Guest guest Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 I've been working on IE for a few weeks now. I'm still in the wanting junk food stage. I believe I'm still in it because I still deny myself it sometimes. I find that I'm denying myself the junk because I can't bare the thought of my 3 kids seeing me eat ice cream for lunch! All these years I've drilled in them on trying to eat healthy (but still allowing them junk and not making them clean their plates..ugh!) but how do I explain why I'm eating junk all the time? I can't even imagine what they'd think if I sat down at dinner with a plate of cookie dough! lol! I feel like I'd be showing them a horrible example! Not that being overweight is a great example! I just really don't know how to deal with it! Thanks, Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 So Barb have you completely stocked your freezer with lots of ice cream in all your favourite flavours?? And loaded your pantry with plenty of your other treats? I think the thing is to have PLENTY on site - then there is no feeling of scarcity - that way the need to binge is dealt to - there's plenty if you want it - and pretty soon your body will yell at you for something else. Maybe it's time to get the kids a load of their favourites too so that they can do the same. Demystifying the food has helped me. > > I've been working on IE for a few weeks now. I'm still in the wanting junk food stage. I believe I'm still in it because I still deny myself it sometimes. I find that I'm denying myself the junk because I can't bare the thought of my 3 kids seeing me eat ice cream for lunch! All these years I've drilled in them on trying to eat healthy (but still allowing them junk and not making them clean their plates..ugh!) but how do I explain why I'm eating junk all the time? I can't even imagine what they'd think if I sat down at dinner with a plate of cookie dough! lol! I feel like I'd be showing them a horrible example! Not that being overweight is a great example! I just really don't know how to deal with it! > > Thanks, > Barb > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 I don't have kids so haven't dealt with that myself. Some time back a few members mentioned this author and seemed to think highly of her and what she had to say. Ellyn Satter - www.ellynsatter.com Child of Mine: Feeding with Love and Good Sense How to Get Your Kid to Eat: But Not Too Much Your Child's Weight: Helping without Harming Secrets of Feeding a Healthy Family If anyone one else here has feedback on this, I'd really like to have that to add to those already on the Book List. Thanks, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I've been working on IE for a few weeks now. I'm still in the wanting junk food stage. I believe I'm still in it because I still deny myself it sometimes. I find that I'm denying myself the junk because I can't bare the thought of my 3 kids seeing me eat ice cream for lunch! All these years I've drilled in them on trying to eat healthy (but still allowing them junk and not making them clean their plates..ugh!) but how do I explain why I'm eating junk all the time? I can't even imagine what they'd think if I sat down at dinner with a plate of cookie dough! lol! I feel like I'd be showing them a horrible example! Not that being overweight is a great example! I just really don't know how to deal with it! > > Thanks, > Barb > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Great question, Barb! Last night I wasn't hungry at dinner time, so I cooked for my family, then didn't join them. My kids were flipped-out! My husband kept telling them Mother wasn't hungry, but they did not get what that had to do with anything, although they weren't able to articulate that. Sad but true. How have others handled the kiddo issue? It's an important thing for us to eat together as a family, but frankly, I don't think I can sit at the table and smell their food and not eat, at this point. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 I do have favorites in the freezer. The other day we were at the store and my kids love these refrigerated brownie bites and so do I. We got a bag of them, well I ate a couple for breakfast one morning and had some for lunch but before you know it the bag was gone in a couple days and my kids were like "where did they all go?" I was to embarrassed to admit how I had eaten them. I did only eat them when hungry. I mean I would never let my kids eat them for breakfast but if they see me do it then how can I say "no"? That's where I am w/ all this. I feel like I need to eat while hiding so they don't see how unhealthy I'm eating right now. Barb Subject: Re: Explaining to Kids..To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 4:35 PM So Barb have you completely stocked your freezer with lots of ice cream in all your favourite flavours?? And loaded your pantry with plenty of your other treats? I think the thing is to have PLENTY on site - then there is no feeling of scarcity - that way the need to binge is dealt to - there's plenty if you want it - and pretty soon your body will yell at you for something else. Maybe it's time to get the kids a load of their favourites too so that they can do the same. Demystifying the food has helped me.>> I've been working on IE for a few weeks now. I'm still in the wanting junk food stage. I believe I'm still in it because I still deny myself it sometimes. I find that I'm denying myself the junk because I can't bare the thought of my 3 kids seeing me eat ice cream for lunch! All these years I've drilled in them on trying to eat healthy (but still allowing them junk and not making them clean their plates..ugh!) but how do I explain why I'm eating junk all the time? I can't even imagine what they'd think if I sat down at dinner with a plate of cookie dough! lol! I feel like I'd be showing them a horrible example! Not that being overweight is a great example! I just really don't know how to deal with it!> > Thanks,> Barb> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 I mean I would never let my kids eat them for breakfast but if they see me do it then how can I say "no"? That's where I am w/ all this. I feel like I need to eat while hiding so they don't see how unhealthy I'm eating right now. That's not very IE. I also used to control my kids' food habits. Now I grant them the same rights that I have. If they want (say) cake for breakfast, that's OK. The only thing is that I ask them to have some fruit or vegetables every day, and to stay hydrated. My kids have learned to listen to their bodies -- not that they always choose to do so! When you stop hiding and feeling shame for your food choices, the food loses its power over you, and you regain the power to choose. If you permit yourself to eat brownie bits whenever you want and in any quantity, the "allure of the forbidden" disappears and you start to get sick of them. Well, that's what happened with me (and my kids). Paddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 I mean I would never let my kids eat them for breakfast but if they see me do it then how can I say "no"? That's where I am w/ all this. I feel like I need to eat while hiding so they don't see how unhealthy I'm eating right now. That's not very IE. I also used to control my kids' food habits. Now I grant them the same rights that I have. If they want (say) cake for breakfast, that's OK. The only thing is that I ask them to have some fruit or vegetables every day, and to stay hydrated. My kids have learned to listen to their bodies -- not that they always choose to do so! When you stop hiding and feeling shame for your food choices, the food loses its power over you, and you regain the power to choose. If you permit yourself to eat brownie bits whenever you want and in any quantity, the "allure of the forbidden" disappears and you start to get sick of them. Well, that's what happened with me (and my kids). Paddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 I mean I would never let my kids eat them for breakfast but if they see me do it then how can I say "no"? That's where I am w/ all this. I feel like I need to eat while hiding so they don't see how unhealthy I'm eating right now. That's not very IE. I also used to control my kids' food habits. Now I grant them the same rights that I have. If they want (say) cake for breakfast, that's OK. The only thing is that I ask them to have some fruit or vegetables every day, and to stay hydrated. My kids have learned to listen to their bodies -- not that they always choose to do so! When you stop hiding and feeling shame for your food choices, the food loses its power over you, and you regain the power to choose. If you permit yourself to eat brownie bits whenever you want and in any quantity, the "allure of the forbidden" disappears and you start to get sick of them. Well, that's what happened with me (and my kids). Paddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Barb it seems to me that your concern is your shame not what you are eating. This could have been carrots! Isn't it interesting that we can be shamed by eating? I say go out and buy bags and bags of these brownie bites having them available to everyone, especially yourself. I bet you soon find that you loose interest in them. This is the legalization process suggested by IE and most other non dieting authors. You will one day see 'food as food', but something 'good vs. bad'. Tags like 'healthy' support a distinction that really your body can and will tell you if you give it a chance. Now you have sparked a brownie baking urge for me - thanks! It has been too long since I made these for us. ENJOY and most of all TRUST yourself. You can do it and I can't wait until I read that you discover this for yourself too. BEST to you, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I do have favorites in the freezer. The other day we were at the store and my kids love these refrigerated brownie bites and so do I. We got a bag of them, well I ate a couple for breakfast one morning and had some for lunch but before you know it the bag was gone in a couple days and my kids were like " where did they all go? " I was to embarrassed to admit how I had eaten them. I did only eat them when hungry. I mean I would never let my kids eat them for breakfast but if they see me do it then how can I say " no " ? That's where I am w/ all this. I feel like I need to eat while hiding so they don't see how unhealthy I'm eating right now. >  > Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Barb it seems to me that your concern is your shame not what you are eating. This could have been carrots! Isn't it interesting that we can be shamed by eating? I say go out and buy bags and bags of these brownie bites having them available to everyone, especially yourself. I bet you soon find that you loose interest in them. This is the legalization process suggested by IE and most other non dieting authors. You will one day see 'food as food', but something 'good vs. bad'. Tags like 'healthy' support a distinction that really your body can and will tell you if you give it a chance. Now you have sparked a brownie baking urge for me - thanks! It has been too long since I made these for us. ENJOY and most of all TRUST yourself. You can do it and I can't wait until I read that you discover this for yourself too. BEST to you, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I do have favorites in the freezer. The other day we were at the store and my kids love these refrigerated brownie bites and so do I. We got a bag of them, well I ate a couple for breakfast one morning and had some for lunch but before you know it the bag was gone in a couple days and my kids were like " where did they all go? " I was to embarrassed to admit how I had eaten them. I did only eat them when hungry. I mean I would never let my kids eat them for breakfast but if they see me do it then how can I say " no " ? That's where I am w/ all this. I feel like I need to eat while hiding so they don't see how unhealthy I'm eating right now. >  > Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Barb it seems to me that your concern is your shame not what you are eating. This could have been carrots! Isn't it interesting that we can be shamed by eating? I say go out and buy bags and bags of these brownie bites having them available to everyone, especially yourself. I bet you soon find that you loose interest in them. This is the legalization process suggested by IE and most other non dieting authors. You will one day see 'food as food', but something 'good vs. bad'. Tags like 'healthy' support a distinction that really your body can and will tell you if you give it a chance. Now you have sparked a brownie baking urge for me - thanks! It has been too long since I made these for us. ENJOY and most of all TRUST yourself. You can do it and I can't wait until I read that you discover this for yourself too. BEST to you, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I do have favorites in the freezer. The other day we were at the store and my kids love these refrigerated brownie bites and so do I. We got a bag of them, well I ate a couple for breakfast one morning and had some for lunch but before you know it the bag was gone in a couple days and my kids were like " where did they all go? " I was to embarrassed to admit how I had eaten them. I did only eat them when hungry. I mean I would never let my kids eat them for breakfast but if they see me do it then how can I say " no " ? That's where I am w/ all this. I feel like I need to eat while hiding so they don't see how unhealthy I'm eating right now. >  > Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 " You will one day see 'food as food', but something 'good vs. bad'. " should have read " You will one day see 'food as food', NOT something 'good vs. bad'. " Sorry if I confused. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Barb it seems to me that your concern is your shame not what you are eating. This could have been carrots! Isn't it interesting that we can be shamed by eating? I say go out and buy bags and bags of these brownie bites having them available to everyone, especially yourself. I bet you soon find that you loose interest in them. This is the legalization process suggested by IE and most other non dieting authors. You will one day see 'food as food', but something 'good vs. bad'. Tags like 'healthy' support a distinction that really your body can and will tell you if you give it a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 I'm with you Paddy - it's lovely to sit down with a coffee and a piece of cake or chocolate and to really savour it - tastes so much better than when it's sneaked. I'm trying to do IE with the kids too - even tho they are only toddlers - just not mad about icecream eaten 5 minutes before dinner - so they have it after - I know not perfect but babysteps. > > > I mean I would never let my kids eat them for breakfast but if > > they see me do it then how can I say " no " ? That's where I am w/ > > all this. I feel like I need to eat while hiding so they don't > > see how unhealthy I'm eating right now. > > That's not very IE. > > I also used to control my kids' food habits. Now I grant them the > same rights that I have. If they want (say) cake for breakfast, > that's OK. The only thing is that I ask them to have some fruit > or vegetables every day, and to stay hydrated. > > My kids have learned to listen to their bodies -- not that they > always choose to do so! > > When you stop hiding and feeling shame for your food choices, the > food loses its power over you, and you regain the power to > choose. If you permit yourself to eat brownie bits whenever you > want and in any quantity, the " allure of the forbidden " > disappears and you start to get sick of them. Well, that's what > happened with me (and my kids). > > Paddy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2011 Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 You are, of course, right, Katcha. I was so hungry when we went to the spermarket today while on vacation, and they had one of my most delicious foods staring at me -- olive salad and the like, etc. Hmmm, I thought, so I bought some and ate it in the car before we went to dinner. My husband then decided he was hungry and I said I no longer was hungry. But I relented, going against my best interests, and decided to eat with him because when else and what would I eat later in the motel room? Also, I don't necessarily like eating by myself. It's so much more fun to eat with someone especially in a restaurant with people. So unfortunately I ate when I was not hungry. I did eat when I wanted (kind of), even decided to throw caution to the winds by having dessert because I still had 'room' and wanted it, do I feel guilty? I don't know. I think I hate myself now, isn't that the expression? TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 11:17 AMSubject: Re: Explaining to Kids.. Barb it seems to me that your concern is your shame not what you are eating. This could have been carrots! Isn't it interesting that we can be shamed by eating? I say go out and buy bags and bags of these brownie bites having them available to everyone, especially yourself. I bet you soon find that you loose interest in them. This is the legalization process suggested by IE and most other non dieting authors. You will one day see 'food as food', but something 'good vs. bad'. Tags like 'healthy' support a distinction that really your body can and will tell you if you give it a chance. Now you have sparked a brownie baking urge for me - thanks! It has been too long since I made these for us. ENJOY and most of all TRUST yourself. You can do it and I can't wait until I read that you discover this for yourself too. BEST to you, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I do have favorites in the freezer. The other day we were at the store and my kids love these refrigerated brownie bites and so do I. We got a bag of them, well I ate a couple for breakfast one morning and had some for lunch but before you know it the bag was gone in a couple days and my kids were like "where did they all go?" I was to embarrassed to admit how I had eaten them. I did only eat them when hungry. I mean I would never let my kids eat them for breakfast but if they see me do it then how can I say "no"? That's where I am w/ all this. I feel like I need to eat while hiding so they don't see how unhealthy I'm eating right now. > Â > Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2011 Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 You are, of course, right, Katcha. I was so hungry when we went to the spermarket today while on vacation, and they had one of my most delicious foods staring at me -- olive salad and the like, etc. Hmmm, I thought, so I bought some and ate it in the car before we went to dinner. My husband then decided he was hungry and I said I no longer was hungry. But I relented, going against my best interests, and decided to eat with him because when else and what would I eat later in the motel room? Also, I don't necessarily like eating by myself. It's so much more fun to eat with someone especially in a restaurant with people. So unfortunately I ate when I was not hungry. I did eat when I wanted (kind of), even decided to throw caution to the winds by having dessert because I still had 'room' and wanted it, do I feel guilty? I don't know. I think I hate myself now, isn't that the expression? TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 11:17 AMSubject: Re: Explaining to Kids.. Barb it seems to me that your concern is your shame not what you are eating. This could have been carrots! Isn't it interesting that we can be shamed by eating? I say go out and buy bags and bags of these brownie bites having them available to everyone, especially yourself. I bet you soon find that you loose interest in them. This is the legalization process suggested by IE and most other non dieting authors. You will one day see 'food as food', but something 'good vs. bad'. Tags like 'healthy' support a distinction that really your body can and will tell you if you give it a chance. Now you have sparked a brownie baking urge for me - thanks! It has been too long since I made these for us. ENJOY and most of all TRUST yourself. You can do it and I can't wait until I read that you discover this for yourself too. BEST to you, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I do have favorites in the freezer. The other day we were at the store and my kids love these refrigerated brownie bites and so do I. We got a bag of them, well I ate a couple for breakfast one morning and had some for lunch but before you know it the bag was gone in a couple days and my kids were like "where did they all go?" I was to embarrassed to admit how I had eaten them. I did only eat them when hungry. I mean I would never let my kids eat them for breakfast but if they see me do it then how can I say "no"? That's where I am w/ all this. I feel like I need to eat while hiding so they don't see how unhealthy I'm eating right now. > Â > Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2011 Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 You are, of course, right, Katcha. I was so hungry when we went to the spermarket today while on vacation, and they had one of my most delicious foods staring at me -- olive salad and the like, etc. Hmmm, I thought, so I bought some and ate it in the car before we went to dinner. My husband then decided he was hungry and I said I no longer was hungry. But I relented, going against my best interests, and decided to eat with him because when else and what would I eat later in the motel room? Also, I don't necessarily like eating by myself. It's so much more fun to eat with someone especially in a restaurant with people. So unfortunately I ate when I was not hungry. I did eat when I wanted (kind of), even decided to throw caution to the winds by having dessert because I still had 'room' and wanted it, do I feel guilty? I don't know. I think I hate myself now, isn't that the expression? TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 11:17 AMSubject: Re: Explaining to Kids.. Barb it seems to me that your concern is your shame not what you are eating. This could have been carrots! Isn't it interesting that we can be shamed by eating? I say go out and buy bags and bags of these brownie bites having them available to everyone, especially yourself. I bet you soon find that you loose interest in them. This is the legalization process suggested by IE and most other non dieting authors. You will one day see 'food as food', but something 'good vs. bad'. Tags like 'healthy' support a distinction that really your body can and will tell you if you give it a chance. Now you have sparked a brownie baking urge for me - thanks! It has been too long since I made these for us. ENJOY and most of all TRUST yourself. You can do it and I can't wait until I read that you discover this for yourself too. BEST to you, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I do have favorites in the freezer. The other day we were at the store and my kids love these refrigerated brownie bites and so do I. We got a bag of them, well I ate a couple for breakfast one morning and had some for lunch but before you know it the bag was gone in a couple days and my kids were like "where did they all go?" I was to embarrassed to admit how I had eaten them. I did only eat them when hungry. I mean I would never let my kids eat them for breakfast but if they see me do it then how can I say "no"? That's where I am w/ all this. I feel like I need to eat while hiding so they don't see how unhealthy I'm eating right now. > Â > Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2011 Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 I remember hearing Joan Rivers talk about her diet years ago. She eats maybe 1,000 calories a day to keep slim. 1,000 calories a day, can you imagine that? I can't. But she's thin and I am not. Meantime, she was eating a cheese danish in front of her interviewer and said, "That's it. This piece of pastry is my calorie allotment for the day. That's all I will eat." Today I ate 3 pieces of danish in the morning (we're at a motel, my husband brought me the three pieces, I would have only taken TWO for myself, not THREE, I would NEVER eat that at home...), had lunch, then had dinner zillions of calories. sob sob sob and more sob. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 8:58 AMSubject: Re: Re: Explaining to Kids.. I mean I would never let my kids eat them for breakfast but if they see me do it then how can I say "no"? That's where I am w/ all this. I feel like I need to eat while hiding so they don't see how unhealthy I'm eating right now. That's not very IE. I also used to control my kids' food habits. Now I grant them the same rights that I have. If they want (say) cake for breakfast, that's OK. The only thing is that I ask them to have some fruit or vegetables every day, and to stay hydrated. My kids have learned to listen to their bodies -- not that they always choose to do so! When you stop hiding and feeling shame for your food choices, the food loses its power over you, and you regain the power to choose. If you permit yourself to eat brownie bits whenever you want and in any quantity, the "allure of the forbidden" disappears and you start to get sick of them. Well, that's what happened with me (and my kids). Paddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2011 Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 I remember hearing Joan Rivers talk about her diet years ago. She eats maybe 1,000 calories a day to keep slim. 1,000 calories a day, can you imagine that? I can't. But she's thin and I am not. Meantime, she was eating a cheese danish in front of her interviewer and said, "That's it. This piece of pastry is my calorie allotment for the day. That's all I will eat." Today I ate 3 pieces of danish in the morning (we're at a motel, my husband brought me the three pieces, I would have only taken TWO for myself, not THREE, I would NEVER eat that at home...), had lunch, then had dinner zillions of calories. sob sob sob and more sob. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 8:58 AMSubject: Re: Re: Explaining to Kids.. I mean I would never let my kids eat them for breakfast but if they see me do it then how can I say "no"? That's where I am w/ all this. I feel like I need to eat while hiding so they don't see how unhealthy I'm eating right now. That's not very IE. I also used to control my kids' food habits. Now I grant them the same rights that I have. If they want (say) cake for breakfast, that's OK. The only thing is that I ask them to have some fruit or vegetables every day, and to stay hydrated. My kids have learned to listen to their bodies -- not that they always choose to do so! When you stop hiding and feeling shame for your food choices, the food loses its power over you, and you regain the power to choose. If you permit yourself to eat brownie bits whenever you want and in any quantity, the "allure of the forbidden" disappears and you start to get sick of them. Well, that's what happened with me (and my kids). Paddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2011 Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 just not mad about icecream eaten 5 minutes before dinner - so they have it after - I know not perfect but babysteps. That's OK. They will learn by example. "It's OK to have ice cream, and it's a good idea to have some healthy food too." That sits much better than, "Ice cream is bad and other food is good" -- the diet mentality. Having said that, I went through a phase for many years where I preferred to have my dessert before my main course. So, maybe as an experiment, let your kids try it; a small helping of ice cream eaten slowly with enjoyment to whet their appetite... Paddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2011 Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 just not mad about icecream eaten 5 minutes before dinner - so they have it after - I know not perfect but babysteps. That's OK. They will learn by example. "It's OK to have ice cream, and it's a good idea to have some healthy food too." That sits much better than, "Ice cream is bad and other food is good" -- the diet mentality. Having said that, I went through a phase for many years where I preferred to have my dessert before my main course. So, maybe as an experiment, let your kids try it; a small helping of ice cream eaten slowly with enjoyment to whet their appetite... Paddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2011 Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 just not mad about icecream eaten 5 minutes before dinner - so they have it after - I know not perfect but babysteps. That's OK. They will learn by example. "It's OK to have ice cream, and it's a good idea to have some healthy food too." That sits much better than, "Ice cream is bad and other food is good" -- the diet mentality. Having said that, I went through a phase for many years where I preferred to have my dessert before my main course. So, maybe as an experiment, let your kids try it; a small helping of ice cream eaten slowly with enjoyment to whet their appetite... Paddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2011 Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 Tai, trying to notice those things, times without judgment is so difficult. I haven't learned how to do that too well yet. The other day after I got some stressful news, I stopped and bought candy bars, my favorite. I knew exactly what I was doing and gave myself permission. After eating one, which didn't taste as good as I thought it would, I had no desire to eat the other. But I know I can have it if I want. It is still sitting in plain view for days now and still I have no desire for it. Knowing I can though seems to have taken the " need " out of it at least for now. This is one of the first times I have really been able to not judge myself. Maybe there will be more. Sandy  You are, of course, right, Katcha. I was so hungry when we went to the spermarket today while on vacation, and they had one of my most delicious foods staring at me -- olive salad and the like, etc. Hmmm, I thought, so I bought some and ate it in the car before we went to dinner. My husband then decided he was hungry and I said I no longer was hungry. But I relented, going against my best interests, and decided to eat with him because when else and what would I eat later in the motel room? Also, I don't necessarily like eating by myself. It's so much more fun to eat with someone especially in a restaurant with people. So unfortunately I ate when I was not hungry. I did eat when I wanted (kind of), even decided to throw caution to the winds by having dessert because I still had 'room' and wanted it, do I feel guilty? I don't know. I think I hate myself now, isn't that the expression? Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 11:17 AMSubject: Re: Explaining to Kids..  Barb it seems to me that your concern is your shame not what you are eating. This could have been carrots! Isn't it interesting that we can be shamed by eating? I say go out and buy bags and bags of these brownie bites having them available to everyone, especially yourself. I bet you soon find that you loose interest in them. This is the legalization process suggested by IE and most other non dieting authors. You will one day see 'food as food', but something 'good vs. bad'. Tags like 'healthy' support a distinction that really your body can and will tell you if you give it a chance. Now you have sparked a brownie baking urge for me - thanks! It has been too long since I made these for us. ENJOY and most of all TRUST yourself. You can do it and I can't wait until I read that you discover this for yourself too. BEST to you, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I do have favorites in the freezer. The other day we were at the store and my kids love these refrigerated brownie bites and so do I. We got a bag of them, well I ate a couple for breakfast one morning and had some for lunch but before you know it the bag was gone in a couple days and my kids were like " where did they all go? " I was to embarrassed to admit how I had eaten them. I did only eat them when hungry. I mean I would never let my kids eat them for breakfast but if they see me do it then how can I say " no " ? That's where I am w/ all this. I feel like I need to eat while hiding so they don't see how unhealthy I'm eating right now. >  > Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2011 Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 Tai, trying to notice those things, times without judgment is so difficult. I haven't learned how to do that too well yet. The other day after I got some stressful news, I stopped and bought candy bars, my favorite. I knew exactly what I was doing and gave myself permission. After eating one, which didn't taste as good as I thought it would, I had no desire to eat the other. But I know I can have it if I want. It is still sitting in plain view for days now and still I have no desire for it. Knowing I can though seems to have taken the " need " out of it at least for now. This is one of the first times I have really been able to not judge myself. Maybe there will be more. Sandy  You are, of course, right, Katcha. I was so hungry when we went to the spermarket today while on vacation, and they had one of my most delicious foods staring at me -- olive salad and the like, etc. Hmmm, I thought, so I bought some and ate it in the car before we went to dinner. My husband then decided he was hungry and I said I no longer was hungry. But I relented, going against my best interests, and decided to eat with him because when else and what would I eat later in the motel room? Also, I don't necessarily like eating by myself. It's so much more fun to eat with someone especially in a restaurant with people. So unfortunately I ate when I was not hungry. I did eat when I wanted (kind of), even decided to throw caution to the winds by having dessert because I still had 'room' and wanted it, do I feel guilty? I don't know. I think I hate myself now, isn't that the expression? Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 11:17 AMSubject: Re: Explaining to Kids..  Barb it seems to me that your concern is your shame not what you are eating. This could have been carrots! Isn't it interesting that we can be shamed by eating? I say go out and buy bags and bags of these brownie bites having them available to everyone, especially yourself. I bet you soon find that you loose interest in them. This is the legalization process suggested by IE and most other non dieting authors. You will one day see 'food as food', but something 'good vs. bad'. Tags like 'healthy' support a distinction that really your body can and will tell you if you give it a chance. Now you have sparked a brownie baking urge for me - thanks! It has been too long since I made these for us. ENJOY and most of all TRUST yourself. You can do it and I can't wait until I read that you discover this for yourself too. BEST to you, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I do have favorites in the freezer. The other day we were at the store and my kids love these refrigerated brownie bites and so do I. We got a bag of them, well I ate a couple for breakfast one morning and had some for lunch but before you know it the bag was gone in a couple days and my kids were like " where did they all go? " I was to embarrassed to admit how I had eaten them. I did only eat them when hungry. I mean I would never let my kids eat them for breakfast but if they see me do it then how can I say " no " ? That's where I am w/ all this. I feel like I need to eat while hiding so they don't see how unhealthy I'm eating right now. >  > Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2011 Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 Tai, trying to notice those things, times without judgment is so difficult. I haven't learned how to do that too well yet. The other day after I got some stressful news, I stopped and bought candy bars, my favorite. I knew exactly what I was doing and gave myself permission. After eating one, which didn't taste as good as I thought it would, I had no desire to eat the other. But I know I can have it if I want. It is still sitting in plain view for days now and still I have no desire for it. Knowing I can though seems to have taken the " need " out of it at least for now. This is one of the first times I have really been able to not judge myself. Maybe there will be more. Sandy  You are, of course, right, Katcha. I was so hungry when we went to the spermarket today while on vacation, and they had one of my most delicious foods staring at me -- olive salad and the like, etc. Hmmm, I thought, so I bought some and ate it in the car before we went to dinner. My husband then decided he was hungry and I said I no longer was hungry. But I relented, going against my best interests, and decided to eat with him because when else and what would I eat later in the motel room? Also, I don't necessarily like eating by myself. It's so much more fun to eat with someone especially in a restaurant with people. So unfortunately I ate when I was not hungry. I did eat when I wanted (kind of), even decided to throw caution to the winds by having dessert because I still had 'room' and wanted it, do I feel guilty? I don't know. I think I hate myself now, isn't that the expression? Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 11:17 AMSubject: Re: Explaining to Kids..  Barb it seems to me that your concern is your shame not what you are eating. This could have been carrots! Isn't it interesting that we can be shamed by eating? I say go out and buy bags and bags of these brownie bites having them available to everyone, especially yourself. I bet you soon find that you loose interest in them. This is the legalization process suggested by IE and most other non dieting authors. You will one day see 'food as food', but something 'good vs. bad'. Tags like 'healthy' support a distinction that really your body can and will tell you if you give it a chance. Now you have sparked a brownie baking urge for me - thanks! It has been too long since I made these for us. ENJOY and most of all TRUST yourself. You can do it and I can't wait until I read that you discover this for yourself too. BEST to you, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I do have favorites in the freezer. The other day we were at the store and my kids love these refrigerated brownie bites and so do I. We got a bag of them, well I ate a couple for breakfast one morning and had some for lunch but before you know it the bag was gone in a couple days and my kids were like " where did they all go? " I was to embarrassed to admit how I had eaten them. I did only eat them when hungry. I mean I would never let my kids eat them for breakfast but if they see me do it then how can I say " no " ? That's where I am w/ all this. I feel like I need to eat while hiding so they don't see how unhealthy I'm eating right now. >  > Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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