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This discussion about physical signals of hunger is interesting. Sometimes I

KNOW I am hungry and my mouth is watering as well as my stomach kind-of

clenching. That HAS to be hunger, given how much I enjoy the food then and how

driven I feel to keep eating until the sensation eases. But I also know that

when I smell something delectable, say a bread product baking or onions or meat

frying, I can be totally uninterested in food the moment before I smell it, and

as soon as the smell hits my brain, my mouth starts watering and I SO WANT IT,

but my stomach isn't involved at all, and I DON'T think that is actual body

hunger.

Jane

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Very good point, Jane. Our brains can send some mixed up signals to our bodies.

I am amazed that my body can wait for long periods of time. Maybe this isn't

ideal for the long haul, but I am learning. I will not drop dead on the sidewalk

from malnutrition :-) All of the years of dieting took so much attention. I

think learning to " not diet " is going to require even more!!

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> This discussion about physical signals of hunger is interesting. Sometimes I

KNOW I am hungry and my mouth is watering as well as my stomach kind-of

clenching. That HAS to be hunger, given how much I enjoy the food then and how

driven I feel to keep eating until the sensation eases. But I also know that

when I smell something delectable, say a bread product baking or onions or meat

frying, I can be totally uninterested in food the moment before I smell it, and

as soon as the smell hits my brain, my mouth starts watering and I SO WANT IT,

but my stomach isn't involved at all, and I DON'T think that is actual body

hunger.

>

> Jane

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The problem with my mouth watering is what I learned as a kid in science class (the experiment with Pavlov's dogs). The experiment showed, if I remember correctly, that we could be "programmed" to have our mouths water by simply showing foods that are particularly enjoyed. So the misery comes up with if I am stomach hungry or mentally hungry? But I do know this, Jane, that when I am NOT hungry, absolutely not hungry, you can show me the greatest food in the world and I wouldn't want to eat it. That's the thing. If my mouth is watering and I don't feel stomach hungry, and my mouth and mind won't stop desiring the food, I figure I am hungry enough to eat. Now since you mention that our stomachs or bodies are all different, I do know that heavier people eat more than thin people on a general basis. So I would say

that those of us who are heavy and who desire to lose the excess weight as much as possible within the constraints of IE, given the fact that we may never be thin-thin, will have to learn to develop a better sense of how much do we really need in our bodies to feel satisfied? Thanks for bringing up that we are all different, etc. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 1:41 PMSubject: Mouth watering?

This discussion about physical signals of hunger is interesting. Sometimes I KNOW I am hungry and my mouth is watering as well as my stomach kind-of clenching. That HAS to be hunger, given how much I enjoy the food then and how driven I feel to keep eating until the sensation eases. But I also know that when I smell something delectable, say a bread product baking or onions or meat frying, I can be totally uninterested in food the moment before I smell it, and as soon as the smell hits my brain, my mouth starts watering and I SO WANT IT, but my stomach isn't involved at all, and I DON'T think that is actual body hunger.

Jane

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We're always paying attention to food except when we're not. That means, if I'm dieting I'm certainly always thinking about food or eating. If I'm on IE, I am thinking about it, but in a different way. And when I'm not thinking about food, my mind is thankfully focused on something else. I learned in psychology class that our minds cannot do two things at once. If we're singing and playing the piano, for instance, one has to be automatic. (There's where practice makes perfect comes in...<g>) It is simply impossible to concentrate on two things at once. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:10 PMSubject: Re: Mouth watering?

Very good point, Jane. Our brains can send some mixed up signals to our bodies.

I am amazed that my body can wait for long periods of time. Maybe this isn't ideal for the long haul, but I am learning. I will not drop dead on the sidewalk from malnutrition :-) All of the years of dieting took so much attention. I think learning to "not diet" is going to require even more!!

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> This discussion about physical signals of hunger is interesting. Sometimes I KNOW I am hungry and my mouth is watering as well as my stomach kind-of clenching. That HAS to be hunger, given how much I enjoy the food then and how driven I feel to keep eating until the sensation eases. But I also know that when I smell something delectable, say a bread product baking or onions or meat frying, I can be totally uninterested in food the moment before I smell it, and as soon as the smell hits my brain, my mouth starts watering and I SO WANT IT, but my stomach isn't involved at all, and I DON'T think that is actual body hunger.

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> Jane

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I know just what you mean. I call that mouth hunger or craving and think of it as a natural response to great smelling food. I check in with myself to make sure I am not physically hungry and then just try to enjoy the sensations, knowing that I can have those foods as soon as I'm hungry for them. Sometimes I will have them anyway, but no nearly in the guilt-ridden way I used to, which actually makes me eat a lot less than I would have had they been "forbidden."

Mimi

Subject: Mouth watering?To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Thursday, August 25, 2011, 1:41 PM

This discussion about physical signals of hunger is interesting. Sometimes I KNOW I am hungry and my mouth is watering as well as my stomach kind-of clenching. That HAS to be hunger, given how much I enjoy the food then and how driven I feel to keep eating until the sensation eases. But I also know that when I smell something delectable, say a bread product baking or onions or meat frying, I can be totally uninterested in food the moment before I smell it, and as soon as the smell hits my brain, my mouth starts watering and I SO WANT IT, but my stomach isn't involved at all, and I DON'T think that is actual body hunger.Jane

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