Re: MANDATORY READING ----- How can I fix EMSAT??

October 10, 2005

I usually just read and not comment, but let me say:

First of all we are Dallas Fire-Rescue Department. Secondly we respond to

nursing homes and even outside an emergency room if it is a 911 call. Lastly,

you are all correct so let's move on. I hope you all attend the GETAC

Committee meetings during the convention, like it or not this is the system we

have

for making/changing rules. Until this process changes let's work within the

current system to make the necessary improvements to provide the best health

care for the citizen of Texas and those who happen to pass through our great

state.

Let's push to make 911 available for all areas of the state. Gene I respect

your passion and I appreciate everything you do, even though I may disagree

with some of your ideas I know you act out love and not malice wish we all

would.

Maxie Bishop, LP

Dallas Fire-Rescue Department

October 10, 2005

I usually just read and not comment, but let me say:

First of all we are Dallas Fire-Rescue Department. Secondly we respond to

nursing homes and even outside an emergency room if it is a 911 call. Lastly,

you are all correct so let's move on. I hope you all attend the GETAC

Committee meetings during the convention, like it or not this is the system we

have

for making/changing rules. Until this process changes let's work within the

current system to make the necessary improvements to provide the best health

care for the citizen of Texas and those who happen to pass through our great

state.

Let's push to make 911 available for all areas of the state. Gene I respect

your passion and I appreciate everything you do, even though I may disagree

with some of your ideas I know you act out love and not malice wish we all

would.

Maxie Bishop, LP

Dallas Fire-Rescue Department

October 10, 2005

I usually just read and not comment, but let me say:

First of all we are Dallas Fire-Rescue Department. Secondly we respond to

nursing homes and even outside an emergency room if it is a 911 call. Lastly,

you are all correct so let's move on. I hope you all attend the GETAC

Committee meetings during the convention, like it or not this is the system we

have

for making/changing rules. Until this process changes let's work within the

current system to make the necessary improvements to provide the best health

care for the citizen of Texas and those who happen to pass through our great

state.

Let's push to make 911 available for all areas of the state. Gene I respect

your passion and I appreciate everything you do, even though I may disagree

with some of your ideas I know you act out love and not malice wish we all

would.

Maxie Bishop, LP

Dallas Fire-Rescue Department

October 10, 2005

You mean that 60% of ' budget funding from Medicare/Medicaid is not

government funding? Only difference is JPS receives tax dollars as a

hospital district specifically for indigent care. All hospitals rely heavily

on government funding-hence all the signs in the waiting room (EMTALA,

COBRA, HIPAA).

BEB

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Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 9:58 AM

To:

Subject: RE: Re: MANDATORY READING ----- How can I fix EMSAT??

I think you're comparing appkes to oranges. When you look at health funding

in ANY aspect it can come from public or private sources.

Hospital is government funded, as well as user fees.

Methodist (a mile away) is ALL private funded. Should we ask

to close its doors because it generates a profit?

Re: MANDATORY READING ----- How can I fix

EMSAT??

Danny <petsardlj@s...> wrote:

>

> Transportation is EMS. That is where we are and that is where we

came from.

By that logic, funeral services are also EMS. That's where I came

from.

There is nothing " emergency " nor " medical " about funeral services.

And there is nothing " emergency " nor " medical " about invalid

transportation. So are we now reducing EMS to nothing but a fancy

semantic with no actual meaning?

Rob

October 10, 2005

You mean that 60% of ' budget funding from Medicare/Medicaid is not

government funding? Only difference is JPS receives tax dollars as a

hospital district specifically for indigent care. All hospitals rely heavily

on government funding-hence all the signs in the waiting room (EMTALA,

COBRA, HIPAA).

BEB

_____

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of ,

Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 9:58 AM

To:

Subject: RE: Re: MANDATORY READING ----- How can I fix EMSAT??

I think you're comparing appkes to oranges. When you look at health funding

in ANY aspect it can come from public or private sources.

Hospital is government funded, as well as user fees.

Methodist (a mile away) is ALL private funded. Should we ask

to close its doors because it generates a profit?

Re: MANDATORY READING ----- How can I fix

EMSAT??

Danny <petsardlj@s...> wrote:

>

> Transportation is EMS. That is where we are and that is where we

came from.

By that logic, funeral services are also EMS. That's where I came

from.

There is nothing " emergency " nor " medical " about funeral services.

And there is nothing " emergency " nor " medical " about invalid

transportation. So are we now reducing EMS to nothing but a fancy

semantic with no actual meaning?

Rob

October 10, 2005

You mean that 60% of ' budget funding from Medicare/Medicaid is not

government funding? Only difference is JPS receives tax dollars as a

hospital district specifically for indigent care. All hospitals rely heavily

on government funding-hence all the signs in the waiting room (EMTALA,

COBRA, HIPAA).

BEB

_____

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of ,

Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 9:58 AM

To:

Subject: RE: Re: MANDATORY READING ----- How can I fix EMSAT??

I think you're comparing appkes to oranges. When you look at health funding

in ANY aspect it can come from public or private sources.

Hospital is government funded, as well as user fees.

Methodist (a mile away) is ALL private funded. Should we ask

to close its doors because it generates a profit?

Re: MANDATORY READING ----- How can I fix

EMSAT??

Danny <petsardlj@s...> wrote:

>

> Transportation is EMS. That is where we are and that is where we

came from.

By that logic, funeral services are also EMS. That's where I came

from.

There is nothing " emergency " nor " medical " about funeral services.

And there is nothing " emergency " nor " medical " about invalid

transportation. So are we now reducing EMS to nothing but a fancy

semantic with no actual meaning?

Rob

October 10, 2005

> >

> > While all you people are debating as to who's urine stream goes

the

> > farthest distance, I'm gonna break in. What link can I use to join

> > EMSAT? Sounds like if the rest of Texas did this, then we can

> actually

> > debate something and still get things done.

>

> You aren't interested enough to Google it or search the archives?

Now

> that's enthusiasm!

>

> http://www.texasemsat.org/

>

As a matter of fact I did search. I even used EMSAT in my search

engine. I wounldn't have asked for help if I found it already. Now get

your panties out of a wod. If you need some finacial assistance, I'll

by the wood for you so you can build a bridge and get over it.

October 10, 2005

> >

> > While all you people are debating as to who's urine stream goes

the

> > farthest distance, I'm gonna break in. What link can I use to join

> > EMSAT? Sounds like if the rest of Texas did this, then we can

> actually

> > debate something and still get things done.

>

> You aren't interested enough to Google it or search the archives?

Now

> that's enthusiasm!

>

> http://www.texasemsat.org/

>

As a matter of fact I did search. I even used EMSAT in my search

engine. I wounldn't have asked for help if I found it already. Now get

your panties out of a wod. If you need some finacial assistance, I'll

by the wood for you so you can build a bridge and get over it.

October 10, 2005

> >

> > While all you people are debating as to who's urine stream goes

the

> > farthest distance, I'm gonna break in. What link can I use to join

> > EMSAT? Sounds like if the rest of Texas did this, then we can

> actually

> > debate something and still get things done.

>

> You aren't interested enough to Google it or search the archives?

Now

> that's enthusiasm!

>

> http://www.texasemsat.org/

>

As a matter of fact I did search. I even used EMSAT in my search

engine. I wounldn't have asked for help if I found it already. Now get

your panties out of a wod. If you need some finacial assistance, I'll

by the wood for you so you can build a bridge and get over it.

October 10, 2005

>

> My analgoy is as valid as it gets. But let me simplify it even more,

I didnt

> realize it was soo complicated.

>

> Dialysis Nurse

> ER Nurse

> Floor Nurse

> Home Health nurse

> ICU Nurse

> Flight Nurse

>

> What do they all have in common? NURSE, and the BNE (does that help you

> understand better?)

Only problem is that there are several boards of certification that

provide additional areas of certification/expertise for these nurses.

The Board of Certification of Emergency Nurses for Certified

Emergency Nurses (CENs) and the American Association of Critical Care

Nurses for Critical Care Nurses (CCRNs) are two that I can think of

right off hand. To further complicate matters, there are advanced

degree options for Family Nurse Practitioner and Pediatric Nurse

Practitioner. As you can see, the nursing waters are just as murky if

not worse than for EMS.

-Alfonso R. Ochoa

October 10, 2005