Guest guest Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 There are a few more things that you might want to consider removing too until the behaviors stop. Look into Feingold Elimination. Tomatoes, Cucumbers All berries , except blueberries Peaches, Plums, Apples, Almonds, grapes, raisins..and there are some others. We have followed it, and we just tried grapes about a month 1/2 ago, and it was still a problem... ugh. Feel for you!! laura > > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream " diet infraction!!! " , but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ? > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 There are a few more things that you might want to consider removing too until the behaviors stop. Look into Feingold Elimination. Tomatoes, Cucumbers All berries , except blueberries Peaches, Plums, Apples, Almonds, grapes, raisins..and there are some others. We have followed it, and we just tried grapes about a month 1/2 ago, and it was still a problem... ugh. Feel for you!! laura > > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream " diet infraction!!! " , but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ? > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 I'll look into Feingold - thank-you.'s diet is so very limited already. He's in feeding therapy to try to expand his menu. He actually hardly eat any of the foods you mentioned, except he does drink apple juice and almond milk. I'll switch those to pear juice and hemp milk, though. I'll also be sure to exclude berries and peaches from his smoothies and pancakes from now on.Thanks, again! There are a few more things that you might want to consider removing too until the behaviors stop. Look into Feingold Elimination. Tomatoes, Cucumbers All berries , except blueberries Peaches, Plums, Apples, Almonds, grapes, raisins..and there are some others. We have followed it, and we just tried grapes about a month 1/2 ago, and it was still a problem... ugh. Feel for you!! laura > > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream "diet infraction!!!", but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ? > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 I'll look into Feingold - thank-you.'s diet is so very limited already. He's in feeding therapy to try to expand his menu. He actually hardly eat any of the foods you mentioned, except he does drink apple juice and almond milk. I'll switch those to pear juice and hemp milk, though. I'll also be sure to exclude berries and peaches from his smoothies and pancakes from now on.Thanks, again! There are a few more things that you might want to consider removing too until the behaviors stop. Look into Feingold Elimination. Tomatoes, Cucumbers All berries , except blueberries Peaches, Plums, Apples, Almonds, grapes, raisins..and there are some others. We have followed it, and we just tried grapes about a month 1/2 ago, and it was still a problem... ugh. Feel for you!! laura > > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream "diet infraction!!!", but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ? > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 I'll look into Feingold - thank-you.'s diet is so very limited already. He's in feeding therapy to try to expand his menu. He actually hardly eat any of the foods you mentioned, except he does drink apple juice and almond milk. I'll switch those to pear juice and hemp milk, though. I'll also be sure to exclude berries and peaches from his smoothies and pancakes from now on.Thanks, again! There are a few more things that you might want to consider removing too until the behaviors stop. Look into Feingold Elimination. Tomatoes, Cucumbers All berries , except blueberries Peaches, Plums, Apples, Almonds, grapes, raisins..and there are some others. We have followed it, and we just tried grapes about a month 1/2 ago, and it was still a problem... ugh. Feel for you!! laura > > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream "diet infraction!!!", but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ? > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 , how is his feeding program going? Was it difficult to move toGfcf or whichever diet you're on when your son was already a picky eater? Â I'll look into Feingold - thank-you.'s diet is so very limited already. Â He's in feeding therapy to try to expand his menu. Â He actually hardly eat any of the foods you mentioned, except he does drink apple juice and almond milk. Â I'll switch those to pear juice and hemp milk, though. Â I'll also be sure to exclude berries and peaches from his smoothies and pancakes from now on. Thanks, again! Â There are a few more things that you might want to consider removing too until the behaviors stop. Look into Feingold Elimination. Tomatoes, Cucumbers All berries , except blueberries Peaches, Plums, Apples, Almonds, grapes, raisins..and there are some others. We have followed it, and we just tried grapes about a month 1/2 ago, and it was still a problem... ugh. Feel for you!! laura > > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream " diet infraction!!! " , but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ? > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 , how is his feeding program going? Was it difficult to move toGfcf or whichever diet you're on when your son was already a picky eater? Â I'll look into Feingold - thank-you.'s diet is so very limited already. Â He's in feeding therapy to try to expand his menu. Â He actually hardly eat any of the foods you mentioned, except he does drink apple juice and almond milk. Â I'll switch those to pear juice and hemp milk, though. Â I'll also be sure to exclude berries and peaches from his smoothies and pancakes from now on. Thanks, again! Â There are a few more things that you might want to consider removing too until the behaviors stop. Look into Feingold Elimination. Tomatoes, Cucumbers All berries , except blueberries Peaches, Plums, Apples, Almonds, grapes, raisins..and there are some others. We have followed it, and we just tried grapes about a month 1/2 ago, and it was still a problem... ugh. Feel for you!! laura > > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream " diet infraction!!! " , but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ? > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 , how is his feeding program going? Was it difficult to move toGfcf or whichever diet you're on when your son was already a picky eater? Â I'll look into Feingold - thank-you.'s diet is so very limited already. Â He's in feeding therapy to try to expand his menu. Â He actually hardly eat any of the foods you mentioned, except he does drink apple juice and almond milk. Â I'll switch those to pear juice and hemp milk, though. Â I'll also be sure to exclude berries and peaches from his smoothies and pancakes from now on. Thanks, again! Â There are a few more things that you might want to consider removing too until the behaviors stop. Look into Feingold Elimination. Tomatoes, Cucumbers All berries , except blueberries Peaches, Plums, Apples, Almonds, grapes, raisins..and there are some others. We have followed it, and we just tried grapes about a month 1/2 ago, and it was still a problem... ugh. Feel for you!! laura > > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream " diet infraction!!! " , but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ? > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 I understand. Jimmy likes to eat, but I constantly have to say, 'that hurts your belly, can't have that.' We do gf/cf/sf (some soy lethicin), and mostly corn free (except organic tortilla chips), Feingold, (TRY) to do low ox, and IGg panel free...yeah, we know limited! Do you juice at all? laura > > > > > > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream " diet infraction!!! " , but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ? > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Hi,It's really slow-going. We've finally got him accepting different kinds of meat and bread, but he still wont touch any fruits or veggies (except for the rare banana), noodles, eggs... the list goes on.It actually was not hard to go gfcfsf with him. We just went from regular oatmeal, pancakes, hamburgers, etc... to rice cereal, and gfcf versions of what he would eat. :-) , how is his feeding program going? Was it difficult to move toGfcf or whichever diet you're on when your son was already a picky eater? I'll look into Feingold - thank-you.'s diet is so very limited already. He's in feeding therapy to try to expand his menu. He actually hardly eat any of the foods you mentioned, except he does drink apple juice and almond milk. I'll switch those to pear juice and hemp milk, though. I'll also be sure to exclude berries and peaches from his smoothies and pancakes from now on. Thanks, again! There are a few more things that you might want to consider removing too until the behaviors stop. Look into Feingold Elimination. Tomatoes, Cucumbers All berries , except blueberries Peaches, Plums, Apples, Almonds, grapes, raisins..and there are some others. We have followed it, and we just tried grapes about a month 1/2 ago, and it was still a problem... ugh. Feel for you!! laura > > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream "diet infraction!!!", but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ? > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 We don't juice, but maybe we should look into it? doesn't eat any fruits or veggies except for the few things I can hide in his meat, or what I put in his smoothies. I understand. Jimmy likes to eat, but I constantly have to say, 'that hurts your belly, can't have that.' We do gf/cf/sf (some soy lethicin), and mostly corn free (except organic tortilla chips), Feingold, (TRY) to do low ox, and IGg panel free...yeah, we know limited! Do you juice at all? laura > > > > > > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream "diet infraction!!!", but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ? > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 As mentioned, you want to try to do low oxalate. If you have phenol sensitivity, this can be helped by doing a low oxalate + Feingold diet. Oxalate somehow messes with PST enzyme/transporters so if you reduce the oxalate, it is another way of helping with the phenols. Hemp milk is also high oxalate. Milk subs are hard to find on the LOD but do what you can, almost anything is better than almond. Sigh (I love almond milk, I mean the flavor, but we don't ever use it now!) Â We don't juice, but maybe we should look into it? Â doesn't eat any fruits or veggies except for the few things I can hide in his meat, or what I put in his smoothies. Â I understand. Jimmy likes to eat, but I constantly have to say, 'that hurts your belly, can't have that.' We do gf/cf/sf (some soy lethicin), and mostly corn free (except organic tortilla chips), Feingold, (TRY) to do low ox, and IGg panel free...yeah, we know limited! Do you juice at all? laura > > > > > > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream " diet infraction!!! " , but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ? > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Is Coconut Milk ok? - Kirk- To: mb12 valtrex From: bellbaby@...Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 09:38:21 -0500Subject: Re: Re: What's Going On? As mentioned, you want to try to do low oxalate. If you have phenol sensitivity, this can be helped by doing a low oxalate + Feingold diet. Oxalate somehow messes with PST enzyme/transporters so if you reduce the oxalate, it is another way of helping with the phenols.Hemp milk is also high oxalate. Milk subs are hard to find on the LOD but do what you can, almost anything is better than almond. Sigh (I love almond milk, I mean the flavor, but we don't ever use it now!) We don't juice, but maybe we should look into it? doesn't eat any fruits or veggies except for the few things I can hide in his meat, or what I put in his smoothies. I understand. Jimmy likes to eat, but I constantly have to say, 'that hurts your belly, can't have that.' We do gf/cf/sf (some soy lethicin), and mostly corn free (except organic tortilla chips), Feingold, (TRY) to do low ox, and IGg panel free...yeah, we know limited! Do you juice at all?laura > > > > >> > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream "diet infraction!!!", but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ?> > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him?> > > > > > > > > > Thanks.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > >> -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 what about rice milk (aside from the yeast-feeding issue)? Is Coconut Milk ok? - Kirk- To: mb12 valtrex From: bellbaby@...Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 09:38:21 -0500Subject: Re: Re: What's Going On? As mentioned, you want to try to do low oxalate. If you have phenol sensitivity, this can be helped by doing a low oxalate + Feingold diet. Oxalate somehow messes with PST enzyme/transporters so if you reduce the oxalate, it is another way of helping with the phenols.Hemp milk is also high oxalate. Milk subs are hard to find on the LOD but do what you can, almost anything is better than almond. Sigh (I love almond milk, I mean the flavor, but we don't ever use it now!) We don't juice, but maybe we should look into it? doesn't eat any fruits or veggies except for the few things I can hide in his meat, or what I put in his smoothies. I understand. Jimmy likes to eat, but I constantly have to say, 'that hurts your belly, can't have that.' We do gf/cf/sf (some soy lethicin), and mostly corn free (except organic tortilla chips), Feingold, (TRY) to do low ox, and IGg panel free...yeah, we know limited! Do you juice at all?laura > > > > >> > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream "diet infraction!!!", but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ?> > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him?> > > > > > > > > > Thanks.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > >> -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 rages and self injury can also be opiate, infractions, clostrida and yeast From: Seraphine Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 10:48 PM To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: What's Going On? Thank-you so much for your reply. He does seem to fit several symptoms of PANDAS, but not the OCD part, which I think is the biggest component, right? This is definitely worth looking into, and I'll be doing so. Could very well be PANDAS. Self injury and rages is a symptom of PANDAS. Go to this website to learn more www.pandasnetwork.org Strep is prevalent this time of year. Subject: What's Going On?To: mb12 valtrex Date: Monday, January 10, 2011, 1:28 PM I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream "diet infraction!!!", but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ?Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him?Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 rages and self injury can also be opiate, infractions, clostrida and yeast From: Seraphine Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 10:48 PM To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: What's Going On? Thank-you so much for your reply. He does seem to fit several symptoms of PANDAS, but not the OCD part, which I think is the biggest component, right? This is definitely worth looking into, and I'll be doing so. Could very well be PANDAS. Self injury and rages is a symptom of PANDAS. Go to this website to learn more www.pandasnetwork.org Strep is prevalent this time of year. Subject: What's Going On?To: mb12 valtrex Date: Monday, January 10, 2011, 1:28 PM I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream "diet infraction!!!", but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ?Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him?Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 rages and self injury can also be opiate, infractions, clostrida and yeast From: Seraphine Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 10:48 PM To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: What's Going On? Thank-you so much for your reply. He does seem to fit several symptoms of PANDAS, but not the OCD part, which I think is the biggest component, right? This is definitely worth looking into, and I'll be doing so. Could very well be PANDAS. Self injury and rages is a symptom of PANDAS. Go to this website to learn more www.pandasnetwork.org Strep is prevalent this time of year. Subject: What's Going On?To: mb12 valtrex Date: Monday, January 10, 2011, 1:28 PM I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream "diet infraction!!!", but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ?Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him?Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 We HAD yeast issues. I never stopped feeding fruit or sugar (you know, in moderation)...We don't have them. I have never really taken him off rice milk. That being said, I know lots of listers have said that they needed to remove these things to get the yeast under control. We used Flagyl and Diflucan. (This did the major work) and then we use fermented veggies/KimChi. I also used Syntol and Candex (worked wonders -- I used up to 12 caps of Syntol and 6 of candex) and then the probiotics morning and night. (Cultrelle after we were doing Flagyl and Diflucan)...and I got rid of Klebsiella and Clostridia and his strep. (I did stop using Threelac at the advice of the board) So...yeast I felt was a symtom of a much bigger problem. I tried to treat the symptoms, but I didn't go nuts. laura > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream " diet infraction!!! " , but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Toni > > > > ------ > > Mind like a steel trap... > > Rusty and illegal in 37 states. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 it can be anything! do you rotate? that may help you find the problem but you are right in my house that would mean an opiate got in, gluten, soy or milk.....did you start any new suppliments? From: laurargoddin Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 9:25 PM To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: What's Going On? I thought the same - 'infraction' -- however, that being said, it sound like an allergy. This is exactly how my son was before we removed milk. New allergy? Corn makes Rob itch like crazy. It made him nuts. Scratching relentlessly..my daughter too. She got rashes (bad ones, I mean, REALLY BAD ones.) That being said, as a sort of - test - to see if the antidote to 'corn' allergy really is: EFA's, Magnesium and Potassium, Histidine, black walnut, kelp and bee pollen. I added Bee Pollen and more EFA's to Maddie's diet, this took care of the bad rashes. (This is according to my book, The ultimate healing system by LePore, ND.)According to this book - the rice allergy antidote is: Pyrdoxine (B6), B12, Manganese, Arginine, Proline, Yucca and Beet Powder.Is there something he likes to eat a lot of (or eats a lot of?)You might want to add more B-Vitamins anyway (because they are anti-stress, and it sounds like he is completely stressed) -- and I would also add L-Theanine. It works really well for me (when I am stressed out.) They also make it in a gum...thought I would throw that out there... some suggestions. Oh, and if it's ammonia, I believe Chlorophyll can render it neutral, and L-Arginine (and ornithine) assist the body in neutralizing it as well. and now that I am thinking about it...it sound like, he's got PST deficiency. ...let me go look, and I will post it..laura >> I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream "diet infraction!!!", but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ?> > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him?> > Thanks.> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 it can be anything! do you rotate? that may help you find the problem but you are right in my house that would mean an opiate got in, gluten, soy or milk.....did you start any new suppliments? From: laurargoddin Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 9:25 PM To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: What's Going On? I thought the same - 'infraction' -- however, that being said, it sound like an allergy. This is exactly how my son was before we removed milk. New allergy? Corn makes Rob itch like crazy. It made him nuts. Scratching relentlessly..my daughter too. She got rashes (bad ones, I mean, REALLY BAD ones.) That being said, as a sort of - test - to see if the antidote to 'corn' allergy really is: EFA's, Magnesium and Potassium, Histidine, black walnut, kelp and bee pollen. I added Bee Pollen and more EFA's to Maddie's diet, this took care of the bad rashes. (This is according to my book, The ultimate healing system by LePore, ND.)According to this book - the rice allergy antidote is: Pyrdoxine (B6), B12, Manganese, Arginine, Proline, Yucca and Beet Powder.Is there something he likes to eat a lot of (or eats a lot of?)You might want to add more B-Vitamins anyway (because they are anti-stress, and it sounds like he is completely stressed) -- and I would also add L-Theanine. It works really well for me (when I am stressed out.) They also make it in a gum...thought I would throw that out there... some suggestions. Oh, and if it's ammonia, I believe Chlorophyll can render it neutral, and L-Arginine (and ornithine) assist the body in neutralizing it as well. and now that I am thinking about it...it sound like, he's got PST deficiency. ...let me go look, and I will post it..laura >> I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream "diet infraction!!!", but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ?> > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him?> > Thanks.> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 it can be anything! do you rotate? that may help you find the problem but you are right in my house that would mean an opiate got in, gluten, soy or milk.....did you start any new suppliments? From: laurargoddin Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 9:25 PM To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: What's Going On? I thought the same - 'infraction' -- however, that being said, it sound like an allergy. This is exactly how my son was before we removed milk. New allergy? Corn makes Rob itch like crazy. It made him nuts. Scratching relentlessly..my daughter too. She got rashes (bad ones, I mean, REALLY BAD ones.) That being said, as a sort of - test - to see if the antidote to 'corn' allergy really is: EFA's, Magnesium and Potassium, Histidine, black walnut, kelp and bee pollen. I added Bee Pollen and more EFA's to Maddie's diet, this took care of the bad rashes. (This is according to my book, The ultimate healing system by LePore, ND.)According to this book - the rice allergy antidote is: Pyrdoxine (B6), B12, Manganese, Arginine, Proline, Yucca and Beet Powder.Is there something he likes to eat a lot of (or eats a lot of?)You might want to add more B-Vitamins anyway (because they are anti-stress, and it sounds like he is completely stressed) -- and I would also add L-Theanine. It works really well for me (when I am stressed out.) They also make it in a gum...thought I would throw that out there... some suggestions. Oh, and if it's ammonia, I believe Chlorophyll can render it neutral, and L-Arginine (and ornithine) assist the body in neutralizing it as well. and now that I am thinking about it...it sound like, he's got PST deficiency. ...let me go look, and I will post it..laura >> I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream "diet infraction!!!", but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ?> > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him?> > Thanks.> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Thanks so much for your input!His classroom aide had a sub on Thursday and Friday. I wonder if he took someone else's snack, and the sub didn't think it was a big deal.I don't rotate, since he is so limited with he eats - it would be impossible, I think! The only new supplement we began was Trienza, replacing Zyme Prime and AFP Peptizide.I'm wondering if this all started with an infraction, and I made it worse by increasing his enhansa and switching to almond milk.He's doing better today (so far). Not self-injurious at all, but still trying to pinch and bite others (and me!) a lot. it can be anything! do you rotate? that may help you find the problem but you are right in my house that would mean an opiate got in, gluten, soy or milk.....did you start any new suppliments? From: laurargoddin Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 9:25 PM To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: What's Going On? I thought the same - 'infraction' -- however, that being said, it sound like an allergy. This is exactly how my son was before we removed milk. New allergy? Corn makes Rob itch like crazy. It made him nuts. Scratching relentlessly..my daughter too. She got rashes (bad ones, I mean, REALLY BAD ones.) That being said, as a sort of - test - to see if the antidote to 'corn' allergy really is: EFA's, Magnesium and Potassium, Histidine, black walnut, kelp and bee pollen. I added Bee Pollen and more EFA's to Maddie's diet, this took care of the bad rashes. (This is according to my book, The ultimate healing system by LePore, ND.)According to this book - the rice allergy antidote is: Pyrdoxine (B6), B12, Manganese, Arginine, Proline, Yucca and Beet Powder.Is there something he likes to eat a lot of (or eats a lot of?)You might want to add more B-Vitamins anyway (because they are anti-stress, and it sounds like he is completely stressed) -- and I would also add L-Theanine. It works really well for me (when I am stressed out.) They also make it in a gum...thought I would throw that out there... some suggestions. Oh, and if it's ammonia, I believe Chlorophyll can render it neutral, and L-Arginine (and ornithine) assist the body in neutralizing it as well. and now that I am thinking about it...it sound like, he's got PST deficiency. ...let me go look, and I will post it..laura >> I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream "diet infraction!!!", but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ?> > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him?> > Thanks.> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 yeah sounds like an infraction and you are rounding the end of it you can always rotate, my daughter had only 5 foods she tollerated for a while and we had to do it From: Seraphine Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:04 PM To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Re: What's Going On? Thanks so much for your input! His classroom aide had a sub on Thursday and Friday. I wonder if he took someone else's snack, and the sub didn't think it was a big deal. I don't rotate, since he is so limited with he eats - it would be impossible, I think! The only new supplement we began was Trienza, replacing Zyme Prime and AFP Peptizide. I'm wondering if this all started with an infraction, and I made it worse by increasing his enhansa and switching to almond milk. He's doing better today (so far). Not self-injurious at all, but still trying to pinch and bite others (and me!) a lot. it can be anything! do you rotate? that may help you find the problem but you are right in my house that would mean an opiate got in, gluten, soy or milk.....did you start any new suppliments? From: laurargoddin Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 9:25 PM To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: What's Going On? I thought the same - 'infraction' -- however, that being said, it sound like an allergy. This is exactly how my son was before we removed milk. New allergy? Corn makes Rob itch like crazy. It made him nuts. Scratching relentlessly..my daughter too. She got rashes (bad ones, I mean, REALLY BAD ones.) That being said, as a sort of - test - to see if the antidote to 'corn' allergy really is: EFA's, Magnesium and Potassium, Histidine, black walnut, kelp and bee pollen. I added Bee Pollen and more EFA's to Maddie's diet, this took care of the bad rashes. (This is according to my book, The ultimate healing system by LePore, ND.)According to this book - the rice allergy antidote is: Pyrdoxine (B6), B12, Manganese, Arginine, Proline, Yucca and Beet Powder.Is there something he likes to eat a lot of (or eats a lot of?)You might want to add more B-Vitamins anyway (because they are anti-stress, and it sounds like he is completely stressed) -- and I would also add L-Theanine. It works really well for me (when I am stressed out.) They also make it in a gum...thought I would throw that out there... some suggestions. Oh, and if it's ammonia, I believe Chlorophyll can render it neutral, and L-Arginine (and ornithine) assist the body in neutralizing it as well. and now that I am thinking about it...it sound like, he's got PST deficiency. ...let me go look, and I will post it..laura >> I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream "diet infraction!!!", but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ?> > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him?> > Thanks.> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 It seems like common knowledge but I didn't know--rice milk feeds yeast? We just switched to rice milk from homemade coconut milk b/c of huge Igg issues with coconut for my son. But I don't have the yeast under control and I don't want to make it worse  yeah sounds like an infraction and you are rounding the end of it you can always rotate, my daughter had only 5 foods she tollerated for a while and we had to do it  From: Seraphine Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:04 PM To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Re: What's Going On?  Thanks so much for your input! His classroom aide had a sub on Thursday and Friday.  I wonder if he took someone else's snack, and the sub didn't think it was a big deal. I don't rotate, since he is so limited with he eats - it would be impossible, I think!  The only new supplement we began was Trienza, replacing Zyme Prime and AFP Peptizide. I'm wondering if this all started with an infraction, and I made it worse by increasing his enhansa and switching to almond milk. He's doing better today (so far).  Not self-injurious at all, but still trying to pinch and bite others (and me!) a lot.  it can be anything! do you rotate? that may help you find the problem but you are right in my house that would mean an opiate got in, gluten, soy or milk.....did you start any new suppliments?  From: laurargoddin Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 9:25 PM To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: What's Going On?  I thought the same - 'infraction' -- however, that being said, it sound like an allergy. This is exactly how my son was before we removed milk. New allergy? Corn makes Rob itch like crazy. It made him nuts. Scratching relentlessly..my daughter too. She got rashes (bad ones, I mean, REALLY BAD ones.) That being said, as a sort of - test - to see if the antidote to 'corn' allergy really is: EFA's, Magnesium and Potassium, Histidine, black walnut, kelp and bee pollen. I added Bee Pollen and more EFA's to Maddie's diet, this took care of the bad rashes. (This is according to my book, The ultimate healing system by LePore, ND.)According to this book - the rice allergy antidote is: Pyrdoxine (B6), B12, Manganese, Arginine, Proline, Yucca and Beet Powder.Is there something he likes to eat a lot of (or eats a lot of?)You might want to add more B-Vitamins anyway (because they are anti-stress, and it sounds like he is completely stressed) -- and I would also add L-Theanine. It works really well for me (when I am stressed out.) They also make it in a gum...thought I would throw that out there... some suggestions. Oh, and if it's ammonia, I believe Chlorophyll can render it neutral, and L-Arginine (and ornithine) assist the body in neutralizing it as well. and now that I am thinking about it...it sound like, he's got PST deficiency. ...let me go look, and I will post it..laura >> I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream " diet infraction!!! " , but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ?> > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him?> > Thanks.> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 , for us, it took about 4 days (my son's magic number) to see a great improvement... hang in there. laura > > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream " diet infraction!!! " , but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ? > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.