Guest guest Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Tai, I often said smoking was easier to quit for me because with food I still have to eat. Sandy I was thinking about when I stopped smoking vs. IE. When I stopped smoking it was a very, very hard thing for me to do. That was some time ago and I honestly have not 'yearned' to go back to smoking. IE, for me, is something different. Smoking was cut and dried (no cigarettes, period). I had a long withdrawal period, however, after some months of suffering the yearning went away. (Whew! what a relief.) I did have a process getting up to the point of stopping, going to a program that helped others to stop smoking as well, getting ready for stopping. Intuitive Eating is a long course for me, but dieting is out of the question. Because I don't want to do it. Last night I saw a program briefly showing a court case with a fat woman and her fat children and a lawyer suing a fast food company for her heart attack, and the presumption that the addiction was caused by fast food companies. To an extent I believe that. The lawyer gave a compelling argument convicting the fast food companies, but so, of course, did the fast food representative give a compelling argument back ( " no one FORCES anyone to eat fast food). I don't know why some people do not fall prey to the hype or technique imposed on the public, advertising their products and making the foods addictive (as the lawyer said they spent billions in advertising and researching how to make the foods addictive, yes I believe that, but I don't know why some people don't get addicted, that's ok), but for the years I spent being addicted to overeating and eating the wrong food, I know it's going to be a process getting unaddicted. Thanks for all the support here. Tai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Tai, I often said smoking was easier to quit for me because with food I still have to eat. Sandy I was thinking about when I stopped smoking vs. IE. When I stopped smoking it was a very, very hard thing for me to do. That was some time ago and I honestly have not 'yearned' to go back to smoking. IE, for me, is something different. Smoking was cut and dried (no cigarettes, period). I had a long withdrawal period, however, after some months of suffering the yearning went away. (Whew! what a relief.) I did have a process getting up to the point of stopping, going to a program that helped others to stop smoking as well, getting ready for stopping. Intuitive Eating is a long course for me, but dieting is out of the question. Because I don't want to do it. Last night I saw a program briefly showing a court case with a fat woman and her fat children and a lawyer suing a fast food company for her heart attack, and the presumption that the addiction was caused by fast food companies. To an extent I believe that. The lawyer gave a compelling argument convicting the fast food companies, but so, of course, did the fast food representative give a compelling argument back ( " no one FORCES anyone to eat fast food). I don't know why some people do not fall prey to the hype or technique imposed on the public, advertising their products and making the foods addictive (as the lawyer said they spent billions in advertising and researching how to make the foods addictive, yes I believe that, but I don't know why some people don't get addicted, that's ok), but for the years I spent being addicted to overeating and eating the wrong food, I know it's going to be a process getting unaddicted. Thanks for all the support here. Tai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Tai, first GOOD for you to quit what is a VERY difficult habit to flush from your body. I personally hesitate to use the term addiction in relation to food and eating since that is a necessity of life, not an option we can choose to NOT do. Some years back I read a book that addressed the actual reality of what television is, can and can NOT be as a media of information exchange. I was able to gain from that information and apply that to my hence forth viewing so as to not be drawn in in ways that I hadn't been aware of before. My TV viewing lessened and for many years we have not received broadcast television in our house. Our decision is totally reinforced every time we watch TV - usually at motel rooms. It doesn't last long I can tell you! Regarding food 'addiction' - while I accept that alteration of food has most likely been done by the huge corporate processing and chemical engineering of food stuffs, I also choose NOT to buy or eat those items as best as I can avoid them. I will have a fast food burger when we travel, its just the quickest, easiest and cheapest choice when driving thru to a destination. But I much prefer a burger grilled at home over ANY dining out one. To me the main problem is that we have been encouraged to become good little 'sheeple' wearing victim fleeces so we can bleat 'pooooorr meeee!' with justification. All I can say is that having changed over MY fleece to that of a lone wolf in sheeple disguise I am sooooo much happier and content in my life. I know this is a big step and many aren't able to see it let alone do it (yet), but I hope that my living is an example that others can and will choose for themselves IF it suits them. CHOICE RULES!! ;-) BEST to you all, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I was thinking about when I stopped smoking vs. IE. When I stopped smoking it was a very, very hard thing for me to do. That was some time ago and I honestly have not 'yearned' to go back to smoking. IE, for me, is something different. Smoking was cut and dried (no cigarettes, period). I had a long withdrawal period, however, after some months of suffering the yearning went away. (Whew! what a relief.) I did have a process getting up to the point of stopping, going to a program that helped others to stop smoking as well, getting ready for stopping. Intuitive Eating is a long course for me, but dieting is out of the question. Because I don't want to do it. Last night I saw a program briefly showing a court case with a fat woman and her fat children and a lawyer suing a fast food company for her heart attack, and the presumption that the addiction was caused by fast food companies. To an extent I believe that. The lawyer gave a compelling argument > convicting the fast food companies, but so, of course, did the fast food representative give a compelling argument back ( " no one FORCES anyone to eat fast food). I don't know why some people do not fall prey to the hype or technique imposed on the public, advertising their products and making the foods addictive (as the lawyer said they spent billions in advertising and researching how to make the foods addictive, yes I believe that, but I don't know why some people don't get addicted, that's ok), but for the years I spent being addicted to overeating and eating the wrong food, I know it's going to be a process getting unaddicted. Thanks for all the support here. Tai > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Tai, first GOOD for you to quit what is a VERY difficult habit to flush from your body. I personally hesitate to use the term addiction in relation to food and eating since that is a necessity of life, not an option we can choose to NOT do. Some years back I read a book that addressed the actual reality of what television is, can and can NOT be as a media of information exchange. I was able to gain from that information and apply that to my hence forth viewing so as to not be drawn in in ways that I hadn't been aware of before. My TV viewing lessened and for many years we have not received broadcast television in our house. Our decision is totally reinforced every time we watch TV - usually at motel rooms. It doesn't last long I can tell you! Regarding food 'addiction' - while I accept that alteration of food has most likely been done by the huge corporate processing and chemical engineering of food stuffs, I also choose NOT to buy or eat those items as best as I can avoid them. I will have a fast food burger when we travel, its just the quickest, easiest and cheapest choice when driving thru to a destination. But I much prefer a burger grilled at home over ANY dining out one. To me the main problem is that we have been encouraged to become good little 'sheeple' wearing victim fleeces so we can bleat 'pooooorr meeee!' with justification. All I can say is that having changed over MY fleece to that of a lone wolf in sheeple disguise I am sooooo much happier and content in my life. I know this is a big step and many aren't able to see it let alone do it (yet), but I hope that my living is an example that others can and will choose for themselves IF it suits them. CHOICE RULES!! ;-) BEST to you all, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I was thinking about when I stopped smoking vs. IE. When I stopped smoking it was a very, very hard thing for me to do. That was some time ago and I honestly have not 'yearned' to go back to smoking. IE, for me, is something different. Smoking was cut and dried (no cigarettes, period). I had a long withdrawal period, however, after some months of suffering the yearning went away. (Whew! what a relief.) I did have a process getting up to the point of stopping, going to a program that helped others to stop smoking as well, getting ready for stopping. Intuitive Eating is a long course for me, but dieting is out of the question. Because I don't want to do it. Last night I saw a program briefly showing a court case with a fat woman and her fat children and a lawyer suing a fast food company for her heart attack, and the presumption that the addiction was caused by fast food companies. To an extent I believe that. The lawyer gave a compelling argument > convicting the fast food companies, but so, of course, did the fast food representative give a compelling argument back ( " no one FORCES anyone to eat fast food). I don't know why some people do not fall prey to the hype or technique imposed on the public, advertising their products and making the foods addictive (as the lawyer said they spent billions in advertising and researching how to make the foods addictive, yes I believe that, but I don't know why some people don't get addicted, that's ok), but for the years I spent being addicted to overeating and eating the wrong food, I know it's going to be a process getting unaddicted. Thanks for all the support here. Tai > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Tai, first GOOD for you to quit what is a VERY difficult habit to flush from your body. I personally hesitate to use the term addiction in relation to food and eating since that is a necessity of life, not an option we can choose to NOT do. Some years back I read a book that addressed the actual reality of what television is, can and can NOT be as a media of information exchange. I was able to gain from that information and apply that to my hence forth viewing so as to not be drawn in in ways that I hadn't been aware of before. My TV viewing lessened and for many years we have not received broadcast television in our house. Our decision is totally reinforced every time we watch TV - usually at motel rooms. It doesn't last long I can tell you! Regarding food 'addiction' - while I accept that alteration of food has most likely been done by the huge corporate processing and chemical engineering of food stuffs, I also choose NOT to buy or eat those items as best as I can avoid them. I will have a fast food burger when we travel, its just the quickest, easiest and cheapest choice when driving thru to a destination. But I much prefer a burger grilled at home over ANY dining out one. To me the main problem is that we have been encouraged to become good little 'sheeple' wearing victim fleeces so we can bleat 'pooooorr meeee!' with justification. All I can say is that having changed over MY fleece to that of a lone wolf in sheeple disguise I am sooooo much happier and content in my life. I know this is a big step and many aren't able to see it let alone do it (yet), but I hope that my living is an example that others can and will choose for themselves IF it suits them. CHOICE RULES!! ;-) BEST to you all, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I was thinking about when I stopped smoking vs. IE. When I stopped smoking it was a very, very hard thing for me to do. That was some time ago and I honestly have not 'yearned' to go back to smoking. IE, for me, is something different. Smoking was cut and dried (no cigarettes, period). I had a long withdrawal period, however, after some months of suffering the yearning went away. (Whew! what a relief.) I did have a process getting up to the point of stopping, going to a program that helped others to stop smoking as well, getting ready for stopping. Intuitive Eating is a long course for me, but dieting is out of the question. Because I don't want to do it. Last night I saw a program briefly showing a court case with a fat woman and her fat children and a lawyer suing a fast food company for her heart attack, and the presumption that the addiction was caused by fast food companies. To an extent I believe that. The lawyer gave a compelling argument > convicting the fast food companies, but so, of course, did the fast food representative give a compelling argument back ( " no one FORCES anyone to eat fast food). I don't know why some people do not fall prey to the hype or technique imposed on the public, advertising their products and making the foods addictive (as the lawyer said they spent billions in advertising and researching how to make the foods addictive, yes I believe that, but I don't know why some people don't get addicted, that's ok), but for the years I spent being addicted to overeating and eating the wrong food, I know it's going to be a process getting unaddicted. Thanks for all the support here. Tai > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Yes, yes, I agree with you Katcha. Today I went to a fast food restaurant with my friend and chose what I thought was the best for me. If I were dieting, I would have had a baked potato with maybe a little margarine. But instead I decided to please myself and so had a small salad and a baked potato topped with chili (no cheese). I was very happy with this choice. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 11:31 AMSubject: Re: addiction Tai, first GOOD for you to quit what is a VERY difficult habit to flush from your body. I personally hesitate to use the term addiction in relation to food and eating since that is a necessity of life, not an option we can choose to NOT do. Some years back I read a book that addressed the actual reality of what television is, can and can NOT be as a media of information exchange. I was able to gain from that information and apply that to my hence forth viewing so as to not be drawn in in ways that I hadn't been aware of before. My TV viewing lessened and for many years we have not received broadcast television in our house. Our decision is totally reinforced every time we watch TV - usually at motel rooms. It doesn't last long I can tell you! Regarding food 'addiction' - while I accept that alteration of food has most likely been done by the huge corporate processing and chemical engineering of food stuffs, I also choose NOT to buy or eat those items as best as I can avoid them. I will have a fast food burger when we travel, its just the quickest, easiest and cheapest choice when driving thru to a destination. But I much prefer a burger grilled at home over ANY dining out one. To me the main problem is that we have been encouraged to become good little 'sheeple' wearing victim fleeces so we can bleat 'pooooorr meeee!' with justification. All I can say is that having changed over MY fleece to that of a lone wolf in sheeple disguise I am sooooo much happier and content in my life. I know this is a big step and many aren't able to see it let alone do it (yet), but I hope that my living is an example that others can and will choose for themselves IF it suits them. CHOICE RULES!! ;-) BEST to you all, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I was thinking about when I stopped smoking vs. IE. When I stopped smoking it was a very, very hard thing for me to do. That was some time ago and I honestly have not 'yearned' to go back to smoking. IE, for me, is something different. Smoking was cut and dried (no cigarettes, period). I had a long withdrawal period, however, after some months of suffering the yearning went away. (Whew! what a relief.) I did have a process getting up to the point of stopping, going to a program that helped others to stop smoking as well, getting ready for stopping. Intuitive Eating is a long course for me, but dieting is out of the question. Because I don't want to do it. Last night I saw a program briefly showing a court case with a fat woman and her fat children and a lawyer suing a fast food company for her heart attack, and the presumption that the addiction was caused by fast food companies. To an extent I believe that. The lawyer gave a compelling argument > convicting the fast food companies, but so, of course, did the fast food representative give a compelling argument back ("no one FORCES anyone to eat fast food). I don't know why some people do not fall prey to the hype or technique imposed on the public, advertising their products and making the foods addictive (as the lawyer said they spent billions in advertising and researching how to make the foods addictive, yes I believe that, but I don't know why some people don't get addicted, that's ok), but for the years I spent being addicted to overeating and eating the wrong food, I know it's going to be a process getting unaddicted. Thanks for all the support here. Tai > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Yes, yes, I agree with you Katcha. Today I went to a fast food restaurant with my friend and chose what I thought was the best for me. If I were dieting, I would have had a baked potato with maybe a little margarine. But instead I decided to please myself and so had a small salad and a baked potato topped with chili (no cheese). I was very happy with this choice. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 11:31 AMSubject: Re: addiction Tai, first GOOD for you to quit what is a VERY difficult habit to flush from your body. I personally hesitate to use the term addiction in relation to food and eating since that is a necessity of life, not an option we can choose to NOT do. Some years back I read a book that addressed the actual reality of what television is, can and can NOT be as a media of information exchange. I was able to gain from that information and apply that to my hence forth viewing so as to not be drawn in in ways that I hadn't been aware of before. My TV viewing lessened and for many years we have not received broadcast television in our house. Our decision is totally reinforced every time we watch TV - usually at motel rooms. It doesn't last long I can tell you! Regarding food 'addiction' - while I accept that alteration of food has most likely been done by the huge corporate processing and chemical engineering of food stuffs, I also choose NOT to buy or eat those items as best as I can avoid them. I will have a fast food burger when we travel, its just the quickest, easiest and cheapest choice when driving thru to a destination. But I much prefer a burger grilled at home over ANY dining out one. To me the main problem is that we have been encouraged to become good little 'sheeple' wearing victim fleeces so we can bleat 'pooooorr meeee!' with justification. All I can say is that having changed over MY fleece to that of a lone wolf in sheeple disguise I am sooooo much happier and content in my life. I know this is a big step and many aren't able to see it let alone do it (yet), but I hope that my living is an example that others can and will choose for themselves IF it suits them. CHOICE RULES!! ;-) BEST to you all, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I was thinking about when I stopped smoking vs. IE. When I stopped smoking it was a very, very hard thing for me to do. That was some time ago and I honestly have not 'yearned' to go back to smoking. IE, for me, is something different. Smoking was cut and dried (no cigarettes, period). I had a long withdrawal period, however, after some months of suffering the yearning went away. (Whew! what a relief.) I did have a process getting up to the point of stopping, going to a program that helped others to stop smoking as well, getting ready for stopping. Intuitive Eating is a long course for me, but dieting is out of the question. Because I don't want to do it. Last night I saw a program briefly showing a court case with a fat woman and her fat children and a lawyer suing a fast food company for her heart attack, and the presumption that the addiction was caused by fast food companies. To an extent I believe that. The lawyer gave a compelling argument > convicting the fast food companies, but so, of course, did the fast food representative give a compelling argument back ("no one FORCES anyone to eat fast food). I don't know why some people do not fall prey to the hype or technique imposed on the public, advertising their products and making the foods addictive (as the lawyer said they spent billions in advertising and researching how to make the foods addictive, yes I believe that, but I don't know why some people don't get addicted, that's ok), but for the years I spent being addicted to overeating and eating the wrong food, I know it's going to be a process getting unaddicted. Thanks for all the support here. Tai > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Sandy, that is true, once I gave up smoking rarely do I think about it and the thought of smoking after so many years of not smoking is utterly repugnant. Eating is different. Now that you mention it, we can't withdraw, or stop from eating. We need to eat to live, smoking is not like that, and some foods can be so alluring. I would imagine that an overeater like me would not constantly be satisfied to overeat, if that's even a possibility, on fresh fruits and nothing else. :-) Here's an example of what I mean -- let's say that someone made me food that was good, wholesome, and within a calorie range. Let's say I had my own personal cook (more like a jailer) and I could not eat anything beyond that except fruit. I doubt I'd be overeating on that. But ya never know. TaiP.S. I am going over emails from a long while ago, that's why I'm answering so long after you posted this. To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 10:25 AMSubject: Re: addiction Tai, I often said smoking was easier to quit for me because with food I still have to eat. Sandy I was thinking about when I stopped smoking vs. IE. When I stopped smoking it was a very, very hard thing for me to do. That was some time ago and I honestly have not 'yearned' to go back to smoking. IE, for me, is something different. Smoking was cut and dried (no cigarettes, period). I had a long withdrawal period, however, after some months of suffering the yearning went away. (Whew! what a relief.) I did have a process getting up to the point of stopping, going to a program that helped others to stop smoking as well, getting ready for stopping. Intuitive Eating is a long course for me, but dieting is out of the question. Because I don't want to do it. Last night I saw a program briefly showing a court case with a fat woman and her fat children and a lawyer suing a fast food company for her heart attack, and the presumption that the addiction was caused by fast food companies. To an extent I believe that. The lawyer gave a compelling argument convicting the fast food companies, but so, of course, did the fast food representative give a compelling argument back ("no one FORCES anyone to eat fast food). I don't know why some people do not fall prey to the hype or technique imposed on the public, advertising their products and making the foods addictive (as the lawyer said they spent billions in advertising and researching how to make the foods addictive, yes I believe that, but I don't know why some people don't get addicted, that's ok), but for the years I spent being addicted to overeating and eating the wrong food, I know it's going to be a process getting unaddicted. Thanks for all the support here. Tai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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