Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Chantelle- You are absolutely right that the new definition is the best and what we hope all systems will use. But in our case, the fact that these particular folks were still thinking in terms of old ideas was to our benefit. That was just in this one situation. I wouldn't want the old definition to be perpetuated. Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Re: defintion of developmental disability Well i somewhat dissagree. Depends on the sevarity of charge. for a mild charger the letters really dont help too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Chantelle- This is really helpful clarification! I'm not sure how it compares to the situation in IL, but I'll be checking into it further. Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Re: defintion of developmental disability maybe see > that this new definition does not exclude people with CHARGE. Is CHARGE > considered a developmental disability in other states? Does anyone know? > What is the obstacle to people getting services? My biggest obstical is getting people to see how the combined imparments affect my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Chantelle- This is really helpful clarification! I'm not sure how it compares to the situation in IL, but I'll be checking into it further. Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Re: defintion of developmental disability maybe see > that this new definition does not exclude people with CHARGE. Is CHARGE > considered a developmental disability in other states? Does anyone know? > What is the obstacle to people getting services? My biggest obstical is getting people to see how the combined imparments affect my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Ellen- I am saving your thoughts will all of the others as I try to make sense out of this and see what we can change in IL! Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Ellen- I am saving your thoughts will all of the others as I try to make sense out of this and see what we can change in IL! Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2006 Report Share Posted March 12, 2006 , I am just reading these post now but I have to warn you that the term Developmental Delay can be misunderstood even by specialists and is now the National politically correct term for the definition of Mental Retardation. Careful, careful, careful. It is the definition and term that fits Patty but the word Delay is what has never been understood. It isn't where Patty performs that is her Potential. Her potential has been limited due to many reasons-called CHARGE. Delay is right in that often learning comes, just delayed. Know what I mean? That's why Deaf/Blind fits her and helps with the term developmentally DELAYED. Guess I have to go read the rest of these posts to know what's going on but please take my warning. Once you pigeon hole your child into a definition it is a battle to get that definition off if it doesn't truly define your child. Services can then be limited or even denied. That's another important reason many children who have CHARGE should not have the definition of Autism. They are totally different things although the services can be close. But then again, that term fits many children who have CHARGE. It's all so very complicated. This is all so confusing as well because we have to truly acknowledge our children's individual limitations. For example, Patty tests very low for math. That is the way it is. So making her do it is plain old torture. We fought them trying to continually teach her mental math because that was ridiculous. She didn't have that ability. She didn't attain that goal for a few years so I knew we then had to redefine the goal. She is frustrated then and shuts down and can't do a thing. NOTHING. But give her a calculator and she has the ability to modify the world to be able to perform functions and tasks. She passed algebra (which is language based) with a calculator under the duress of the Special educators fighting against her being in that class. The regular educator taught her APPROPRIATELY and Patty got a C- for the year. We were overjoyed! And they said it couldn't be done. You should have seen the joy on that teachers face. You should have seen the joy on Patty's! True teachers teach all children. We were lucky to have gifted " regular " educators in Patty's life. We just needed to support those teachers. Very often we were told by SPED staff that Patty exceeded her potential. Knowing that to be impossible is what gave us the passion to continue forward. And she continues to be able to learn. Don't we all?! Like I said, be careful with the terms as they are often misjudged and misused. Bonnie, Mom to Kris 23, Patty CHARGE 21 and wife to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2006 Report Share Posted March 12, 2006 Bonnie- I know the pitfalls of labels. The DD definition in IL is what gets people services. They are working hard to modify that definition to include not only MR, but also Autism, and other conditions that adversely affect 3 or more life areas. It is very confusing when DD is interchanged with MR. And it's extremely frustrating when services and supports are available to only people who fit that definition. There are many many folks out there with CP, CHARGE, and a host of other things with or without formal dx's that require significant supports but that don't qualify as MR. Argh. Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2006 Report Share Posted March 12, 2006 Bonnie- I know the pitfalls of labels. The DD definition in IL is what gets people services. They are working hard to modify that definition to include not only MR, but also Autism, and other conditions that adversely affect 3 or more life areas. It is very confusing when DD is interchanged with MR. And it's extremely frustrating when services and supports are available to only people who fit that definition. There are many many folks out there with CP, CHARGE, and a host of other things with or without formal dx's that require significant supports but that don't qualify as MR. Argh. Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2006 Report Share Posted March 12, 2006 Bonnie- I know the pitfalls of labels. The DD definition in IL is what gets people services. They are working hard to modify that definition to include not only MR, but also Autism, and other conditions that adversely affect 3 or more life areas. It is very confusing when DD is interchanged with MR. And it's extremely frustrating when services and supports are available to only people who fit that definition. There are many many folks out there with CP, CHARGE, and a host of other things with or without formal dx's that require significant supports but that don't qualify as MR. Argh. Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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