Re: Satisfaction - at last

[Guest guest]

Katcha,

I would LOVE to have your new recipe, if you don't mind sharing it! Bread is my

main struggle with gluten-free eating, too.

Don't know if this is true for anyone but me, but timimg of eating gluten has as

much effect as how much gluten I eat. I can eat a little gluten in the morning,

maybe even at lunch (say an ounce of a full-grain bread -- I really enjoy the

" artisan " breads -- with each of those meals) and I don't have the awful muscle

aches that disturb my sleep when I eat gluten at dinner.

I am diabetic, and so cannot be a " true " IE eater, but have found much that is

helpful on this list.

Thanks,

Donna

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> ...After baking several GF recipes which produced bread look-alikes, I ended

up tossing most after a bite or two... So I 'winged it' using what I thought

would make a taste that would appeal to me. Hooray! I made a dark brown bread

that reminds me of the hearty breads of Germany...

[Guest guest]

Katcha,

I would LOVE to have your new recipe, if you don't mind sharing it! Bread is my

main struggle with gluten-free eating, too.

Don't know if this is true for anyone but me, but timimg of eating gluten has as

much effect as how much gluten I eat. I can eat a little gluten in the morning,

maybe even at lunch (say an ounce of a full-grain bread -- I really enjoy the

" artisan " breads -- with each of those meals) and I don't have the awful muscle

aches that disturb my sleep when I eat gluten at dinner.

I am diabetic, and so cannot be a " true " IE eater, but have found much that is

helpful on this list.

Thanks,

Donna

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> ...After baking several GF recipes which produced bread look-alikes, I ended

up tossing most after a bite or two... So I 'winged it' using what I thought

would make a taste that would appeal to me. Hooray! I made a dark brown bread

that reminds me of the hearty breads of Germany...

[Guest guest]

Donna, what do you mean by "muscle aches" ? Like sudden muscle cramps at night?

From: Donna in OhioSent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 7:03 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: Satisfaction - at last

Katcha,I would LOVE to have your new recipe, if you don't mind sharing it! Bread is my main struggle with gluten-free eating, too.Don't know if this is true for anyone but me, but timimg of eating gluten has as much effect as how much gluten I eat. I can eat a little gluten in the morning, maybe even at lunch (say an ounce of a full-grain bread -- I really enjoy the "artisan" breads -- with each of those meals) and I don't have the awful muscle aches that disturb my sleep when I eat gluten at dinner.I am diabetic, and so cannot be a "true" IE eater, but have found much that is helpful on this list.Thanks,Donna>> ...After baking several GF recipes which produced bread look-alikes, I ended up tossing most after a bite or two... So I 'winged it' using what I thought would make a taste that would appeal to me. Hooray! I made a dark brown bread that reminds me of the hearty breads of Germany...

[Guest guest]

Donna, what do you mean by "muscle aches" ? Like sudden muscle cramps at night?

From: Donna in OhioSent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 7:03 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: Satisfaction - at last

Katcha,I would LOVE to have your new recipe, if you don't mind sharing it! Bread is my main struggle with gluten-free eating, too.Don't know if this is true for anyone but me, but timimg of eating gluten has as much effect as how much gluten I eat. I can eat a little gluten in the morning, maybe even at lunch (say an ounce of a full-grain bread -- I really enjoy the "artisan" breads -- with each of those meals) and I don't have the awful muscle aches that disturb my sleep when I eat gluten at dinner.I am diabetic, and so cannot be a "true" IE eater, but have found much that is helpful on this list.Thanks,Donna>> ...After baking several GF recipes which produced bread look-alikes, I ended up tossing most after a bite or two... So I 'winged it' using what I thought would make a taste that would appeal to me. Hooray! I made a dark brown bread that reminds me of the hearty breads of Germany...

[Guest guest]

Donna, I'm emailing you the recipe. Hope it works for you. It does contain

molasses which I hope your diabetes can handle too.

Diabetes and IE are not 'at odds' with each other, at least not from what I've

come across here on this list. There was one member who reduced a LOT of her

blood sugar by eating a suggested way. And she was able to follow that suggested

way because she had gotten enough IE working for her to not automatically rebel.

'True IE' come from being true to yourself (and body)! If your body doesn't work

well with sugars, its very IE for you not eat those.

I'm really just in the discovery phase of whether I do better eating more gluten

free or if my body doesn't care one way or the other. I will say that I have

noticed a couple of pluses when I do not eat gluten containing foods. 1) My

sinuses are clearer and 2) my digestion is more 'complete'. I'm also thinking

that some of the other things I've been noticing could possibly be like allergic

reactions but since they are internal, the sensations only can be externalized

and easily mistaken for other malaise. Its a process for sure and I'm so glad I

have IE to help me with it.

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

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> > ...After baking several GF recipes which produced bread look-alikes, I ended

up tossing most after a bite or two... So I 'winged it' using what I thought

would make a taste that would appeal to me. Hooray! I made a dark brown bread

that reminds me of the hearty breads of Germany...

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[Guest guest]

Donna, I'm emailing you the recipe. Hope it works for you. It does contain

molasses which I hope your diabetes can handle too.

Diabetes and IE are not 'at odds' with each other, at least not from what I've

come across here on this list. There was one member who reduced a LOT of her

blood sugar by eating a suggested way. And she was able to follow that suggested

way because she had gotten enough IE working for her to not automatically rebel.

'True IE' come from being true to yourself (and body)! If your body doesn't work

well with sugars, its very IE for you not eat those.

I'm really just in the discovery phase of whether I do better eating more gluten

free or if my body doesn't care one way or the other. I will say that I have

noticed a couple of pluses when I do not eat gluten containing foods. 1) My

sinuses are clearer and 2) my digestion is more 'complete'. I'm also thinking

that some of the other things I've been noticing could possibly be like allergic

reactions but since they are internal, the sensations only can be externalized

and easily mistaken for other malaise. Its a process for sure and I'm so glad I

have IE to help me with it.

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

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> > ...After baking several GF recipes which produced bread look-alikes, I ended

up tossing most after a bite or two... So I 'winged it' using what I thought

would make a taste that would appeal to me. Hooray! I made a dark brown bread

that reminds me of the hearty breads of Germany...

>

[Guest guest]

Rain,

Not cramps, but a deep ache (in my thighs particularly but also general) that

wakes me up every hour or two all night. I have proven to myself over and over

again that if I have gluten at dinner I ache, and when I don't eat it I don't

ache.

I read on a diabetes board elsewhere that not a few diabetics discover they have

gluten sensitivities when, shortly after diagnosis, they go practically cold

turkey on carbs and within a week lose the aches they thought were arthritis. I

had that experience, then started adding various carbs back in as I learned how

my body reacted to different foods. Rice and potatoes, I only have to think

about grams of carb; pasta, couscous, bread, I also have to think about time of

day and whether the food is worth a bad night's sleep to me.

Cheers,

Donna

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> Donna, what do you mean by " muscle aches " ? Like sudden muscle cramps at

night?

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> Re: Satisfaction - at last

....Don't know if this is true for anyone but me, but timimg of eating gluten has

as much effect as how much gluten I eat. I can eat a little gluten in the

morning, maybe even at lunch (say an ounce of a full-grain bread -- I really

enjoy the " artisan " breads -- with each of those meals) and I don't have the

awful muscle aches that disturb my sleep when I eat gluten at dinner.

>

> I am diabetic, and so cannot be a " true " IE eater, but have found much that is

helpful on this list.

[Guest guest]

Katcha,

Glad you found what you were looking for! How wonderful to be able to hold out for what you REALLY want, rather than accept an inferior substitute. I, too, am trying to go gluten-free for a bit. I am also cutting out dairy and sugar. But, unlike past attempts to control what I eat, I am trying it the IE way instead. For me, this means no punitive measures and strict restrictions. I am doing this to see if I feel better and more energetic and if a few inflammatory conditions I have will clear up. In other words, I want to see if this way of eating can be natural for me without having to police every bite I eat and feel bad about "cheating." So much easier and kinder than "shoulds" and "goods" and "bads."

Mimi

Subject: Satisfaction - at lastTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Saturday, July 9, 2011, 12:02 PM

I have been struggling with trying to eat gluten free so that I can see if I am gluten sensitive. One of the biggest hangups for me has been to find a 'bread' that I enjoy. I looked at the GF breads in the markets and besides being turned off at the prices ($5 and up!), the list of ingredients were off putting too. After baking several GF recipes which produced bread look-alikes, I ended up tossing most after a bite or two. I searched thru several GF web sites and GF cookbooks but only found more of the same type of recipes that I hadn't liked. So I 'winged it' using what I thought would make a taste that would appeal to me. Hooray! I made a dark brown bread that reminds me of the hearty breads of Germany. I enjoyed it toasted, spread with cream cheese and happily sighed relief that I would no longer feel unsatisfied with horrible substitutes. Plus I can now give GF eating a much better 'test' for myself.If I hadn't learned from IE

about frustration driven 'hunger', I might have never been able to hang in until I found what I truly wanted. And I also might have FOUGHT with having to eat GF too.KatchaIEing since March 2007

[Guest guest]

Mimi, it seems to me that using IE is probably the only sane and practical

(albeit slow and cumbersome at times) solution to eating challenges for our

bodies. My distrust level for most of the medical 'profession' gets kicked into

hyperdrive when it comes to food issues. There is just too much authority placed

in tests ( & more tests) and such blanket labels as IBS (irritable bowel

syndrome) which could be anything from food allergies to parasites to physical

problems like cancer, appendix and intestinal injuries etc. etc. With so many

foods available to us, choosing to not eat a certain 'one' really can't be too

restrictive really.

Best wishes as you tackle and trace down what your body prefers to not have in

it.

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

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> I have been struggling with trying to eat gluten free so that I can see if I

am gluten sensitive. One of the biggest hangups for me has been to find a

'bread' that I enjoy. I looked at the GF breads in the markets and besides being

turned off at the prices ($5 and up!), the list of ingredients were off putting

too. After baking several GF recipes which produced bread look-alikes, I ended

up tossing most after a bite or two. I searched thru several GF web sites and GF

cookbooks but only found more of the same type of recipes that I hadn't liked.

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> So I 'winged it' using what I thought would make a taste that would appeal to

me. Hooray! I made a dark brown bread that reminds me of the hearty breads of

Germany. I enjoyed it toasted, spread with cream cheese and happily sighed

relief that I would no longer feel unsatisfied with horrible substitutes. Plus I

can now give GF eating a much better 'test' for myself.

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> If I hadn't learned from IE about frustration driven 'hunger', I might have

never been able to hang in until I found what I truly wanted. And I also might

have FOUGHT with having to eat GF too.

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> Katcha

> IEing since March 2007

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