Re: upbringing

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Tai;I've been listening to the tapes I got from IE, and they talk about how, when parents focus in on what their kids are eating, the kids will gain weight. Something about the focus makes it happen - i.e., what we focus on, we become. That seems to be working for me, too. As soon as I focused in on my weight, it became a problem.To: IntuitiveEating_Support From: tailyngrey@...Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 20:12:45 -0700Subject: upbringing

Georgiapeach, I remember how my mother would always be concerned about how much I ate, especially when I was a teenager. She did not starve me, but if I were to eat too much, in her opinion, she'd say something about it, and I would stop. I remember how hungry I felt when I wanted something after dinner, and we thought sherbet rather than ice cream would do the job. I was so hungry and I searched for food at night. I was also extremely physically active, now I am sedentary. When I weighed 155 I thought I was fat, but if I weighed 155 now, I'd think I was very attractive but still not good enough, because I remember how I felt at 155, still fat. When I weighed 119, I did not feel fat but I was young, ate very little, and was extremely active. Now I weigh over 200 pounds and have stopped weighing myself, though. I don't

want to think dieting, but I'm always thinking how much I'm eating. We gotta eat. Every day our body and mind reminds us that we gotta eat. I think I eat too much, however I am working on the concept of eating what I really want and understanding when I am hungry or not hungry. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2011 8:39 AMSubject: (unknown)

i really think that when someone has a diet mentality, they are already losing the battle. i recall when i was young, my mother told me i was fat when i weighed 100 pounds. i think that is when i first started having a weight problem. althought i do take responsiblity for what i put in my mouth and not exercising or moving. but that is when i first heard i had a weight issue. upon graduation, i weighed 155. my mom promised me a new closet full of clothes and the circle went around and around. so while in my teens, my mind set was already, overweight = not good enough. and here i am at nearly 47 still feeling that way.

i think what i am doing now (going on 3 weeks) is working and it is right FOR ME. i am watching what i eat........how much i eat.......but eating what i like and want to eat............i truly believe that portion control is key (especially w/me)........

but eating should be fun. in this world, overweight people are made to feel less than human or sub-par.....what is wrong w/eating? nothing.

change what you eat and eat to live.....

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That makes sense. As soon as my mother made a rude comment about me being "fat" when I was 7, it became a problem (I never even conceived of it before). I wasn't when she made the comment though - not if pictures are any proof. I've had a lot of resentment toward my mother about my weight (among other things), but she is definitely the source of my body image and self esteem issues. Makes me sad... I know that she suffered the same when she was a child.Subject: RE: upbringingTo: intuitiveeating_support Date: Wednesday, July 6, 2011, 2:11

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Tai;I've been listening to the tapes I got from IE, and they talk about how, when parents focus in on what their kids are eating, the kids will gain weight. Something about the focus makes it happen - i.e., what we focus on, we become. That seems to be working for me, too. As soon as I focused in on my weight, it became a problem.To: IntuitiveEating_Support From: tailyngrey@...Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 20:12:45 -0700Subject: upbringing

Georgiapeach, I remember how my mother would always be concerned about how much I ate, especially when I was a teenager. She did not starve me, but if I were to eat too much, in her opinion, she'd say something about it, and I would stop. I remember how hungry I felt when I wanted something after dinner, and we thought sherbet rather than ice cream would do the job. I was so hungry and I searched for food at night. I was also extremely physically active, now I am sedentary. When I weighed 155 I thought I was fat, but if I weighed 155 now, I'd think I was very attractive but still not good enough, because I remember how I felt at 155, still fat. When I weighed 119, I did not feel fat but I was young, ate very little, and was extremely active. Now I weigh over 200 pounds and have stopped weighing myself, though. I don't

want to think dieting, but I'm always thinking how much I'm eating. We gotta eat. Every day our body and mind reminds us that we gotta eat. I think I eat too much, however I am working on the concept of eating what I really want and understanding when I am hungry or not hungry. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2011 8:39 AMSubject: (unknown)

i really think that when someone has a diet mentality, they are already losing the battle. i recall when i was young, my mother told me i was fat when i weighed 100 pounds. i think that is when i first started having a weight problem. althought i do take responsiblity for what i put in my mouth and not exercising or moving. but that is when i first heard i had a weight issue. upon graduation, i weighed 155. my mom promised me a new closet full of clothes and the circle went around and around. so while in my teens, my mind set was already, overweight = not good enough. and here i am at nearly 47 still feeling that way.

i think what i am doing now (going on 3 weeks) is working and it is right FOR ME. i am watching what i eat........how much i eat.......but eating what i like and want to eat............i truly believe that portion control is key (especially w/me)........

but eating should be fun. in this world, overweight people are made to feel less than human or sub-par.....what is wrong w/eating? nothing.

change what you eat and eat to live.....

[Guest guest]

-- isn't it hard not to focus on weight or how much we are eating? Tai==================To: intuitiveeating_support Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 5:11 PMSubject: RE: upbringing

Tai;I've been listening to the tapes I got from IE, and they talk about how, when parents focus in on what their kids are eating, the kids will gain weight. Something about the focus makes it happen - i.e., what we focus on, we become. That seems to be working for me, too. As soon as I focused in on my weight, it became a problem.

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Tai and ,  Yes it is hard to not let this consume me too.    Gillian suggested I think about other aspects of my life, because IE is not just about food and weight, but about the total picture.  I am re-vitalizing my creative endeavors.  I ordered some fun creativity un-blockers from and Noble that are due to arrive Friday. One's called a Whack on the Side of the Head and the other is Rory's story cubes.  I still would like to finish at least one of the multiple unfinished projects I have already.  Sandy

 

-- isn't it hard not to focus on weight or how much we are eating? Tai

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To: intuitiveeating_support

Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 5:11 PMSubject: RE: upbringing

 

Tai;I've been listening to the tapes I got from IE, and they talk about how, when parents focus in on what their kids are eating, the kids will gain weight.  Something about the focus makes it happen - i.e., what we focus on, we become.  That seems to be working for me, too.  As soon as I focused in on my weight, it became a problem.

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Tai and Sandy;Yes it's hard, but it gets easier. They talk about "body bashing," which is when we compare ourselves to others, for better or for worse. I catch myself doing that, and I stop it. When I call myself names, I remind myself that I would never tolerate that language from anyone else. I counter it with something positive. I find something I do like about myself (for instance, I have great hair), and I focus on that. Changing my focus has been key to this process, and I'm not done yet. But it is getting easier.To: IntuitiveEating_Support From: sandyb1234@...Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 07:41:44 -0400Subject: Re: upbringing

Tai and , Yes it is hard to not let this consume me too. Gillian suggested I think about other aspects of my life, because IE is not just about food and weight, but about the total picture. I am re-vitalizing my creative endeavors. I ordered some fun creativity un-blockers from and Noble that are due to arrive Friday. One's called a Whack on the Side of the Head and the other is Rory's story cubes. I still would like to finish at least one of the multiple unfinished projects I have already. Sandy

-- isn't it hard not to focus on weight or how much we are eating? Tai

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To: intuitiveeating_support

Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 5:11 PMSubject: RE: upbringing

Tai;I've been listening to the tapes I got from IE, and they talk about how, when parents focus in on what their kids are eating, the kids will gain weight. Something about the focus makes it happen - i.e., what we focus on, we become. That seems to be working for me, too. As soon as I focused in on my weight, it became a problem.

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Tai and Sandy;Yes it's hard, but it gets easier. They talk about "body bashing," which is when we compare ourselves to others, for better or for worse. I catch myself doing that, and I stop it. When I call myself names, I remind myself that I would never tolerate that language from anyone else. I counter it with something positive. I find something I do like about myself (for instance, I have great hair), and I focus on that. Changing my focus has been key to this process, and I'm not done yet. But it is getting easier.To: IntuitiveEating_Support From: sandyb1234@...Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 07:41:44 -0400Subject: Re: upbringing

Tai and , Yes it is hard to not let this consume me too. Gillian suggested I think about other aspects of my life, because IE is not just about food and weight, but about the total picture. I am re-vitalizing my creative endeavors. I ordered some fun creativity un-blockers from and Noble that are due to arrive Friday. One's called a Whack on the Side of the Head and the other is Rory's story cubes. I still would like to finish at least one of the multiple unfinished projects I have already. Sandy

-- isn't it hard not to focus on weight or how much we are eating? Tai

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To: intuitiveeating_support

Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 5:11 PMSubject: RE: upbringing

Tai;I've been listening to the tapes I got from IE, and they talk about how, when parents focus in on what their kids are eating, the kids will gain weight. Something about the focus makes it happen - i.e., what we focus on, we become. That seems to be working for me, too. As soon as I focused in on my weight, it became a problem.

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And... with this country's obsession with thinness, isn't everyone focused on weight now? Hmmm. Makes you wonder.Subject: Re: upbringingTo: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Date: Wednesday, July 6, 2011, 10:20 PM

-- isn't it hard not to focus on weight or how much we are eating? Tai==================To: intuitiveeating_support Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 5:11 PMSubject: RE: upbringing

Tai;I've been listening to the tapes I got from IE, and they talk about how, when parents focus in on what their kids are eating, the kids will gain weight. Something about the focus makes it happen - i.e., what we focus on, we become. That seems to be working for me, too. As soon as I focused in on my weight, it became a problem.

[Guest guest]

Since embracing IE more in my life I have stared thinking about the compulsion

of 'thinness' that is being heaped upon us by the medical profession and society

in general. My conclusions are hardly mainstream to say the least but it seems

to me that -

1) Getting 'stouter' as we age is normal for many (genetic type) people. This

has to serve a purpose or our bodies would resist it. In fact it seems to me

that older people are served by having SOME 'reserves' as aging difficulties

become more challenging and taxing on their bodies.

2) Medical doctors receive little if ANY 'nurtition' training and what they

learn is more than likely 'fed' to them by studies made by the dieting industry.

3) The dieting industry is BIG BUCKS (Billions easily) each year. Considering

that the last leg of the diet cycle is REGAINING 'lost' weight, promoting itself

by focusing on shame for weight and 'glamor'/sexiness of thin guarantees that

there will ALWAYS be a perpetual need for their services and products.

OK, off soap box now ;-)

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

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> And... with this country's obsession with thinness, isn't everyone focused on

weight now?  Hmmm.  Makes you wonder.

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I am coming to the conclusion that it is very hard not to think about food for most of us. I'm sure there are people somewhere that do not have food on their minds a lot. I don't know where they are, but I'm sure they are there. I would love to know how those people think. TaiTo: intuitiveeating_support Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 9:58 AMSubject: RE: upbringing

Tai and Sandy;Yes it's hard, but it gets easier. They talk about "body bashing," which is when we compare ourselves to others, for better or for worse. I catch myself doing that, and I stop it. When I call myself names, I remind myself that I would never tolerate that language from anyone else. I counter it with something positive. I find something I do like about myself (for instance, I have great hair), and I focus on that. Changing my focus has been key to this process, and I'm not done yet. But it is getting easier.To: IntuitiveEating_Support From: sandyb1234@...Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 07:41:44 -0400Subject: Re: upbringing

Tai and , Yes it is hard to not let this consume me too. Gillian suggested I think about other aspects of my life, because IE is not just about food and weight, but about the total picture. I am re-vitalizing my creative endeavors. I ordered some fun creativity un-blockers from and Noble that are due to arrive Friday. One's called a Whack on the Side of the Head and the other is Rory's story cubes. I still would like to finish at least one of the multiple unfinished projects I have already. Sandy

-- isn't it hard not to focus on weight or how much we are eating? Tai

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To: intuitiveeating_support

Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 5:11 PMSubject: RE: upbringing

Tai;I've been listening to the tapes I got from IE, and they talk about how, when parents focus in on what their kids are eating, the kids will gain weight. Something about the focus makes it happen - i.e., what we focus on, we become. That seems to be working for me, too. As soon as I focused in on my weight, it became a problem.

[Guest guest]

:-) Talk about unfinished projects, Sandy. Sounds like you have a lot going on, and a lot of creative energy. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 7:41 AMSubject: Re: upbringing

Tai and , Yes it is hard to not let this consume me too. Gillian suggested I think about other aspects of my life, because IE is not just about food and weight, but about the total picture. I am re-vitalizing my creative endeavors. I ordered some fun creativity un-blockers from and Noble that are due to arrive Friday. One's called a Whack on the Side of the Head and the other is Rory's story cubes. I still would like to finish at least one of the multiple unfinished projects I have already. Sandy

-- isn't it hard not to focus on weight or how much we are eating? Tai

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To: intuitiveeating_support

Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 5:11 PMSubject: RE: upbringing

Tai;I've been listening to the tapes I got from IE, and they talk about how, when parents focus in on what their kids are eating, the kids will gain weight. Something about the focus makes it happen - i.e., what we focus on, we become. That seems to be working for me, too. As soon as I focused in on my weight, it became a problem.

[Guest guest]

Tai, I am learning to let go of some of them that have run their course.  I donated most of my puppets to the library which has a wonderful program, not only putting on weekly shows, but teaching the older children to do puppetry.  I read a book called " Refuse to choose " and it was very helpful for me.  It's about some creative people who have lots of unfinished projects, lots of interests, and that's ok.   Not like we may have been raised to have finished one thing before going to another.  I do housework that way, pick up clothes in one room, take to bedroom, make bed, back to bathroom, etc.  I do not clean one room top to bottom before moving on to another.  I still have some of the " guilt " about not finishing some of my creative endeavors though.  Some of it is not guilt, but wanting that sheer joy of working on them, not have to but want to. I am expecting some new things in the mail today even.  Maybe they will reignite the spark.  My friend used to call it incubation time between spurts of productivity.  Sandy

 

:-) Talk about unfinished projects, Sandy. Sounds like you have a lot going on, and a lot of creative energy. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 7:41 AMSubject: Re: upbringing

 

Tai and ,  Yes it is hard to not let this consume me too.    Gillian suggested I think about other aspects of my life, because IE is not just about food and weight, but about the total picture.  I am re-vitalizing my creative endeavors.  I ordered some fun creativity un-blockers from and Noble that are due to arrive Friday. One's called a Whack on the Side of the Head and the other is Rory's story cubes.  I still would like to finish at least one of the multiple unfinished projects I have already.  Sandy

 

-- isn't it hard not to focus on weight or how much we are eating? Tai

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To: intuitiveeating_support

Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 5:11 PMSubject: RE: upbringing

 

Tai;I've been listening to the tapes I got from IE, and they talk about how, when parents focus in on what their kids are eating, the kids will gain weight.  Something about the focus makes it happen - i.e., what we focus on, we become.  That seems to be working for me, too.  As soon as I focused in on my weight, it became a problem.

[Guest guest]

Getting 'stouter' as we age is normal for

many (genetic type) people.

This is correct. It is natural and normal to gain some weight as you

age. In other words, your "natural, ideal" weight increases with

age. Additionally, your "ideal" weight will depend on other factors,

such as your levels of exercise.

As usual, it is better to focus on health (both mental and physical)

instead of on your weight.

Paddy

[Guest guest]

Hi Tai,

I am new to this group but I agree with you, it is hard to not focus on weight

and how much i eating. I find it very triggering when i eat foods my old

" dieter mentality " believed were off limits.

Have a nice night.

Ann

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> I've been listening to the tapes I got from IE, and they talk about how, when

parents focus in on what their kids are eating, the kids will gain weight.

 Something about the focus makes it happen - i.e., what we focus on, we become.

 That seems to be working for me, too.  As soon as I focused in on my weight, it

became a problem.

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Hi Tai,

I am new to this group but I agree with you, it is hard to not focus on weight

and how much i eating. I find it very triggering when i eat foods my old

" dieter mentality " believed were off limits.

Have a nice night.

Ann

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> Tai;

> I've been listening to the tapes I got from IE, and they talk about how, when

parents focus in on what their kids are eating, the kids will gain weight.

 Something about the focus makes it happen - i.e., what we focus on, we become.

 That seems to be working for me, too.  As soon as I focused in on my weight, it

became a problem.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Tai,

I am new to this group but I agree with you, it is hard to not focus on weight

and how much i eating. I find it very triggering when i eat foods my old

" dieter mentality " believed were off limits.

Have a nice night.

Ann

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> Tai;

> I've been listening to the tapes I got from IE, and they talk about how, when

parents focus in on what their kids are eating, the kids will gain weight.

 Something about the focus makes it happen - i.e., what we focus on, we become.

 That seems to be working for me, too.  As soon as I focused in on my weight, it

became a problem.

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[Guest guest]

Hi, Ann, nice to know we're at the same page. :-) Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2011 11:57 PMSubject: Re: upbringing

Hi Tai, I am new to this group but I agree with you, it is hard to not focus on weight and how much i eating. I find it very triggering when i eat foods my old "dieter mentality" believed were off limits. Have a nice night.Ann >> -- isn't it hard not to focus on weight or how much we are eating? Tai> ==================> > > > > To: intuitiveeating_support > Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 5:11 PM> Subject: RE:

upbringing> > > > Tai;> I've been listening to the tapes I got from IE, and they talk about how, when parents focus in on what their kids are eating, the kids will gain weight. Something about the focus makes it happen - i.e., what we focus on, we become. That seems to be working for me, too. As soon as I focused in on my weight, it became a problem.> >

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Hi, Ann, nice to know we're at the same page. :-) Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2011 11:57 PMSubject: Re: upbringing

Hi Tai, I am new to this group but I agree with you, it is hard to not focus on weight and how much i eating. I find it very triggering when i eat foods my old "dieter mentality" believed were off limits. Have a nice night.Ann >> -- isn't it hard not to focus on weight or how much we are eating? Tai> ==================> > > > > To: intuitiveeating_support > Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 5:11 PM> Subject: RE:

upbringing> > > > Tai;> I've been listening to the tapes I got from IE, and they talk about how, when parents focus in on what their kids are eating, the kids will gain weight. Something about the focus makes it happen - i.e., what we focus on, we become. That seems to be working for me, too. As soon as I focused in on my weight, it became a problem.> >