Guest guest Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 Beautifully said, katcha! > Tai, yes there has been lots of 'scientific research' on food components - fats being one. Yet I continue to have doubts about the conclusions which are 'good' at one time and 'bad' at another. If I'm not mistaken, a current theory is that highly saturated fats - especially coconut oil - IS 'good' for our bodies. This is exactly opposite of what the 'accepted knowledge' of the times were just a few years ago when shortening was almost considered a suicide item to use (joking). > > Debating the merits or faults of any item is too diet mentality for me. I've come to accept that almost everything is a mixture of 'good and bad' qualities that also can change depending on circumstances of incident. The old adage - one man's trash is another man's treasure - comes to mind. > > Soooo, rather than chase the carrot on a stick that 'scientific studies' pump out left and right, changing left and right to boot, I am crowning my body 'supreme' for keeping me on the track I need for my health. That's what IE is for me. > > Katcha> IEing since March 2007> > >> > >> > Personally, I don't believe in the " cholesterol hypothesis " (that dietary>> > cholesterol is linked to heart disease). I think cheese is an excellent>> > thing for my body. >> > >> > Best,>> > Abby> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 no problem, katcha. I can understand what you're saying about scientific studies. However, I believe what I believe right now. Maybe I'm wrong about it -- I certainly do know from my own research that some people have high blood pressure even when they go on a salt-free diet and lose weight, and doctors say that high blood pressure can lead to serious problems, but as you say, who knows? Maybe it doesn't lead to serious problems. And I do agree that sometimes scientific thought leads in one direction while, in fact, that direction may not be right. Each of us does have to decide what medical advice we will follow when and if we go to the doctor and get tested for various things. I do believe that animal fats taken in great quantity can lead to health problems. That is my belief and others can believe what they want. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but somehow all the obesity and other ailments that are unique to American society and western culture in general would indicate that something is wrong. . All *I* said to ignite this little discussion was that I wanted to cut out the large quantity of cheese I was eating. That's all I said, and this seemed to launch a heated discussion as if I had no right to say what I think is right for MYSELF. I didn't tell anyone else they should cut out cheese from their diets. Yet I notice some people do not eat gluten because they are allergic to it. Who determines allergies? You? Me? The doctor? Our bodies? Maybe my body and mind are telling me to cut out cheese and yours tells you to keep eating cheese. That's OK, if that's what your mind/body is telling you to do. Mine tells me to stop eating so much of it, even though I will be having a slice of pizza with cheese soon. If others want to eat vast quantities of cheese, sugar, flour, that is their decision. But when a person goes to the doctor and finds he has diabetes, he has a choice. He can cut down on his sugar intake, or he can take insulin. Same with animal fats. If the doctor says the patient has high cholesterol, he may be advised to change his diet, i.e., eating habits. Sometimes cutting out all animal products is said to reduce diabetes and other illnesses, which are thought to be caused by inordinate eating problems and habits pushed upon us by society. I am not a vegan, but have no problem with those that are, and sometimes wish I could be a vegan, but right now I am not one because I like chicken, fish, and cheese too much. But I am working on changing my eating habits because == I don't WANT to eat lots of steak and hamburgers, even though I'll enjoy them from time to time. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 7:21 PMSubject: Re: Re: Cholesterol Beautifully said, katcha! > Tai, yes there has been lots of 'scientific research' on food components - fats being one. Yet I continue to have doubts about the conclusions which are 'good' at one time and 'bad' at another. If I'm not mistaken, a current theory is that highly saturated fats - especially coconut oil - IS 'good' for our bodies. This is exactly opposite of what the 'accepted knowledge' of the times were just a few years ago when shortening was almost considered a suicide item to use (joking). > > Debating the merits or faults of any item is too diet mentality for me. I've come to accept that almost everything is a mixture of 'good and bad' qualities that also can change depending on circumstances of incident. The old adage - one man's trash is another man's treasure - comes to mind. > > Soooo, rather than chase the carrot on a stick that 'scientific studies' pump out left and right, changing left and right to boot, I am crowning my body 'supreme' for keeping me on the track I need for my health. That's what IE is for me.> > Katcha> IEing since March 2007> > >> >>> > Personally, I don't believe in the "cholesterol hypothesis" (that dietary>> > cholesterol is linked to heart disease). I think cheese is an excellent>> > thing for my body.>> > >> > Best,>> > Abby> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 Tai, I don't think you have to justify what you said. Perhaps it was just misinterpreted by some. It sure did push a few buttons but I think that might have been other's problems and it enhanced our awareness. Sandy no problem, katcha. I can understand what you're saying about scientific studies. However, I believe what I believe right now. Maybe I'm wrong about it -- I certainly do know from my own research that some people have high blood pressure even when they go on a salt-free diet and lose weight, and doctors say that high blood pressure can lead to serious problems, but as you say, who knows? Maybe it doesn't lead to serious problems. And I do agree that sometimes scientific thought leads in one direction while, in fact, that direction may not be right. Each of us does have to decide what medical advice we will follow when and if we go to the doctor and get tested for various things. I do believe that animal fats taken in great quantity can lead to health problems. That is my belief and others can believe what they want. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but somehow all the obesity and other ailments that are unique to American society and western culture in general would indicate that something is wrong. . All *I* said to ignite this little discussion was that I wanted to cut out the large quantity of cheese I was eating. That's all I said, and this seemed to launch a heated discussion as if I had no right to say what I think is right for MYSELF. I didn't tell anyone else they should cut out cheese from their diets. Yet I notice some people do not eat gluten because they are allergic to it. Who determines allergies? You? Me? The doctor? Our bodies? Maybe my body and mind are telling me to cut out cheese and yours tells you to keep eating cheese. That's OK, if that's what your mind/body is telling you to do. Mine tells me to stop eating so much of it, even though I will be having a slice of pizza with cheese soon. If others want to eat vast quantities of cheese, sugar, flour, that is their decision. But when a person goes to the doctor and finds he has diabetes, he has a choice. He can cut down on his sugar intake, or he can take insulin. Same with animal fats. If the doctor says the patient has high cholesterol, he may be advised to change his diet, i.e., eating habits. Sometimes cutting out all animal products is said to reduce diabetes and other illnesses, which are thought to be caused by inordinate eating problems and habits pushed upon us by society. I am not a vegan, but have no problem with those that are, and sometimes wish I could be a vegan, but right now I am not one because I like chicken, fish, and cheese too much. But I am working on changing my eating habits because == I don't WANT to eat lots of steak and hamburgers, even though I'll enjoy them from time to time. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 7:21 PM Subject: Re: Re: Cholesterol Beautifully said, katcha! > Tai, yes there has been lots of 'scientific research' on food components - fats being one. Yet I continue to have doubts about the conclusions which are 'good' at one time and 'bad' at another. If I'm not mistaken, a current theory is that highly saturated fats - especially coconut oil - IS 'good' for our bodies. This is exactly opposite of what the 'accepted knowledge' of the times were just a few years ago when shortening was almost considered a suicide item to use (joking). > > Debating the merits or faults of any item is too diet mentality for me. I've come to accept that almost everything is a mixture of 'good and bad' qualities that also can change depending on circumstances of incident. The old adage - one man's trash is another man's treasure - comes to mind. > > Soooo, rather than chase the carrot on a stick that 'scientific studies' pump out left and right, changing left and right to boot, I am crowning my body 'supreme' for keeping me on the track I need for my health. That's what IE is for me. > > Katcha> IEing since March 2007> > >> >>> > Personally, I don't believe in the " cholesterol hypothesis " (that dietary>> > cholesterol is linked to heart disease). I think cheese is an excellent >> > thing for my body.>> > >> > Best,>> > Abby> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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