best for you as you make peace with food. I know I am happily finding that food has almost become a 'chore' for me rather than something I jousted with most of my waking day and some times even at night too! Re your storage placement idea, maybe your body is seeking exercise - even just a walk 'away'? BEST to you, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I have decided I have a problem. I know it sounds silly, but right now I'm thinking I should put all the danger foods in a faraway but accessible place, such as my storage bin. No diet. Just put away those danger foods. That's my latest thought. I hope I do it. Tai > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Thanks Katcha. I'm going to have to read the book again, bt thanks for the reminder abot the unconditional permission to eat. Peace with food - what a wonderful thought! TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, July 4, 2011 11:09 AMSubject: Re: hello everyone Tai its been awhile since I've read the IE book, but upon looking at it again, what the authors suggest The Key is UNCONDITIONAL permission to eat. Otherwise its restrictive which triggers rebellion and that usually means binging. Yes those extra steps and placing seductive foods out of immediate reach could assist in helping you to be more mindful about your eating. But my own previous experience from restriction attempts informs me that really doesn't work. I never bought cookies, cakes or pies thinking that making these would slow me down. HA! I just became an 'ace' baker! One of the scariest suggestions for me was legalizing which I did with my arch enemy (ha ha) - chocolate. I bought bags full from the bulk section at my grocery store and put that into a glass storage jar on my kitchen counter. At first I found that I nibbled a handful almost every time I was in the kitchen. I found this to be fun in a little kid sneaking way and at the same time scary because I felt I was DRAWN to the chocolate! I trusted in the process not because I immediately got sick of chocolate, but because I wanted the results - to overcome my chocolate focus. It took me months before I found that chocolate was no big deal. What I also learned was that I was being triggered by the SIGHT of the chocolate, not the taste or how my body felt to eating it. I now enjoy chocolate, but am more picky about its taste and leaving it in a cabinet instead of in a glass jar doesn't feel like I am trying to 'trick' myself. My inner little kid also had a delight with Halloween candy. Having masses of assorted candies was a heaven for me since that only happened once a year when I was a child. I still find myself buying lots of the day-after marked down candy each Nov. 1st. But after a few nibbles the colorful candy corn sits in that glass jar more as decor than desire to eat. And after time when I am 'drawn' to it in a quasi binge mode, its fun to find that the 'stale' taste is probably not all that far off from the 'fresh' taste - both are like YUCK! after a very few. I hope you too can find what works best for you as you make peace with food. I know I am happily finding that food has almost become a 'chore' for me rather than something I jousted with most of my waking day and some times even at night too! Re your storage placement idea, maybe your body is seeking exercise - even just a walk 'away'? BEST to you, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I have decided I have a problem. I know it sounds silly, but right now I'm thinking I should put all the danger foods in a faraway but accessible place, such as my storage bin. No diet. Just put away those danger foods. That's my latest thought. I hope I do it. Tai > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Tai isn't it maddening that we have made food 'the enemy'?!? How silly when I think about it - food is NECESSARY for life! Yet we have come to fear it and think we must avoid it. Rather ironic, if not a touch suicidal?!?? What I found challenging, but turned out to be very positive, was to change over my thinking of food from adversary to play thing! It really does not help us to struggle with IE, PLAY with it, make eating as FUN as you can. Experiment, test tastes, savor if you can and revel in the soothing thought that you are not only nurturing yourself, you are also dumping diet demons and empowering the delightful little child that lives in all of us. BEST to you, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Thanks Katcha. I'm going to have to read the book again, bt thanks for the reminder abot the unconditional permission to eat. Peace with food - what a wonderful thought! Tai > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Tai isn't it maddening that we have made food 'the enemy'?!? How silly when I think about it - food is NECESSARY for life! Yet we have come to fear it and think we must avoid it. Rather ironic, if not a touch suicidal?!?? What I found challenging, but turned out to be very positive, was to change over my thinking of food from adversary to play thing! It really does not help us to struggle with IE, PLAY with it, make eating as FUN as you can. Experiment, test tastes, savor if you can and revel in the soothing thought that you are not only nurturing yourself, you are also dumping diet demons and empowering the delightful little child that lives in all of us. BEST to you, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Thanks Katcha. I'm going to have to read the book again, bt thanks for the reminder abot the unconditional permission to eat. Peace with food - what a wonderful thought! Tai > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Tai isn't it maddening that we have made food 'the enemy'?!? How silly when I think about it - food is NECESSARY for life! Yet we have come to fear it and think we must avoid it. Rather ironic, if not a touch suicidal?!?? What I found challenging, but turned out to be very positive, was to change over my thinking of food from adversary to play thing! It really does not help us to struggle with IE, PLAY with it, make eating as FUN as you can. Experiment, test tastes, savor if you can and revel in the soothing thought that you are not only nurturing yourself, you are also dumping diet demons and empowering the delightful little child that lives in all of us. BEST to you, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Thanks Katcha. I'm going to have to read the book again, bt thanks for the reminder abot the unconditional permission to eat. Peace with food - what a wonderful thought! Tai > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 You are quite right, Katcha. Food has become the enemy or adversary, yet we have to eat. Our bodies and minds remind us that we have to eat. Writing about food makes me think about food and eating. sigh. I think SIMPLE magazine had a piece in it where it said that patients who ate 3 apples a day lost weight. Who would want to eat 3 apples a day? Maybe that's what's wrong. I don't want to eat 3 apples a day. I don't really want to eat one apple a day, but I could try. But that would be a diet mentality, wouldn't it? TaiFrom: jain_daugh To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2011 11:06 AMSubject: Re: hello everyone Tai isn't it maddening that we have made food 'the enemy'?!? How silly when I think about it - food is NECESSARY for life! Yet we have come to fear it and think we must avoid it. Rather ironic, if not a touch suicidal?!?? What I found challenging, but turned out to be very positive, was to change over my thinking of food from adversary to play thing! It really does not help us to struggle with IE, PLAY with it, make eating as FUN as you can. Experiment, test tastes, savor if you can and revel in the soothing thought that you are not only nurturing yourself, you are also dumping diet demons and empowering the delightful little child that lives in all of us. BEST to you, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Thanks Katcha. I'm going to have to read the book again, bt thanks for the reminder abot the unconditional permission to eat. Peace with food - what a wonderful thought! Tai > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 You are quite right, Katcha. Food has become the enemy or adversary, yet we have to eat. Our bodies and minds remind us that we have to eat. Writing about food makes me think about food and eating. sigh. I think SIMPLE magazine had a piece in it where it said that patients who ate 3 apples a day lost weight. Who would want to eat 3 apples a day? Maybe that's what's wrong. I don't want to eat 3 apples a day. I don't really want to eat one apple a day, but I could try. But that would be a diet mentality, wouldn't it? TaiFrom: jain_daugh To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2011 11:06 AMSubject: Re: hello everyone Tai isn't it maddening that we have made food 'the enemy'?!? How silly when I think about it - food is NECESSARY for life! Yet we have come to fear it and think we must avoid it. Rather ironic, if not a touch suicidal?!?? What I found challenging, but turned out to be very positive, was to change over my thinking of food from adversary to play thing! It really does not help us to struggle with IE, PLAY with it, make eating as FUN as you can. Experiment, test tastes, savor if you can and revel in the soothing thought that you are not only nurturing yourself, you are also dumping diet demons and empowering the delightful little child that lives in all of us. BEST to you, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Thanks Katcha. I'm going to have to read the book again, bt thanks for the reminder abot the unconditional permission to eat. Peace with food - what a wonderful thought! Tai > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 You are quite right, Katcha. Food has become the enemy or adversary, yet we have to eat. Our bodies and minds remind us that we have to eat. Writing about food makes me think about food and eating. sigh. I think SIMPLE magazine had a piece in it where it said that patients who ate 3 apples a day lost weight. Who would want to eat 3 apples a day? Maybe that's what's wrong. I don't want to eat 3 apples a day. I don't really want to eat one apple a day, but I could try. But that would be a diet mentality, wouldn't it? TaiFrom: jain_daugh To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2011 11:06 AMSubject: Re: hello everyone Tai isn't it maddening that we have made food 'the enemy'?!? How silly when I think about it - food is NECESSARY for life! Yet we have come to fear it and think we must avoid it. Rather ironic, if not a touch suicidal?!?? What I found challenging, but turned out to be very positive, was to change over my thinking of food from adversary to play thing! It really does not help us to struggle with IE, PLAY with it, make eating as FUN as you can. Experiment, test tastes, savor if you can and revel in the soothing thought that you are not only nurturing yourself, you are also dumping diet demons and empowering the delightful little child that lives in all of us. BEST to you, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Thanks Katcha. I'm going to have to read the book again, bt thanks for the reminder abot the unconditional permission to eat. Peace with food - what a wonderful thought! Tai > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 You are quite right, Katcha. Food has become the enemy or adversary, yet we have to eat. Our bodies and minds remind us that we have to eat. Writing about food makes me think about food and eating. sigh. I think SIMPLE magazine had a piece in it where it said that patients who ate 3 apples a day lost weight. Who would want to eat 3 apples a day? Maybe that's what's wrong. I don't want to eat 3 apples a day. I don't really want to eat one apple a day, but I could try. But that would be a diet mentality, wouldn't it? Tai I would. I love apples. I just can't because it would make me sick. Patti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 You are quite right, Katcha. Food has become the enemy or adversary, yet we have to eat. Our bodies and minds remind us that we have to eat. Writing about food makes me think about food and eating. sigh. I think SIMPLE magazine had a piece in it where it said that patients who ate 3 apples a day lost weight. Who would want to eat 3 apples a day? Maybe that's what's wrong. I don't want to eat 3 apples a day. I don't really want to eat one apple a day, but I could try. But that would be a diet mentality, wouldn't it? Tai I would. I love apples. I just can't because it would make me sick. Patti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 You are quite right, Katcha. Food has become the enemy or adversary, yet we have to eat. Our bodies and minds remind us that we have to eat. Writing about food makes me think about food and eating. sigh. I think SIMPLE magazine had a piece in it where it said that patients who ate 3 apples a day lost weight. Who would want to eat 3 apples a day? Maybe that's what's wrong. I don't want to eat 3 apples a day. I don't really want to eat one apple a day, but I could try. But that would be a diet mentality, wouldn't it? Tai I would. I love apples. I just can't because it would make me sick. Patti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Patti, Apples and grapefruit, that's what I've been reading. I can understand apples; I have to work on this and remember to buy apples, hoping I'll eat them. Same with grapefruit; stdies have shown that people do seem to lose weight that eat grapefruit every day. It is so hard to make choices. The media, yes, it has hyped us up about food and the need to eat more and more. And constantly. Also, we only think we are well-educated regarding food. Most of us are not. TaiTo: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 4:31 AMSubject: Re: Re: hello everyone You are quite right, Katcha. Food has become the enemy or adversary, yet we have to eat. Our bodies and minds remind us that we have to eat. Writing about food makes me think about food and eating. sigh. I think SIMPLE magazine had a piece in it where it said that patients who ate 3 apples a day lost weight. Who would want to eat 3 apples a day? Maybe that's what's wrong. I don't want to eat 3 apples a day. I don't really want to eat one apple a day, but I could try. But that would be a diet mentality, wouldn't it? Tai I would. I love apples. I just can't because it would make me sick. Patti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 The reason it works is it replaces some other food you might eat. If you drank water, it would dothe same thing. Patti Patti, Apples and grapefruit, that's what I've been reading. I can understand apples; I have to work on this and remember to buy apples, hoping I'll eat them. Same with grapefruit; stdies have shown that people do seem to lose weight that eat grapefruit every day. It is so hard to make choices. The media, yes, it has hyped us up about food and the need to eat more and more. And constantly. Also, we only think we are well-educated regarding food. Most of us are not. TaiTo: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 4:31 AMSubject: Re: Re: hello everyone You are quite right, Katcha. Food has become the enemy or adversary, yet we have to eat. Our bodies and minds remind us that we have to eat. Writing about food makes me think about food and eating. sigh. I think SIMPLE magazine had a piece in it where it said that patients who ate 3 apples a day lost weight. Who would want to eat 3 apples a day? Maybe that's what's wrong. I don't want to eat 3 apples a day. I don't really want to eat one apple a day, but I could try. But that would be a diet mentality, wouldn't it? Tai I would. I love apples. I just can't because it would make me sick. Patti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 I would say to just try and incorporate more fruits and vegetables in general for health raasons. Why just stick to apples and grapefruits? To do so because of supposed weight loss reasons so diet mentality which is so not IE. But, if you don't like apples, then don't buy them. Only buy fruits that taste good to you. Right now the melons and berries are so wonderful as well as peaches, plums and nectarines. How about trying some pineapple, mango or papaya. They all have such wonderful vitamins and antioxidants. Just my input. Alana > > >  > >You are quite right, Katcha. Food has become the enemy or adversary, yet we have to eat. Our bodies and minds remind us that we have to eat. Writing about food makes me think about food and eating. sigh. I think SIMPLE magazine had a piece in it where it said that patients who ate 3 apples a day lost weight. Who would want to eat 3 apples a day? Maybe that's what's wrong. I don't want to eat 3 apples a day. I don't really want to eat one apple a day, but I could try. But that would be a diet mentality, wouldn't it? Tai > > > > > >I would. I love apples. I just can't because it would make me sick. > > Patti > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 I would say to just try and incorporate more fruits and vegetables in general for health raasons. Why just stick to apples and grapefruits? To do so because of supposed weight loss reasons so diet mentality which is so not IE. But, if you don't like apples, then don't buy them. Only buy fruits that taste good to you. Right now the melons and berries are so wonderful as well as peaches, plums and nectarines. How about trying some pineapple, mango or papaya. They all have such wonderful vitamins and antioxidants. Just my input. Alana > > >  > >You are quite right, Katcha. Food has become the enemy or adversary, yet we have to eat. Our bodies and minds remind us that we have to eat. Writing about food makes me think about food and eating. sigh. I think SIMPLE magazine had a piece in it where it said that patients who ate 3 apples a day lost weight. Who would want to eat 3 apples a day? Maybe that's what's wrong. I don't want to eat 3 apples a day. I don't really want to eat one apple a day, but I could try. But that would be a diet mentality, wouldn't it? Tai > > > > > >I would. I love apples. I just can't because it would make me sick. > > Patti > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 Yes, Alana, I bought some nice fresh pineapple and have it every morning and sometimes during the day. I also have mangoes, in season here. I like to start my day with fresh fruit. :-) Tai (So far no apples but I still like grapefruit -- next time.)To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 11:04 AMSubject: Re: hello everyone I would say to just try and incorporate more fruits and vegetables in general for health raasons. Why just stick to apples and grapefruits? To do so because of supposed weight loss reasons so diet mentality which is so not IE. But, if you don't like apples, then don't buy them. Only buy fruits that taste good to you. Right now the melons and berries are so wonderful as well as peaches, plums and nectarines. How about trying some pineapple, mango or papaya. They all have such wonderful vitamins and antioxidants. Just my input. Alana > > >  > >You are quite right, Katcha. Food has become the enemy or adversary, yet we have to eat. Our bodies and minds remind us that we have to eat. Writing about food makes me think about food and eating. sigh. I think SIMPLE magazine had a piece in it where it said that patients who ate 3 apples a day lost weight. Who would want to eat 3 apples a day? Maybe that's what's wrong. I don't want to eat 3 apples a day. I don't really want to eat one apple a day, but I could try. But that would be a diet mentality, wouldn't it? Tai > > > > > >I would. I love apples. I just can't because it would make me sick. > > Patti > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 hmmm, that's interesting, Patti. Never thought of it that way, but it sounds true. TaiTo: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 7:06 AMSubject: Re: Re: hello everyone The reason it works is it replaces some other food you might eat. If you drank water, it would dothe same thing. Patti Patti, Apples and grapefruit, that's what I've been reading. I can understand apples; I have to work on this and remember to buy apples, hoping I'll eat them. Same with grapefruit; stdies have shown that people do seem to lose weight that eat grapefruit every day. It is so hard to make choices. The media, yes, it has hyped us up about food and the need to eat more and more. And constantly. Also, we only think we are well-educated regarding food. Most of us are not. TaiTo: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 4:31 AMSubject: Re: Re: hello everyone You are quite right, Katcha. Food has become the enemy or adversary, yet we have to eat. Our bodies and minds remind us that we have to eat. Writing about food makes me think about food and eating. sigh. I think SIMPLE magazine had a piece in it where it said that patients who ate 3 apples a day lost weight. Who would want to eat 3 apples a day? Maybe that's what's wrong. I don't want to eat 3 apples a day. I don't really want to eat one apple a day, but I could try. But that would be a diet mentality, wouldn't it? Tai I would. I love apples. I just can't because it would make me sick. Patti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 From what I’ve read, at the beginning for us it’s not about good nutrition but it’s about making peace with food. If that means eating three pears and no apples, go for it. Don’t eat food just because it’s good for you, eat food because it’s the food you want at that moment. Of course, I’m doing a lot of speculating here and welcome anyone to correct me….I’m pretty new to this. Kate From: IntuitiveEating_Support [mailto:IntuitiveEating_Support ] On Behalf Of Tailyn Grey Speaking of which, now that you mention it, I know I would get full from 3 apples a day, and I don't like apples that much. I think that's what bothers me about that. Maybe I can work that into 1 apple, 1 pear (which I like), and 1 other fresh fruit. ??? don't know yet. Tai From: Patti Thorp <clicklbd@... The reason it works is it replaces some other food you might eat. If you drank water, it would dothe same thing. Patti Patti, Apples and grapefruit, that's what I've been reading. I can understand apples; I have to work on this and remember to buy apples, hoping I'll eat them. Same with grapefruit; stdies have shown that people do seem to lose weight that eat grapefruit every day. It is so hard to make choices. The media, yes, it has hyped us up about food and the need to eat more and more. And constantly. Also, we only think we are well-educated regarding food. Most of us are not. Tai From: Patti Thorp On Jul 5, 2011, at 11:16 PM, Tailyn Grey wrote: You are quite right, Katcha. Food has become the enemy or adversary, yet we have to eat. Our bodies and minds remind us that we have to eat. Writing about food makes me think about food and eating. sigh. I think SIMPLE magazine had a piece in it where it said that patients who ate 3 apples a day lost weight. Who would want to eat 3 apples a day? Maybe that's what's wrong. I don't want to eat 3 apples a day. I don't really want to eat one apple a day, but I could try. But that would be a diet mentality, wouldn't it? Tai I would. I love apples. I just can't because it would make me sick. Patti ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 From what I’ve read, at the beginning for us it’s not about good nutrition but it’s about making peace with food. If that means eating three pears and no apples, go for it. Don’t eat food just because it’s good for you, eat food because it’s the food you want at that moment. Of course, I’m doing a lot of speculating here and welcome anyone to correct me….I’m pretty new to this. Kate From: IntuitiveEating_Support [mailto:IntuitiveEating_Support ] On Behalf Of Tailyn Grey Speaking of which, now that you mention it, I know I would get full from 3 apples a day, and I don't like apples that much. I think that's what bothers me about that. Maybe I can work that into 1 apple, 1 pear (which I like), and 1 other fresh fruit. ??? don't know yet. Tai From: Patti Thorp <clicklbd@... The reason it works is it replaces some other food you might eat. If you drank water, it would dothe same thing. Patti Patti, Apples and grapefruit, that's what I've been reading. I can understand apples; I have to work on this and remember to buy apples, hoping I'll eat them. Same with grapefruit; stdies have shown that people do seem to lose weight that eat grapefruit every day. It is so hard to make choices. The media, yes, it has hyped us up about food and the need to eat more and more. And constantly. Also, we only think we are well-educated regarding food. Most of us are not. Tai From: Patti Thorp On Jul 5, 2011, at 11:16 PM, Tailyn Grey wrote: You are quite right, Katcha. Food has become the enemy or adversary, yet we have to eat. Our bodies and minds remind us that we have to eat. Writing about food makes me think about food and eating. sigh. I think SIMPLE magazine had a piece in it where it said that patients who ate 3 apples a day lost weight. Who would want to eat 3 apples a day? Maybe that's what's wrong. I don't want to eat 3 apples a day. I don't really want to eat one apple a day, but I could try. But that would be a diet mentality, wouldn't it? Tai I would. I love apples. I just can't because it would make me sick. Patti ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 From what I’ve read, at the beginning for us it’s not about good nutrition but it’s about making peace with food. If that means eating three pears and no apples, go for it. Don’t eat food just because it’s good for you, eat food because it’s the food you want at that moment. Of course, I’m doing a lot of speculating here and welcome anyone to correct me….I’m pretty new to this. Kate From: IntuitiveEating_Support [mailto:IntuitiveEating_Support ] On Behalf Of Tailyn Grey Speaking of which, now that you mention it, I know I would get full from 3 apples a day, and I don't like apples that much. I think that's what bothers me about that. Maybe I can work that into 1 apple, 1 pear (which I like), and 1 other fresh fruit. ??? don't know yet. Tai From: Patti Thorp <clicklbd@... The reason it works is it replaces some other food you might eat. If you drank water, it would dothe same thing. Patti Patti, Apples and grapefruit, that's what I've been reading. I can understand apples; I have to work on this and remember to buy apples, hoping I'll eat them. Same with grapefruit; stdies have shown that people do seem to lose weight that eat grapefruit every day. It is so hard to make choices. The media, yes, it has hyped us up about food and the need to eat more and more. And constantly. Also, we only think we are well-educated regarding food. Most of us are not. Tai From: Patti Thorp On Jul 5, 2011, at 11:16 PM, Tailyn Grey wrote: You are quite right, Katcha. Food has become the enemy or adversary, yet we have to eat. Our bodies and minds remind us that we have to eat. Writing about food makes me think about food and eating. sigh. I think SIMPLE magazine had a piece in it where it said that patients who ate 3 apples a day lost weight. Who would want to eat 3 apples a day? Maybe that's what's wrong. I don't want to eat 3 apples a day. I don't really want to eat one apple a day, but I could try. But that would be a diet mentality, wouldn't it? Tai I would. I love apples. I just can't because it would make me sick. Patti ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 If you don't really like apples, why are you trying to eat them? I hate salmon. I don't care how healthy salmon is. I hate it, I won't eat it. End of story. If I forced myself to eat salmon just because it's healthy, I know I would rebel and become resentful. If you don't really like apples, why eat them? Speaking of which, now that you mention it, I know I would get full from 3 apples a day, and I don't like apples that much. I think that's what bothers me about that. Maybe I can work that into 1 apple, 1 pear (which I like), and 1 other fresh fruit. ??? don't know yet. Tai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 Well, because I read that if you eat 3 apples a day, you will lose weight. And I need to lose weight. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 11:47 PMSubject: Re: Re: hello everyone If you don't really like apples, why are you trying to eat them? I hate salmon. I don't care how healthy salmon is. I hate it, I won't eat it. End of story. If I forced myself to eat salmon just because it's healthy, I know I would rebel and become resentful. If you don't really like apples, why eat them? Speaking of which, now that you mention it, I know I would get full from 3 apples a day, and I don't like apples that much. I think that's what bothers me about that. Maybe I can work that into 1 apple, 1 pear (which I like), and 1 other fresh fruit. ??? don't know yet. Tai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 Tai, I would challenge that premise. That if you eat 3 apples a day you will lose weight. That sounds like diet mentality in disguise. What if you ate 3 peaches a day, or carrots, or whatever. Well if it works for you then fine, but if you can't eat apples then it doesn't work for you. If I ate three apples a day I would have a real belly ache, have reflux, and either on the toilet a lot or bound up. I hope this does not sound like preaching. I was just so surprised by the premise. Sandy  Well, because I read that if you eat 3 apples a day, you will lose weight. And I need to lose weight. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 11:47 PMSubject: Re: Re: hello everyone  If you don't really like apples, why are you trying to eat them? I hate salmon. I don't care how healthy salmon is. I hate it, I won't eat it. End of story. If I forced myself to eat salmon just because it's healthy, I know I would rebel and become resentful. If you don't really like apples, why eat them?  Speaking of which, now that you mention it, I know I would get full from 3 apples a day, and I don't like apples that much. I think that's what bothers me about that. Maybe I can work that into 1 apple, 1 pear (which I like), and 1 other fresh fruit. ??? don't know yet. Tai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 If I ate three apples a day, I would be bored and I would rebel by eating a lot of something else I really like. Probably chocolate.But beyond that...you don't like apples "that much." That's what you said. Why choke down 21 apples a week if you don't really like apples? That doesn't make sense. It's not honoring yourself, your body, or what you like. Choking down food you don't like is pure diet mentality. "Well, I hate these dry rice cakes, but they should help me lose weight..." Speaking of which, now that you mention it, I know I would get full from 3 apples a day, and I don't like apples that much. I think that's what bothers me about that. Maybe I can work that into 1 apple, 1 pear (which I like), and 1 other fresh fruit. ??? don't know yet. Tai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 If I ate three apples a day, I would be bored and I would rebel by eating a lot of something else I really like. Probably chocolate.But beyond that...you don't like apples "that much." That's what you said. Why choke down 21 apples a week if you don't really like apples? That doesn't make sense. It's not honoring yourself, your body, or what you like. Choking down food you don't like is pure diet mentality. "Well, I hate these dry rice cakes, but they should help me lose weight..." Speaking of which, now that you mention it, I know I would get full from 3 apples a day, and I don't like apples that much. I think that's what bothers me about that. Maybe I can work that into 1 apple, 1 pear (which I like), and 1 other fresh fruit. ??? don't know yet. Tai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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