Re: Waiting for rumbles

[Guest guest]

No, Katcha, but thank you for your response. Yes, I would like to find out from others how they determine when to eat, and how often do they feel this physical need each day. I'm sorry, but it is important to me. If this were not a reasonable request (IMO) books would not be written, etc., explaining the theories or anecdotes behind the author's premise. Thanks again. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:17 AMSubject: Re: Waiting for rumbles

Mo Tai is not what I am trying to say - 'don't use support'! Others' experiences are valuable input for sure. I know I have found that what another has shared struck a cord with me in quite helpful ways. The pit fall I worry about is the sucking hole of diet mentality that whispers 'listen to others (experts)' instead of encouraging you to take such knowledge and INternalize it for your benefit. Diet demons love to play tricks on us! They can prank by setting up false sign posts to detour us from our IE journey.

BEST to you,

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

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> oh ok I like support, and I like to hear other people's experiences, it helps me, Katcha. But if you feel it won't help me to hear how others do it or cope, that's ok.

>

[Guest guest]

very interesting, Judy. I know I'm going to have to keep working on the mentality of waiting for hunger. Thanks for posting that. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 12:03 PMSubject: Re: Waiting for rumbles

I don't rumble. Or I do, but not from hunger, just digestive. I searched for other hunger signals and found "true hunger occurs deep in the lower throat" (a quote from a diet book named for numbers, 80-10-10- I think. And "True hunger is a sensation in the mouth and throat, similar to thirst, and not a gnawing pain in the stomach."

Maybe some people just have tummy's that growl and others don't -- I find for me that there is a sensation close to thirst that occurs in the lower throat and at the same time the stomach feels empty. So I'm interpreting that as hunger.

Subject: Waiting for rumblesTo: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Date: Thursday, August 25, 2011, 10:32 AM

How many of you really wait for a rumble before you eat each time? I notice I can easily wait for breakfast. Lunch is a quick follow upper, but dinner can be a problem and after that. Tai

[Guest guest]

very interesting, Judy. I know I'm going to have to keep working on the mentality of waiting for hunger. Thanks for posting that. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 12:03 PMSubject: Re: Waiting for rumbles

I don't rumble. Or I do, but not from hunger, just digestive. I searched for other hunger signals and found "true hunger occurs deep in the lower throat" (a quote from a diet book named for numbers, 80-10-10- I think. And "True hunger is a sensation in the mouth and throat, similar to thirst, and not a gnawing pain in the stomach."

Maybe some people just have tummy's that growl and others don't -- I find for me that there is a sensation close to thirst that occurs in the lower throat and at the same time the stomach feels empty. So I'm interpreting that as hunger.

Subject: Waiting for rumblesTo: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Date: Thursday, August 25, 2011, 10:32 AM

How many of you really wait for a rumble before you eat each time? I notice I can easily wait for breakfast. Lunch is a quick follow upper, but dinner can be a problem and after that. Tai

[Guest guest]

I hardly ever know when I'm thirsty, fortunately I have learned to drink water as I got older, and I enjoy it. Some days I drink less than others, but I have hardly ever known what thirst feels like. The closest I can come to it is when I am at a fountain and just have to drink and drink and drink. If I take one or two sips, I guess I'm not that thirsty. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 12:09 PMSubject: Re: Waiting for rumbles

I forgot to add, this is the first time the idea that one can confuse thirst with hunger made sense for me -- I could never figure out how any person could confuse a stomach sensation with a mouth/throat sensation like thirst. But if hunger is also in mouth/stomach then that makes much more sense.

Subject: Waiting for rumblesTo: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Date: Thursday, August 25, 2011, 10:32 AM

How many of you really wait for a rumble before you eat each time? I notice I can easily wait for breakfast. Lunch is a quick follow upper, but dinner can be a problem and after that. Tai

[Guest guest]

I hardly ever know when I'm thirsty, fortunately I have learned to drink water as I got older, and I enjoy it. Some days I drink less than others, but I have hardly ever known what thirst feels like. The closest I can come to it is when I am at a fountain and just have to drink and drink and drink. If I take one or two sips, I guess I'm not that thirsty. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 12:09 PMSubject: Re: Waiting for rumbles

I forgot to add, this is the first time the idea that one can confuse thirst with hunger made sense for me -- I could never figure out how any person could confuse a stomach sensation with a mouth/throat sensation like thirst. But if hunger is also in mouth/stomach then that makes much more sense.

Subject: Waiting for rumblesTo: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Date: Thursday, August 25, 2011, 10:32 AM

How many of you really wait for a rumble before you eat each time? I notice I can easily wait for breakfast. Lunch is a quick follow upper, but dinner can be a problem and after that. Tai

[Guest guest]

Katcha,

I think that's what so truly freeing about IE - recognizing that NO ONE can tell

us when, what, and/or how much to eat appropriately, and learning to trust that

our bodies are ideally suited to give us that information. I'm really trying to

focus on dropping the habitual eating patterns and really " listen " to the

sensations within, since I know I don't have it right yet, as I've plateaued

despite having over a 100 extra pounds dragging me down. But I know it will

drop once I truly trust my own body. (Hard to do, after hating it my whole

life. This respect and trust thing, not to mention seeing it as attractive in

any way, is new and shaky. The last couple of weeks have been horrendously

stressful due to mental illness in 2 close family members, and I've been

discouraged to notice how as I cry more, I am seeing my reflection in the mirror

as less appealing. But I guess they're both signs of the blues. Interestingly,

those 2 weeks are when I've plateaued too.)

Jane

> >

> > How many of you really wait for a rumble before you eat each time? I notice

I can easily wait for breakfast. Lunch is a quick follow upper, but dinner can

be a problem and after that. Tai

> >

>

[Guest guest]

thanks Evan. I don't do the numbers, but I think I know what you mean. The rumble in the morning does it for me, I don't mind waiting but then I generally don't leave the house too early, so I can wait without worrying. It's the rest of the day that bothers me. :-) I did eat lunch a little while ago, and I feel rather comfortable, maybe a little too comfortable because I feel my stomach is full. Not too full as in uncomfortable, but full enough for me to feel food in there and it has expanded, and I don't want to eat although another pizza was very tempting for a moment until I told myself my stomach is full. But for a moment, IF I were in a restaurant and not at home, I'm sure sure sure that I would have had that second slice because it is so tasty. Just to let you know, I did have a fairly good plate of

vegetables along with the one slice. (Because I'm working on eating more veggies now <g>) TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 12:22 PMSubject: Re: Waiting for rumbles

Hi Tai,

For me the rumble thing doesn't quite work. I'm not 100% sure what a rumble is. That's like stopping when I'm full? What's full. The number system works really well for me. My stomach can rumble a little and I'll still be at a 4, which is not bad. 3 is the ideal number. Going past that starts to get into panic mode, which is no good for me.

I find that if I really wait until a 3 in the morning it gets my day started off right, food wise, that is.

Thanks,

Evan

[Guest guest]

Jane, if I wait too long after I notice I am hungry, I do experience nausea also. Boy do I know at that point I really should eat! TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 1:10 PMSubject: Re: Waiting for rumbles

Kim,

Hunger is usually signaled to me by a stomach rumble, but sometimes in the morning, it's emptiness accompanied by mild nausea and lightheadedness. As the amounts I am eating drop, I have been pleased to note that I am getting hungrier earlier in the morning and am usually hungry for dinner when my family eats. In between varies a lot, as it has in the evening.

Jane

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> > How many of you really wait for a rumble before you eat each time? I notice I can easily wait for breakfast. Lunch is a quick follow upper, but dinner can be a problem and after that. Tai

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Jane, if I wait too long after I notice I am hungry, I do experience nausea also. Boy do I know at that point I really should eat! TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 1:10 PMSubject: Re: Waiting for rumbles

Kim,

Hunger is usually signaled to me by a stomach rumble, but sometimes in the morning, it's emptiness accompanied by mild nausea and lightheadedness. As the amounts I am eating drop, I have been pleased to note that I am getting hungrier earlier in the morning and am usually hungry for dinner when my family eats. In between varies a lot, as it has in the evening.

Jane

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> > How many of you really wait for a rumble before you eat each time? I notice I can easily wait for breakfast. Lunch is a quick follow upper, but dinner can be a problem and after that. Tai

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Tai,

I agree with you that it's more difficult at dinner time and much easier for

breakfast. I tend to have a head full of my day by evening and am much less

present and tuned in.

Evan

>

> thanks Evan. I don't do the numbers, but I think I know what you mean. The

rumble in the morning does it for me, I don't mind waiting but then I generally

don't leave the house too early, so I can wait without worrying. It's the rest

of the day that bothers me. :-) I did eat lunch a little while ago, and I feel

rather comfortable, maybe a little too comfortable because I feel my stomach is

full. Not too full as in uncomfortable, but full enough for me to feel food in

there and it has expanded, and I don't want to eat although another pizza was

very tempting for a moment until I told myself my stomach is full. But for a

moment, IF I were in a restaurant and not at home, I'm sure sure sure that I

would have had that second slice because it is so tasty. Just to let you know, I

did have a fairly good plate of vegetables along with the one slice. (Because

I'm working on eating more veggies now <g>) Tai

>

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> To: IntuitiveEating_Support

> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 12:22 PM

> Subject: Re: Waiting for rumbles

>

>

> Hi Tai,

>

> For me the rumble thing doesn't quite work. I'm not 100% sure what a rumble

is. That's like stopping when I'm full? What's full. The number system works

really well for me. My stomach can rumble a little and I'll still be at a 4,

which is not bad. 3 is the ideal number. Going past that starts to get into

panic mode, which is no good for me.

>

> I find that if I really wait until a 3 in the morning it gets my day started

off right, food wise, that is.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Evan

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>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

when I no longer like looking at myself in the mirror, I think I need a new hairdo or maybe my clothes just aren't right for me. I looked at an outfit recently, and decided it really does nothing for me, so I got rid of it. As a matter of fact, I'm thinking that now I could use a new hair style, lol. But I have a problem, because I don't want to color my hair any more, or put rollers in it, so I have to content myself with looking as I do with short, grey hair. My hairdresser is pretty good, but I'm going to see if she can give me a little different look next time. :-) Stress from family members who are ill can be a constant and wear us down. Keep your strength up as much as possible, Jane. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 1:20 PMSubject: Re: Waiting for rumbles

Katcha,

I think that's what so truly freeing about IE - recognizing that NO ONE can tell us when, what, and/or how much to eat appropriately, and learning to trust that our bodies are ideally suited to give us that information. I'm really trying to focus on dropping the habitual eating patterns and really "listen" to the sensations within, since I know I don't have it right yet, as I've plateaued despite having over a 100 extra pounds dragging me down. But I know it will drop once I truly trust my own body. (Hard to do, after hating it my whole life. This respect and trust thing, not to mention seeing it as attractive in any way, is new and shaky. The last couple of weeks have been horrendously stressful due to mental illness in 2 close family members, and I've been discouraged to notice how as I cry more, I am seeing my reflection in the mirror as less appealing. But I guess they're both signs of the blues. Interestingly, those 2 weeks are when I've

plateaued too.)

Jane

> >

> > How many of you really wait for a rumble before you eat each time? I notice I can easily wait for breakfast. Lunch is a quick follow upper, but dinner can be a problem and after that. Tai

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I'm with Abby on this one. I've found that when I wait for stomach rumbles, I wait too long to eat after I'm hungry and start to obsess about food. That's exactly what I'm trying to avoid. Also, it sounds too much like a rule to me. Like I "have to" wait until I hear a rumble or I'm not allowed to eat. It makes me despondant and triggers diet mentality. I've experimented with it and now eat when I can honestly say to myself "I'm physically hungry." I think different signals work for different people, and that's great.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Waiting for rumblesTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Thursday, August 25, 2011, 1:16 PM

If by "rumble" you mean the sound of my stomach growling... for me I find that to be a late sign of hunger, and that I am better served by eating BEFORE I get that hungry. Because being that hungry tends to make me overeat.

I think I notice thoughts of food, popping up out of nowhere, first, and then a sort of emptiness in my stomach.

Best,Abby

[Guest guest]

No, I don't think I'm saying I have to wait. But then, forget about the rumbles, altho I'm glad I heard the answers. I can't always say I'm hungry as if I know my stomach or body is telling me I'm hungry. But again, when I don't feel I have to eat, when my stomach is comfortable and my mind is not craving food because I'm comfortable in my stomach, that is a wonderful feeling. Everyone is different, but I am still struggling and wonder how long it takes for others to get hungry, and how do they know they're hungry and do they observe their hunger signals for the most part? I woke up at 7 a.m., waited for a few hours to eat something, then I decided I just needed something for lunch and so I had it. I am now fairly comfortably unhungry. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 1:34 PMSubject: Re: Waiting for rumbles

I'm with Abby on this one. I've found that when I wait for stomach rumbles, I wait too long to eat after I'm hungry and start to obsess about food. That's exactly what I'm trying to avoid. Also, it sounds too much like a rule to me. Like I "have to" wait until I hear a rumble or I'm not allowed to eat. It makes me despondant and triggers diet mentality. I've experimented with it and now eat when I can honestly say to myself "I'm physically hungry." I think different signals work for different people, and that's great.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Waiting for rumblesTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Thursday, August 25, 2011, 1:16 PM

If by "rumble" you mean the sound of my stomach growling... for me I find that to be a late sign of hunger, and that I am better served by eating BEFORE I get that hungry. Because being that hungry tends to make me overeat.

I think I notice thoughts of food, popping up out of nowhere, first, and then a sort of emptiness in my stomach.

Best,Abby

[Guest guest]

that's usually what I have, too, Abby, thoughts of food from the middle of nowhere and I wonder where they come from, lol! it's about that time I am beginning to think I may be hungry. Interesting, isn't it? I find it fascinating. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 1:16 PMSubject: Re:

Waiting for rumbles

If by "rumble" you mean the sound of my stomach growling... for me I find that to be a late sign of hunger, and that I am better served by eating BEFORE I get that hungry. Because being that hungry tends to make me overeat.

I think I notice thoughts of food, popping up out of nowhere, first, and then a sort of emptiness in my stomach.

Best,

Abby

> I forgot to add, this is the first time the idea that one can confuse thirst with hunger made sense for me -- I could never figure out how any person could confuse a stomach sensation with a mouth/throat sensation like thirst. But if hunger is also in mouth/stomach then that makes much more sense.

> > > > >

> Subject: Waiting for rumbles> To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >

> Date: Thursday, August 25, 2011, 10:32 AM> > > > > > > How many of you really wait for a rumble before you eat each time? I notice I can easily wait for breakfast. Lunch is a quick follow upper, but dinner can be a problem and after that. Tai

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

It is interesting to hear everyone's perspective on this. I believe that most

people would say that waiting for the rumble is too long. For now, I am trying

to wait. My experience with decades of not waiting for anything that even

resembles hunger have really confused me. I need to learn my body. Also, I am

finding that I do not overeat - even after waiting long periods of time. By the

time true hunger arrives, my body is telling my brain to look for real foods -

not the junk I reach for when I am only " head hungry. "

In all honesty, this has not been easy. I still have times of grabbing food

" because it's there " (like climbing Mt. Everest). This is not good for my body.

If my body is not hungry, and I eat food, what will my body do with it? I think

I wrote about this yesterday, and you have all read the materials. Even if it's

a raw carrot, when my BODY is not hungry, my BODY has to do something with this

food that has been introduced. Yuk. OK, I am rambling. Sorry.

One final note, I really like the lesson that I've learned here about stopping

when " no longer hungry. " What is this " full " business? Ha! " Full " to me was too

much and it showed on my body. I'm pretty sure most Americans eat to " full " at

most meals. Thus, our country's obesity problem. I may oversimplify, but this

weight thing is usually (unless there are medical issues) simple math, not

rocket science.

Thanks again to everyone for sharing on this important topic.

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> Subject: Re: Waiting for rumbles

> To: IntuitiveEating_Support

> Date: Thursday, August 25, 2011, 1:16 PM

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> If by " rumble " you mean the sound of my stomach growling... for me I find that

to be a late sign of hunger, and that I am better served by eating BEFORE I get

that hungry. Because being that hungry tends to make me overeat.

> I think I notice thoughts of food, popping up out of nowhere, first, and then

a sort of emptiness in my stomach.

> Best,

> Abby

>

[Guest guest]

....Interestingly, those 2 weeks are when I've plateaued too.

Just had to highlight that as it totally jumped out at me... stress and the

body/mind response. For me food is a symptom - what's driving the eating is my

work, along with learning to choose food mindfully. It's a process.

Sandarah

Still learning IE

(Had to try out a catch phrase; never did have a bumper sticker...)

>

[Guest guest]

Hi -

I introduced myself a few months ago and have many been lurking, because I just

don't have a lot of time to post. Reading everybody's posts is very enlightening

and helpful. I wanted to jump in on this thread because I learned something very

interesting about myself over the last couple of weeks regarding recognizing

hunger.

On weekdays, I typically have breakfast between 6:00 and 6:15 before leaving for

work. Most of the time I am definitely hungry at that time. What is interesting,

is that by the time I get to work at about 7:30 I am feeling rumblings and other

sensations, incuding feeling empty. However I know that I ate enough so that I

shouldn't feel hungry. But until a few weeks ago I " honored " that hunger by

getting something to eat. By the time I finished whatever (muffin, bagel, etc)

I'd be full. So I tried an experiment a couple of weeks ago. I decided to not

get anything to eat, but just have a nice cup of green tea when I got into the

office. And that now satisfies me almost every time. So when I thought I was

hungry, I actually just wanted the warmth of a mug of tea. So I learned that I

cannot rely only on physical signals because they are sometimes triggered by the

mind.

Since nobody probably remembers my intro, I'll give a brief summary. I am 55,

married for the second time, no kids, a Shih Tzu and 2 parrots. I've been

battling my weight for cost of my life and a couple of years ago I decided to

give up the war. I've been working on intuitively eating since then, reading

everything about it I could get my hands on. During this time I have gained

some weight but I attribute that to the lack of physical activity due to some

physical challenges I've been facing the last few years. But I feel like I've

gotten a good handle on it.

My favorite IE book is May's " Eat What You Love, Love What You Eat " . My

second favorite book is " The Body Love Manual " which was recommended by someone

on this list - I don't remember who, but thanks so much. It is a fabulous book.

And at this very moment, I am sitting in the airport in Phoenix, waiting for the

shuttle to May's Mindful Eating Retreat.

Have a great and mindful day.

>

> ...Interestingly, those 2 weeks are when I've plateaued too.

> Just had to highlight that as it totally jumped out at me... stress and the

body/mind response. For me food is a symptom - what's driving the eating is my

work, along with learning to choose food mindfully. It's a process.

>

> Sandarah

> Still learning IE

> (Had to try out a catch phrase; never did have a bumper sticker...)

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I'm just re-reading this now and apologize for all the typos. The iPad makes

some very bizarre spelling corrections.

> >

> > ...Interestingly, those 2 weeks are when I've plateaued too.

> > Just had to highlight that as it totally jumped out at me... stress and the

body/mind response. For me food is a symptom - what's driving the eating is my

work, along with learning to choose food mindfully. It's a process.

> >

> > Sandarah

> > Still learning IE

> > (Had to try out a catch phrase; never did have a bumper sticker...)

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Nice, Jersey Girl. Thanks for the update. Parrots are too cool. I have an

increasing menagerie of cats including a pregnant female that showed up about

three weeks ago. This site gives me hope; I'm a relatively newbie.

> >

> > ...Interestingly, those 2 weeks are when I've plateaued too.

> > Just had to highlight that as it totally jumped out at me... stress and the

body/mind response. For me food is a symptom - what's driving the eating is my

work, along with learning to choose food mindfully. It's a process.

> >

> > Sandarah

> > Still learning IE

> > (Had to try out a catch phrase; never did have a bumper sticker...)

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I understand, Sandarah. You'd have to at least sit down to something you enjoy, or eat something quick that you enjoy. How many lawyers enjoy that NYC hot dog? :-) A lot, so it seems, from Law and Order...TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:29 AMSubject: Re: Waiting for

rumbles

Glad you brought this up; I've wondered too. I'm still beginning and trying different ways of identifying hunger. To me, it's a sort of gestalt body feeling that I need/want to eat.

I am trying to figure out my own hunger scale and determine what being too hungry is vs what being hungry enough is. I do like the experience of eating when I'm really hungry; but getting that hungry at work, for instance, and then sitting down to a meal I can enjoy isn't much of a reality. My meals are often interrupted and I never know if I can even take a real lunch break most days. Though I am getting better at waiting longer for lunch rather than eating at an accustomed time.

So, for now I'm working with hungry enough and eating in such a way as to avoid blood sugar crashes by not balancing out my carbs and being mindful of how caffeine can skew my appetite.

Sandarah

>

> How many of you really wait for a rumble before you eat each time? I notice I can easily wait for breakfast. Lunch is a quick follow upper, but dinner can be a problem and after that. Tai

>

[Guest guest]

Oh , I will be so interested to hear all about the retreat. When you get

back, would you be so kind as to take the time to tell us what happened and what

was useful and anything you learned? Jane

> >

> > ...Interestingly, those 2 weeks are when I've plateaued too.

> > Just had to highlight that as it totally jumped out at me... stress and the

body/mind response. For me food is a symptom - what's driving the eating is my

work, along with learning to choose food mindfully. It's a process.

> >

> > Sandarah

> > Still learning IE

> > (Had to try out a catch phrase; never did have a bumper sticker...)

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My first signs of hunger are also when thoughts of food or eating sudden pop into my mind and I can't seemt o shake it. that's when I also stop and check in to see if I am also feeling empty, and often to my surprise, the rumbles and slight headache also start shortly after the invasive food thoughts. But it's a really different kind of food thought that I used to have. Those thoughts were obsessive, and all day long back in the diet days. I was constantly hungry and always planning what I still had enough calories/carbs/points left to make a meal out of. I would ask my daughter what was for dinner and would plan my lunch according to what, if anything, she had planned for dinner. And when I wasn't dieting, I still obsessed about food only I wasn't ever hungry. I'm so glad those days are gone.

Sunny

Re: Waiting for rumbles

Kim, I don't find that I am waiting for A sign such as only a 'rumble'. Certainly that is a good one that many seem to be able to utilize, but its not my 'eat!' signal alone. The first indication that I have of hunger seems to be when 'food' pops into my mind. I usually check and see if that comes from my body or 'mind'. If I know (mind) that I ate several hours before, have a vague feeling of 'empty' and when I what (food) I think about eating sounds appealing, that's hunger for me. If what I previously ate hasn't been all that long ago, I still feel 'full' (not 'empty') or proposed food items don't appeal really, then the hunger urge is most likely an emotional one for me.

Just to provide a different example - one other member here found that when she was hungry she would feel a warm sensation in her abdomen area! Others notice salivation. Getting to know your body is one of the challenges and blessings of IE.

BEST to you,

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

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> I was wondering the same thing earlier. I feel waiting for the rumble is my bodies signal for hunger but sometimes question. I would like to hear what others say too. > > Kim

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[Guest guest]

Jane,I'd be happy to. It's been great. I'm with 20-30 women (and 1 man) who are looking for the same thing I am (and we are all here). May is warm and caring and wants usnall to "get" this. If you haven't read her book, I highly recommend it. Sent from my iPad

Oh , I will be so interested to hear all about the retreat. When you get back, would you be so kind as to take the time to tell us what happened and what was useful and anything you learned? Jane

> >

> > ...Interestingly, those 2 weeks are when I've plateaued too.

> > Just had to highlight that as it totally jumped out at me... stress and the body/mind response. For me food is a symptom - what's driving the eating is my work, along with learning to choose food mindfully. It's a process.

> >

> > Sandarah

> > Still learning IE

> > (Had to try out a catch phrase; never did have a bumper sticker...)

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, I am new here. I did intuitive eating 10 years ago and lost ALL my excess

weight, only to let it all creep back over the past 6 years. I have tried

diets, counting calories, low carb, etc, but I know that this is the right way

to eat. To eat in order to nourish my body and enjoy the food I eat, but not

lust over it and be greedy. Praying I can get back in the habit of waiting

until I am truly plysically hungry and only then eat and then stop with my body

is nourished, not when my flesh is satisfied....which would be never. Hope I

can get a good support group here.

> >

> >

> > From: Abigail Wolfson <abigail.wolfson@>

> > Subject: Re: Waiting for rumbles

> > To: IntuitiveEating_Support

> > Date: Thursday, August 25, 2011, 1:16 PM

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > If by " rumble " you mean the sound of my stomach growling... for me I find

that to be a late sign of hunger, and that I am better served by eating BEFORE I

get that hungry. Because being that hungry tends to make me overeat.

> > I think I notice thoughts of food, popping up out of nowhere, first, and

then a sort of emptiness in my stomach.

> > Best,

> > Abby

> >

>

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Hi, I am new here. I did intuitive eating 10 years ago and lost ALL my excess

weight, only to let it all creep back over the past 6 years. I have tried

diets, counting calories, low carb, etc, but I know that this is the right way

to eat. To eat in order to nourish my body and enjoy the food I eat, but not

lust over it and be greedy. Praying I can get back in the habit of waiting

until I am truly plysically hungry and only then eat and then stop with my body

is nourished, not when my flesh is satisfied....which would be never. Hope I

can get a good support group here.

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> > From: Abigail Wolfson <abigail.wolfson@>

> > Subject: Re: Waiting for rumbles

> > To: IntuitiveEating_Support

> > Date: Thursday, August 25, 2011, 1:16 PM

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> > If by " rumble " you mean the sound of my stomach growling... for me I find

that to be a late sign of hunger, and that I am better served by eating BEFORE I

get that hungry. Because being that hungry tends to make me overeat.

> > I think I notice thoughts of food, popping up out of nowhere, first, and

then a sort of emptiness in my stomach.

> > Best,

> > Abby

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