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A normal, healthy male, of any age, will NOT abuse children. If they are doing

that I think they have some issues of their own, like they were abused

themselves. A girl won't necessarily be any better, if they were abused they

could become abusers too. My boyfriend was molested by his older female cousin

when he was a kid, who he suspected had been molested/raped by her stepfather.

The answer is not to distrust all teenage boys, to think it's " pouring gasoline

on a fire " or that they " sexualize everything " because that is just not true.

Instead just install (cheap nowadays) cameras and tell your babysitters you have

nanny cams and they'll behave.

I have a friend who was raped as a 5 yo on by her father, but I don't assume all

fathers are bad to have around daughters.

Casey

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> > > > I havent' been posting in a while because I feel like what I am dealing

with specifically isn't really a good fit for this board right now. But I wanted

to throw this out, just to see if it is anyone else's experience here and how

people think it fits in with BPD. I have been reliving my childhood watching my

mother (not) deal with the borderline (my sister in law) that is living in her

house. I have seen her go more and more into denial, placate the bpd more and

more, refuse to confront her on the cleaning issues, the neglect issues with the

children, etc. She rationalizes, she makes excuses and more and more she

disengages and flat out denies. She is the adult child of a compulsive

gambler/alcoholic/pedophile, her mother died when she was ten.

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> > > > My mother has a job and is well-liked. She functions in society and no

one would ever call her 'crazy'. She is in no way histrionic, EVER. She is

rarely emotionally demonstrative in a negative way. But she did not protect me

from her father, in fact she packed up both my sister and I and sent us to stay

with him for a week, knowing he would be drunk the whole time and knowing we

would be sleeping in his bed with him (I went one summer and sister went the

next, he lived with his own sister). His sister was aware of the abuse and did

not intervene.

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> > > > My father was abusive of me also and my mother did not intervene, except

when he physically attacked me, she would get between us. Watching her not

protect these kids (or intervene on their behalf to the mom about cleaning and

supervision, they aren't being beaten or anything) has really put me back in

childhood in an almost paralyzing way. I feel like I am in an abyss, and being

crushed, watching her concede territory daily to this BPD in the household and

actually prop her up. It is like a nightmare because it is living a current

nightmare and going through memories of the past one at the same time. She had

no empathy and would not validate any abuse of me that occurred. If I told her,

like I did after I had my first gynecological appointment, that it was apparent

to the obgyn that I had serious internal scarring, she literally looked down and

did not acknowledge it. She had zero curiosity about what might have happened to

me and when. WHAT KIND OF MOTHER DOES THIS? When my sister and I compared notes

and told her we'd been abused by her father, she dismissed it, continued to

allow him to babysit and visit all the time, and even sent my brother to stay

with him for a week the following summer. She still has his photos up everywhere

and talks about him fondly.

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> > > > Can anyone relate to this very specific behavior of refusing to protect

children from predators, refusing to validate or acknowledge abuse that has

occurred, refusing to ever give credence to anything an insane person is doing

that points to mental instability? I swear to god, she just 'goes away'. It's

literally like she is no longer in her body. I don't know what to call it other

than a dissociative disorder, denial is not nearly strong enough a word for what

this is. it made me crazy growing up. So many times she 'checked out' when I

needed her in one way or another. She is like a robot going through the motions.

But don't expect her to ever acknowledge ANY abuse that happened or is happening

to you.

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> > > > Another story from my childhood, actually I was in my teens and visiting

my grandmother (on the other side of the family). My uncle came home with a two

year old girl whose mother he had met on the bus to somewhere, rumors later on

were that a 'trade' had taken place for drugs, I don't know why he had her but

apparently he had a history with the mother. At some point during the visit, she

went up to my grandmother and and said " when X (my uncle) sleeps with me, he

plays with my behind " . NO ONE stepped in to help this child. I don't even

remember when the mother showed up to get her...I remember asking my grandmother

about it, and she got the meanest look on her face when I repeated what the

little girl said, and she said, in a very severe and hateful tone, " Children

LIE. " This is the story of my family. Over and over again it is one story after

another just like this. Stepford mothers who walk around like zombies protecting

themselves from seeing the children in their midst being mistreated. Actually

<<that sentence sums up this whole post. The stepford behavior is literally

making me sick to my stomach lately. What causes this robotic denial? I mean, I

know it is abuse, but if the person is not a histrionic witch or queen, they can

literally go through life with everyone loving them, eating them up, calling

them things like 'sweet and kind' meanwhile they are committing the most hideous

dereliction of duty as a parent, or as a human, the refusal to see abuse right

in front of them, or act in any way to stop it. It's NOT THAT HARD. All my

mother would have had to do was not send us to the grandfather, not allow him to

babysit. But she didn't. And even today, with all that has been said and thrown

into the light of day by me about his abuse, she still talks of him fondly.

Maybe I am the one that is crazy.

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> > > > Sorry to once again run on so long, I have been feeling extremely nuts

lately. I need therapy and can't afford it I guess. Any light anyone might be

able to shed on this would be very much appreciated.

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A normal, healthy male, of any age, will NOT abuse children. If they are doing

that I think they have some issues of their own, like they were abused

themselves. A girl won't necessarily be any better, if they were abused they

could become abusers too. My boyfriend was molested by his older female cousin

when he was a kid, who he suspected had been molested/raped by her stepfather.

The answer is not to distrust all teenage boys, to think it's " pouring gasoline

on a fire " or that they " sexualize everything " because that is just not true.

Instead just install (cheap nowadays) cameras and tell your babysitters you have

nanny cams and they'll behave.

I have a friend who was raped as a 5 yo on by her father, but I don't assume all

fathers are bad to have around daughters.

Casey

> > > >

> > > > I havent' been posting in a while because I feel like what I am dealing

with specifically isn't really a good fit for this board right now. But I wanted

to throw this out, just to see if it is anyone else's experience here and how

people think it fits in with BPD. I have been reliving my childhood watching my

mother (not) deal with the borderline (my sister in law) that is living in her

house. I have seen her go more and more into denial, placate the bpd more and

more, refuse to confront her on the cleaning issues, the neglect issues with the

children, etc. She rationalizes, she makes excuses and more and more she

disengages and flat out denies. She is the adult child of a compulsive

gambler/alcoholic/pedophile, her mother died when she was ten.

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> > > > My mother has a job and is well-liked. She functions in society and no

one would ever call her 'crazy'. She is in no way histrionic, EVER. She is

rarely emotionally demonstrative in a negative way. But she did not protect me

from her father, in fact she packed up both my sister and I and sent us to stay

with him for a week, knowing he would be drunk the whole time and knowing we

would be sleeping in his bed with him (I went one summer and sister went the

next, he lived with his own sister). His sister was aware of the abuse and did

not intervene.

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> > > > My father was abusive of me also and my mother did not intervene, except

when he physically attacked me, she would get between us. Watching her not

protect these kids (or intervene on their behalf to the mom about cleaning and

supervision, they aren't being beaten or anything) has really put me back in

childhood in an almost paralyzing way. I feel like I am in an abyss, and being

crushed, watching her concede territory daily to this BPD in the household and

actually prop her up. It is like a nightmare because it is living a current

nightmare and going through memories of the past one at the same time. She had

no empathy and would not validate any abuse of me that occurred. If I told her,

like I did after I had my first gynecological appointment, that it was apparent

to the obgyn that I had serious internal scarring, she literally looked down and

did not acknowledge it. She had zero curiosity about what might have happened to

me and when. WHAT KIND OF MOTHER DOES THIS? When my sister and I compared notes

and told her we'd been abused by her father, she dismissed it, continued to

allow him to babysit and visit all the time, and even sent my brother to stay

with him for a week the following summer. She still has his photos up everywhere

and talks about him fondly.

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> > > > Can anyone relate to this very specific behavior of refusing to protect

children from predators, refusing to validate or acknowledge abuse that has

occurred, refusing to ever give credence to anything an insane person is doing

that points to mental instability? I swear to god, she just 'goes away'. It's

literally like she is no longer in her body. I don't know what to call it other

than a dissociative disorder, denial is not nearly strong enough a word for what

this is. it made me crazy growing up. So many times she 'checked out' when I

needed her in one way or another. She is like a robot going through the motions.

But don't expect her to ever acknowledge ANY abuse that happened or is happening

to you.

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> > > > Another story from my childhood, actually I was in my teens and visiting

my grandmother (on the other side of the family). My uncle came home with a two

year old girl whose mother he had met on the bus to somewhere, rumors later on

were that a 'trade' had taken place for drugs, I don't know why he had her but

apparently he had a history with the mother. At some point during the visit, she

went up to my grandmother and and said " when X (my uncle) sleeps with me, he

plays with my behind " . NO ONE stepped in to help this child. I don't even

remember when the mother showed up to get her...I remember asking my grandmother

about it, and she got the meanest look on her face when I repeated what the

little girl said, and she said, in a very severe and hateful tone, " Children

LIE. " This is the story of my family. Over and over again it is one story after

another just like this. Stepford mothers who walk around like zombies protecting

themselves from seeing the children in their midst being mistreated. Actually

<<that sentence sums up this whole post. The stepford behavior is literally

making me sick to my stomach lately. What causes this robotic denial? I mean, I

know it is abuse, but if the person is not a histrionic witch or queen, they can

literally go through life with everyone loving them, eating them up, calling

them things like 'sweet and kind' meanwhile they are committing the most hideous

dereliction of duty as a parent, or as a human, the refusal to see abuse right

in front of them, or act in any way to stop it. It's NOT THAT HARD. All my

mother would have had to do was not send us to the grandfather, not allow him to

babysit. But she didn't. And even today, with all that has been said and thrown

into the light of day by me about his abuse, she still talks of him fondly.

Maybe I am the one that is crazy.

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> > > > Sorry to once again run on so long, I have been feeling extremely nuts

lately. I need therapy and can't afford it I guess. Any light anyone might be

able to shed on this would be very much appreciated.

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I am going to respond in a gut level honest and politically incorrect fashion.

There is no metal detector or xray scanner for 'normal, healthy'. There are

levels of distrust. Installing video is a good idea, but some teenagers are very

astute with cameras and that is taking a risk. I stand by my original point...I

have no children of either sex, but I would not leave my young daughters alone

with teenage males in the throes of burgeoning hormonal imperatives. I'm really

surprised and suspicious this woman sought out males to babysit her daughters. I

had, as a young girl, more than my share of experiences of being groped by older

boys I was unfortunate enough to get caught alone with, aside from my experience

with seasoned adult predators, so I don't know if that is why I might be jaded.

That being said, I still wouldn't do it, and people can call me wrong and sexist

til the cows come home. I will never forget the shame that shot through me each

time I had the experience of being groped or laid on top of or whatever,

psychological damage is too high a price to pay for the risk of 'misbehavior'

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wow, that is an excellent point. It is so true that there is nothing nice or

normal about looking the other way when children are being hurt. Thanks for

underscoring that.

> > > >> All this and other things she did become kind of " normal " to me -

that is her, that is how she behave - and you help me a lot to find out ( again)

how veird is that. Even when I told somebody what was happening I had a feeling

that they thought that I may over exaggerate or they didn't really understand

what I'm telling them.

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What if you had boys? And would you leave your daughter alone with her father?

Leaving kids with anyone is taking a risk. I was at most risk with my own

mother! I don't think there is any perfect solution.

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What if you had boys? And would you leave your daughter alone with her father?

Leaving kids with anyone is taking a risk. I was at most risk with my own

mother! I don't think there is any perfect solution.

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What if you had boys? And would you leave your daughter alone with her father?

Leaving kids with anyone is taking a risk. I was at most risk with my own

mother! I don't think there is any perfect solution.

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I agree, there is no perfect solution. Leaving your small child with any other

person always includes some risk. (I used to get anxious when I had to travel

for business and had to ask a friend to take care of my cats when I was away,

even. I kept worrying that they'd get out, or get sick, or hide and not eat the

whole time I was away.) It really does take a lot of considered thought and

care to choose an individual who is the least likely to neglect or harm or

exploit your vulnerable, helpless, innocent child when you're not there.

My own personal experience is that the teenage boys I've known and come across

(my relatives, neighbors, the children of friends, boy friends of mine when I

was a teen) have/had *zero* interest in babysitting. Having to care for younger

siblings or being told to babysit for friends of the parents is like punishment;

even humiliating to their burgeoning sense of adult manliness (changing toddler

diapers, wiping bottoms, giving baths, etc. is still viewed as something women

do.) So I personally would be suspicious of a teenage boy who actually *wants*

to babysit young children of either sex. And yes, I suppose that is a terribly

politically incorrect stance, but I can't help the way I feel; I'm just going

from my own background and experiences.

Nanny cams all over the house sound like a great idea to me, whoever the sitter

is. That would be a very anxiety-relieving tool for me if I had little ones.

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I agree, there is no perfect solution. Leaving your small child with any other

person always includes some risk. (I used to get anxious when I had to travel

for business and had to ask a friend to take care of my cats when I was away,

even. I kept worrying that they'd get out, or get sick, or hide and not eat the

whole time I was away.) It really does take a lot of considered thought and

care to choose an individual who is the least likely to neglect or harm or

exploit your vulnerable, helpless, innocent child when you're not there.

My own personal experience is that the teenage boys I've known and come across

(my relatives, neighbors, the children of friends, boy friends of mine when I

was a teen) have/had *zero* interest in babysitting. Having to care for younger

siblings or being told to babysit for friends of the parents is like punishment;

even humiliating to their burgeoning sense of adult manliness (changing toddler

diapers, wiping bottoms, giving baths, etc. is still viewed as something women

do.) So I personally would be suspicious of a teenage boy who actually *wants*

to babysit young children of either sex. And yes, I suppose that is a terribly

politically incorrect stance, but I can't help the way I feel; I'm just going

from my own background and experiences.

Nanny cams all over the house sound like a great idea to me, whoever the sitter

is. That would be a very anxiety-relieving tool for me if I had little ones.

-Annie

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I agree, there is no perfect solution. Leaving your small child with any other

person always includes some risk. (I used to get anxious when I had to travel

for business and had to ask a friend to take care of my cats when I was away,

even. I kept worrying that they'd get out, or get sick, or hide and not eat the

whole time I was away.) It really does take a lot of considered thought and

care to choose an individual who is the least likely to neglect or harm or

exploit your vulnerable, helpless, innocent child when you're not there.

My own personal experience is that the teenage boys I've known and come across

(my relatives, neighbors, the children of friends, boy friends of mine when I

was a teen) have/had *zero* interest in babysitting. Having to care for younger

siblings or being told to babysit for friends of the parents is like punishment;

even humiliating to their burgeoning sense of adult manliness (changing toddler

diapers, wiping bottoms, giving baths, etc. is still viewed as something women

do.) So I personally would be suspicious of a teenage boy who actually *wants*

to babysit young children of either sex. And yes, I suppose that is a terribly

politically incorrect stance, but I can't help the way I feel; I'm just going

from my own background and experiences.

Nanny cams all over the house sound like a great idea to me, whoever the sitter

is. That would be a very anxiety-relieving tool for me if I had little ones.

-Annie

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Of course not *all* teenaged boys are foaming at the mouth potential child

rapists.That is a logical and statistical improbability.

My best (male) friend in high school had been sexually assaulted by a man in

his neighborhood when he was seven and was the kind of sensitive,caring teenaged

boy who really liked little kids and would have been perfectly safe babysitting

them,much like the first male babysitter Fireflies had who she said was alot of

fun and looked forward to having babysit her.I suspect my friend was exploited

by the neighborhood pedo precisely *because* he was such a gentle,sensitive

soul.Having been sexually abused and/or simply being a teenaged male doesn't

necessarily add up to being a sex abuse threat to little children,that is true.

What was disturbing to me about Fireflies' story is that her nada " fired "

the nice kid and hired another teenaged boy who did end up sexually exploiting

her.It's very odd that her nada chose teenaged boys to babysit her little

girls--that is very odd because really as Annie said,most teenaged boys just are

not into babysitting kids.It seems to me that either such a boy would be like my

aforementioned high school friend (and like the first,decent teenaged male

babysitter Fireflies had) or they'd be the type who would have to be sort of

press ganged into lowering themselves into babysitting some little kid...and in

the latter case I would also be wary--not because it is inevitable that a

teenaged boy who has no interest in " babysitting " little kids would sexually

harm them but simply because I wouldn't personally leave a child in the care of

anyone who just isn't into nurturing little kids.

I was sexually abused by teenaged boys ( " friends " of my female babysitter)

and for many years I thought my experience was really weird and abnormal,like

such a thing must have only happened to me.Then I learned that,statistically

speaking,the most common form of sexual abuse is actually teenaged boys

assaulting younger children.And the most common age,statistically speaking,for

the onset of sexual abuse from any kind of perp,is age five.Here I was thinking

I was some kind of freak when actually my experience--being sexually abused

starting at age five by teenaged boys--is the most common abuse of all.

Does that mean I automatically believe that *all* teenaged boys are raving

sexual predators? No.

If you have kids,the person you hire to care for them in your absence is

such a serious and personal decision--it's subjective based on what you know

best and what you believe is in the best interests of your child/ren (not

talking about nadas here).Would I hire a teenaged boy to babysit my kids? No.I

just wouldn't.I would just rather not even go there,because of my own

experience.But that doesn't mean that I have damned all teenaged boys as child

rapists.And I don't think that's what Joe was doing,either.When you are a

survivor of sexual assault you are more keyed in to the potential of certain

people to be perps,that's all.

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> I agree, there is no perfect solution. Leaving your small child with any other

person always includes some risk. (I used to get anxious when I had to travel

for business and had to ask a friend to take care of my cats when I was away,

even. I kept worrying that they'd get out, or get sick, or hide and not eat the

whole time I was away.) It really does take a lot of considered thought and

care to choose an individual who is the least likely to neglect or harm or

exploit your vulnerable, helpless, innocent child when you're not there.

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> My own personal experience is that the teenage boys I've known and come across

(my relatives, neighbors, the children of friends, boy friends of mine when I

was a teen) have/had *zero* interest in babysitting. Having to care for younger

siblings or being told to babysit for friends of the parents is like punishment;

even humiliating to their burgeoning sense of adult manliness (changing toddler

diapers, wiping bottoms, giving baths, etc. is still viewed as something women

do.) So I personally would be suspicious of a teenage boy who actually *wants*

to babysit young children of either sex. And yes, I suppose that is a terribly

politically incorrect stance, but I can't help the way I feel; I'm just going

from my own background and experiences.

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> Nanny cams all over the house sound like a great idea to me, whoever the

sitter is. That would be a very anxiety-relieving tool for me if I had little

ones.

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> -Annie

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Of course not *all* teenaged boys are foaming at the mouth potential child

rapists.That is a logical and statistical improbability.

My best (male) friend in high school had been sexually assaulted by a man in

his neighborhood when he was seven and was the kind of sensitive,caring teenaged

boy who really liked little kids and would have been perfectly safe babysitting

them,much like the first male babysitter Fireflies had who she said was alot of

fun and looked forward to having babysit her.I suspect my friend was exploited

by the neighborhood pedo precisely *because* he was such a gentle,sensitive

soul.Having been sexually abused and/or simply being a teenaged male doesn't

necessarily add up to being a sex abuse threat to little children,that is true.

What was disturbing to me about Fireflies' story is that her nada " fired "

the nice kid and hired another teenaged boy who did end up sexually exploiting

her.It's very odd that her nada chose teenaged boys to babysit her little

girls--that is very odd because really as Annie said,most teenaged boys just are

not into babysitting kids.It seems to me that either such a boy would be like my

aforementioned high school friend (and like the first,decent teenaged male

babysitter Fireflies had) or they'd be the type who would have to be sort of

press ganged into lowering themselves into babysitting some little kid...and in

the latter case I would also be wary--not because it is inevitable that a

teenaged boy who has no interest in " babysitting " little kids would sexually

harm them but simply because I wouldn't personally leave a child in the care of

anyone who just isn't into nurturing little kids.

I was sexually abused by teenaged boys ( " friends " of my female babysitter)

and for many years I thought my experience was really weird and abnormal,like

such a thing must have only happened to me.Then I learned that,statistically

speaking,the most common form of sexual abuse is actually teenaged boys

assaulting younger children.And the most common age,statistically speaking,for

the onset of sexual abuse from any kind of perp,is age five.Here I was thinking

I was some kind of freak when actually my experience--being sexually abused

starting at age five by teenaged boys--is the most common abuse of all.

Does that mean I automatically believe that *all* teenaged boys are raving

sexual predators? No.

If you have kids,the person you hire to care for them in your absence is

such a serious and personal decision--it's subjective based on what you know

best and what you believe is in the best interests of your child/ren (not

talking about nadas here).Would I hire a teenaged boy to babysit my kids? No.I

just wouldn't.I would just rather not even go there,because of my own

experience.But that doesn't mean that I have damned all teenaged boys as child

rapists.And I don't think that's what Joe was doing,either.When you are a

survivor of sexual assault you are more keyed in to the potential of certain

people to be perps,that's all.

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> I agree, there is no perfect solution. Leaving your small child with any other

person always includes some risk. (I used to get anxious when I had to travel

for business and had to ask a friend to take care of my cats when I was away,

even. I kept worrying that they'd get out, or get sick, or hide and not eat the

whole time I was away.) It really does take a lot of considered thought and

care to choose an individual who is the least likely to neglect or harm or

exploit your vulnerable, helpless, innocent child when you're not there.

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> My own personal experience is that the teenage boys I've known and come across

(my relatives, neighbors, the children of friends, boy friends of mine when I

was a teen) have/had *zero* interest in babysitting. Having to care for younger

siblings or being told to babysit for friends of the parents is like punishment;

even humiliating to their burgeoning sense of adult manliness (changing toddler

diapers, wiping bottoms, giving baths, etc. is still viewed as something women

do.) So I personally would be suspicious of a teenage boy who actually *wants*

to babysit young children of either sex. And yes, I suppose that is a terribly

politically incorrect stance, but I can't help the way I feel; I'm just going

from my own background and experiences.

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> Nanny cams all over the house sound like a great idea to me, whoever the

sitter is. That would be a very anxiety-relieving tool for me if I had little

ones.

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> -Annie

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Of course not *all* teenaged boys are foaming at the mouth potential child

rapists.That is a logical and statistical improbability.

My best (male) friend in high school had been sexually assaulted by a man in

his neighborhood when he was seven and was the kind of sensitive,caring teenaged

boy who really liked little kids and would have been perfectly safe babysitting

them,much like the first male babysitter Fireflies had who she said was alot of

fun and looked forward to having babysit her.I suspect my friend was exploited

by the neighborhood pedo precisely *because* he was such a gentle,sensitive

soul.Having been sexually abused and/or simply being a teenaged male doesn't

necessarily add up to being a sex abuse threat to little children,that is true.

What was disturbing to me about Fireflies' story is that her nada " fired "

the nice kid and hired another teenaged boy who did end up sexually exploiting

her.It's very odd that her nada chose teenaged boys to babysit her little

girls--that is very odd because really as Annie said,most teenaged boys just are

not into babysitting kids.It seems to me that either such a boy would be like my

aforementioned high school friend (and like the first,decent teenaged male

babysitter Fireflies had) or they'd be the type who would have to be sort of

press ganged into lowering themselves into babysitting some little kid...and in

the latter case I would also be wary--not because it is inevitable that a

teenaged boy who has no interest in " babysitting " little kids would sexually

harm them but simply because I wouldn't personally leave a child in the care of

anyone who just isn't into nurturing little kids.

I was sexually abused by teenaged boys ( " friends " of my female babysitter)

and for many years I thought my experience was really weird and abnormal,like

such a thing must have only happened to me.Then I learned that,statistically

speaking,the most common form of sexual abuse is actually teenaged boys

assaulting younger children.And the most common age,statistically speaking,for

the onset of sexual abuse from any kind of perp,is age five.Here I was thinking

I was some kind of freak when actually my experience--being sexually abused

starting at age five by teenaged boys--is the most common abuse of all.

Does that mean I automatically believe that *all* teenaged boys are raving

sexual predators? No.

If you have kids,the person you hire to care for them in your absence is

such a serious and personal decision--it's subjective based on what you know

best and what you believe is in the best interests of your child/ren (not

talking about nadas here).Would I hire a teenaged boy to babysit my kids? No.I

just wouldn't.I would just rather not even go there,because of my own

experience.But that doesn't mean that I have damned all teenaged boys as child

rapists.And I don't think that's what Joe was doing,either.When you are a

survivor of sexual assault you are more keyed in to the potential of certain

people to be perps,that's all.

>

> I agree, there is no perfect solution. Leaving your small child with any other

person always includes some risk. (I used to get anxious when I had to travel

for business and had to ask a friend to take care of my cats when I was away,

even. I kept worrying that they'd get out, or get sick, or hide and not eat the

whole time I was away.) It really does take a lot of considered thought and

care to choose an individual who is the least likely to neglect or harm or

exploit your vulnerable, helpless, innocent child when you're not there.

>

> My own personal experience is that the teenage boys I've known and come across

(my relatives, neighbors, the children of friends, boy friends of mine when I

was a teen) have/had *zero* interest in babysitting. Having to care for younger

siblings or being told to babysit for friends of the parents is like punishment;

even humiliating to their burgeoning sense of adult manliness (changing toddler

diapers, wiping bottoms, giving baths, etc. is still viewed as something women

do.) So I personally would be suspicious of a teenage boy who actually *wants*

to babysit young children of either sex. And yes, I suppose that is a terribly

politically incorrect stance, but I can't help the way I feel; I'm just going

from my own background and experiences.

>

> Nanny cams all over the house sound like a great idea to me, whoever the

sitter is. That would be a very anxiety-relieving tool for me if I had little

ones.

>

> -Annie

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Hi Yenaine,

Thanks for validating my feelings on this. People just don't know what to say.

This is the only time someone has spoken with me about it. Even my father and

husband just stared blankly at me for the most part. I don't know what to say

about it either.

I guess different kinds of abuse are just different. I am thankful that I went

to church with my grandparents, so I had something to contrast with. I now have

a very strong faith. I like to think of it as a broken bone; doctors say it

heals back stronger than before. So I feel I am healing even stronger in the

areas I was damaged. What about you? :-)

-Coal Miner's Daughter

>

> Hi Coal miner daughter!

> From all the abuses for me the spiritual abuse is almost the worst one. At

least for me.I consider myself deeply spiritual but I'm completely allergic on

this kind of abuse. It is easier to heal body and mind than to heal your spirit.

I'm a journalist and I met some children who where similar (or even worst) used

by their parents or other adults. It was deeply touched when I see how much

problems this kids have later in their live. I made some articles about that and

I fought some battles for this kids. It always shocked me that society don't

see any real problem in that or how much they are afraid to interfere

sometimes.

>

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Hi Yenaine,

Thanks for validating my feelings on this. People just don't know what to say.

This is the only time someone has spoken with me about it. Even my father and

husband just stared blankly at me for the most part. I don't know what to say

about it either.

I guess different kinds of abuse are just different. I am thankful that I went

to church with my grandparents, so I had something to contrast with. I now have

a very strong faith. I like to think of it as a broken bone; doctors say it

heals back stronger than before. So I feel I am healing even stronger in the

areas I was damaged. What about you? :-)

-Coal Miner's Daughter

>

> Hi Coal miner daughter!

> From all the abuses for me the spiritual abuse is almost the worst one. At

least for me.I consider myself deeply spiritual but I'm completely allergic on

this kind of abuse. It is easier to heal body and mind than to heal your spirit.

I'm a journalist and I met some children who where similar (or even worst) used

by their parents or other adults. It was deeply touched when I see how much

problems this kids have later in their live. I made some articles about that and

I fought some battles for this kids. It always shocked me that society don't

see any real problem in that or how much they are afraid to interfere

sometimes.

>

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Hi Yenaine,

Thanks for validating my feelings on this. People just don't know what to say.

This is the only time someone has spoken with me about it. Even my father and

husband just stared blankly at me for the most part. I don't know what to say

about it either.

I guess different kinds of abuse are just different. I am thankful that I went

to church with my grandparents, so I had something to contrast with. I now have

a very strong faith. I like to think of it as a broken bone; doctors say it

heals back stronger than before. So I feel I am healing even stronger in the

areas I was damaged. What about you? :-)

-Coal Miner's Daughter

>

> Hi Coal miner daughter!

> From all the abuses for me the spiritual abuse is almost the worst one. At

least for me.I consider myself deeply spiritual but I'm completely allergic on

this kind of abuse. It is easier to heal body and mind than to heal your spirit.

I'm a journalist and I met some children who where similar (or even worst) used

by their parents or other adults. It was deeply touched when I see how much

problems this kids have later in their live. I made some articles about that and

I fought some battles for this kids. It always shocked me that society don't

see any real problem in that or how much they are afraid to interfere

sometimes.

>

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