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Tai, I have discovered that for now, falling asleep on my couch with tv on and then later going to bed, works pretty good.  I'm sure the " experts " would say that is not a good way. Today I had another liver enzyme blood test done, my last for a while I hope.  At least the new lab is clean, beautiful and you can make appointments(no waiting). Something I ate yesterday triggered my IBS which hasn't happened in a long time to this degree. I probably had to much fresh fruit, veggies, and lettuce in my salad. It'll pass(pun intended) but right now I am somewhat uncomfortable.  I was planning on going to the club house to play Wii bowling with my friends.  Not sure I will make it. I only got to the beach once this year back in April.  It has just been too hot.  We are finally into our summer afternoon T-storm pattern.  Grateful for rain.  Well got to go to bowling. Sandy

 

Sometimes, in order for me to get a " good night's sleep, " I have to be really really tired, Sandy. And if I get excited from the internet, I tend to keep awake longer than other times. :-) how's your day going? It is sunny here so far, we almost made it to the beach but something came up that prevented me from going. :-( oh well, life's circumstances. Hope all is well. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 7:00 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

 

Tai, and I thought I was a night owl! Sandy

 

I'm lookin' at Syfo now on the windowsill by my chair, Sandy, Lemon Lime flavor. :-) Tai (time for me to start pulling up stakes and getting into the bed.)

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:52 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

 

Tai, I get this product at Publix stores called Syfo naturally flavored sparkling water. It contains no sodium calories or sugar.  Not sure about the phosphorus.  It's not mentioned anywhere on the bottle. I see it is distributed from Leesburg, Florida so maybe it's a local thing.  I like the tangerine flavored but they also have lemon/lime and I think cherry? Sandy

 

Well, I do enjoy seltzer sometimes, Sandy. Someone told me it's not good for me because of the phosphorous, or something like that, but hey, I'm still eating hamburgers (not often though), I'm not gonna stop with seltzer or diet sodas, lol. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:36 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

 

Tai, I think I am addicted to the carbonation more than anything.  Sandy

 

I notice after drinking soda, my bladder usually argues with me. I've been drinking diet sodas for years, but now I rarely drink soda with caffeine in it. But I do love non-caffeinated diet coke or pepsi. Years ago I tried Minute Maid Diet Lemonade drink, and I loved it, but about 4 minutes after drinking it I'd have to RUSH to the bathroom and so I avoid that like the plague because I know what will happen. Something they put in it. But I agree with you, diet sodas are probably not my bladder's friend. When I came home today, I ran for a non-caffeinated diet pepsi which I just bought on sale, and it didn't taste that great but I had it anyway because I will not drink sugar sodas, or substitutes like the health junk they put out there, I'm probably stuck on the non-caffeinated diet sodas. If they stopped making that, I'd go through withdrawal. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:17 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

 

Tai, When I drink too much soda, I forget to drink water and then my bladder complains. Sandy

 

Katcha, I have read things about water and electrolytes. Too much water is dangerous, that's true. But how much is too much? I keep a few bottles of water near me but I'm not constantly drinking. The reason I started drinking more water is when I developed bladder infections and realized I must drink more water because I wouldn't drink that much. If I had known this as a kid, maybe I wouldn't have had so many bladder infections and bouts with stones. No, I do not think that a normal amount whatever that is, will wash out electrolytes from the body. When we were traveling I noticed that some areas have tastier water than others. I didn't want the water that didn't taste good. I use filters now and I like them, but our normal water supply isn't bad. Cool water I find to be more refreshing than lukewarm water. I also like seltzer water sometimes. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:43 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

 

Katcha, thanks for that info on the salt, although I do eat probably too much salt.  I too find my mouth feels dry and was blaming it on maybe the plastic bottles(trying thermos), but also wonder if because I drink/sip it all the time maybe I have interfered with my body's ability to make saliva. When I have diet soda, especially with caffeine like when we go out, my mouth feels like it is " burning " . That's one reason I don't drink it at home.  Sandy

 

Tai, my struggles with water run deep. First I'm not all that fond of plain water. Like you, a slice or dash of lemon goes a long way towards making it 'tasty'. Secondly my thirst signals must have been 'disowned' for even longer than my hunger signs as I still never really feel 'thirsty', only dry. About the only way I have been able to keep better hydrated is to have several small water bottles filled and at places around that house that I hang out at (computer!). That has helped me to drink water when I otherwise wouldn't even think about it. Another 'odd' thing that I find when I drink water is that I can get drier! When my mouth is dry but bladder is overflowing what I need is salt. I do not eat hardly any 'processed' food (scratch cook) and tend to be lighter on salt when cooking since one can always add it. When I get drier after drinking water, having the merest bit of salt helps my body go 'ahhh!' like dry ground does to rain. I think its

possible that my drinking too much plain water actually flushes excessive electrolytes?!? So water drinking has become an 'art form' for me ;-)

KatchaIEing since March 2007

>

> Katcha, when I go to a restaurant I always order water with lemon with my meal. Anyway, it's cheaper than soda or something like that. And the water just looks so good and it's so cool that I love to drink it, usually! Sometimes I don't drink as much as I would like because I know I'm paying for the meal, not the water, and I don't want to fill up. But if you're waiting for your nose & throat to be dry, you're waiting too long. Hint: that's how kidney stones, etc., are formed when we don't drink enough wa-wa. Also, I put a Brita personal bottle in the refrigerator so I can take it to the computer and TV with me when I'm sittin' around. Now that we're talking about it, I think I'm going to get some water next trip. With love, Tai

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Tai, I have discovered that for now, falling asleep on my couch with tv on and then later going to bed, works pretty good.  I'm sure the " experts " would say that is not a good way. Today I had another liver enzyme blood test done, my last for a while I hope.  At least the new lab is clean, beautiful and you can make appointments(no waiting). Something I ate yesterday triggered my IBS which hasn't happened in a long time to this degree. I probably had to much fresh fruit, veggies, and lettuce in my salad. It'll pass(pun intended) but right now I am somewhat uncomfortable.  I was planning on going to the club house to play Wii bowling with my friends.  Not sure I will make it. I only got to the beach once this year back in April.  It has just been too hot.  We are finally into our summer afternoon T-storm pattern.  Grateful for rain.  Well got to go to bowling. Sandy

 

Sometimes, in order for me to get a " good night's sleep, " I have to be really really tired, Sandy. And if I get excited from the internet, I tend to keep awake longer than other times. :-) how's your day going? It is sunny here so far, we almost made it to the beach but something came up that prevented me from going. :-( oh well, life's circumstances. Hope all is well. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 7:00 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

 

Tai, and I thought I was a night owl! Sandy

 

I'm lookin' at Syfo now on the windowsill by my chair, Sandy, Lemon Lime flavor. :-) Tai (time for me to start pulling up stakes and getting into the bed.)

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:52 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

 

Tai, I get this product at Publix stores called Syfo naturally flavored sparkling water. It contains no sodium calories or sugar.  Not sure about the phosphorus.  It's not mentioned anywhere on the bottle. I see it is distributed from Leesburg, Florida so maybe it's a local thing.  I like the tangerine flavored but they also have lemon/lime and I think cherry? Sandy

 

Well, I do enjoy seltzer sometimes, Sandy. Someone told me it's not good for me because of the phosphorous, or something like that, but hey, I'm still eating hamburgers (not often though), I'm not gonna stop with seltzer or diet sodas, lol. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:36 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

 

Tai, I think I am addicted to the carbonation more than anything.  Sandy

 

I notice after drinking soda, my bladder usually argues with me. I've been drinking diet sodas for years, but now I rarely drink soda with caffeine in it. But I do love non-caffeinated diet coke or pepsi. Years ago I tried Minute Maid Diet Lemonade drink, and I loved it, but about 4 minutes after drinking it I'd have to RUSH to the bathroom and so I avoid that like the plague because I know what will happen. Something they put in it. But I agree with you, diet sodas are probably not my bladder's friend. When I came home today, I ran for a non-caffeinated diet pepsi which I just bought on sale, and it didn't taste that great but I had it anyway because I will not drink sugar sodas, or substitutes like the health junk they put out there, I'm probably stuck on the non-caffeinated diet sodas. If they stopped making that, I'd go through withdrawal. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:17 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

 

Tai, When I drink too much soda, I forget to drink water and then my bladder complains. Sandy

 

Katcha, I have read things about water and electrolytes. Too much water is dangerous, that's true. But how much is too much? I keep a few bottles of water near me but I'm not constantly drinking. The reason I started drinking more water is when I developed bladder infections and realized I must drink more water because I wouldn't drink that much. If I had known this as a kid, maybe I wouldn't have had so many bladder infections and bouts with stones. No, I do not think that a normal amount whatever that is, will wash out electrolytes from the body. When we were traveling I noticed that some areas have tastier water than others. I didn't want the water that didn't taste good. I use filters now and I like them, but our normal water supply isn't bad. Cool water I find to be more refreshing than lukewarm water. I also like seltzer water sometimes. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:43 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

 

Katcha, thanks for that info on the salt, although I do eat probably too much salt.  I too find my mouth feels dry and was blaming it on maybe the plastic bottles(trying thermos), but also wonder if because I drink/sip it all the time maybe I have interfered with my body's ability to make saliva. When I have diet soda, especially with caffeine like when we go out, my mouth feels like it is " burning " . That's one reason I don't drink it at home.  Sandy

 

Tai, my struggles with water run deep. First I'm not all that fond of plain water. Like you, a slice or dash of lemon goes a long way towards making it 'tasty'. Secondly my thirst signals must have been 'disowned' for even longer than my hunger signs as I still never really feel 'thirsty', only dry. About the only way I have been able to keep better hydrated is to have several small water bottles filled and at places around that house that I hang out at (computer!). That has helped me to drink water when I otherwise wouldn't even think about it. Another 'odd' thing that I find when I drink water is that I can get drier! When my mouth is dry but bladder is overflowing what I need is salt. I do not eat hardly any 'processed' food (scratch cook) and tend to be lighter on salt when cooking since one can always add it. When I get drier after drinking water, having the merest bit of salt helps my body go 'ahhh!' like dry ground does to rain. I think its

possible that my drinking too much plain water actually flushes excessive electrolytes?!? So water drinking has become an 'art form' for me ;-)

KatchaIEing since March 2007

>

> Katcha, when I go to a restaurant I always order water with lemon with my meal. Anyway, it's cheaper than soda or something like that. And the water just looks so good and it's so cool that I love to drink it, usually! Sometimes I don't drink as much as I would like because I know I'm paying for the meal, not the water, and I don't want to fill up. But if you're waiting for your nose & throat to be dry, you're waiting too long. Hint: that's how kidney stones, etc., are formed when we don't drink enough wa-wa. Also, I put a Brita personal bottle in the refrigerator so I can take it to the computer and TV with me when I'm sittin' around. Now that we're talking about it, I think I'm going to get some water next trip. With love, Tai

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Tai, I have discovered that for now, falling asleep on my couch with tv on and then later going to bed, works pretty good.  I'm sure the " experts " would say that is not a good way. Today I had another liver enzyme blood test done, my last for a while I hope.  At least the new lab is clean, beautiful and you can make appointments(no waiting). Something I ate yesterday triggered my IBS which hasn't happened in a long time to this degree. I probably had to much fresh fruit, veggies, and lettuce in my salad. It'll pass(pun intended) but right now I am somewhat uncomfortable.  I was planning on going to the club house to play Wii bowling with my friends.  Not sure I will make it. I only got to the beach once this year back in April.  It has just been too hot.  We are finally into our summer afternoon T-storm pattern.  Grateful for rain.  Well got to go to bowling. Sandy

 

Sometimes, in order for me to get a " good night's sleep, " I have to be really really tired, Sandy. And if I get excited from the internet, I tend to keep awake longer than other times. :-) how's your day going? It is sunny here so far, we almost made it to the beach but something came up that prevented me from going. :-( oh well, life's circumstances. Hope all is well. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 7:00 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

 

Tai, and I thought I was a night owl! Sandy

 

I'm lookin' at Syfo now on the windowsill by my chair, Sandy, Lemon Lime flavor. :-) Tai (time for me to start pulling up stakes and getting into the bed.)

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:52 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

 

Tai, I get this product at Publix stores called Syfo naturally flavored sparkling water. It contains no sodium calories or sugar.  Not sure about the phosphorus.  It's not mentioned anywhere on the bottle. I see it is distributed from Leesburg, Florida so maybe it's a local thing.  I like the tangerine flavored but they also have lemon/lime and I think cherry? Sandy

 

Well, I do enjoy seltzer sometimes, Sandy. Someone told me it's not good for me because of the phosphorous, or something like that, but hey, I'm still eating hamburgers (not often though), I'm not gonna stop with seltzer or diet sodas, lol. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:36 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

 

Tai, I think I am addicted to the carbonation more than anything.  Sandy

 

I notice after drinking soda, my bladder usually argues with me. I've been drinking diet sodas for years, but now I rarely drink soda with caffeine in it. But I do love non-caffeinated diet coke or pepsi. Years ago I tried Minute Maid Diet Lemonade drink, and I loved it, but about 4 minutes after drinking it I'd have to RUSH to the bathroom and so I avoid that like the plague because I know what will happen. Something they put in it. But I agree with you, diet sodas are probably not my bladder's friend. When I came home today, I ran for a non-caffeinated diet pepsi which I just bought on sale, and it didn't taste that great but I had it anyway because I will not drink sugar sodas, or substitutes like the health junk they put out there, I'm probably stuck on the non-caffeinated diet sodas. If they stopped making that, I'd go through withdrawal. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:17 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

 

Tai, When I drink too much soda, I forget to drink water and then my bladder complains. Sandy

 

Katcha, I have read things about water and electrolytes. Too much water is dangerous, that's true. But how much is too much? I keep a few bottles of water near me but I'm not constantly drinking. The reason I started drinking more water is when I developed bladder infections and realized I must drink more water because I wouldn't drink that much. If I had known this as a kid, maybe I wouldn't have had so many bladder infections and bouts with stones. No, I do not think that a normal amount whatever that is, will wash out electrolytes from the body. When we were traveling I noticed that some areas have tastier water than others. I didn't want the water that didn't taste good. I use filters now and I like them, but our normal water supply isn't bad. Cool water I find to be more refreshing than lukewarm water. I also like seltzer water sometimes. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:43 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

 

Katcha, thanks for that info on the salt, although I do eat probably too much salt.  I too find my mouth feels dry and was blaming it on maybe the plastic bottles(trying thermos), but also wonder if because I drink/sip it all the time maybe I have interfered with my body's ability to make saliva. When I have diet soda, especially with caffeine like when we go out, my mouth feels like it is " burning " . That's one reason I don't drink it at home.  Sandy

 

Tai, my struggles with water run deep. First I'm not all that fond of plain water. Like you, a slice or dash of lemon goes a long way towards making it 'tasty'. Secondly my thirst signals must have been 'disowned' for even longer than my hunger signs as I still never really feel 'thirsty', only dry. About the only way I have been able to keep better hydrated is to have several small water bottles filled and at places around that house that I hang out at (computer!). That has helped me to drink water when I otherwise wouldn't even think about it. Another 'odd' thing that I find when I drink water is that I can get drier! When my mouth is dry but bladder is overflowing what I need is salt. I do not eat hardly any 'processed' food (scratch cook) and tend to be lighter on salt when cooking since one can always add it. When I get drier after drinking water, having the merest bit of salt helps my body go 'ahhh!' like dry ground does to rain. I think its

possible that my drinking too much plain water actually flushes excessive electrolytes?!? So water drinking has become an 'art form' for me ;-)

KatchaIEing since March 2007

>

> Katcha, when I go to a restaurant I always order water with lemon with my meal. Anyway, it's cheaper than soda or something like that. And the water just looks so good and it's so cool that I love to drink it, usually! Sometimes I don't drink as much as I would like because I know I'm paying for the meal, not the water, and I don't want to fill up. But if you're waiting for your nose & throat to be dry, you're waiting too long. Hint: that's how kidney stones, etc., are formed when we don't drink enough wa-wa. Also, I put a Brita personal bottle in the refrigerator so I can take it to the computer and TV with me when I'm sittin' around. Now that we're talking about it, I think I'm going to get some water next trip. With love, Tai

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Sandy, listen to the body talking. My very bestest of friends in this world also keeps the TV going all night, it keeps her company. She works days and feels better sleeping when the TV is going. Lately I too have been feeling better, for which I am happy. I'm listening to myself and the body, so if I have to take it easy, I do. (note - if I can take it easy, sometimes I can't and THAT is not a real good day for me) Good going, Sandy! "Experts" are a dime a dozen, and people choose their expert :-) or what works for them. Sometimes. Sometimes people WANT to fit in with a plan or philosophy and it never sets well with them.

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:49 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, I have discovered that for now, falling asleep on my couch with tv on and then later going to bed, works pretty good. I'm sure the "experts" would say that is not a good way. Today I had another liver enzyme blood test done, my last for a while I hope. At least the new lab is clean, beautiful and you can make appointments(no waiting). Something I ate yesterday triggered my IBS which hasn't happened in a long time to this degree. I probably had to much fresh fruit, veggies, and lettuce in my salad. It'll pass(pun intended) but right now I am somewhat uncomfortable. I was planning on going to the club house to play Wii bowling with my friends. Not sure I will make it. I only got to the beach once this year back in April. It has just been too hot. We are finally into our summer afternoon T-storm pattern. Grateful for rain. Well got to go to bowling. Sandy

Sometimes, in order for me to get a "good night's sleep," I have to be really really tired, Sandy. And if I get excited from the internet, I tend to keep awake longer than other times. :-) how's your day going? It is sunny here so far, we almost made it to the beach but something came up that prevented me from going. :-( oh well, life's circumstances. Hope all is well. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 7:00 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, and I thought I was a night owl! Sandy

I'm lookin' at Syfo now on the windowsill by my chair, Sandy, Lemon Lime flavor. :-) Tai (time for me to start pulling up stakes and getting into the bed.)

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:52 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, I get this product at Publix stores called Syfo naturally flavored sparkling water. It contains no sodium calories or sugar. Not sure about the phosphorus. It's not mentioned anywhere on the bottle. I see it is distributed from Leesburg, Florida so maybe it's a local thing. I like the tangerine flavored but they also have lemon/lime and I think cherry? Sandy

Well, I do enjoy seltzer sometimes, Sandy. Someone told me it's not good for me because of the phosphorous, or something like that, but hey, I'm still eating hamburgers (not often though), I'm not gonna stop with seltzer or diet sodas, lol. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:36 PM Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, I think I am addicted to the carbonation more than anything. Sandy

I notice after drinking soda, my bladder usually argues with me. I've been drinking diet sodas for years, but now I rarely drink soda with caffeine in it. But I do love non-caffeinated diet coke or pepsi. Years ago I tried Minute Maid Diet Lemonade drink, and I loved it, but about 4 minutes after drinking it I'd have to RUSH to the bathroom and so I avoid that like the plague because I know what will happen. Something they put in it. But I agree with you, diet sodas are probably not my bladder's friend. When I came home today, I ran for a non-caffeinated diet pepsi which I just bought on sale, and it didn't taste that great but I had it anyway because I will not drink sugar sodas, or substitutes like the health junk they put out there, I'm probably stuck on the non-caffeinated diet sodas. If they stopped making that, I'd go through withdrawal. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:17 PM Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, When I drink too much soda, I forget to drink water and then my bladder complains. Sandy

Katcha, I have read things about water and electrolytes. Too much water is dangerous, that's true. But how much is too much? I keep a few bottles of water near me but I'm not constantly drinking. The reason I started drinking more water is when I developed bladder infections and realized I must drink more water because I wouldn't drink that much. If I had known this as a kid, maybe I wouldn't have had so many bladder infections and bouts with stones. No, I do not think that a normal amount whatever that is, will wash out electrolytes from the body. When we were traveling I noticed that some areas have tastier water than others. I didn't want the water that didn't taste good. I use filters now and I like them, but our normal water supply isn't bad. Cool water I find to be more refreshing than lukewarm water. I also like seltzer water sometimes. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:43 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Katcha, thanks for that info on the salt, although I do eat probably too much salt. I too find my mouth feels dry and was blaming it on maybe the plastic bottles(trying thermos), but also wonder if because I drink/sip it all the time maybe I have interfered with my body's ability to make saliva. When I have diet soda, especially with caffeine like when we go out, my mouth feels like it is "burning". That's one reason I don't drink it at home. Sandy

Tai, my struggles with water run deep. First I'm not all that fond of plain water. Like you, a slice or dash of lemon goes a long way towards making it 'tasty'. Secondly my thirst signals must have been 'disowned' for even longer than my hunger signs as I still never really feel 'thirsty', only dry. About the only way I have been able to keep better hydrated is to have several small water bottles filled and at places around that house that I hang out at (computer!). That has helped me to drink water when I otherwise wouldn't even think about it. Another 'odd' thing that I find when I drink water is that I can get drier! When my mouth is dry but bladder is overflowing what I need is salt. I do not eat hardly any 'processed' food (scratch cook) and tend to be lighter on salt when cooking since one can always add it. When I get drier after drinking water, having the merest bit of salt helps my body go 'ahhh!' like dry ground does to rain. I think its

possible that my drinking too much plain water actually flushes excessive electrolytes?!? So water drinking has become an 'art form' for me ;-)

KatchaIEing since March 2007>

> Katcha, when I go to a restaurant I always order water with lemon with my meal. Anyway, it's cheaper than soda or something like that. And the water just looks so good and it's so cool that I love to drink it, usually! Sometimes I don't drink as much as I would like because I know I'm paying for the meal, not the water, and I don't want to fill up. But if you're waiting for your nose & throat to be dry, you're waiting too long. Hint: that's how kidney stones, etc., are formed when we don't drink enough wa-wa. Also, I put a Brita personal bottle in the refrigerator so I can take it to the computer and TV with me when I'm sittin' around. Now that we're talking about it, I think I'm going to get some water next trip. With love, Tai>

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Sandy, listen to the body talking. My very bestest of friends in this world also keeps the TV going all night, it keeps her company. She works days and feels better sleeping when the TV is going. Lately I too have been feeling better, for which I am happy. I'm listening to myself and the body, so if I have to take it easy, I do. (note - if I can take it easy, sometimes I can't and THAT is not a real good day for me) Good going, Sandy! "Experts" are a dime a dozen, and people choose their expert :-) or what works for them. Sometimes. Sometimes people WANT to fit in with a plan or philosophy and it never sets well with them.

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:49 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, I have discovered that for now, falling asleep on my couch with tv on and then later going to bed, works pretty good. I'm sure the "experts" would say that is not a good way. Today I had another liver enzyme blood test done, my last for a while I hope. At least the new lab is clean, beautiful and you can make appointments(no waiting). Something I ate yesterday triggered my IBS which hasn't happened in a long time to this degree. I probably had to much fresh fruit, veggies, and lettuce in my salad. It'll pass(pun intended) but right now I am somewhat uncomfortable. I was planning on going to the club house to play Wii bowling with my friends. Not sure I will make it. I only got to the beach once this year back in April. It has just been too hot. We are finally into our summer afternoon T-storm pattern. Grateful for rain. Well got to go to bowling. Sandy

Sometimes, in order for me to get a "good night's sleep," I have to be really really tired, Sandy. And if I get excited from the internet, I tend to keep awake longer than other times. :-) how's your day going? It is sunny here so far, we almost made it to the beach but something came up that prevented me from going. :-( oh well, life's circumstances. Hope all is well. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 7:00 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, and I thought I was a night owl! Sandy

I'm lookin' at Syfo now on the windowsill by my chair, Sandy, Lemon Lime flavor. :-) Tai (time for me to start pulling up stakes and getting into the bed.)

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:52 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, I get this product at Publix stores called Syfo naturally flavored sparkling water. It contains no sodium calories or sugar. Not sure about the phosphorus. It's not mentioned anywhere on the bottle. I see it is distributed from Leesburg, Florida so maybe it's a local thing. I like the tangerine flavored but they also have lemon/lime and I think cherry? Sandy

Well, I do enjoy seltzer sometimes, Sandy. Someone told me it's not good for me because of the phosphorous, or something like that, but hey, I'm still eating hamburgers (not often though), I'm not gonna stop with seltzer or diet sodas, lol. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:36 PM Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, I think I am addicted to the carbonation more than anything. Sandy

I notice after drinking soda, my bladder usually argues with me. I've been drinking diet sodas for years, but now I rarely drink soda with caffeine in it. But I do love non-caffeinated diet coke or pepsi. Years ago I tried Minute Maid Diet Lemonade drink, and I loved it, but about 4 minutes after drinking it I'd have to RUSH to the bathroom and so I avoid that like the plague because I know what will happen. Something they put in it. But I agree with you, diet sodas are probably not my bladder's friend. When I came home today, I ran for a non-caffeinated diet pepsi which I just bought on sale, and it didn't taste that great but I had it anyway because I will not drink sugar sodas, or substitutes like the health junk they put out there, I'm probably stuck on the non-caffeinated diet sodas. If they stopped making that, I'd go through withdrawal. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:17 PM Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, When I drink too much soda, I forget to drink water and then my bladder complains. Sandy

Katcha, I have read things about water and electrolytes. Too much water is dangerous, that's true. But how much is too much? I keep a few bottles of water near me but I'm not constantly drinking. The reason I started drinking more water is when I developed bladder infections and realized I must drink more water because I wouldn't drink that much. If I had known this as a kid, maybe I wouldn't have had so many bladder infections and bouts with stones. No, I do not think that a normal amount whatever that is, will wash out electrolytes from the body. When we were traveling I noticed that some areas have tastier water than others. I didn't want the water that didn't taste good. I use filters now and I like them, but our normal water supply isn't bad. Cool water I find to be more refreshing than lukewarm water. I also like seltzer water sometimes. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:43 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Katcha, thanks for that info on the salt, although I do eat probably too much salt. I too find my mouth feels dry and was blaming it on maybe the plastic bottles(trying thermos), but also wonder if because I drink/sip it all the time maybe I have interfered with my body's ability to make saliva. When I have diet soda, especially with caffeine like when we go out, my mouth feels like it is "burning". That's one reason I don't drink it at home. Sandy

Tai, my struggles with water run deep. First I'm not all that fond of plain water. Like you, a slice or dash of lemon goes a long way towards making it 'tasty'. Secondly my thirst signals must have been 'disowned' for even longer than my hunger signs as I still never really feel 'thirsty', only dry. About the only way I have been able to keep better hydrated is to have several small water bottles filled and at places around that house that I hang out at (computer!). That has helped me to drink water when I otherwise wouldn't even think about it. Another 'odd' thing that I find when I drink water is that I can get drier! When my mouth is dry but bladder is overflowing what I need is salt. I do not eat hardly any 'processed' food (scratch cook) and tend to be lighter on salt when cooking since one can always add it. When I get drier after drinking water, having the merest bit of salt helps my body go 'ahhh!' like dry ground does to rain. I think its

possible that my drinking too much plain water actually flushes excessive electrolytes?!? So water drinking has become an 'art form' for me ;-)

KatchaIEing since March 2007>

> Katcha, when I go to a restaurant I always order water with lemon with my meal. Anyway, it's cheaper than soda or something like that. And the water just looks so good and it's so cool that I love to drink it, usually! Sometimes I don't drink as much as I would like because I know I'm paying for the meal, not the water, and I don't want to fill up. But if you're waiting for your nose & throat to be dry, you're waiting too long. Hint: that's how kidney stones, etc., are formed when we don't drink enough wa-wa. Also, I put a Brita personal bottle in the refrigerator so I can take it to the computer and TV with me when I'm sittin' around. Now that we're talking about it, I think I'm going to get some water next trip. With love, Tai>

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Sandy, listen to the body talking. My very bestest of friends in this world also keeps the TV going all night, it keeps her company. She works days and feels better sleeping when the TV is going. Lately I too have been feeling better, for which I am happy. I'm listening to myself and the body, so if I have to take it easy, I do. (note - if I can take it easy, sometimes I can't and THAT is not a real good day for me) Good going, Sandy! "Experts" are a dime a dozen, and people choose their expert :-) or what works for them. Sometimes. Sometimes people WANT to fit in with a plan or philosophy and it never sets well with them.

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:49 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, I have discovered that for now, falling asleep on my couch with tv on and then later going to bed, works pretty good. I'm sure the "experts" would say that is not a good way. Today I had another liver enzyme blood test done, my last for a while I hope. At least the new lab is clean, beautiful and you can make appointments(no waiting). Something I ate yesterday triggered my IBS which hasn't happened in a long time to this degree. I probably had to much fresh fruit, veggies, and lettuce in my salad. It'll pass(pun intended) but right now I am somewhat uncomfortable. I was planning on going to the club house to play Wii bowling with my friends. Not sure I will make it. I only got to the beach once this year back in April. It has just been too hot. We are finally into our summer afternoon T-storm pattern. Grateful for rain. Well got to go to bowling. Sandy

Sometimes, in order for me to get a "good night's sleep," I have to be really really tired, Sandy. And if I get excited from the internet, I tend to keep awake longer than other times. :-) how's your day going? It is sunny here so far, we almost made it to the beach but something came up that prevented me from going. :-( oh well, life's circumstances. Hope all is well. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 7:00 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, and I thought I was a night owl! Sandy

I'm lookin' at Syfo now on the windowsill by my chair, Sandy, Lemon Lime flavor. :-) Tai (time for me to start pulling up stakes and getting into the bed.)

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:52 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, I get this product at Publix stores called Syfo naturally flavored sparkling water. It contains no sodium calories or sugar. Not sure about the phosphorus. It's not mentioned anywhere on the bottle. I see it is distributed from Leesburg, Florida so maybe it's a local thing. I like the tangerine flavored but they also have lemon/lime and I think cherry? Sandy

Well, I do enjoy seltzer sometimes, Sandy. Someone told me it's not good for me because of the phosphorous, or something like that, but hey, I'm still eating hamburgers (not often though), I'm not gonna stop with seltzer or diet sodas, lol. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:36 PM Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, I think I am addicted to the carbonation more than anything. Sandy

I notice after drinking soda, my bladder usually argues with me. I've been drinking diet sodas for years, but now I rarely drink soda with caffeine in it. But I do love non-caffeinated diet coke or pepsi. Years ago I tried Minute Maid Diet Lemonade drink, and I loved it, but about 4 minutes after drinking it I'd have to RUSH to the bathroom and so I avoid that like the plague because I know what will happen. Something they put in it. But I agree with you, diet sodas are probably not my bladder's friend. When I came home today, I ran for a non-caffeinated diet pepsi which I just bought on sale, and it didn't taste that great but I had it anyway because I will not drink sugar sodas, or substitutes like the health junk they put out there, I'm probably stuck on the non-caffeinated diet sodas. If they stopped making that, I'd go through withdrawal. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:17 PM Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, When I drink too much soda, I forget to drink water and then my bladder complains. Sandy

Katcha, I have read things about water and electrolytes. Too much water is dangerous, that's true. But how much is too much? I keep a few bottles of water near me but I'm not constantly drinking. The reason I started drinking more water is when I developed bladder infections and realized I must drink more water because I wouldn't drink that much. If I had known this as a kid, maybe I wouldn't have had so many bladder infections and bouts with stones. No, I do not think that a normal amount whatever that is, will wash out electrolytes from the body. When we were traveling I noticed that some areas have tastier water than others. I didn't want the water that didn't taste good. I use filters now and I like them, but our normal water supply isn't bad. Cool water I find to be more refreshing than lukewarm water. I also like seltzer water sometimes. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:43 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Katcha, thanks for that info on the salt, although I do eat probably too much salt. I too find my mouth feels dry and was blaming it on maybe the plastic bottles(trying thermos), but also wonder if because I drink/sip it all the time maybe I have interfered with my body's ability to make saliva. When I have diet soda, especially with caffeine like when we go out, my mouth feels like it is "burning". That's one reason I don't drink it at home. Sandy

Tai, my struggles with water run deep. First I'm not all that fond of plain water. Like you, a slice or dash of lemon goes a long way towards making it 'tasty'. Secondly my thirst signals must have been 'disowned' for even longer than my hunger signs as I still never really feel 'thirsty', only dry. About the only way I have been able to keep better hydrated is to have several small water bottles filled and at places around that house that I hang out at (computer!). That has helped me to drink water when I otherwise wouldn't even think about it. Another 'odd' thing that I find when I drink water is that I can get drier! When my mouth is dry but bladder is overflowing what I need is salt. I do not eat hardly any 'processed' food (scratch cook) and tend to be lighter on salt when cooking since one can always add it. When I get drier after drinking water, having the merest bit of salt helps my body go 'ahhh!' like dry ground does to rain. I think its

possible that my drinking too much plain water actually flushes excessive electrolytes?!? So water drinking has become an 'art form' for me ;-)

KatchaIEing since March 2007>

> Katcha, when I go to a restaurant I always order water with lemon with my meal. Anyway, it's cheaper than soda or something like that. And the water just looks so good and it's so cool that I love to drink it, usually! Sometimes I don't drink as much as I would like because I know I'm paying for the meal, not the water, and I don't want to fill up. But if you're waiting for your nose & throat to be dry, you're waiting too long. Hint: that's how kidney stones, etc., are formed when we don't drink enough wa-wa. Also, I put a Brita personal bottle in the refrigerator so I can take it to the computer and TV with me when I'm sittin' around. Now that we're talking about it, I think I'm going to get some water next trip. With love, Tai>

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Katcha, and Jane, I guess, then, I've never been thirsty, altho I do know there were YEARS literally that I did not drink nearly enough water. Now that I've learned about the benefits and necessity of drinking reasonable daily quantities of water, I no longer have the infections I had on a steady basis. When a person has had enough difficulties, I guess they don't

want more of the same. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:13 AMSubject: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Stands to reason since our bodies can do without food longer than they can without water ;-)Katcha>> thirst is a much more painful sensation than hunger. > Jane

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Katcha, and Jane, I guess, then, I've never been thirsty, altho I do know there were YEARS literally that I did not drink nearly enough water. Now that I've learned about the benefits and necessity of drinking reasonable daily quantities of water, I no longer have the infections I had on a steady basis. When a person has had enough difficulties, I guess they don't

want more of the same. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:13 AMSubject: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Stands to reason since our bodies can do without food longer than they can without water ;-)Katcha>> thirst is a much more painful sensation than hunger. > Jane

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Tai, the past month I have just decided to go with it. Sandy

 

Sandy, listen to the body talking. My very bestest of friends in this world also keeps the TV going all night, it keeps her company. She works days and feels better sleeping when the TV is going. Lately I too have been feeling better, for which I am happy. I'm listening to myself and the body, so if I have to take it easy, I do. (note - if I can take it easy, sometimes I can't and THAT is not a real good day for me) Good going, Sandy! " Experts " are a dime a dozen, and people choose their expert :-) or what works for them. Sometimes. Sometimes people WANT to fit in with a plan or philosophy and it never sets well with them.

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:49 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

 

Tai, I have discovered that for now, falling asleep on my couch with tv on and then later going to bed, works pretty good.  I'm sure the " experts " would say that is not a good way. Today I had another liver enzyme blood test done, my last for a while I hope.  At least the new lab is clean, beautiful and you can make appointments(no waiting). Something I ate yesterday triggered my IBS which hasn't happened in a long time to this degree. I probably had to much fresh fruit, veggies, and lettuce in my salad. It'll pass(pun intended) but right now I am somewhat uncomfortable.  I was planning on going to the club house to play Wii bowling with my friends.  Not sure I will make it. I only got to the beach once this year back in April.  It has just been too hot.  We are finally into our summer afternoon T-storm pattern.  Grateful for rain.  Well got to go to bowling. Sandy

 

Sometimes, in order for me to get a " good night's sleep, " I have to be really really tired, Sandy. And if I get excited from the internet, I tend to keep awake longer than other times. :-) how's your day going? It is sunny here so far, we almost made it to the beach but something came up that prevented me from going. :-( oh well, life's circumstances. Hope all is well. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 7:00 AM

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Tai, and I thought I was a night owl! Sandy

 

I'm lookin' at Syfo now on the windowsill by my chair, Sandy, Lemon Lime flavor. :-) Tai (time for me to start pulling up stakes and getting into the bed.)

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:52 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

 

Tai, I get this product at Publix stores called Syfo naturally flavored sparkling water. It contains no sodium calories or sugar.  Not sure about the phosphorus.  It's not mentioned anywhere on the bottle. I see it is distributed from Leesburg, Florida so maybe it's a local thing.  I like the tangerine flavored but they also have lemon/lime and I think cherry? Sandy

 

Well, I do enjoy seltzer sometimes, Sandy. Someone told me it's not good for me because of the phosphorous, or something like that, but hey, I'm still eating hamburgers (not often though), I'm not gonna stop with seltzer or diet sodas, lol. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:36 PM Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

 

Tai, I think I am addicted to the carbonation more than anything.  Sandy

 

I notice after drinking soda, my bladder usually argues with me. I've been drinking diet sodas for years, but now I rarely drink soda with caffeine in it. But I do love non-caffeinated diet coke or pepsi. Years ago I tried Minute Maid Diet Lemonade drink, and I loved it, but about 4 minutes after drinking it I'd have to RUSH to the bathroom and so I avoid that like the plague because I know what will happen. Something they put in it. But I agree with you, diet sodas are probably not my bladder's friend. When I came home today, I ran for a non-caffeinated diet pepsi which I just bought on sale, and it didn't taste that great but I had it anyway because I will not drink sugar sodas, or substitutes like the health junk they put out there, I'm probably stuck on the non-caffeinated diet sodas. If they stopped making that, I'd go through withdrawal. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:17 PM Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

 

Tai, When I drink too much soda, I forget to drink water and then my bladder complains. Sandy

 

Katcha, I have read things about water and electrolytes. Too much water is dangerous, that's true. But how much is too much? I keep a few bottles of water near me but I'm not constantly drinking. The reason I started drinking more water is when I developed bladder infections and realized I must drink more water because I wouldn't drink that much. If I had known this as a kid, maybe I wouldn't have had so many bladder infections and bouts with stones. No, I do not think that a normal amount whatever that is, will wash out electrolytes from the body. When we were traveling I noticed that some areas have tastier water than others. I didn't want the water that didn't taste good. I use filters now and I like them, but our normal water supply isn't bad. Cool water I find to be more refreshing than lukewarm water. I also like seltzer water sometimes. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:43 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

 

Katcha, thanks for that info on the salt, although I do eat probably too much salt.  I too find my mouth feels dry and was blaming it on maybe the plastic bottles(trying thermos), but also wonder if because I drink/sip it all the time maybe I have interfered with my body's ability to make saliva. When I have diet soda, especially with caffeine like when we go out, my mouth feels like it is " burning " . That's one reason I don't drink it at home.  Sandy

 

Tai, my struggles with water run deep. First I'm not all that fond of plain water. Like you, a slice or dash of lemon goes a long way towards making it 'tasty'. Secondly my thirst signals must have been 'disowned' for even longer than my hunger signs as I still never really feel 'thirsty', only dry. About the only way I have been able to keep better hydrated is to have several small water bottles filled and at places around that house that I hang out at (computer!). That has helped me to drink water when I otherwise wouldn't even think about it. Another 'odd' thing that I find when I drink water is that I can get drier! When my mouth is dry but bladder is overflowing what I need is salt. I do not eat hardly any 'processed' food (scratch cook) and tend to be lighter on salt when cooking since one can always add it. When I get drier after drinking water, having the merest bit of salt helps my body go 'ahhh!' like dry ground does to rain. I think its

possible that my drinking too much plain water actually flushes excessive electrolytes?!? So water drinking has become an 'art form' for me ;-)

KatchaIEing since March 2007

>

> Katcha, when I go to a restaurant I always order water with lemon with my meal. Anyway, it's cheaper than soda or something like that. And the water just looks so good and it's so cool that I love to drink it, usually! Sometimes I don't drink as much as I would like because I know I'm paying for the meal, not the water, and I don't want to fill up. But if you're waiting for your nose & throat to be dry, you're waiting too long. Hint: that's how kidney stones, etc., are formed when we don't drink enough wa-wa. Also, I put a Brita personal bottle in the refrigerator so I can take it to the computer and TV with me when I'm sittin' around. Now that we're talking about it, I think I'm going to get some water next trip. With love, Tai

>

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sounds good to me, Sandy. That is why sometimes I wait to go to bed until I'm really really tired. I remember when I was working and had to get up early, boy, did I get anxiety over that, but I would force myself to because I TaiTo:

IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:41 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, the past month I have just decided to go with it. Sandy

Sandy, listen to the body talking. My very bestest of friends in this world also keeps the TV going all night, it keeps her company. She works days and feels better sleeping when the TV is going. Lately I too have been feeling better, for which I am happy. I'm listening to myself and the body, so if I have to take it easy, I do. (note - if I can take it easy, sometimes I can't and THAT is not a real good day for me) Good going, Sandy! "Experts" are a dime a dozen, and people choose their expert :-) or what works for them. Sometimes. Sometimes people WANT to fit in with a plan or philosophy and it never sets well with them.

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:49 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, I have discovered that for now, falling asleep on my couch with tv on and then later going to bed, works pretty good. I'm sure the "experts" would say that is not a good way. Today I had another liver enzyme blood test done, my last for a while I hope. At least the new lab is clean, beautiful and you can make appointments(no waiting). Something I ate yesterday triggered my IBS which hasn't happened in a long time to this degree. I probably had to much fresh fruit, veggies, and lettuce in my salad. It'll pass(pun intended) but right now I am somewhat uncomfortable. I was planning on going to the club house to play Wii bowling with my friends. Not sure I will make it. I only got to the beach once this year back in April. It has just been too hot. We are finally into our summer afternoon T-storm pattern. Grateful for rain. Well got to go to bowling. Sandy

Sometimes, in order for me to get a "good night's sleep," I have to be really really tired, Sandy. And if I get excited from the internet, I tend to keep awake longer than other times. :-) how's your day going? It is sunny here so far, we almost made it to the beach but something came up that prevented me from going. :-( oh well, life's circumstances. Hope all is well. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 7:00 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, and I thought I was a night owl! Sandy

I'm lookin' at Syfo now on the windowsill by my chair, Sandy, Lemon Lime flavor. :-) Tai (time for me to start pulling up stakes and getting into the bed.)

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:52 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, I get this product at Publix stores called Syfo naturally flavored sparkling water. It contains no sodium calories or sugar. Not sure about the phosphorus. It's not mentioned anywhere on the bottle. I see it is distributed from Leesburg, Florida so maybe it's a local thing. I like the tangerine flavored but they also have lemon/lime and I think cherry? Sandy

Well, I do enjoy seltzer sometimes, Sandy. Someone told me it's not good for me because of the phosphorous, or something like that, but hey, I'm still eating hamburgers (not often though), I'm not gonna stop with seltzer or diet sodas, lol. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:36 PM Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, I think I am addicted to the carbonation more than anything. Sandy

I notice after drinking soda, my bladder usually argues with me. I've been drinking diet sodas for years, but now I rarely drink soda with caffeine in it. But I do love non-caffeinated diet coke or pepsi. Years ago I tried Minute Maid Diet Lemonade drink, and I loved it, but about 4 minutes after drinking it I'd have to RUSH to the bathroom and so I avoid that like the plague because I know what will happen. Something they put in it. But I agree with you, diet sodas are probably not my bladder's friend. When I came home today, I ran for a non-caffeinated diet pepsi which I just bought on sale, and it didn't taste that great but I had it anyway because I will not drink sugar sodas, or substitutes like the health junk they put out there, I'm probably stuck on the non-caffeinated diet sodas. If they stopped making that, I'd go through withdrawal. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:17 PM Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, When I drink too much soda, I forget to drink water and then my bladder complains. Sandy

Katcha, I have read things about water and electrolytes. Too much water is dangerous, that's true. But how much is too much? I keep a few bottles of water near me but I'm not constantly drinking. The reason I started drinking more water is when I developed bladder infections and realized I must drink more water because I wouldn't drink that much. If I had known this as a kid, maybe I wouldn't have had so many bladder infections and bouts with stones. No, I do not think that a normal amount whatever that is, will wash out electrolytes from the body. When we were traveling I noticed that some areas have tastier water than others. I didn't want the water that didn't taste good. I use filters now and I like them, but our normal water supply isn't bad. Cool water I find to be more refreshing than lukewarm water. I also like seltzer water sometimes. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:43 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Katcha, thanks for that info on the salt, although I do eat probably too much salt. I too find my mouth feels dry and was blaming it on maybe the plastic bottles(trying thermos), but also wonder if because I drink/sip it all the time maybe I have interfered with my body's ability to make saliva. When I have diet soda, especially with caffeine like when we go out, my mouth feels like it is "burning". That's one reason I don't drink it at home. Sandy

Tai, my struggles with water run deep. First I'm not all that fond of plain water. Like you, a slice or dash of lemon goes a long way towards making it 'tasty'. Secondly my thirst signals must have been 'disowned' for even longer than my hunger signs as I still never really feel 'thirsty', only dry. About the only way I have been able to keep better hydrated is to have several small water bottles filled and at places around that house that I hang out at (computer!). That has helped me to drink water when I otherwise wouldn't even think about it. Another 'odd' thing that I find when I drink water is that I can get drier! When my mouth is dry but bladder is overflowing what I need is salt. I do not eat hardly any 'processed' food (scratch cook) and tend to be lighter on salt when cooking since one can always add it. When I get drier after drinking water, having the merest bit of salt helps my body go 'ahhh!' like dry ground does to rain. I think its

possible that my drinking too much plain water actually flushes excessive electrolytes?!? So water drinking has become an 'art form' for me ;-)

KatchaIEing since March 2007

>

> Katcha, when I go to a restaurant I always order water with lemon with my meal. Anyway, it's cheaper than soda or something like that. And the water just looks so good and it's so cool that I love to drink it, usually! Sometimes I don't drink as much as I would like because I know I'm paying for the meal, not the water, and I don't want to fill up. But if you're waiting for your nose & throat to be dry, you're waiting too long. Hint: that's how kidney stones, etc., are formed when we don't drink enough wa-wa. Also, I put a Brita personal bottle in the refrigerator so I can take it to the computer and TV with me when I'm sittin' around. Now that we're talking about it, I think I'm going to get some water next trip. With love, Tai

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sounds good to me, Sandy. That is why sometimes I wait to go to bed until I'm really really tired. I remember when I was working and had to get up early, boy, did I get anxiety over that, but I would force myself to because I TaiTo:

IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:41 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, the past month I have just decided to go with it. Sandy

Sandy, listen to the body talking. My very bestest of friends in this world also keeps the TV going all night, it keeps her company. She works days and feels better sleeping when the TV is going. Lately I too have been feeling better, for which I am happy. I'm listening to myself and the body, so if I have to take it easy, I do. (note - if I can take it easy, sometimes I can't and THAT is not a real good day for me) Good going, Sandy! "Experts" are a dime a dozen, and people choose their expert :-) or what works for them. Sometimes. Sometimes people WANT to fit in with a plan or philosophy and it never sets well with them.

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:49 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, I have discovered that for now, falling asleep on my couch with tv on and then later going to bed, works pretty good. I'm sure the "experts" would say that is not a good way. Today I had another liver enzyme blood test done, my last for a while I hope. At least the new lab is clean, beautiful and you can make appointments(no waiting). Something I ate yesterday triggered my IBS which hasn't happened in a long time to this degree. I probably had to much fresh fruit, veggies, and lettuce in my salad. It'll pass(pun intended) but right now I am somewhat uncomfortable. I was planning on going to the club house to play Wii bowling with my friends. Not sure I will make it. I only got to the beach once this year back in April. It has just been too hot. We are finally into our summer afternoon T-storm pattern. Grateful for rain. Well got to go to bowling. Sandy

Sometimes, in order for me to get a "good night's sleep," I have to be really really tired, Sandy. And if I get excited from the internet, I tend to keep awake longer than other times. :-) how's your day going? It is sunny here so far, we almost made it to the beach but something came up that prevented me from going. :-( oh well, life's circumstances. Hope all is well. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 7:00 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, and I thought I was a night owl! Sandy

I'm lookin' at Syfo now on the windowsill by my chair, Sandy, Lemon Lime flavor. :-) Tai (time for me to start pulling up stakes and getting into the bed.)

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:52 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, I get this product at Publix stores called Syfo naturally flavored sparkling water. It contains no sodium calories or sugar. Not sure about the phosphorus. It's not mentioned anywhere on the bottle. I see it is distributed from Leesburg, Florida so maybe it's a local thing. I like the tangerine flavored but they also have lemon/lime and I think cherry? Sandy

Well, I do enjoy seltzer sometimes, Sandy. Someone told me it's not good for me because of the phosphorous, or something like that, but hey, I'm still eating hamburgers (not often though), I'm not gonna stop with seltzer or diet sodas, lol. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:36 PM Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, I think I am addicted to the carbonation more than anything. Sandy

I notice after drinking soda, my bladder usually argues with me. I've been drinking diet sodas for years, but now I rarely drink soda with caffeine in it. But I do love non-caffeinated diet coke or pepsi. Years ago I tried Minute Maid Diet Lemonade drink, and I loved it, but about 4 minutes after drinking it I'd have to RUSH to the bathroom and so I avoid that like the plague because I know what will happen. Something they put in it. But I agree with you, diet sodas are probably not my bladder's friend. When I came home today, I ran for a non-caffeinated diet pepsi which I just bought on sale, and it didn't taste that great but I had it anyway because I will not drink sugar sodas, or substitutes like the health junk they put out there, I'm probably stuck on the non-caffeinated diet sodas. If they stopped making that, I'd go through withdrawal. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:17 PM Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, When I drink too much soda, I forget to drink water and then my bladder complains. Sandy

Katcha, I have read things about water and electrolytes. Too much water is dangerous, that's true. But how much is too much? I keep a few bottles of water near me but I'm not constantly drinking. The reason I started drinking more water is when I developed bladder infections and realized I must drink more water because I wouldn't drink that much. If I had known this as a kid, maybe I wouldn't have had so many bladder infections and bouts with stones. No, I do not think that a normal amount whatever that is, will wash out electrolytes from the body. When we were traveling I noticed that some areas have tastier water than others. I didn't want the water that didn't taste good. I use filters now and I like them, but our normal water supply isn't bad. Cool water I find to be more refreshing than lukewarm water. I also like seltzer water sometimes. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:43 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Katcha, thanks for that info on the salt, although I do eat probably too much salt. I too find my mouth feels dry and was blaming it on maybe the plastic bottles(trying thermos), but also wonder if because I drink/sip it all the time maybe I have interfered with my body's ability to make saliva. When I have diet soda, especially with caffeine like when we go out, my mouth feels like it is "burning". That's one reason I don't drink it at home. Sandy

Tai, my struggles with water run deep. First I'm not all that fond of plain water. Like you, a slice or dash of lemon goes a long way towards making it 'tasty'. Secondly my thirst signals must have been 'disowned' for even longer than my hunger signs as I still never really feel 'thirsty', only dry. About the only way I have been able to keep better hydrated is to have several small water bottles filled and at places around that house that I hang out at (computer!). That has helped me to drink water when I otherwise wouldn't even think about it. Another 'odd' thing that I find when I drink water is that I can get drier! When my mouth is dry but bladder is overflowing what I need is salt. I do not eat hardly any 'processed' food (scratch cook) and tend to be lighter on salt when cooking since one can always add it. When I get drier after drinking water, having the merest bit of salt helps my body go 'ahhh!' like dry ground does to rain. I think its

possible that my drinking too much plain water actually flushes excessive electrolytes?!? So water drinking has become an 'art form' for me ;-)

KatchaIEing since March 2007

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> Katcha, when I go to a restaurant I always order water with lemon with my meal. Anyway, it's cheaper than soda or something like that. And the water just looks so good and it's so cool that I love to drink it, usually! Sometimes I don't drink as much as I would like because I know I'm paying for the meal, not the water, and I don't want to fill up. But if you're waiting for your nose & throat to be dry, you're waiting too long. Hint: that's how kidney stones, etc., are formed when we don't drink enough wa-wa. Also, I put a Brita personal bottle in the refrigerator so I can take it to the computer and TV with me when I'm sittin' around. Now that we're talking about it, I think I'm going to get some water next trip. With love, Tai

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sounds good to me, Sandy. That is why sometimes I wait to go to bed until I'm really really tired. I remember when I was working and had to get up early, boy, did I get anxiety over that, but I would force myself to because I TaiTo:

IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:41 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, the past month I have just decided to go with it. Sandy

Sandy, listen to the body talking. My very bestest of friends in this world also keeps the TV going all night, it keeps her company. She works days and feels better sleeping when the TV is going. Lately I too have been feeling better, for which I am happy. I'm listening to myself and the body, so if I have to take it easy, I do. (note - if I can take it easy, sometimes I can't and THAT is not a real good day for me) Good going, Sandy! "Experts" are a dime a dozen, and people choose their expert :-) or what works for them. Sometimes. Sometimes people WANT to fit in with a plan or philosophy and it never sets well with them.

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:49 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, I have discovered that for now, falling asleep on my couch with tv on and then later going to bed, works pretty good. I'm sure the "experts" would say that is not a good way. Today I had another liver enzyme blood test done, my last for a while I hope. At least the new lab is clean, beautiful and you can make appointments(no waiting). Something I ate yesterday triggered my IBS which hasn't happened in a long time to this degree. I probably had to much fresh fruit, veggies, and lettuce in my salad. It'll pass(pun intended) but right now I am somewhat uncomfortable. I was planning on going to the club house to play Wii bowling with my friends. Not sure I will make it. I only got to the beach once this year back in April. It has just been too hot. We are finally into our summer afternoon T-storm pattern. Grateful for rain. Well got to go to bowling. Sandy

Sometimes, in order for me to get a "good night's sleep," I have to be really really tired, Sandy. And if I get excited from the internet, I tend to keep awake longer than other times. :-) how's your day going? It is sunny here so far, we almost made it to the beach but something came up that prevented me from going. :-( oh well, life's circumstances. Hope all is well. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 7:00 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, and I thought I was a night owl! Sandy

I'm lookin' at Syfo now on the windowsill by my chair, Sandy, Lemon Lime flavor. :-) Tai (time for me to start pulling up stakes and getting into the bed.)

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:52 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, I get this product at Publix stores called Syfo naturally flavored sparkling water. It contains no sodium calories or sugar. Not sure about the phosphorus. It's not mentioned anywhere on the bottle. I see it is distributed from Leesburg, Florida so maybe it's a local thing. I like the tangerine flavored but they also have lemon/lime and I think cherry? Sandy

Well, I do enjoy seltzer sometimes, Sandy. Someone told me it's not good for me because of the phosphorous, or something like that, but hey, I'm still eating hamburgers (not often though), I'm not gonna stop with seltzer or diet sodas, lol. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:36 PM Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, I think I am addicted to the carbonation more than anything. Sandy

I notice after drinking soda, my bladder usually argues with me. I've been drinking diet sodas for years, but now I rarely drink soda with caffeine in it. But I do love non-caffeinated diet coke or pepsi. Years ago I tried Minute Maid Diet Lemonade drink, and I loved it, but about 4 minutes after drinking it I'd have to RUSH to the bathroom and so I avoid that like the plague because I know what will happen. Something they put in it. But I agree with you, diet sodas are probably not my bladder's friend. When I came home today, I ran for a non-caffeinated diet pepsi which I just bought on sale, and it didn't taste that great but I had it anyway because I will not drink sugar sodas, or substitutes like the health junk they put out there, I'm probably stuck on the non-caffeinated diet sodas. If they stopped making that, I'd go through withdrawal. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:17 PM Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Tai, When I drink too much soda, I forget to drink water and then my bladder complains. Sandy

Katcha, I have read things about water and electrolytes. Too much water is dangerous, that's true. But how much is too much? I keep a few bottles of water near me but I'm not constantly drinking. The reason I started drinking more water is when I developed bladder infections and realized I must drink more water because I wouldn't drink that much. If I had known this as a kid, maybe I wouldn't have had so many bladder infections and bouts with stones. No, I do not think that a normal amount whatever that is, will wash out electrolytes from the body. When we were traveling I noticed that some areas have tastier water than others. I didn't want the water that didn't taste good. I use filters now and I like them, but our normal water supply isn't bad. Cool water I find to be more refreshing than lukewarm water. I also like seltzer water sometimes. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:43 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hunger vs. thirst

Katcha, thanks for that info on the salt, although I do eat probably too much salt. I too find my mouth feels dry and was blaming it on maybe the plastic bottles(trying thermos), but also wonder if because I drink/sip it all the time maybe I have interfered with my body's ability to make saliva. When I have diet soda, especially with caffeine like when we go out, my mouth feels like it is "burning". That's one reason I don't drink it at home. Sandy

Tai, my struggles with water run deep. First I'm not all that fond of plain water. Like you, a slice or dash of lemon goes a long way towards making it 'tasty'. Secondly my thirst signals must have been 'disowned' for even longer than my hunger signs as I still never really feel 'thirsty', only dry. About the only way I have been able to keep better hydrated is to have several small water bottles filled and at places around that house that I hang out at (computer!). That has helped me to drink water when I otherwise wouldn't even think about it. Another 'odd' thing that I find when I drink water is that I can get drier! When my mouth is dry but bladder is overflowing what I need is salt. I do not eat hardly any 'processed' food (scratch cook) and tend to be lighter on salt when cooking since one can always add it. When I get drier after drinking water, having the merest bit of salt helps my body go 'ahhh!' like dry ground does to rain. I think its

possible that my drinking too much plain water actually flushes excessive electrolytes?!? So water drinking has become an 'art form' for me ;-)

KatchaIEing since March 2007

>

> Katcha, when I go to a restaurant I always order water with lemon with my meal. Anyway, it's cheaper than soda or something like that. And the water just looks so good and it's so cool that I love to drink it, usually! Sometimes I don't drink as much as I would like because I know I'm paying for the meal, not the water, and I don't want to fill up. But if you're waiting for your nose & throat to be dry, you're waiting too long. Hint: that's how kidney stones, etc., are formed when we don't drink enough wa-wa. Also, I put a Brita personal bottle in the refrigerator so I can take it to the computer and TV with me when I'm sittin' around. Now that we're talking about it, I think I'm going to get some water next trip. With love, Tai

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Sandy, let me finish that (my computer is acting up so it went off before I meant it to) -- I would force myself to toss and turn and half-sleep all night because I had to get up in the morning and go to work. :-) I no longer have to do that so I can listen to my body on this matter. :-) It's kinda nice. Tai

Tai, my struggles with water run deep. First I'm not all that fond of plain water. Like you, a slice or dash of lemon goes a long way towards making it 'tasty'. Secondly my thirst signals must have been 'disowned' for even longer than my hunger signs as I still never really feel 'thirsty', only dry. About the only way I have been able to keep better hydrated is to have several small water bottles filled and at places around that house that I hang out at (computer!). That has helped me to drink water when I otherwise wouldn't even think about it. Another 'odd' thing that I find when I drink water is that I can get drier! When my mouth is dry but bladder is overflowing what I need is salt. I do not eat hardly any 'processed' food (scratch cook) and tend to be lighter on salt when cooking since one can always add it. When I get drier after drinking water, having the merest bit of salt helps my body go 'ahhh!' like dry ground does to rain. I think its

possible that my drinking too much plain water actually flushes excessive electrolytes?!? So water drinking has become an 'art form' for me ;-)

KatchaIEing since March 2007

>

> Katcha, when I go to a restaurant I always order water with lemon with my meal. Anyway, it's cheaper than soda or something like that. And the water just looks so good and it's so cool that I love to drink it, usually! Sometimes I don't drink as much as I would like because I know I'm paying for the meal, not the water, and I don't want to fill up. But if you're waiting for your nose & throat to be dry, you're waiting too long. Hint: that's how kidney stones, etc., are formed when we don't drink enough wa-wa. Also, I put a Brita personal bottle in the refrigerator so I can take it to the computer and TV with me when I'm sittin' around. Now that we're talking about it, I think I'm going to get some water next trip. With love, Tai

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