Re: Some successes... and some challenges...

[Guest guest]

> And, where does thinking about that

stupid crepe fit in IE when I'm "supposed" to eat only when I'm

hungry?

What if... that was your body checking to find out whether or not

you're serious about listening to it? You failed the test :-)

Or maybe... your body really did want the crepe?

What if... you make a special trip today to go there and eat the

crepe? You may find it is perfect, or you may find you don't like it

after all. Either way, you will learn something -- and get to have

your crepe!

Paddy

[Guest guest]

I agree with Paddy!

Go make a special trip just for YOU to have that crepe!

Best,

Abby

>> > And, where does thinking about that stupid crepe fit in IE

>> when I'm " supposed " to eat only when I'm hungry?> > What if... that was your body checking to find out whether or not> you're serious about listening to it? You failed the test :-)

> > Or maybe... your body really did want the crepe?> > What if... you make a special trip today to go there and eat the> crepe? You may find it is perfect, or you may find you don't like

> it after all. Either way, you will learn something -- and get to> have your crepe!> > Paddy

[Guest guest]

I agree with Paddy!

Go make a special trip just for YOU to have that crepe!

Best,

Abby

>> > And, where does thinking about that stupid crepe fit in IE

>> when I'm " supposed " to eat only when I'm hungry?> > What if... that was your body checking to find out whether or not> you're serious about listening to it? You failed the test :-)

> > Or maybe... your body really did want the crepe?> > What if... you make a special trip today to go there and eat the> crepe? You may find it is perfect, or you may find you don't like

> it after all. Either way, you will learn something -- and get to> have your crepe!> > Paddy

[Guest guest]

I agree with Paddy!

Go make a special trip just for YOU to have that crepe!

Best,

Abby

>> > And, where does thinking about that stupid crepe fit in IE

>> when I'm " supposed " to eat only when I'm hungry?> > What if... that was your body checking to find out whether or not> you're serious about listening to it? You failed the test :-)

> > Or maybe... your body really did want the crepe?> > What if... you make a special trip today to go there and eat the> crepe? You may find it is perfect, or you may find you don't like

> it after all. Either way, you will learn something -- and get to> have your crepe!> > Paddy

[Guest guest]

Sandarah, I'm discovering that I'm probably less tolerant of gluten too. Its a

huge challenge for me because I have always enjoyed baking and am finding GF

baking to be, for the most part, less satisfying than what I want my selected

YUMS! to be. Just recently I found myself focused on making a chocolate cake. I

couldn't get it out of my mind no matter how much I reminded myself that it

wasn't GF. After a few days of gnawing at this and that - full well knowing that

I was NOT hungry for this and that - I finally made the cake and yummed my way

thru the first two pieces. Of course my body reminded me that it didn't

appreciate the cake as much as my mind did, but at least now I am able to leave

the rest of the cake in the freezer just in case I have another road side rest

on my IE journey.

I do hope that you can return to the restaurant and have that crepe! If its

great you may want to give a go at making these at home. Just sub rice (or

whatever alternative to wheat that you tolerate) in the egg batter.

Good job being aware!

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> ... in all the years I've been gluten intolerant, I've never had a gluten

free crepe. It's haunting me. Will it be delicious?

> Sandarah

>

[Guest guest]

Sandarah, I'm discovering that I'm probably less tolerant of gluten too. Its a

huge challenge for me because I have always enjoyed baking and am finding GF

baking to be, for the most part, less satisfying than what I want my selected

YUMS! to be. Just recently I found myself focused on making a chocolate cake. I

couldn't get it out of my mind no matter how much I reminded myself that it

wasn't GF. After a few days of gnawing at this and that - full well knowing that

I was NOT hungry for this and that - I finally made the cake and yummed my way

thru the first two pieces. Of course my body reminded me that it didn't

appreciate the cake as much as my mind did, but at least now I am able to leave

the rest of the cake in the freezer just in case I have another road side rest

on my IE journey.

I do hope that you can return to the restaurant and have that crepe! If its

great you may want to give a go at making these at home. Just sub rice (or

whatever alternative to wheat that you tolerate) in the egg batter.

Good job being aware!

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> ... in all the years I've been gluten intolerant, I've never had a gluten

free crepe. It's haunting me. Will it be delicious?

> Sandarah

>

[Guest guest]

Sandarah, I'm discovering that I'm probably less tolerant of gluten too. Its a

huge challenge for me because I have always enjoyed baking and am finding GF

baking to be, for the most part, less satisfying than what I want my selected

YUMS! to be. Just recently I found myself focused on making a chocolate cake. I

couldn't get it out of my mind no matter how much I reminded myself that it

wasn't GF. After a few days of gnawing at this and that - full well knowing that

I was NOT hungry for this and that - I finally made the cake and yummed my way

thru the first two pieces. Of course my body reminded me that it didn't

appreciate the cake as much as my mind did, but at least now I am able to leave

the rest of the cake in the freezer just in case I have another road side rest

on my IE journey.

I do hope that you can return to the restaurant and have that crepe! If its

great you may want to give a go at making these at home. Just sub rice (or

whatever alternative to wheat that you tolerate) in the egg batter.

Good job being aware!

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> ... in all the years I've been gluten intolerant, I've never had a gluten

free crepe. It's haunting me. Will it be delicious?

> Sandarah

>

[Guest guest]

I think you're all probably right about this and I do need to try it and get it

out of my system. This level of food rule confusion plays havoc with my control

issues around getting IE right. I guess this is all of the old diet mentality

mixing in with a rusted-out intuitive connection that needs a lot of tweaking.

This after many, many years of struggling with NOT eating flour-based foods and

feeling deprived not simply because of how my body feels but because these are

all foods that diets eschew as well. So I shouldn't and I can't.... and I will

- because I'm a diet rebel. Rebel without a crepe.

Well, blah, blah blah.... The GF crepe is in the town where I work and next week

some time I'm going to march in there and order whichever one looks best. I

haven't gotten clear enough to ask my body, " is this what you really want?? "

when it comes to the newest GF goodie and maybe for now that's not the point.

That's probably graduate level IE; I'm still flopping around in kindergarten.

Thanks for the feedback; time to meet some friends for lunch. Gulp. After I've

" failed " to do IE perfectly (I know...), it's hard to get back in the saddle the

day after. I feel bummed out for failing again and will need to address that

there's no failing here, even though I don't believe it yet.

Sandarah.

> >

> > ... in all the years I've been gluten intolerant, I've never had a gluten

free crepe. It's haunting me. Will it be delicious?

> > Sandarah

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I think you're all probably right about this and I do need to try it and get it

out of my system. This level of food rule confusion plays havoc with my control

issues around getting IE right. I guess this is all of the old diet mentality

mixing in with a rusted-out intuitive connection that needs a lot of tweaking.

This after many, many years of struggling with NOT eating flour-based foods and

feeling deprived not simply because of how my body feels but because these are

all foods that diets eschew as well. So I shouldn't and I can't.... and I will

- because I'm a diet rebel. Rebel without a crepe.

Well, blah, blah blah.... The GF crepe is in the town where I work and next week

some time I'm going to march in there and order whichever one looks best. I

haven't gotten clear enough to ask my body, " is this what you really want?? "

when it comes to the newest GF goodie and maybe for now that's not the point.

That's probably graduate level IE; I'm still flopping around in kindergarten.

Thanks for the feedback; time to meet some friends for lunch. Gulp. After I've

" failed " to do IE perfectly (I know...), it's hard to get back in the saddle the

day after. I feel bummed out for failing again and will need to address that

there's no failing here, even though I don't believe it yet.

Sandarah.

> >

> > ... in all the years I've been gluten intolerant, I've never had a gluten

free crepe. It's haunting me. Will it be delicious?

> > Sandarah

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I think you're all probably right about this and I do need to try it and get it

out of my system. This level of food rule confusion plays havoc with my control

issues around getting IE right. I guess this is all of the old diet mentality

mixing in with a rusted-out intuitive connection that needs a lot of tweaking.

This after many, many years of struggling with NOT eating flour-based foods and

feeling deprived not simply because of how my body feels but because these are

all foods that diets eschew as well. So I shouldn't and I can't.... and I will

- because I'm a diet rebel. Rebel without a crepe.

Well, blah, blah blah.... The GF crepe is in the town where I work and next week

some time I'm going to march in there and order whichever one looks best. I

haven't gotten clear enough to ask my body, " is this what you really want?? "

when it comes to the newest GF goodie and maybe for now that's not the point.

That's probably graduate level IE; I'm still flopping around in kindergarten.

Thanks for the feedback; time to meet some friends for lunch. Gulp. After I've

" failed " to do IE perfectly (I know...), it's hard to get back in the saddle the

day after. I feel bummed out for failing again and will need to address that

there's no failing here, even though I don't believe it yet.

Sandarah.

> >

> > ... in all the years I've been gluten intolerant, I've never had a gluten

free crepe. It's haunting me. Will it be delicious?

> > Sandarah

> >

>

[Guest guest]

If you want to eat the GF crepe, I think you have the right to do so. I don't do IE perfectly, still working on stopping, but I will allow myself to have a donut when i want to and now I don't want to eat so much cheese. So far I don't know about any food allergies for myself. If you have the crepe, I hope you enjoy it, and it's good. Tai

> > > >> > ... in all the years I've been gluten intolerant, I've never had a gluten free crepe. It's haunting me. Will it be delicious?> > Sandarah> >>

[Guest guest]

If you HAVE TO HAVE that crepe, then have it. and hopefully you will enjoy it. You'll figure it out, maybe the experience will help you if you have it when you are basically not hungry, but you just must have it. I've been there and I try not to feel guilty because I knew I just had to have it. It gets better. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 2:15 AMSubject: Re: Some successes... and some challenges...

> And, where does thinking about that stupid crepe fit in IE when I'm "supposed" to eat only when I'm hungry?What if... that was your body checking to find out whether or not you're serious about listening to it? You failed the test :-) Or maybe... your body really did want the crepe?What if... you make a special trip today to go there and eat the crepe? You may find it is perfect, or you may find you don't like it after all. Either way, you will learn something -- and get to have your crepe!Paddy

[Guest guest]

If you HAVE TO HAVE that crepe, then have it. and hopefully you will enjoy it. You'll figure it out, maybe the experience will help you if you have it when you are basically not hungry, but you just must have it. I've been there and I try not to feel guilty because I knew I just had to have it. It gets better. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 2:15 AMSubject: Re: Some successes... and some challenges...

> And, where does thinking about that stupid crepe fit in IE when I'm "supposed" to eat only when I'm hungry?What if... that was your body checking to find out whether or not you're serious about listening to it? You failed the test :-) Or maybe... your body really did want the crepe?What if... you make a special trip today to go there and eat the crepe? You may find it is perfect, or you may find you don't like it after all. Either way, you will learn something -- and get to have your crepe!Paddy

[Guest guest]

If you HAVE TO HAVE that crepe, then have it. and hopefully you will enjoy it. You'll figure it out, maybe the experience will help you if you have it when you are basically not hungry, but you just must have it. I've been there and I try not to feel guilty because I knew I just had to have it. It gets better. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 2:15 AMSubject: Re: Some successes... and some challenges...

> And, where does thinking about that stupid crepe fit in IE when I'm "supposed" to eat only when I'm hungry?What if... that was your body checking to find out whether or not you're serious about listening to it? You failed the test :-) Or maybe... your body really did want the crepe?What if... you make a special trip today to go there and eat the crepe? You may find it is perfect, or you may find you don't like it after all. Either way, you will learn something -- and get to have your crepe!Paddy

[Guest guest]

I think it's all about experimenting and deciding what's right for you and you body. You were intrigued by the crepe, but your food rules got in the way. Totally understandable, as IE IMO is always a work-in-progress. I think eating something that is less than satisfying triggers us to go on the "hunt" for what we really want -- in your case, that crepe. Sometimes, I think that instinct to be satisfied will override the "eat only when hungrey" rubric that we usually live by. That's OK, it's just another clue that your body, rather than your mind, really does know what it wants. I think it's great to keep learning about ourselves through IE.

Mimi

Subject: Some successes... and some challenges...To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Saturday, August 27, 2011, 1:40 AM

This morning I had what sounded good for breakfast; ate a reasonable portion, found I was still feeling hungry, or not quite satisfied. Didn't know for sure if it was real, or just my head. Ate 1/2 of a muffin and then felt great. My body does know and I'm learning how to listen.But... at lunch I waited til hungry, not starving but ready to eat. Went out to eat with a friend at a pre-plannned place. When we got there I saw they had gluten-free crepes on the menu. Wow! But my diet head kicked in, "that would be too sweet", "you can't have that for lunch", "how can you eat that and get enough protein to balance it!", "you can't eat that in front of HER!" So, I ate a lunch that I'd thought I wanted but it didn't hit the spot at all; I kept thinking about that crepe. When she drove away, I went to an espresso stand and bought a latte milkshake hoping to trade that for the crepe I'd wanted earlier. It was the only "semi-legal"

thing I could think of that I hoped would satisfy my craving for that stupid crepe. Crazy thoughts and crazy choices and a milkshake of all things. So... I have a question... What if I'd eaten the crepe? It's not that I've never had a dessert for lunch before - well not that I can remember ever doing that in front of someone... But here's part of it - in all the years I've been gluten intolerant, I've never had a gluten free crepe. It's haunting me. Will it be delicious? And, where does thinking about that stupid crepe fit in IE when I'm "supposed" to eat only when I'm hungry? Anyone? Thanks; hope everyone on the Eastern seaboard is safe and sound.Sandarah

[Guest guest]

I think it's all about experimenting and deciding what's right for you and you body. You were intrigued by the crepe, but your food rules got in the way. Totally understandable, as IE IMO is always a work-in-progress. I think eating something that is less than satisfying triggers us to go on the "hunt" for what we really want -- in your case, that crepe. Sometimes, I think that instinct to be satisfied will override the "eat only when hungrey" rubric that we usually live by. That's OK, it's just another clue that your body, rather than your mind, really does know what it wants. I think it's great to keep learning about ourselves through IE.

Mimi

Subject: Some successes... and some challenges...To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Saturday, August 27, 2011, 1:40 AM

This morning I had what sounded good for breakfast; ate a reasonable portion, found I was still feeling hungry, or not quite satisfied. Didn't know for sure if it was real, or just my head. Ate 1/2 of a muffin and then felt great. My body does know and I'm learning how to listen.But... at lunch I waited til hungry, not starving but ready to eat. Went out to eat with a friend at a pre-plannned place. When we got there I saw they had gluten-free crepes on the menu. Wow! But my diet head kicked in, "that would be too sweet", "you can't have that for lunch", "how can you eat that and get enough protein to balance it!", "you can't eat that in front of HER!" So, I ate a lunch that I'd thought I wanted but it didn't hit the spot at all; I kept thinking about that crepe. When she drove away, I went to an espresso stand and bought a latte milkshake hoping to trade that for the crepe I'd wanted earlier. It was the only "semi-legal"

thing I could think of that I hoped would satisfy my craving for that stupid crepe. Crazy thoughts and crazy choices and a milkshake of all things. So... I have a question... What if I'd eaten the crepe? It's not that I've never had a dessert for lunch before - well not that I can remember ever doing that in front of someone... But here's part of it - in all the years I've been gluten intolerant, I've never had a gluten free crepe. It's haunting me. Will it be delicious? And, where does thinking about that stupid crepe fit in IE when I'm "supposed" to eat only when I'm hungry? Anyone? Thanks; hope everyone on the Eastern seaboard is safe and sound.Sandarah

[Guest guest]

Hmmm, good points all. Probably it was my body and I just can't hear anything

that legalizes the formerly forbidden - yet.

>

>

>

> Subject: Some successes... and some challenges...

> To: IntuitiveEating_Support

> Date: Saturday, August 27, 2011, 1:40 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> This morning I had what sounded good for breakfast; ate a reasonable portion,

found I was still feeling hungry, or not quite satisfied. Didn't know for sure

if it was real, or just my head. Ate 1/2 of a muffin and then felt great. My

body does know and I'm learning how to listen.

>

> But... at lunch I waited til hungry, not starving but ready to eat. Went out

to eat with a friend at a pre-plannned place. When we got there I saw they had

gluten-free crepes on the menu. Wow!

>

> But my diet head kicked in, " that would be too sweet " , " you can't have that

for lunch " , " how can you eat that and get enough protein to balance it! " , " you

can't eat that in front of HER! "

>

> So, I ate a lunch that I'd thought I wanted but it didn't hit the spot at all;

I kept thinking about that crepe. When she drove away, I went to an espresso

stand and bought a latte milkshake hoping to trade that for the crepe I'd wanted

earlier. It was the only " semi-legal " thing I could think of that I hoped would

satisfy my craving for that stupid crepe. Crazy thoughts and crazy choices and a

milkshake of all things.

>

> So... I have a question... What if I'd eaten the crepe? It's not that I've

never had a dessert for lunch before - well not that I can remember ever doing

that in front of someone... But here's part of it - in all the years I've been

gluten intolerant, I've never had a gluten free crepe. It's haunting me. Will it

be delicious? And, where does thinking about that stupid crepe fit in IE when

I'm " supposed " to eat only when I'm hungry? Anyone?

>

> Thanks; hope everyone on the Eastern seaboard is safe and sound.

> Sandarah

>

[Guest guest]

If I'm learning about myself, I don't judge others. I do what is right for me.

*I* wouldn't feed my kids a steady diet of junk, so why would I feed myself a

steady diet of junk? If I can't stop eating what I believe is bad for me, it

means I'm addicted to that food. That's what OA taught me. Food has power over

me, and each one of us must approach our food addiction in a different way. For

instance, some theories are that the alcoholic should keep a bottle in the house

to prove that he can stay away from it. Others believe they should not have

alcohol in the house. And yet others believe, as IE does, once the proper

attitude is taken towards alcohol, a person can drink normally. Each one must

think for himself. Alcohol is not bad in itself, but it's addictive for certain

people. They KNOW it's not good for them (it can be GOOD for others, but not

good for them, so they don't judge others who drink), but feel a strong strong

urge to drink regardless of the consequences.

[Guest guest]

sanamu, Sometimes I really want a particular food and resist it as if it is forbidden(diet mentality), and then I go ahead and eat it(but usually with guilt) only to discover it wasn't as good as I thought it would be.  Or I re-discover how awful it makes me feel.  That is part of the learning process, and relearning process. It took me a long time and many trials to finally remember that donuts, pancakes, chips and more fall into the category of foods that don't honor my body and make me feel awful.  I know I can have those items if I want them, but I remind myself of their effects. Putting foods in a forbidden category makes me want it all the more.  I think you are doing great.  Remember IE is a never ending journey, process.   It is not a goal as I see it.  Perhaps I will never arrive at perfect and that's ok. Sandy

 

Hmmm, good points all. Probably it was my body and I just can't hear anything that legalizes the formerly forbidden - yet.

>

>

>

> Subject: Some successes... and some challenges...

> To: IntuitiveEating_Support

> Date: Saturday, August 27, 2011, 1:40 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> This morning I had what sounded good for breakfast; ate a reasonable portion, found I was still feeling hungry, or not quite satisfied. Didn't know for sure if it was real, or just my head. Ate 1/2 of a muffin and then felt great. My body does know and I'm learning how to listen.

>

> But... at lunch I waited til hungry, not starving but ready to eat. Went out to eat with a friend at a pre-plannned place. When we got there I saw they had gluten-free crepes on the menu. Wow!

>

> But my diet head kicked in, " that would be too sweet " , " you can't have that for lunch " , " how can you eat that and get enough protein to balance it! " , " you can't eat that in front of HER! "

>

> So, I ate a lunch that I'd thought I wanted but it didn't hit the spot at all; I kept thinking about that crepe. When she drove away, I went to an espresso stand and bought a latte milkshake hoping to trade that for the crepe I'd wanted earlier. It was the only " semi-legal " thing I could think of that I hoped would satisfy my craving for that stupid crepe. Crazy thoughts and crazy choices and a milkshake of all things.

>

> So... I have a question... What if I'd eaten the crepe? It's not that I've never had a dessert for lunch before - well not that I can remember ever doing that in front of someone... But here's part of it - in all the years I've been gluten intolerant, I've never had a gluten free crepe. It's haunting me. Will it be delicious? And, where does thinking about that stupid crepe fit in IE when I'm " supposed " to eat only when I'm hungry? Anyone?

>

> Thanks; hope everyone on the Eastern seaboard is safe and sound.

> Sandarah

>

[Guest guest]

Oh, I know exactly what you're talking about. Sometimes I'd end up eating five

or six different things when really what I wanted was ____. I'm trying really

hard to identify what it is that I REALLY want, so that I can eat that and be

done with it. Great processing. Will you have a chance to go back there and

try it?

[Guest guest]

It's not far from where I work; interesting thing is, I'm not craving it. I

think it may have been something my body actually wanted in the moment and I

crowded that out with all of my diet thinking. It would have never occurred to

me that my body actually might want it - and be able to handle it. So... some

day if it calls to me... I sure with this thing were simple, being full of

nuances wreaks havoc with my control issues... Thanks.

>

> Oh, I know exactly what you're talking about. Sometimes I'd end up eating

five or six different things when really what I wanted was ____. I'm trying

really hard to identify what it is that I REALLY want, so that I can eat that

and be done with it. Great processing. Will you have a chance to go back there

and try it?

>

[Guest guest]

It's not far from where I work; interesting thing is, I'm not craving it. I

think it may have been something my body actually wanted in the moment and I

crowded that out with all of my diet thinking. It would have never occurred to

me that my body actually might want it - and be able to handle it. So... some

day if it calls to me... I sure with this thing were simple, being full of

nuances wreaks havoc with my control issues... Thanks.

>

> Oh, I know exactly what you're talking about. Sometimes I'd end up eating

five or six different things when really what I wanted was ____. I'm trying

really hard to identify what it is that I REALLY want, so that I can eat that

and be done with it. Great processing. Will you have a chance to go back there

and try it?

>

[Guest guest]

I don't think the food/alcohol analogy is a perfect one. Alcohol is something you can technically restrain yourself from for the rest of your life; food is not. Part of IE, for me, is that we are not powerless over food and that not being able to stop is a symptom of food restriction and deprivation.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Some successes... and some challenges...To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 11:32 PM

If I'm learning about myself, I don't judge others. I do what is right for me. *I* wouldn't feed my kids a steady diet of junk, so why would I feed myself a steady diet of junk? If I can't stop eating what I believe is bad for me, it means I'm addicted to that food. That's what OA taught me. Food has power over me, and each one of us must approach our food addiction in a different way. For instance, some theories are that the alcoholic should keep a bottle in the house to prove that he can stay away from it. Others believe they should not have alcohol in the house. And yet others believe, as IE does, once the proper attitude is taken towards alcohol, a person can drink normally. Each one must think for himself. Alcohol is not bad in itself, but it's addictive for certain people. They KNOW it's not good for them (it can be GOOD for others, but not good for them, so they don't judge others who drink), but feel a strong strong urge to drink regardless

of the consequences.

[Guest guest]

I don't think the food/alcohol analogy is a perfect one. Alcohol is something you can technically restrain yourself from for the rest of your life; food is not. Part of IE, for me, is that we are not powerless over food and that not being able to stop is a symptom of food restriction and deprivation.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Some successes... and some challenges...To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 11:32 PM

If I'm learning about myself, I don't judge others. I do what is right for me. *I* wouldn't feed my kids a steady diet of junk, so why would I feed myself a steady diet of junk? If I can't stop eating what I believe is bad for me, it means I'm addicted to that food. That's what OA taught me. Food has power over me, and each one of us must approach our food addiction in a different way. For instance, some theories are that the alcoholic should keep a bottle in the house to prove that he can stay away from it. Others believe they should not have alcohol in the house. And yet others believe, as IE does, once the proper attitude is taken towards alcohol, a person can drink normally. Each one must think for himself. Alcohol is not bad in itself, but it's addictive for certain people. They KNOW it's not good for them (it can be GOOD for others, but not good for them, so they don't judge others who drink), but feel a strong strong urge to drink regardless

of the consequences.

[Guest guest]

I don't think the food/alcohol analogy is a perfect one. Alcohol is something you can technically restrain yourself from for the rest of your life; food is not. Part of IE, for me, is that we are not powerless over food and that not being able to stop is a symptom of food restriction and deprivation.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Some successes... and some challenges...To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 11:32 PM

If I'm learning about myself, I don't judge others. I do what is right for me. *I* wouldn't feed my kids a steady diet of junk, so why would I feed myself a steady diet of junk? If I can't stop eating what I believe is bad for me, it means I'm addicted to that food. That's what OA taught me. Food has power over me, and each one of us must approach our food addiction in a different way. For instance, some theories are that the alcoholic should keep a bottle in the house to prove that he can stay away from it. Others believe they should not have alcohol in the house. And yet others believe, as IE does, once the proper attitude is taken towards alcohol, a person can drink normally. Each one must think for himself. Alcohol is not bad in itself, but it's addictive for certain people. They KNOW it's not good for them (it can be GOOD for others, but not good for them, so they don't judge others who drink), but feel a strong strong urge to drink regardless

of the consequences.