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, Good points. Thanks. I wonder if I ate chocolate 3x a day that I would get bored and rebel by eating apples.  I wouldn't have to choke down the chocolate though.  Or maybe after a week I would.  My fear is that by then I would have gained a lot of weight.  That sounds like sneaky diet mentality too. I can see where doing that with chocolate would not make that much sense and would not be honoring myself, body or what I really like such as apples, fruit, vegetables, etc.  I could sure relate to choking down those rice cakes.  Although I liked them sometimes, with butter and jelly of course(ha,ha).  That really seems so absurd now. Sandy

 

If I ate three apples a day, I would be bored and I would rebel by eating a lot of something else I really like.  Probably chocolate.

But beyond that...you don't like apples " that much. "   That's what you said.  Why choke down 21 apples a week if you don't really like apples?  That doesn't make sense.  It's not honoring yourself, your body, or what you like. 

Choking down food you don't like is pure diet mentality.  " Well, I hate these dry rice cakes, but they should help me lose weight... "

 

Speaking of which, now that you mention it, I know I would get full from 3 apples a day, and I don't like apples that much. I think that's what bothers me about that. Maybe I can work that into 1 apple, 1 pear (which I like), and 1 other fresh fruit. ??? don't know yet. Tai

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, Good points. Thanks. I wonder if I ate chocolate 3x a day that I would get bored and rebel by eating apples.  I wouldn't have to choke down the chocolate though.  Or maybe after a week I would.  My fear is that by then I would have gained a lot of weight.  That sounds like sneaky diet mentality too. I can see where doing that with chocolate would not make that much sense and would not be honoring myself, body or what I really like such as apples, fruit, vegetables, etc.  I could sure relate to choking down those rice cakes.  Although I liked them sometimes, with butter and jelly of course(ha,ha).  That really seems so absurd now. Sandy

 

If I ate three apples a day, I would be bored and I would rebel by eating a lot of something else I really like.  Probably chocolate.

But beyond that...you don't like apples " that much. "   That's what you said.  Why choke down 21 apples a week if you don't really like apples?  That doesn't make sense.  It's not honoring yourself, your body, or what you like. 

Choking down food you don't like is pure diet mentality.  " Well, I hate these dry rice cakes, but they should help me lose weight... "

 

Speaking of which, now that you mention it, I know I would get full from 3 apples a day, and I don't like apples that much. I think that's what bothers me about that. Maybe I can work that into 1 apple, 1 pear (which I like), and 1 other fresh fruit. ??? don't know yet. Tai

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Well, I like oranges. Not so much apples. Maybe I'll try eating 3 oranges a day. :-) haha only kidding but maybe not. Someone told me today she's starting Nutrisystem. she asked me if I thought she'd lose weight on it. Yes, I replied and inwardly sighed because I did it and it worked, and I wished I could try it again, but I know it won't really work with me because I've been there, done that and would not want to keep it up with Nutrisystem. I know I'd lose weight if I stuck to it, but at a certain point, I'd go back to where I came from.

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, Good points. Thanks. I wonder if I ate chocolate 3x a day that I would get bored and rebel by eating apples. I wouldn't have to choke down the chocolate though. Or maybe after a week I would. My fear is that by then I would have gained a lot of weight. That sounds like sneaky diet mentality too. I can see where doing that with chocolate would not make that much sense and would not be honoring myself, body or what I really like such as apples, fruit, vegetables, etc. I could sure relate to choking down those rice cakes. Although I liked them sometimes, with butter and jelly of course(ha,ha). That really seems so absurd now. Sandy

If I ate three apples a day, I would be bored and I would rebel by eating a lot of something else I really like. Probably chocolate.But beyond that...you don't like apples "that much." That's what you said. Why choke down 21 apples a week if you don't really like apples? That doesn't make sense. It's not honoring yourself, your body, or what you like. Choking down food you don't like is pure diet mentality. "Well, I hate these dry rice cakes, but they should help me lose weight..."

Speaking of which, now that you mention it, I know I would get full from 3 apples a day, and I don't like apples that much. I think that's what bothers me about that. Maybe I can work that into 1 apple, 1 pear (which I like), and 1 other fresh fruit. ??? don't know yet. Tai

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Well, I like oranges. Not so much apples. Maybe I'll try eating 3 oranges a day. :-) haha only kidding but maybe not. Someone told me today she's starting Nutrisystem. she asked me if I thought she'd lose weight on it. Yes, I replied and inwardly sighed because I did it and it worked, and I wished I could try it again, but I know it won't really work with me because I've been there, done that and would not want to keep it up with Nutrisystem. I know I'd lose weight if I stuck to it, but at a certain point, I'd go back to where I came from.

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 7:21 AMSubject: Re: Re: hello everyone

, Good points. Thanks. I wonder if I ate chocolate 3x a day that I would get bored and rebel by eating apples. I wouldn't have to choke down the chocolate though. Or maybe after a week I would. My fear is that by then I would have gained a lot of weight. That sounds like sneaky diet mentality too. I can see where doing that with chocolate would not make that much sense and would not be honoring myself, body or what I really like such as apples, fruit, vegetables, etc. I could sure relate to choking down those rice cakes. Although I liked them sometimes, with butter and jelly of course(ha,ha). That really seems so absurd now. Sandy

If I ate three apples a day, I would be bored and I would rebel by eating a lot of something else I really like. Probably chocolate.But beyond that...you don't like apples "that much." That's what you said. Why choke down 21 apples a week if you don't really like apples? That doesn't make sense. It's not honoring yourself, your body, or what you like. Choking down food you don't like is pure diet mentality. "Well, I hate these dry rice cakes, but they should help me lose weight..."

Speaking of which, now that you mention it, I know I would get full from 3 apples a day, and I don't like apples that much. I think that's what bothers me about that. Maybe I can work that into 1 apple, 1 pear (which I like), and 1 other fresh fruit. ??? don't know yet. Tai

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Well, I like oranges. Not so much apples. Maybe I'll try eating 3 oranges a day. :-) haha only kidding but maybe not. Someone told me today she's starting Nutrisystem. she asked me if I thought she'd lose weight on it. Yes, I replied and inwardly sighed because I did it and it worked, and I wished I could try it again, but I know it won't really work with me because I've been there, done that and would not want to keep it up with Nutrisystem. I know I'd lose weight if I stuck to it, but at a certain point, I'd go back to where I came from.

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 7:21 AMSubject: Re: Re: hello everyone

, Good points. Thanks. I wonder if I ate chocolate 3x a day that I would get bored and rebel by eating apples. I wouldn't have to choke down the chocolate though. Or maybe after a week I would. My fear is that by then I would have gained a lot of weight. That sounds like sneaky diet mentality too. I can see where doing that with chocolate would not make that much sense and would not be honoring myself, body or what I really like such as apples, fruit, vegetables, etc. I could sure relate to choking down those rice cakes. Although I liked them sometimes, with butter and jelly of course(ha,ha). That really seems so absurd now. Sandy

If I ate three apples a day, I would be bored and I would rebel by eating a lot of something else I really like. Probably chocolate.But beyond that...you don't like apples "that much." That's what you said. Why choke down 21 apples a week if you don't really like apples? That doesn't make sense. It's not honoring yourself, your body, or what you like. Choking down food you don't like is pure diet mentality. "Well, I hate these dry rice cakes, but they should help me lose weight..."

Speaking of which, now that you mention it, I know I would get full from 3 apples a day, and I don't like apples that much. I think that's what bothers me about that. Maybe I can work that into 1 apple, 1 pear (which I like), and 1 other fresh fruit. ??? don't know yet. Tai

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Tai, Glad you reminded me about the rebound effect from diets.  And I had often wondered about Nutrisystem.  Thanks. Sandy

 

Well, I like oranges. Not so much apples. Maybe I'll try eating 3 oranges a day. :-) haha only kidding but maybe not. Someone told me today she's starting Nutrisystem. she asked me if I thought she'd lose weight on it. Yes, I replied and inwardly sighed because I did it and it worked, and I wished I could try it again, but I know it won't really work with me because I've been there, done that and would not want to keep it up with Nutrisystem. I know I'd lose weight if I stuck to it, but at a certain point, I'd go back to where I came from.

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, Good points. Thanks. I wonder if I ate chocolate 3x a day that I would get bored and rebel by eating apples.  I wouldn't have to choke down the chocolate though.  Or maybe after a week I would.  My fear is that by then I would have gained a lot of weight.  That sounds like sneaky diet mentality too. I can see where doing that with chocolate would not make that much sense and would not be honoring myself, body or what I really like such as apples, fruit, vegetables, etc.  I could sure relate to choking down those rice cakes.  Although I liked them sometimes, with butter and jelly of course(ha,ha).  That really seems so absurd now. Sandy

 

If I ate three apples a day, I would be bored and I would rebel by eating a lot of something else I really like.  Probably chocolate.But beyond that...you don't like apples " that much. "   That's what you said.  Why choke down 21 apples a week if you don't really like apples?  That doesn't make sense.  It's not honoring yourself, your body, or what you like. 

Choking down food you don't like is pure diet mentality.  " Well, I hate these dry rice cakes, but they should help me lose weight... "

 

Speaking of which, now that you mention it, I know I would get full from 3 apples a day, and I don't like apples that much. I think that's what bothers me about that. Maybe I can work that into 1 apple, 1 pear (which I like), and 1 other fresh fruit. ??? don't know yet. Tai

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  • 5 months later...

Welcome Sharon. Yep, those are pretty much the same conclusions I made a while

back - dieting is so 'anti-life' for me too, and trust is the key to change.

Starting with just ONE thing has worked well for most of us. I looked at all the

IE suggestions (aka principles) and envisioned IE as a huge feast where I

selected the most appealing item and 'ate' it first. Then another etc. Some were

so GOOD and others not what I imagined them to be like at all. The best part was

that there were always options to choose from.

Next week I'm planning on beginning a weekly principle review so maybe that will

help you find your starting point.

BEST to you, Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> Hello All. I'm Sharon. I've been subscribed for a few weeks, but haven't

posted as yet.

>

> I've dieted since I was 18 or so and am over 50 now. I've had 3 successes but

always the weight went back on. With each diet it gets harder to go back to that

" hell " way of trying to lose weight.

>

> It's like being in prison. And yet the funny thing is: I hold the key to

unlock where I'm at and be free. But why don't I don that? One of the reasons is

that I'm afraid. I'm afraid that if I trust myself, I'll never be free of the

fat. Never drop any pounds. That's so silly, because the diet thinking makes me

overeat because I tell myself, that from tomorrow (oh there are so many

tomorrows in a week) I'm going to start being " good " . But it doesn't happen does

it?

>

> I don't know what normal eating is anymore. It's some faraway land that others

have found, but I will search for it and never find it. I feel guilty if I eat

when I'm not hungry. I feel guilty if I eat " goodies " . I don't know when to

start, when to stop, and the whole who, what, when, where of food. I don't seem

to hear myself telling me to steady on, slow down, enjoy your food, it's ok, you

can eat that, it's alright.

>

> Where does one start?

>

> Sharon

>

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