Guest guest Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Tai, When I drink too much soda, I forget to drink water and then my bladder complains. Sandy Katcha, I have read things about water and electrolytes. Too much water is dangerous, that's true. But how much is too much? I keep a few bottles of water near me but I'm not constantly drinking. The reason I started drinking more water is when I developed bladder infections and realized I must drink more water because I wouldn't drink that much. If I had known this as a kid, maybe I wouldn't have had so many bladder infections and bouts with stones. No, I do not think that a normal amount whatever that is, will wash out electrolytes from the body. When we were traveling I noticed that some areas have tastier water than others. I didn't want the water that didn't taste good. I use filters now and I like them, but our normal water supply isn't bad. Cool water I find to be more refreshing than lukewarm water. I also like seltzer water sometimes. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:43 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Katcha, thanks for that info on the salt, although I do eat probably too much salt. I too find my mouth feels dry and was blaming it on maybe the plastic bottles(trying thermos), but also wonder if because I drink/sip it all the time maybe I have interfered with my body's ability to make saliva. When I have diet soda, especially with caffeine like when we go out, my mouth feels like it is " burning " . That's one reason I don't drink it at home. Sandy Tai, my struggles with water run deep. First I'm not all that fond of plain water. Like you, a slice or dash of lemon goes a long way towards making it 'tasty'. Secondly my thirst signals must have been 'disowned' for even longer than my hunger signs as I still never really feel 'thirsty', only dry. About the only way I have been able to keep better hydrated is to have several small water bottles filled and at places around that house that I hang out at (computer!). That has helped me to drink water when I otherwise wouldn't even think about it. Another 'odd' thing that I find when I drink water is that I can get drier! When my mouth is dry but bladder is overflowing what I need is salt. I do not eat hardly any 'processed' food (scratch cook) and tend to be lighter on salt when cooking since one can always add it. When I get drier after drinking water, having the merest bit of salt helps my body go 'ahhh!' like dry ground does to rain. I think its possible that my drinking too much plain water actually flushes excessive electrolytes?!? So water drinking has become an 'art form' for me ;-) Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Katcha, when I go to a restaurant I always order water with lemon with my meal. Anyway, it's cheaper than soda or something like that. And the water just looks so good and it's so cool that I love to drink it, usually! Sometimes I don't drink as much as I would like because I know I'm paying for the meal, not the water, and I don't want to fill up. But if you're waiting for your nose & throat to be dry, you're waiting too long. Hint: that's how kidney stones, etc., are formed when we don't drink enough wa-wa. Also, I put a Brita personal bottle in the refrigerator so I can take it to the computer and TV with me when I'm sittin' around. Now that we're talking about it, I think I'm going to get some water next trip. With love, Tai > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Hi, Sandy. This morning I wasn't sure if I was hungry after breakfast or thirsty. I decided to have a cup of coffee. That was enough and I didn't beg inside to eat more. Thanks for asking. Now that you mention it, I remember my stomach was signaling me something, wasn't sure what it was because I could not have been hungry technically speaking of course, since I had eaten a fairly nutritious breakfast. Therefore I decided it must be something else and so I had coffee. When I pass a water fountain in a store or something like that, I sometimes take a sip or two. When I'm in a restaurant and the waitress puts down water, I'll generally drink some of it because it's something to sip on, and I like water to a large extent. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 3:10 PMSubject: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, are you still hungry after drinking the water? If not maybe it wasn't true hunger? I'm not sure either. I know I have been using diet coke or cocoa to "mask" my hunger signals and I don't think that is a good idea for me. I need to learn how to identify those signals. I have heard that by the time you "feel" thirsty you are already dehydrated. Sandy Now that we're on the topic of thirst vs. hunger, could someone who is possibly more familiar with the thirst signals please describe them to me? OK, I know about maybe the mouth being dry, but what about stomach signals for liquid rather than food? Are they different? Right now I THINK I'm hungry because my stomach is signaling SOMETHING (not sure what because the rest of me isn't feeling hungry), but water is near by and so I had some of that. Thoughts, anyone? Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 11:54 AMSubject: Re: Feeling hunger I also read that because many food contain some % of water, what is probably thirst gets received as 'hunger'. I found that this could be something that had plagued me for a long time. Finding a way to help me increase my water drinking - without it feeling forced - was one of the challenges I faced on my IE journey. Thinking of drinking water as a way to 'fill' up (basically FOOL one's self) still drives me batty! But if I don't have water immediately available (bottles around house at work/play spots), I still don't register thirst all that well, sometimes reacting to what I think is 'hunger' signals. Hmmm, mindfullness for moisture as well as food?!? Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > > This morning I woke up and felt slight hunger, but after I had > > a big glass of water I realized I wasn't really hungry, but I > > was thirsty. Go figure! > > That's perfectly normal. The body easily confuses thirst with hunger. > > Keeping yourself hydrated throughout the day is important. > > Paddy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Hi, Sandy. This morning I wasn't sure if I was hungry after breakfast or thirsty. I decided to have a cup of coffee. That was enough and I didn't beg inside to eat more. Thanks for asking. Now that you mention it, I remember my stomach was signaling me something, wasn't sure what it was because I could not have been hungry technically speaking of course, since I had eaten a fairly nutritious breakfast. Therefore I decided it must be something else and so I had coffee. When I pass a water fountain in a store or something like that, I sometimes take a sip or two. When I'm in a restaurant and the waitress puts down water, I'll generally drink some of it because it's something to sip on, and I like water to a large extent. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 3:10 PMSubject: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, are you still hungry after drinking the water? If not maybe it wasn't true hunger? I'm not sure either. I know I have been using diet coke or cocoa to "mask" my hunger signals and I don't think that is a good idea for me. I need to learn how to identify those signals. I have heard that by the time you "feel" thirsty you are already dehydrated. Sandy Now that we're on the topic of thirst vs. hunger, could someone who is possibly more familiar with the thirst signals please describe them to me? OK, I know about maybe the mouth being dry, but what about stomach signals for liquid rather than food? Are they different? Right now I THINK I'm hungry because my stomach is signaling SOMETHING (not sure what because the rest of me isn't feeling hungry), but water is near by and so I had some of that. Thoughts, anyone? Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 11:54 AMSubject: Re: Feeling hunger I also read that because many food contain some % of water, what is probably thirst gets received as 'hunger'. I found that this could be something that had plagued me for a long time. Finding a way to help me increase my water drinking - without it feeling forced - was one of the challenges I faced on my IE journey. Thinking of drinking water as a way to 'fill' up (basically FOOL one's self) still drives me batty! But if I don't have water immediately available (bottles around house at work/play spots), I still don't register thirst all that well, sometimes reacting to what I think is 'hunger' signals. Hmmm, mindfullness for moisture as well as food?!? Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > > This morning I woke up and felt slight hunger, but after I had > > a big glass of water I realized I wasn't really hungry, but I > > was thirsty. Go figure! > > That's perfectly normal. The body easily confuses thirst with hunger. > > Keeping yourself hydrated throughout the day is important. > > Paddy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Tai, I was doing the opposite. I was drinking cocoa when I first got up until I realized that doing that made me not be able to notice my hunger. Sandy Hi, Sandy. This morning I wasn't sure if I was hungry after breakfast or thirsty. I decided to have a cup of coffee. That was enough and I didn't beg inside to eat more. Thanks for asking. Now that you mention it, I remember my stomach was signaling me something, wasn't sure what it was because I could not have been hungry technically speaking of course, since I had eaten a fairly nutritious breakfast. Therefore I decided it must be something else and so I had coffee. When I pass a water fountain in a store or something like that, I sometimes take a sip or two. When I'm in a restaurant and the waitress puts down water, I'll generally drink some of it because it's something to sip on, and I like water to a large extent. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 3:10 PMSubject: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, are you still hungry after drinking the water? If not maybe it wasn't true hunger? I'm not sure either. I know I have been using diet coke or cocoa to " mask " my hunger signals and I don't think that is a good idea for me. I need to learn how to identify those signals. I have heard that by the time you " feel " thirsty you are already dehydrated. Sandy Now that we're on the topic of thirst vs. hunger, could someone who is possibly more familiar with the thirst signals please describe them to me? OK, I know about maybe the mouth being dry, but what about stomach signals for liquid rather than food? Are they different? Right now I THINK I'm hungry because my stomach is signaling SOMETHING (not sure what because the rest of me isn't feeling hungry), but water is near by and so I had some of that. Thoughts, anyone? Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 11:54 AMSubject: Re: Feeling hunger I also read that because many food contain some % of water, what is probably thirst gets received as 'hunger'. I found that this could be something that had plagued me for a long time. Finding a way to help me increase my water drinking - without it feeling forced - was one of the challenges I faced on my IE journey. Thinking of drinking water as a way to 'fill' up (basically FOOL one's self) still drives me batty! But if I don't have water immediately available (bottles around house at work/play spots), I still don't register thirst all that well, sometimes reacting to what I think is 'hunger' signals. Hmmm, mindfullness for moisture as well as food?!? Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > > This morning I woke up and felt slight hunger, but after I had > > a big glass of water I realized I wasn't really hungry, but I > > was thirsty. Go figure! > > That's perfectly normal. The body easily confuses thirst with hunger. > > Keeping yourself hydrated throughout the day is important. > > Paddy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Tai, I was doing the opposite. I was drinking cocoa when I first got up until I realized that doing that made me not be able to notice my hunger. Sandy Hi, Sandy. This morning I wasn't sure if I was hungry after breakfast or thirsty. I decided to have a cup of coffee. That was enough and I didn't beg inside to eat more. Thanks for asking. Now that you mention it, I remember my stomach was signaling me something, wasn't sure what it was because I could not have been hungry technically speaking of course, since I had eaten a fairly nutritious breakfast. Therefore I decided it must be something else and so I had coffee. When I pass a water fountain in a store or something like that, I sometimes take a sip or two. When I'm in a restaurant and the waitress puts down water, I'll generally drink some of it because it's something to sip on, and I like water to a large extent. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 3:10 PMSubject: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, are you still hungry after drinking the water? If not maybe it wasn't true hunger? I'm not sure either. I know I have been using diet coke or cocoa to " mask " my hunger signals and I don't think that is a good idea for me. I need to learn how to identify those signals. I have heard that by the time you " feel " thirsty you are already dehydrated. Sandy Now that we're on the topic of thirst vs. hunger, could someone who is possibly more familiar with the thirst signals please describe them to me? OK, I know about maybe the mouth being dry, but what about stomach signals for liquid rather than food? Are they different? Right now I THINK I'm hungry because my stomach is signaling SOMETHING (not sure what because the rest of me isn't feeling hungry), but water is near by and so I had some of that. Thoughts, anyone? Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 11:54 AMSubject: Re: Feeling hunger I also read that because many food contain some % of water, what is probably thirst gets received as 'hunger'. I found that this could be something that had plagued me for a long time. Finding a way to help me increase my water drinking - without it feeling forced - was one of the challenges I faced on my IE journey. Thinking of drinking water as a way to 'fill' up (basically FOOL one's self) still drives me batty! But if I don't have water immediately available (bottles around house at work/play spots), I still don't register thirst all that well, sometimes reacting to what I think is 'hunger' signals. Hmmm, mindfullness for moisture as well as food?!? Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > > This morning I woke up and felt slight hunger, but after I had > > a big glass of water I realized I wasn't really hungry, but I > > was thirsty. Go figure! > > That's perfectly normal. The body easily confuses thirst with hunger. > > Keeping yourself hydrated throughout the day is important. > > Paddy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Tai, I was doing the opposite. I was drinking cocoa when I first got up until I realized that doing that made me not be able to notice my hunger. Sandy Hi, Sandy. This morning I wasn't sure if I was hungry after breakfast or thirsty. I decided to have a cup of coffee. That was enough and I didn't beg inside to eat more. Thanks for asking. Now that you mention it, I remember my stomach was signaling me something, wasn't sure what it was because I could not have been hungry technically speaking of course, since I had eaten a fairly nutritious breakfast. Therefore I decided it must be something else and so I had coffee. When I pass a water fountain in a store or something like that, I sometimes take a sip or two. When I'm in a restaurant and the waitress puts down water, I'll generally drink some of it because it's something to sip on, and I like water to a large extent. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 3:10 PMSubject: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, are you still hungry after drinking the water? If not maybe it wasn't true hunger? I'm not sure either. I know I have been using diet coke or cocoa to " mask " my hunger signals and I don't think that is a good idea for me. I need to learn how to identify those signals. I have heard that by the time you " feel " thirsty you are already dehydrated. Sandy Now that we're on the topic of thirst vs. hunger, could someone who is possibly more familiar with the thirst signals please describe them to me? OK, I know about maybe the mouth being dry, but what about stomach signals for liquid rather than food? Are they different? Right now I THINK I'm hungry because my stomach is signaling SOMETHING (not sure what because the rest of me isn't feeling hungry), but water is near by and so I had some of that. Thoughts, anyone? Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 11:54 AMSubject: Re: Feeling hunger I also read that because many food contain some % of water, what is probably thirst gets received as 'hunger'. I found that this could be something that had plagued me for a long time. Finding a way to help me increase my water drinking - without it feeling forced - was one of the challenges I faced on my IE journey. Thinking of drinking water as a way to 'fill' up (basically FOOL one's self) still drives me batty! But if I don't have water immediately available (bottles around house at work/play spots), I still don't register thirst all that well, sometimes reacting to what I think is 'hunger' signals. Hmmm, mindfullness for moisture as well as food?!? Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > > This morning I woke up and felt slight hunger, but after I had > > a big glass of water I realized I wasn't really hungry, but I > > was thirsty. Go figure! > > That's perfectly normal. The body easily confuses thirst with hunger. > > Keeping yourself hydrated throughout the day is important. > > Paddy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 I notice after drinking soda, my bladder usually argues with me. I've been drinking diet sodas for years, but now I rarely drink soda with caffeine in it. But I do love non-caffeinated diet coke or pepsi. Years ago I tried Minute Maid Diet Lemonade drink, and I loved it, but about 4 minutes after drinking it I'd have to RUSH to the bathroom and so I avoid that like the plague because I know what will happen. Something they put in it. But I agree with you, diet sodas are probably not my bladder's friend. When I came home today, I ran for a non-caffeinated diet pepsi which I just bought on sale, and it didn't taste that great but I had it anyway because I will not drink sugar sodas, or substitutes like the health junk they put out there, I'm probably stuck on the non-caffeinated diet sodas. If they stopped making that, I'd go through withdrawal. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:17 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, When I drink too much soda, I forget to drink water and then my bladder complains. Sandy Katcha, I have read things about water and electrolytes. Too much water is dangerous, that's true. But how much is too much? I keep a few bottles of water near me but I'm not constantly drinking. The reason I started drinking more water is when I developed bladder infections and realized I must drink more water because I wouldn't drink that much. If I had known this as a kid, maybe I wouldn't have had so many bladder infections and bouts with stones. No, I do not think that a normal amount whatever that is, will wash out electrolytes from the body. When we were traveling I noticed that some areas have tastier water than others. I didn't want the water that didn't taste good. I use filters now and I like them, but our normal water supply isn't bad. Cool water I find to be more refreshing than lukewarm water. I also like seltzer water sometimes. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:43 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Katcha, thanks for that info on the salt, although I do eat probably too much salt. I too find my mouth feels dry and was blaming it on maybe the plastic bottles(trying thermos), but also wonder if because I drink/sip it all the time maybe I have interfered with my body's ability to make saliva. When I have diet soda, especially with caffeine like when we go out, my mouth feels like it is "burning". That's one reason I don't drink it at home. Sandy Tai, my struggles with water run deep. First I'm not all that fond of plain water. Like you, a slice or dash of lemon goes a long way towards making it 'tasty'. Secondly my thirst signals must have been 'disowned' for even longer than my hunger signs as I still never really feel 'thirsty', only dry. About the only way I have been able to keep better hydrated is to have several small water bottles filled and at places around that house that I hang out at (computer!). That has helped me to drink water when I otherwise wouldn't even think about it. Another 'odd' thing that I find when I drink water is that I can get drier! When my mouth is dry but bladder is overflowing what I need is salt. I do not eat hardly any 'processed' food (scratch cook) and tend to be lighter on salt when cooking since one can always add it. When I get drier after drinking water, having the merest bit of salt helps my body go 'ahhh!' like dry ground does to rain. I think its possible that my drinking too much plain water actually flushes excessive electrolytes?!? So water drinking has become an 'art form' for me ;-) Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Katcha, when I go to a restaurant I always order water with lemon with my meal. Anyway, it's cheaper than soda or something like that. And the water just looks so good and it's so cool that I love to drink it, usually! Sometimes I don't drink as much as I would like because I know I'm paying for the meal, not the water, and I don't want to fill up. But if you're waiting for your nose & throat to be dry, you're waiting too long. Hint: that's how kidney stones, etc., are formed when we don't drink enough wa-wa. Also, I put a Brita personal bottle in the refrigerator so I can take it to the computer and TV with me when I'm sittin' around. Now that we're talking about it, I think I'm going to get some water next trip. With love, Tai > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Tai, I think I am addicted to the carbonation more than anything. Sandy I notice after drinking soda, my bladder usually argues with me. I've been drinking diet sodas for years, but now I rarely drink soda with caffeine in it. But I do love non-caffeinated diet coke or pepsi. Years ago I tried Minute Maid Diet Lemonade drink, and I loved it, but about 4 minutes after drinking it I'd have to RUSH to the bathroom and so I avoid that like the plague because I know what will happen. Something they put in it. But I agree with you, diet sodas are probably not my bladder's friend. When I came home today, I ran for a non-caffeinated diet pepsi which I just bought on sale, and it didn't taste that great but I had it anyway because I will not drink sugar sodas, or substitutes like the health junk they put out there, I'm probably stuck on the non-caffeinated diet sodas. If they stopped making that, I'd go through withdrawal. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:17 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, When I drink too much soda, I forget to drink water and then my bladder complains. Sandy Katcha, I have read things about water and electrolytes. Too much water is dangerous, that's true. But how much is too much? I keep a few bottles of water near me but I'm not constantly drinking. The reason I started drinking more water is when I developed bladder infections and realized I must drink more water because I wouldn't drink that much. If I had known this as a kid, maybe I wouldn't have had so many bladder infections and bouts with stones. No, I do not think that a normal amount whatever that is, will wash out electrolytes from the body. When we were traveling I noticed that some areas have tastier water than others. I didn't want the water that didn't taste good. I use filters now and I like them, but our normal water supply isn't bad. Cool water I find to be more refreshing than lukewarm water. I also like seltzer water sometimes. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:43 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Katcha, thanks for that info on the salt, although I do eat probably too much salt. I too find my mouth feels dry and was blaming it on maybe the plastic bottles(trying thermos), but also wonder if because I drink/sip it all the time maybe I have interfered with my body's ability to make saliva. When I have diet soda, especially with caffeine like when we go out, my mouth feels like it is " burning " . That's one reason I don't drink it at home. Sandy Tai, my struggles with water run deep. First I'm not all that fond of plain water. Like you, a slice or dash of lemon goes a long way towards making it 'tasty'. Secondly my thirst signals must have been 'disowned' for even longer than my hunger signs as I still never really feel 'thirsty', only dry. About the only way I have been able to keep better hydrated is to have several small water bottles filled and at places around that house that I hang out at (computer!). That has helped me to drink water when I otherwise wouldn't even think about it. Another 'odd' thing that I find when I drink water is that I can get drier! When my mouth is dry but bladder is overflowing what I need is salt. I do not eat hardly any 'processed' food (scratch cook) and tend to be lighter on salt when cooking since one can always add it. When I get drier after drinking water, having the merest bit of salt helps my body go 'ahhh!' like dry ground does to rain. I think its possible that my drinking too much plain water actually flushes excessive electrolytes?!? So water drinking has become an 'art form' for me ;-) Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Katcha, when I go to a restaurant I always order water with lemon with my meal. Anyway, it's cheaper than soda or something like that. And the water just looks so good and it's so cool that I love to drink it, usually! Sometimes I don't drink as much as I would like because I know I'm paying for the meal, not the water, and I don't want to fill up. But if you're waiting for your nose & throat to be dry, you're waiting too long. Hint: that's how kidney stones, etc., are formed when we don't drink enough wa-wa. Also, I put a Brita personal bottle in the refrigerator so I can take it to the computer and TV with me when I'm sittin' around. Now that we're talking about it, I think I'm going to get some water next trip. With love, Tai > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Tai, I think I am addicted to the carbonation more than anything. Sandy I notice after drinking soda, my bladder usually argues with me. I've been drinking diet sodas for years, but now I rarely drink soda with caffeine in it. But I do love non-caffeinated diet coke or pepsi. Years ago I tried Minute Maid Diet Lemonade drink, and I loved it, but about 4 minutes after drinking it I'd have to RUSH to the bathroom and so I avoid that like the plague because I know what will happen. Something they put in it. But I agree with you, diet sodas are probably not my bladder's friend. When I came home today, I ran for a non-caffeinated diet pepsi which I just bought on sale, and it didn't taste that great but I had it anyway because I will not drink sugar sodas, or substitutes like the health junk they put out there, I'm probably stuck on the non-caffeinated diet sodas. If they stopped making that, I'd go through withdrawal. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:17 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, When I drink too much soda, I forget to drink water and then my bladder complains. Sandy Katcha, I have read things about water and electrolytes. Too much water is dangerous, that's true. But how much is too much? I keep a few bottles of water near me but I'm not constantly drinking. The reason I started drinking more water is when I developed bladder infections and realized I must drink more water because I wouldn't drink that much. If I had known this as a kid, maybe I wouldn't have had so many bladder infections and bouts with stones. No, I do not think that a normal amount whatever that is, will wash out electrolytes from the body. When we were traveling I noticed that some areas have tastier water than others. I didn't want the water that didn't taste good. I use filters now and I like them, but our normal water supply isn't bad. Cool water I find to be more refreshing than lukewarm water. I also like seltzer water sometimes. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:43 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Katcha, thanks for that info on the salt, although I do eat probably too much salt. I too find my mouth feels dry and was blaming it on maybe the plastic bottles(trying thermos), but also wonder if because I drink/sip it all the time maybe I have interfered with my body's ability to make saliva. When I have diet soda, especially with caffeine like when we go out, my mouth feels like it is " burning " . That's one reason I don't drink it at home. Sandy Tai, my struggles with water run deep. First I'm not all that fond of plain water. Like you, a slice or dash of lemon goes a long way towards making it 'tasty'. Secondly my thirst signals must have been 'disowned' for even longer than my hunger signs as I still never really feel 'thirsty', only dry. About the only way I have been able to keep better hydrated is to have several small water bottles filled and at places around that house that I hang out at (computer!). That has helped me to drink water when I otherwise wouldn't even think about it. Another 'odd' thing that I find when I drink water is that I can get drier! When my mouth is dry but bladder is overflowing what I need is salt. I do not eat hardly any 'processed' food (scratch cook) and tend to be lighter on salt when cooking since one can always add it. When I get drier after drinking water, having the merest bit of salt helps my body go 'ahhh!' like dry ground does to rain. I think its possible that my drinking too much plain water actually flushes excessive electrolytes?!? So water drinking has become an 'art form' for me ;-) Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Katcha, when I go to a restaurant I always order water with lemon with my meal. Anyway, it's cheaper than soda or something like that. And the water just looks so good and it's so cool that I love to drink it, usually! Sometimes I don't drink as much as I would like because I know I'm paying for the meal, not the water, and I don't want to fill up. But if you're waiting for your nose & throat to be dry, you're waiting too long. Hint: that's how kidney stones, etc., are formed when we don't drink enough wa-wa. Also, I put a Brita personal bottle in the refrigerator so I can take it to the computer and TV with me when I'm sittin' around. Now that we're talking about it, I think I'm going to get some water next trip. With love, Tai > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Tai, I think I am addicted to the carbonation more than anything. Sandy I notice after drinking soda, my bladder usually argues with me. I've been drinking diet sodas for years, but now I rarely drink soda with caffeine in it. But I do love non-caffeinated diet coke or pepsi. Years ago I tried Minute Maid Diet Lemonade drink, and I loved it, but about 4 minutes after drinking it I'd have to RUSH to the bathroom and so I avoid that like the plague because I know what will happen. Something they put in it. But I agree with you, diet sodas are probably not my bladder's friend. When I came home today, I ran for a non-caffeinated diet pepsi which I just bought on sale, and it didn't taste that great but I had it anyway because I will not drink sugar sodas, or substitutes like the health junk they put out there, I'm probably stuck on the non-caffeinated diet sodas. If they stopped making that, I'd go through withdrawal. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:17 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, When I drink too much soda, I forget to drink water and then my bladder complains. Sandy Katcha, I have read things about water and electrolytes. Too much water is dangerous, that's true. But how much is too much? I keep a few bottles of water near me but I'm not constantly drinking. The reason I started drinking more water is when I developed bladder infections and realized I must drink more water because I wouldn't drink that much. If I had known this as a kid, maybe I wouldn't have had so many bladder infections and bouts with stones. No, I do not think that a normal amount whatever that is, will wash out electrolytes from the body. When we were traveling I noticed that some areas have tastier water than others. I didn't want the water that didn't taste good. I use filters now and I like them, but our normal water supply isn't bad. Cool water I find to be more refreshing than lukewarm water. I also like seltzer water sometimes. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:43 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Katcha, thanks for that info on the salt, although I do eat probably too much salt. I too find my mouth feels dry and was blaming it on maybe the plastic bottles(trying thermos), but also wonder if because I drink/sip it all the time maybe I have interfered with my body's ability to make saliva. When I have diet soda, especially with caffeine like when we go out, my mouth feels like it is " burning " . That's one reason I don't drink it at home. Sandy Tai, my struggles with water run deep. First I'm not all that fond of plain water. Like you, a slice or dash of lemon goes a long way towards making it 'tasty'. Secondly my thirst signals must have been 'disowned' for even longer than my hunger signs as I still never really feel 'thirsty', only dry. About the only way I have been able to keep better hydrated is to have several small water bottles filled and at places around that house that I hang out at (computer!). That has helped me to drink water when I otherwise wouldn't even think about it. Another 'odd' thing that I find when I drink water is that I can get drier! When my mouth is dry but bladder is overflowing what I need is salt. I do not eat hardly any 'processed' food (scratch cook) and tend to be lighter on salt when cooking since one can always add it. When I get drier after drinking water, having the merest bit of salt helps my body go 'ahhh!' like dry ground does to rain. I think its possible that my drinking too much plain water actually flushes excessive electrolytes?!? So water drinking has become an 'art form' for me ;-) Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Katcha, when I go to a restaurant I always order water with lemon with my meal. Anyway, it's cheaper than soda or something like that. And the water just looks so good and it's so cool that I love to drink it, usually! Sometimes I don't drink as much as I would like because I know I'm paying for the meal, not the water, and I don't want to fill up. But if you're waiting for your nose & throat to be dry, you're waiting too long. Hint: that's how kidney stones, etc., are formed when we don't drink enough wa-wa. Also, I put a Brita personal bottle in the refrigerator so I can take it to the computer and TV with me when I'm sittin' around. Now that we're talking about it, I think I'm going to get some water next trip. With love, Tai > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Well, I do enjoy seltzer sometimes, Sandy. Someone told me it's not good for me because of the phosphorous, or something like that, but hey, I'm still eating hamburgers (not often though), I'm not gonna stop with seltzer or diet sodas, lol. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:36 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, I think I am addicted to the carbonation more than anything. Sandy I notice after drinking soda, my bladder usually argues with me. I've been drinking diet sodas for years, but now I rarely drink soda with caffeine in it. But I do love non-caffeinated diet coke or pepsi. Years ago I tried Minute Maid Diet Lemonade drink, and I loved it, but about 4 minutes after drinking it I'd have to RUSH to the bathroom and so I avoid that like the plague because I know what will happen. Something they put in it. But I agree with you, diet sodas are probably not my bladder's friend. When I came home today, I ran for a non-caffeinated diet pepsi which I just bought on sale, and it didn't taste that great but I had it anyway because I will not drink sugar sodas, or substitutes like the health junk they put out there, I'm probably stuck on the non-caffeinated diet sodas. If they stopped making that, I'd go through withdrawal. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:17 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, When I drink too much soda, I forget to drink water and then my bladder complains. Sandy Katcha, I have read things about water and electrolytes. Too much water is dangerous, that's true. But how much is too much? I keep a few bottles of water near me but I'm not constantly drinking. The reason I started drinking more water is when I developed bladder infections and realized I must drink more water because I wouldn't drink that much. If I had known this as a kid, maybe I wouldn't have had so many bladder infections and bouts with stones. No, I do not think that a normal amount whatever that is, will wash out electrolytes from the body. When we were traveling I noticed that some areas have tastier water than others. I didn't want the water that didn't taste good. I use filters now and I like them, but our normal water supply isn't bad. Cool water I find to be more refreshing than lukewarm water. I also like seltzer water sometimes. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:43 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Katcha, thanks for that info on the salt, although I do eat probably too much salt. I too find my mouth feels dry and was blaming it on maybe the plastic bottles(trying thermos), but also wonder if because I drink/sip it all the time maybe I have interfered with my body's ability to make saliva. When I have diet soda, especially with caffeine like when we go out, my mouth feels like it is "burning". That's one reason I don't drink it at home. Sandy Tai, my struggles with water run deep. First I'm not all that fond of plain water. Like you, a slice or dash of lemon goes a long way towards making it 'tasty'. Secondly my thirst signals must have been 'disowned' for even longer than my hunger signs as I still never really feel 'thirsty', only dry. About the only way I have been able to keep better hydrated is to have several small water bottles filled and at places around that house that I hang out at (computer!). That has helped me to drink water when I otherwise wouldn't even think about it. Another 'odd' thing that I find when I drink water is that I can get drier! When my mouth is dry but bladder is overflowing what I need is salt. I do not eat hardly any 'processed' food (scratch cook) and tend to be lighter on salt when cooking since one can always add it. When I get drier after drinking water, having the merest bit of salt helps my body go 'ahhh!' like dry ground does to rain. I think its possible that my drinking too much plain water actually flushes excessive electrolytes?!? So water drinking has become an 'art form' for me ;-) Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Katcha, when I go to a restaurant I always order water with lemon with my meal. Anyway, it's cheaper than soda or something like that. And the water just looks so good and it's so cool that I love to drink it, usually! Sometimes I don't drink as much as I would like because I know I'm paying for the meal, not the water, and I don't want to fill up. But if you're waiting for your nose & throat to be dry, you're waiting too long. Hint: that's how kidney stones, etc., are formed when we don't drink enough wa-wa. Also, I put a Brita personal bottle in the refrigerator so I can take it to the computer and TV with me when I'm sittin' around. Now that we're talking about it, I think I'm going to get some water next trip. With love, Tai > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Oh. I always have coffee first when I wake up, or even a few sips of water. I read it helps to get the digestion going and I believe it. Now when I drink my coffee, though, if I'm not "hungry," I wait until I AM hungry. Sometimes it takes a while, but I can sit and enjoy my coffee and read, play with the computer, etc. until I'm ready to have breakfast, Sandy. I usually start after that with some fresh fruit and then have the main business for breakfast. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:32 PMSubject: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, I was doing the opposite. I was drinking cocoa when I first got up until I realized that doing that made me not be able to notice my hunger. Sandy Hi, Sandy. This morning I wasn't sure if I was hungry after breakfast or thirsty. I decided to have a cup of coffee. That was enough and I didn't beg inside to eat more. Thanks for asking. Now that you mention it, I remember my stomach was signaling me something, wasn't sure what it was because I could not have been hungry technically speaking of course, since I had eaten a fairly nutritious breakfast. Therefore I decided it must be something else and so I had coffee. When I pass a water fountain in a store or something like that, I sometimes take a sip or two. When I'm in a restaurant and the waitress puts down water, I'll generally drink some of it because it's something to sip on, and I like water to a large extent. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 3:10 PMSubject: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, are you still hungry after drinking the water? If not maybe it wasn't true hunger? I'm not sure either. I know I have been using diet coke or cocoa to "mask" my hunger signals and I don't think that is a good idea for me. I need to learn how to identify those signals. I have heard that by the time you "feel" thirsty you are already dehydrated. Sandy Now that we're on the topic of thirst vs. hunger, could someone who is possibly more familiar with the thirst signals please describe them to me? OK, I know about maybe the mouth being dry, but what about stomach signals for liquid rather than food? Are they different? Right now I THINK I'm hungry because my stomach is signaling SOMETHING (not sure what because the rest of me isn't feeling hungry), but water is near by and so I had some of that. Thoughts, anyone? Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 11:54 AMSubject: Re: Feeling hunger I also read that because many food contain some % of water, what is probably thirst gets received as 'hunger'. I found that this could be something that had plagued me for a long time. Finding a way to help me increase my water drinking - without it feeling forced - was one of the challenges I faced on my IE journey. Thinking of drinking water as a way to 'fill' up (basically FOOL one's self) still drives me batty! But if I don't have water immediately available (bottles around house at work/play spots), I still don't register thirst all that well, sometimes reacting to what I think is 'hunger' signals. Hmmm, mindfullness for moisture as well as food?!? Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > > This morning I woke up and felt slight hunger, but after I had > > a big glass of water I realized I wasn't really hungry, but I > > was thirsty. Go figure! > > That's perfectly normal. The body easily confuses thirst with hunger. > > Keeping yourself hydrated throughout the day is important. > > Paddy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Tai, I get this product at Publix stores called Syfo naturally flavored sparkling water. It contains no sodium calories or sugar. Not sure about the phosphorus. It's not mentioned anywhere on the bottle. I see it is distributed from Leesburg, Florida so maybe it's a local thing. I like the tangerine flavored but they also have lemon/lime and I think cherry? Sandy Well, I do enjoy seltzer sometimes, Sandy. Someone told me it's not good for me because of the phosphorous, or something like that, but hey, I'm still eating hamburgers (not often though), I'm not gonna stop with seltzer or diet sodas, lol. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:36 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, I think I am addicted to the carbonation more than anything. Sandy I notice after drinking soda, my bladder usually argues with me. I've been drinking diet sodas for years, but now I rarely drink soda with caffeine in it. But I do love non-caffeinated diet coke or pepsi. Years ago I tried Minute Maid Diet Lemonade drink, and I loved it, but about 4 minutes after drinking it I'd have to RUSH to the bathroom and so I avoid that like the plague because I know what will happen. Something they put in it. But I agree with you, diet sodas are probably not my bladder's friend. When I came home today, I ran for a non-caffeinated diet pepsi which I just bought on sale, and it didn't taste that great but I had it anyway because I will not drink sugar sodas, or substitutes like the health junk they put out there, I'm probably stuck on the non-caffeinated diet sodas. If they stopped making that, I'd go through withdrawal. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:17 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, When I drink too much soda, I forget to drink water and then my bladder complains. Sandy Katcha, I have read things about water and electrolytes. Too much water is dangerous, that's true. But how much is too much? I keep a few bottles of water near me but I'm not constantly drinking. The reason I started drinking more water is when I developed bladder infections and realized I must drink more water because I wouldn't drink that much. If I had known this as a kid, maybe I wouldn't have had so many bladder infections and bouts with stones. No, I do not think that a normal amount whatever that is, will wash out electrolytes from the body. When we were traveling I noticed that some areas have tastier water than others. I didn't want the water that didn't taste good. I use filters now and I like them, but our normal water supply isn't bad. Cool water I find to be more refreshing than lukewarm water. I also like seltzer water sometimes. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:43 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Katcha, thanks for that info on the salt, although I do eat probably too much salt. I too find my mouth feels dry and was blaming it on maybe the plastic bottles(trying thermos), but also wonder if because I drink/sip it all the time maybe I have interfered with my body's ability to make saliva. When I have diet soda, especially with caffeine like when we go out, my mouth feels like it is " burning " . That's one reason I don't drink it at home. Sandy Tai, my struggles with water run deep. First I'm not all that fond of plain water. Like you, a slice or dash of lemon goes a long way towards making it 'tasty'. Secondly my thirst signals must have been 'disowned' for even longer than my hunger signs as I still never really feel 'thirsty', only dry. About the only way I have been able to keep better hydrated is to have several small water bottles filled and at places around that house that I hang out at (computer!). That has helped me to drink water when I otherwise wouldn't even think about it. Another 'odd' thing that I find when I drink water is that I can get drier! When my mouth is dry but bladder is overflowing what I need is salt. I do not eat hardly any 'processed' food (scratch cook) and tend to be lighter on salt when cooking since one can always add it. When I get drier after drinking water, having the merest bit of salt helps my body go 'ahhh!' like dry ground does to rain. I think its possible that my drinking too much plain water actually flushes excessive electrolytes?!? So water drinking has become an 'art form' for me ;-) Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Katcha, when I go to a restaurant I always order water with lemon with my meal. Anyway, it's cheaper than soda or something like that. And the water just looks so good and it's so cool that I love to drink it, usually! Sometimes I don't drink as much as I would like because I know I'm paying for the meal, not the water, and I don't want to fill up. But if you're waiting for your nose & throat to be dry, you're waiting too long. Hint: that's how kidney stones, etc., are formed when we don't drink enough wa-wa. Also, I put a Brita personal bottle in the refrigerator so I can take it to the computer and TV with me when I'm sittin' around. Now that we're talking about it, I think I'm going to get some water next trip. With love, Tai > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Tai, I think it was the milk in the cocoa that was dulling my appetite so now I have it with or after my meal. Sandy Oh. I always have coffee first when I wake up, or even a few sips of water. I read it helps to get the digestion going and I believe it. Now when I drink my coffee, though, if I'm not " hungry, " I wait until I AM hungry. Sometimes it takes a while, but I can sit and enjoy my coffee and read, play with the computer, etc. until I'm ready to have breakfast, Sandy. I usually start after that with some fresh fruit and then have the main business for breakfast. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:32 PMSubject: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, I was doing the opposite. I was drinking cocoa when I first got up until I realized that doing that made me not be able to notice my hunger. Sandy Hi, Sandy. This morning I wasn't sure if I was hungry after breakfast or thirsty. I decided to have a cup of coffee. That was enough and I didn't beg inside to eat more. Thanks for asking. Now that you mention it, I remember my stomach was signaling me something, wasn't sure what it was because I could not have been hungry technically speaking of course, since I had eaten a fairly nutritious breakfast. Therefore I decided it must be something else and so I had coffee. When I pass a water fountain in a store or something like that, I sometimes take a sip or two. When I'm in a restaurant and the waitress puts down water, I'll generally drink some of it because it's something to sip on, and I like water to a large extent. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 3:10 PMSubject: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, are you still hungry after drinking the water? If not maybe it wasn't true hunger? I'm not sure either. I know I have been using diet coke or cocoa to " mask " my hunger signals and I don't think that is a good idea for me. I need to learn how to identify those signals. I have heard that by the time you " feel " thirsty you are already dehydrated. Sandy Now that we're on the topic of thirst vs. hunger, could someone who is possibly more familiar with the thirst signals please describe them to me? OK, I know about maybe the mouth being dry, but what about stomach signals for liquid rather than food? Are they different? Right now I THINK I'm hungry because my stomach is signaling SOMETHING (not sure what because the rest of me isn't feeling hungry), but water is near by and so I had some of that. Thoughts, anyone? Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 11:54 AMSubject: Re: Feeling hunger I also read that because many food contain some % of water, what is probably thirst gets received as 'hunger'. I found that this could be something that had plagued me for a long time. Finding a way to help me increase my water drinking - without it feeling forced - was one of the challenges I faced on my IE journey. Thinking of drinking water as a way to 'fill' up (basically FOOL one's self) still drives me batty! But if I don't have water immediately available (bottles around house at work/play spots), I still don't register thirst all that well, sometimes reacting to what I think is 'hunger' signals. Hmmm, mindfullness for moisture as well as food?!? Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > > This morning I woke up and felt slight hunger, but after I had > > a big glass of water I realized I wasn't really hungry, but I > > was thirsty. Go figure! > > That's perfectly normal. The body easily confuses thirst with hunger. > > Keeping yourself hydrated throughout the day is important. > > Paddy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Oh Sandy, You're fortunate to be okay! You really took a chance drinking some sips of water out of your hand. If they'd known, they would have had to delay the surgery. The problem is that water can be vomited into your lungs under anesthesia and drown you. It's extremely dangerous. I can sympathize though, as thirst is a much more painful sensation than hunger. And to think, it's so easy to mistake them. And I'm guessing a lot of overeaters don't drink enough. Jane > > > > > > Now that we're on the topic of thirst vs. hunger, could someone who is > > possibly more familiar with the thirst signals please describe them to me? > > OK, I know about maybe the mouth being dry, but what about stomach signals > > for liquid rather than food? Are they different? Right now I THINK I'm > > hungry because my stomach is signaling SOMETHING (not sure what because the > > rest of me isn't feeling hungry), but water is near by and so I had some of > > that. Thoughts, anyone? Tai > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Jane, I know it could be aspirated but I wasn't " put under " . I had a local and something to relax me with a little pain med. I was awake all the time and surrounded by nurses. The procedure took about 2 minutes for real and I was back to recovery where they gave me water and coke. But thank you for the info and concern. Sandy Oh Sandy, You're fortunate to be okay! You really took a chance drinking some sips of water out of your hand. If they'd known, they would have had to delay the surgery. The problem is that water can be vomited into your lungs under anesthesia and drown you. It's extremely dangerous. I can sympathize though, as thirst is a much more painful sensation than hunger. And to think, it's so easy to mistake them. And I'm guessing a lot of overeaters don't drink enough. Jane > > > > > > Now that we're on the topic of thirst vs. hunger, could someone who is > > possibly more familiar with the thirst signals please describe them to me? > > OK, I know about maybe the mouth being dry, but what about stomach signals > > for liquid rather than food? Are they different? Right now I THINK I'm > > hungry because my stomach is signaling SOMETHING (not sure what because the > > rest of me isn't feeling hungry), but water is near by and so I had some of > > that. Thoughts, anyone? Tai > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 I'm lookin' at Syfo now on the windowsill by my chair, Sandy, Lemon Lime flavor. :-) Tai (time for me to start pulling up stakes and getting into the bed.)To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:52 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, I get this product at Publix stores called Syfo naturally flavored sparkling water. It contains no sodium calories or sugar. Not sure about the phosphorus. It's not mentioned anywhere on the bottle. I see it is distributed from Leesburg, Florida so maybe it's a local thing. I like the tangerine flavored but they also have lemon/lime and I think cherry? Sandy Well, I do enjoy seltzer sometimes, Sandy. Someone told me it's not good for me because of the phosphorous, or something like that, but hey, I'm still eating hamburgers (not often though), I'm not gonna stop with seltzer or diet sodas, lol. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:36 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, I think I am addicted to the carbonation more than anything. Sandy I notice after drinking soda, my bladder usually argues with me. I've been drinking diet sodas for years, but now I rarely drink soda with caffeine in it. But I do love non-caffeinated diet coke or pepsi. Years ago I tried Minute Maid Diet Lemonade drink, and I loved it, but about 4 minutes after drinking it I'd have to RUSH to the bathroom and so I avoid that like the plague because I know what will happen. Something they put in it. But I agree with you, diet sodas are probably not my bladder's friend. When I came home today, I ran for a non-caffeinated diet pepsi which I just bought on sale, and it didn't taste that great but I had it anyway because I will not drink sugar sodas, or substitutes like the health junk they put out there, I'm probably stuck on the non-caffeinated diet sodas. If they stopped making that, I'd go through withdrawal. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:17 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, When I drink too much soda, I forget to drink water and then my bladder complains. Sandy Katcha, I have read things about water and electrolytes. Too much water is dangerous, that's true. But how much is too much? I keep a few bottles of water near me but I'm not constantly drinking. The reason I started drinking more water is when I developed bladder infections and realized I must drink more water because I wouldn't drink that much. If I had known this as a kid, maybe I wouldn't have had so many bladder infections and bouts with stones. No, I do not think that a normal amount whatever that is, will wash out electrolytes from the body. When we were traveling I noticed that some areas have tastier water than others. I didn't want the water that didn't taste good. I use filters now and I like them, but our normal water supply isn't bad. Cool water I find to be more refreshing than lukewarm water. I also like seltzer water sometimes. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:43 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Katcha, thanks for that info on the salt, although I do eat probably too much salt. I too find my mouth feels dry and was blaming it on maybe the plastic bottles(trying thermos), but also wonder if because I drink/sip it all the time maybe I have interfered with my body's ability to make saliva. When I have diet soda, especially with caffeine like when we go out, my mouth feels like it is "burning". That's one reason I don't drink it at home. Sandy Tai, my struggles with water run deep. First I'm not all that fond of plain water. Like you, a slice or dash of lemon goes a long way towards making it 'tasty'. Secondly my thirst signals must have been 'disowned' for even longer than my hunger signs as I still never really feel 'thirsty', only dry. About the only way I have been able to keep better hydrated is to have several small water bottles filled and at places around that house that I hang out at (computer!). That has helped me to drink water when I otherwise wouldn't even think about it. Another 'odd' thing that I find when I drink water is that I can get drier! When my mouth is dry but bladder is overflowing what I need is salt. I do not eat hardly any 'processed' food (scratch cook) and tend to be lighter on salt when cooking since one can always add it. When I get drier after drinking water, having the merest bit of salt helps my body go 'ahhh!' like dry ground does to rain. I think its possible that my drinking too much plain water actually flushes excessive electrolytes?!? So water drinking has become an 'art form' for me ;-) Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Katcha, when I go to a restaurant I always order water with lemon with my meal. Anyway, it's cheaper than soda or something like that. And the water just looks so good and it's so cool that I love to drink it, usually! Sometimes I don't drink as much as I would like because I know I'm paying for the meal, not the water, and I don't want to fill up. But if you're waiting for your nose & throat to be dry, you're waiting too long. Hint: that's how kidney stones, etc., are formed when we don't drink enough wa-wa. Also, I put a Brita personal bottle in the refrigerator so I can take it to the computer and TV with me when I'm sittin' around. Now that we're talking about it, I think I'm going to get some water next trip. With love, Tai > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 I'm lookin' at Syfo now on the windowsill by my chair, Sandy, Lemon Lime flavor. :-) Tai (time for me to start pulling up stakes and getting into the bed.)To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:52 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, I get this product at Publix stores called Syfo naturally flavored sparkling water. It contains no sodium calories or sugar. Not sure about the phosphorus. It's not mentioned anywhere on the bottle. I see it is distributed from Leesburg, Florida so maybe it's a local thing. I like the tangerine flavored but they also have lemon/lime and I think cherry? Sandy Well, I do enjoy seltzer sometimes, Sandy. Someone told me it's not good for me because of the phosphorous, or something like that, but hey, I'm still eating hamburgers (not often though), I'm not gonna stop with seltzer or diet sodas, lol. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:36 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, I think I am addicted to the carbonation more than anything. Sandy I notice after drinking soda, my bladder usually argues with me. I've been drinking diet sodas for years, but now I rarely drink soda with caffeine in it. But I do love non-caffeinated diet coke or pepsi. Years ago I tried Minute Maid Diet Lemonade drink, and I loved it, but about 4 minutes after drinking it I'd have to RUSH to the bathroom and so I avoid that like the plague because I know what will happen. Something they put in it. But I agree with you, diet sodas are probably not my bladder's friend. When I came home today, I ran for a non-caffeinated diet pepsi which I just bought on sale, and it didn't taste that great but I had it anyway because I will not drink sugar sodas, or substitutes like the health junk they put out there, I'm probably stuck on the non-caffeinated diet sodas. If they stopped making that, I'd go through withdrawal. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:17 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, When I drink too much soda, I forget to drink water and then my bladder complains. Sandy Katcha, I have read things about water and electrolytes. Too much water is dangerous, that's true. But how much is too much? I keep a few bottles of water near me but I'm not constantly drinking. The reason I started drinking more water is when I developed bladder infections and realized I must drink more water because I wouldn't drink that much. If I had known this as a kid, maybe I wouldn't have had so many bladder infections and bouts with stones. No, I do not think that a normal amount whatever that is, will wash out electrolytes from the body. When we were traveling I noticed that some areas have tastier water than others. I didn't want the water that didn't taste good. I use filters now and I like them, but our normal water supply isn't bad. Cool water I find to be more refreshing than lukewarm water. I also like seltzer water sometimes. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:43 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Katcha, thanks for that info on the salt, although I do eat probably too much salt. I too find my mouth feels dry and was blaming it on maybe the plastic bottles(trying thermos), but also wonder if because I drink/sip it all the time maybe I have interfered with my body's ability to make saliva. When I have diet soda, especially with caffeine like when we go out, my mouth feels like it is "burning". That's one reason I don't drink it at home. Sandy Tai, my struggles with water run deep. First I'm not all that fond of plain water. Like you, a slice or dash of lemon goes a long way towards making it 'tasty'. Secondly my thirst signals must have been 'disowned' for even longer than my hunger signs as I still never really feel 'thirsty', only dry. About the only way I have been able to keep better hydrated is to have several small water bottles filled and at places around that house that I hang out at (computer!). That has helped me to drink water when I otherwise wouldn't even think about it. Another 'odd' thing that I find when I drink water is that I can get drier! When my mouth is dry but bladder is overflowing what I need is salt. I do not eat hardly any 'processed' food (scratch cook) and tend to be lighter on salt when cooking since one can always add it. When I get drier after drinking water, having the merest bit of salt helps my body go 'ahhh!' like dry ground does to rain. I think its possible that my drinking too much plain water actually flushes excessive electrolytes?!? So water drinking has become an 'art form' for me ;-) Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Katcha, when I go to a restaurant I always order water with lemon with my meal. Anyway, it's cheaper than soda or something like that. And the water just looks so good and it's so cool that I love to drink it, usually! Sometimes I don't drink as much as I would like because I know I'm paying for the meal, not the water, and I don't want to fill up. But if you're waiting for your nose & throat to be dry, you're waiting too long. Hint: that's how kidney stones, etc., are formed when we don't drink enough wa-wa. Also, I put a Brita personal bottle in the refrigerator so I can take it to the computer and TV with me when I'm sittin' around. Now that we're talking about it, I think I'm going to get some water next trip. With love, Tai > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Stands to reason since our bodies can do without food longer than they can without water ;-) Katcha > > thirst is a much more painful sensation than hunger. > Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Stands to reason since our bodies can do without food longer than they can without water ;-) Katcha > > thirst is a much more painful sensation than hunger. > Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Stands to reason since our bodies can do without food longer than they can without water ;-) Katcha > > thirst is a much more painful sensation than hunger. > Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Tai, and I thought I was a night owl! Sandy I'm lookin' at Syfo now on the windowsill by my chair, Sandy, Lemon Lime flavor. :-) Tai (time for me to start pulling up stakes and getting into the bed.) To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:52 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, I get this product at Publix stores called Syfo naturally flavored sparkling water. It contains no sodium calories or sugar. Not sure about the phosphorus. It's not mentioned anywhere on the bottle. I see it is distributed from Leesburg, Florida so maybe it's a local thing. I like the tangerine flavored but they also have lemon/lime and I think cherry? Sandy Well, I do enjoy seltzer sometimes, Sandy. Someone told me it's not good for me because of the phosphorous, or something like that, but hey, I'm still eating hamburgers (not often though), I'm not gonna stop with seltzer or diet sodas, lol. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:36 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, I think I am addicted to the carbonation more than anything. Sandy I notice after drinking soda, my bladder usually argues with me. I've been drinking diet sodas for years, but now I rarely drink soda with caffeine in it. But I do love non-caffeinated diet coke or pepsi. Years ago I tried Minute Maid Diet Lemonade drink, and I loved it, but about 4 minutes after drinking it I'd have to RUSH to the bathroom and so I avoid that like the plague because I know what will happen. Something they put in it. But I agree with you, diet sodas are probably not my bladder's friend. When I came home today, I ran for a non-caffeinated diet pepsi which I just bought on sale, and it didn't taste that great but I had it anyway because I will not drink sugar sodas, or substitutes like the health junk they put out there, I'm probably stuck on the non-caffeinated diet sodas. If they stopped making that, I'd go through withdrawal. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:17 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, When I drink too much soda, I forget to drink water and then my bladder complains. Sandy Katcha, I have read things about water and electrolytes. Too much water is dangerous, that's true. But how much is too much? I keep a few bottles of water near me but I'm not constantly drinking. The reason I started drinking more water is when I developed bladder infections and realized I must drink more water because I wouldn't drink that much. If I had known this as a kid, maybe I wouldn't have had so many bladder infections and bouts with stones. No, I do not think that a normal amount whatever that is, will wash out electrolytes from the body. When we were traveling I noticed that some areas have tastier water than others. I didn't want the water that didn't taste good. I use filters now and I like them, but our normal water supply isn't bad. Cool water I find to be more refreshing than lukewarm water. I also like seltzer water sometimes. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:43 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Katcha, thanks for that info on the salt, although I do eat probably too much salt. I too find my mouth feels dry and was blaming it on maybe the plastic bottles(trying thermos), but also wonder if because I drink/sip it all the time maybe I have interfered with my body's ability to make saliva. When I have diet soda, especially with caffeine like when we go out, my mouth feels like it is " burning " . That's one reason I don't drink it at home. Sandy Tai, my struggles with water run deep. First I'm not all that fond of plain water. Like you, a slice or dash of lemon goes a long way towards making it 'tasty'. Secondly my thirst signals must have been 'disowned' for even longer than my hunger signs as I still never really feel 'thirsty', only dry. About the only way I have been able to keep better hydrated is to have several small water bottles filled and at places around that house that I hang out at (computer!). That has helped me to drink water when I otherwise wouldn't even think about it. Another 'odd' thing that I find when I drink water is that I can get drier! When my mouth is dry but bladder is overflowing what I need is salt. I do not eat hardly any 'processed' food (scratch cook) and tend to be lighter on salt when cooking since one can always add it. When I get drier after drinking water, having the merest bit of salt helps my body go 'ahhh!' like dry ground does to rain. I think its possible that my drinking too much plain water actually flushes excessive electrolytes?!? So water drinking has become an 'art form' for me ;-) Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Katcha, when I go to a restaurant I always order water with lemon with my meal. Anyway, it's cheaper than soda or something like that. And the water just looks so good and it's so cool that I love to drink it, usually! Sometimes I don't drink as much as I would like because I know I'm paying for the meal, not the water, and I don't want to fill up. But if you're waiting for your nose & throat to be dry, you're waiting too long. Hint: that's how kidney stones, etc., are formed when we don't drink enough wa-wa. Also, I put a Brita personal bottle in the refrigerator so I can take it to the computer and TV with me when I'm sittin' around. Now that we're talking about it, I think I'm going to get some water next trip. With love, Tai > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Tai, and I thought I was a night owl! Sandy I'm lookin' at Syfo now on the windowsill by my chair, Sandy, Lemon Lime flavor. :-) Tai (time for me to start pulling up stakes and getting into the bed.) To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:52 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, I get this product at Publix stores called Syfo naturally flavored sparkling water. It contains no sodium calories or sugar. Not sure about the phosphorus. It's not mentioned anywhere on the bottle. I see it is distributed from Leesburg, Florida so maybe it's a local thing. I like the tangerine flavored but they also have lemon/lime and I think cherry? Sandy Well, I do enjoy seltzer sometimes, Sandy. Someone told me it's not good for me because of the phosphorous, or something like that, but hey, I'm still eating hamburgers (not often though), I'm not gonna stop with seltzer or diet sodas, lol. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:36 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, I think I am addicted to the carbonation more than anything. Sandy I notice after drinking soda, my bladder usually argues with me. I've been drinking diet sodas for years, but now I rarely drink soda with caffeine in it. But I do love non-caffeinated diet coke or pepsi. Years ago I tried Minute Maid Diet Lemonade drink, and I loved it, but about 4 minutes after drinking it I'd have to RUSH to the bathroom and so I avoid that like the plague because I know what will happen. Something they put in it. But I agree with you, diet sodas are probably not my bladder's friend. When I came home today, I ran for a non-caffeinated diet pepsi which I just bought on sale, and it didn't taste that great but I had it anyway because I will not drink sugar sodas, or substitutes like the health junk they put out there, I'm probably stuck on the non-caffeinated diet sodas. If they stopped making that, I'd go through withdrawal. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:17 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, When I drink too much soda, I forget to drink water and then my bladder complains. Sandy Katcha, I have read things about water and electrolytes. Too much water is dangerous, that's true. But how much is too much? I keep a few bottles of water near me but I'm not constantly drinking. The reason I started drinking more water is when I developed bladder infections and realized I must drink more water because I wouldn't drink that much. If I had known this as a kid, maybe I wouldn't have had so many bladder infections and bouts with stones. No, I do not think that a normal amount whatever that is, will wash out electrolytes from the body. When we were traveling I noticed that some areas have tastier water than others. I didn't want the water that didn't taste good. I use filters now and I like them, but our normal water supply isn't bad. Cool water I find to be more refreshing than lukewarm water. I also like seltzer water sometimes. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:43 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Katcha, thanks for that info on the salt, although I do eat probably too much salt. I too find my mouth feels dry and was blaming it on maybe the plastic bottles(trying thermos), but also wonder if because I drink/sip it all the time maybe I have interfered with my body's ability to make saliva. When I have diet soda, especially with caffeine like when we go out, my mouth feels like it is " burning " . That's one reason I don't drink it at home. Sandy Tai, my struggles with water run deep. First I'm not all that fond of plain water. Like you, a slice or dash of lemon goes a long way towards making it 'tasty'. Secondly my thirst signals must have been 'disowned' for even longer than my hunger signs as I still never really feel 'thirsty', only dry. About the only way I have been able to keep better hydrated is to have several small water bottles filled and at places around that house that I hang out at (computer!). That has helped me to drink water when I otherwise wouldn't even think about it. Another 'odd' thing that I find when I drink water is that I can get drier! When my mouth is dry but bladder is overflowing what I need is salt. I do not eat hardly any 'processed' food (scratch cook) and tend to be lighter on salt when cooking since one can always add it. When I get drier after drinking water, having the merest bit of salt helps my body go 'ahhh!' like dry ground does to rain. I think its possible that my drinking too much plain water actually flushes excessive electrolytes?!? So water drinking has become an 'art form' for me ;-) Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Katcha, when I go to a restaurant I always order water with lemon with my meal. Anyway, it's cheaper than soda or something like that. And the water just looks so good and it's so cool that I love to drink it, usually! Sometimes I don't drink as much as I would like because I know I'm paying for the meal, not the water, and I don't want to fill up. But if you're waiting for your nose & throat to be dry, you're waiting too long. Hint: that's how kidney stones, etc., are formed when we don't drink enough wa-wa. Also, I put a Brita personal bottle in the refrigerator so I can take it to the computer and TV with me when I'm sittin' around. Now that we're talking about it, I think I'm going to get some water next trip. With love, Tai > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Sometimes, in order for me to get a "good night's sleep," I have to be really really tired, Sandy. And if I get excited from the internet, I tend to keep awake longer than other times. :-) how's your day going? It is sunny here so far, we almost made it to the beach but something came up that prevented me from going. :-( oh well, life's circumstances. Hope all is well. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 7:00 AMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, and I thought I was a night owl! Sandy I'm lookin' at Syfo now on the windowsill by my chair, Sandy, Lemon Lime flavor. :-) Tai (time for me to start pulling up stakes and getting into the bed.) To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:52 PM Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, I get this product at Publix stores called Syfo naturally flavored sparkling water. It contains no sodium calories or sugar. Not sure about the phosphorus. It's not mentioned anywhere on the bottle. I see it is distributed from Leesburg, Florida so maybe it's a local thing. I like the tangerine flavored but they also have lemon/lime and I think cherry? Sandy Well, I do enjoy seltzer sometimes, Sandy. Someone told me it's not good for me because of the phosphorous, or something like that, but hey, I'm still eating hamburgers (not often though), I'm not gonna stop with seltzer or diet sodas, lol. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:36 PM Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, I think I am addicted to the carbonation more than anything. Sandy I notice after drinking soda, my bladder usually argues with me. I've been drinking diet sodas for years, but now I rarely drink soda with caffeine in it. But I do love non-caffeinated diet coke or pepsi. Years ago I tried Minute Maid Diet Lemonade drink, and I loved it, but about 4 minutes after drinking it I'd have to RUSH to the bathroom and so I avoid that like the plague because I know what will happen. Something they put in it. But I agree with you, diet sodas are probably not my bladder's friend. When I came home today, I ran for a non-caffeinated diet pepsi which I just bought on sale, and it didn't taste that great but I had it anyway because I will not drink sugar sodas, or substitutes like the health junk they put out there, I'm probably stuck on the non-caffeinated diet sodas. If they stopped making that, I'd go through withdrawal. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:17 PM Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, When I drink too much soda, I forget to drink water and then my bladder complains. Sandy Katcha, I have read things about water and electrolytes. Too much water is dangerous, that's true. But how much is too much? I keep a few bottles of water near me but I'm not constantly drinking. The reason I started drinking more water is when I developed bladder infections and realized I must drink more water because I wouldn't drink that much. If I had known this as a kid, maybe I wouldn't have had so many bladder infections and bouts with stones. No, I do not think that a normal amount whatever that is, will wash out electrolytes from the body. When we were traveling I noticed that some areas have tastier water than others. I didn't want the water that didn't taste good. I use filters now and I like them, but our normal water supply isn't bad. Cool water I find to be more refreshing than lukewarm water. I also like seltzer water sometimes. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:43 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Katcha, thanks for that info on the salt, although I do eat probably too much salt. I too find my mouth feels dry and was blaming it on maybe the plastic bottles(trying thermos), but also wonder if because I drink/sip it all the time maybe I have interfered with my body's ability to make saliva. When I have diet soda, especially with caffeine like when we go out, my mouth feels like it is "burning". That's one reason I don't drink it at home. Sandy Tai, my struggles with water run deep. First I'm not all that fond of plain water. Like you, a slice or dash of lemon goes a long way towards making it 'tasty'. Secondly my thirst signals must have been 'disowned' for even longer than my hunger signs as I still never really feel 'thirsty', only dry. About the only way I have been able to keep better hydrated is to have several small water bottles filled and at places around that house that I hang out at (computer!). That has helped me to drink water when I otherwise wouldn't even think about it. Another 'odd' thing that I find when I drink water is that I can get drier! When my mouth is dry but bladder is overflowing what I need is salt. I do not eat hardly any 'processed' food (scratch cook) and tend to be lighter on salt when cooking since one can always add it. When I get drier after drinking water, having the merest bit of salt helps my body go 'ahhh!' like dry ground does to rain. I think its possible that my drinking too much plain water actually flushes excessive electrolytes?!? So water drinking has become an 'art form' for me ;-) KatchaIEing since March 2007> > Katcha, when I go to a restaurant I always order water with lemon with my meal. Anyway, it's cheaper than soda or something like that. And the water just looks so good and it's so cool that I love to drink it, usually! Sometimes I don't drink as much as I would like because I know I'm paying for the meal, not the water, and I don't want to fill up. But if you're waiting for your nose & throat to be dry, you're waiting too long. Hint: that's how kidney stones, etc., are formed when we don't drink enough wa-wa. Also, I put a Brita personal bottle in the refrigerator so I can take it to the computer and TV with me when I'm sittin' around. Now that we're talking about it, I think I'm going to get some water next trip. With love, Tai> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Sometimes, in order for me to get a "good night's sleep," I have to be really really tired, Sandy. And if I get excited from the internet, I tend to keep awake longer than other times. :-) how's your day going? It is sunny here so far, we almost made it to the beach but something came up that prevented me from going. :-( oh well, life's circumstances. Hope all is well. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 7:00 AMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, and I thought I was a night owl! Sandy I'm lookin' at Syfo now on the windowsill by my chair, Sandy, Lemon Lime flavor. :-) Tai (time for me to start pulling up stakes and getting into the bed.) To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:52 PM Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, I get this product at Publix stores called Syfo naturally flavored sparkling water. It contains no sodium calories or sugar. Not sure about the phosphorus. It's not mentioned anywhere on the bottle. I see it is distributed from Leesburg, Florida so maybe it's a local thing. I like the tangerine flavored but they also have lemon/lime and I think cherry? Sandy Well, I do enjoy seltzer sometimes, Sandy. Someone told me it's not good for me because of the phosphorous, or something like that, but hey, I'm still eating hamburgers (not often though), I'm not gonna stop with seltzer or diet sodas, lol. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:36 PM Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, I think I am addicted to the carbonation more than anything. Sandy I notice after drinking soda, my bladder usually argues with me. I've been drinking diet sodas for years, but now I rarely drink soda with caffeine in it. But I do love non-caffeinated diet coke or pepsi. Years ago I tried Minute Maid Diet Lemonade drink, and I loved it, but about 4 minutes after drinking it I'd have to RUSH to the bathroom and so I avoid that like the plague because I know what will happen. Something they put in it. But I agree with you, diet sodas are probably not my bladder's friend. When I came home today, I ran for a non-caffeinated diet pepsi which I just bought on sale, and it didn't taste that great but I had it anyway because I will not drink sugar sodas, or substitutes like the health junk they put out there, I'm probably stuck on the non-caffeinated diet sodas. If they stopped making that, I'd go through withdrawal. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:17 PM Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Tai, When I drink too much soda, I forget to drink water and then my bladder complains. Sandy Katcha, I have read things about water and electrolytes. Too much water is dangerous, that's true. But how much is too much? I keep a few bottles of water near me but I'm not constantly drinking. The reason I started drinking more water is when I developed bladder infections and realized I must drink more water because I wouldn't drink that much. If I had known this as a kid, maybe I wouldn't have had so many bladder infections and bouts with stones. No, I do not think that a normal amount whatever that is, will wash out electrolytes from the body. When we were traveling I noticed that some areas have tastier water than others. I didn't want the water that didn't taste good. I use filters now and I like them, but our normal water supply isn't bad. Cool water I find to be more refreshing than lukewarm water. I also like seltzer water sometimes. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:43 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst Katcha, thanks for that info on the salt, although I do eat probably too much salt. I too find my mouth feels dry and was blaming it on maybe the plastic bottles(trying thermos), but also wonder if because I drink/sip it all the time maybe I have interfered with my body's ability to make saliva. When I have diet soda, especially with caffeine like when we go out, my mouth feels like it is "burning". That's one reason I don't drink it at home. Sandy Tai, my struggles with water run deep. First I'm not all that fond of plain water. Like you, a slice or dash of lemon goes a long way towards making it 'tasty'. Secondly my thirst signals must have been 'disowned' for even longer than my hunger signs as I still never really feel 'thirsty', only dry. About the only way I have been able to keep better hydrated is to have several small water bottles filled and at places around that house that I hang out at (computer!). That has helped me to drink water when I otherwise wouldn't even think about it. Another 'odd' thing that I find when I drink water is that I can get drier! When my mouth is dry but bladder is overflowing what I need is salt. I do not eat hardly any 'processed' food (scratch cook) and tend to be lighter on salt when cooking since one can always add it. When I get drier after drinking water, having the merest bit of salt helps my body go 'ahhh!' like dry ground does to rain. I think its possible that my drinking too much plain water actually flushes excessive electrolytes?!? So water drinking has become an 'art form' for me ;-) KatchaIEing since March 2007> > Katcha, when I go to a restaurant I always order water with lemon with my meal. Anyway, it's cheaper than soda or something like that. And the water just looks so good and it's so cool that I love to drink it, usually! Sometimes I don't drink as much as I would like because I know I'm paying for the meal, not the water, and I don't want to fill up. But if you're waiting for your nose & throat to be dry, you're waiting too long. Hint: that's how kidney stones, etc., are formed when we don't drink enough wa-wa. Also, I put a Brita personal bottle in the refrigerator so I can take it to the computer and TV with me when I'm sittin' around. Now that we're talking about it, I think I'm going to get some water next trip. With love, Tai> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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