Re: Some successes... and some challenges...

[Guest guest]

I do appreciate that many of the things that Tribole and Resch teach, the authors of Intuitive Eating, are in harmony with what I believe but it seems that I'm touching on a raw nerve with some. I'm reading it the 2nd time around, and it is eye-opening for me this time around, much more so than the first time I read it. I also checked out Gillian's website promoting her concept, books, seminars, etc. and found it interesting. I also noticed she talks of getting to your natural weight, speaks of weight gain and how a person can lose weight by eating the foods they love. I notice many have conflicting views concerning what the IE teachers promote. Generally speaking I like freedom of speech. If I am wrong, I am happy to be corrected. I will

mention that my feelings were hurt when I received so much flack about my stated desire to cut down on saturated fats (as recommended in the IE book and which I supported), so while I appreciate the background and concept of intuitive eating, I believe I am really out of my element here. No insult intended. I did have a slice of pizza with cheese for breakfast today (yum) and a sliced mango. I really do wish the best for everyone here. Tai

To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 10:54 AMSubject: Re: Re: Some successes... and some challenges...

Are we allowed to mention OA or other types of mentalities? Can I quote from IE books and speak of what I have learned?

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 10:32 AMSubject: Re: Re: Some successes... and some challenges...

Our list owner has requested that we not use the addiction analogy for the reasons that Mimi states below. the idea of being powerless over food can be triggering for some folks and is a topic better suited to OA or other groups.

best,

Abby

IE moderator hat on

I don't think the food/alcohol analogy is a perfect one. Alcohol is something you can technically restrain yourself from for the rest of your life; food is not. Part of IE, for me, is that we are not powerless over food and that not being able to stop is a symptom of food restriction and deprivation.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Some successes... and some challenges... To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 11:32 PM

If I'm learning about myself, I don't judge others. I do what is right for me. *I* wouldn't feed my kids a steady diet of junk, so why would I feed myself a steady diet of junk? If I can't stop eating what I believe is bad for me, it means I'm addicted to that food. That's what OA taught me. Food has power over me, and each one of us must approach our food addiction in a different way. For instance, some theories are that the alcoholic should keep a bottle in the house to prove that he can stay away from it. Others believe they should not have alcohol in the house. And yet others believe, as IE does, once the proper attitude is taken towards alcohol, a person can drink normally. Each one must think for himself. Alcohol is not bad in itself, but it's addictive for certain people. They KNOW it's not good for them (it can be GOOD for others, but not good for them, so they don't judge others who drink), but feel a strong strong urge to drink regardless

of the consequences.

[Guest guest]

I do appreciate that many of the things that Tribole and Resch teach, the authors of Intuitive Eating, are in harmony with what I believe but it seems that I'm touching on a raw nerve with some. I'm reading it the 2nd time around, and it is eye-opening for me this time around, much more so than the first time I read it. I also checked out Gillian's website promoting her concept, books, seminars, etc. and found it interesting. I also noticed she talks of getting to your natural weight, speaks of weight gain and how a person can lose weight by eating the foods they love. I notice many have conflicting views concerning what the IE teachers promote. Generally speaking I like freedom of speech. If I am wrong, I am happy to be corrected. I will

mention that my feelings were hurt when I received so much flack about my stated desire to cut down on saturated fats (as recommended in the IE book and which I supported), so while I appreciate the background and concept of intuitive eating, I believe I am really out of my element here. No insult intended. I did have a slice of pizza with cheese for breakfast today (yum) and a sliced mango. I really do wish the best for everyone here. Tai

To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 10:54 AMSubject: Re: Re: Some successes... and some challenges...

Are we allowed to mention OA or other types of mentalities? Can I quote from IE books and speak of what I have learned?

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 10:32 AMSubject: Re: Re: Some successes... and some challenges...

Our list owner has requested that we not use the addiction analogy for the reasons that Mimi states below. the idea of being powerless over food can be triggering for some folks and is a topic better suited to OA or other groups.

best,

Abby

IE moderator hat on

I don't think the food/alcohol analogy is a perfect one. Alcohol is something you can technically restrain yourself from for the rest of your life; food is not. Part of IE, for me, is that we are not powerless over food and that not being able to stop is a symptom of food restriction and deprivation.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Some successes... and some challenges... To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 11:32 PM

If I'm learning about myself, I don't judge others. I do what is right for me. *I* wouldn't feed my kids a steady diet of junk, so why would I feed myself a steady diet of junk? If I can't stop eating what I believe is bad for me, it means I'm addicted to that food. That's what OA taught me. Food has power over me, and each one of us must approach our food addiction in a different way. For instance, some theories are that the alcoholic should keep a bottle in the house to prove that he can stay away from it. Others believe they should not have alcohol in the house. And yet others believe, as IE does, once the proper attitude is taken towards alcohol, a person can drink normally. Each one must think for himself. Alcohol is not bad in itself, but it's addictive for certain people. They KNOW it's not good for them (it can be GOOD for others, but not good for them, so they don't judge others who drink), but feel a strong strong urge to drink regardless

of the consequences.

[Guest guest]

I do appreciate that many of the things that Tribole and Resch teach, the authors of Intuitive Eating, are in harmony with what I believe but it seems that I'm touching on a raw nerve with some. I'm reading it the 2nd time around, and it is eye-opening for me this time around, much more so than the first time I read it. I also checked out Gillian's website promoting her concept, books, seminars, etc. and found it interesting. I also noticed she talks of getting to your natural weight, speaks of weight gain and how a person can lose weight by eating the foods they love. I notice many have conflicting views concerning what the IE teachers promote. Generally speaking I like freedom of speech. If I am wrong, I am happy to be corrected. I will

mention that my feelings were hurt when I received so much flack about my stated desire to cut down on saturated fats (as recommended in the IE book and which I supported), so while I appreciate the background and concept of intuitive eating, I believe I am really out of my element here. No insult intended. I did have a slice of pizza with cheese for breakfast today (yum) and a sliced mango. I really do wish the best for everyone here. Tai

To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 10:54 AMSubject: Re: Re: Some successes... and some challenges...

Are we allowed to mention OA or other types of mentalities? Can I quote from IE books and speak of what I have learned?

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 10:32 AMSubject: Re: Re: Some successes... and some challenges...

Our list owner has requested that we not use the addiction analogy for the reasons that Mimi states below. the idea of being powerless over food can be triggering for some folks and is a topic better suited to OA or other groups.

best,

Abby

IE moderator hat on

I don't think the food/alcohol analogy is a perfect one. Alcohol is something you can technically restrain yourself from for the rest of your life; food is not. Part of IE, for me, is that we are not powerless over food and that not being able to stop is a symptom of food restriction and deprivation.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Some successes... and some challenges... To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 11:32 PM

If I'm learning about myself, I don't judge others. I do what is right for me. *I* wouldn't feed my kids a steady diet of junk, so why would I feed myself a steady diet of junk? If I can't stop eating what I believe is bad for me, it means I'm addicted to that food. That's what OA taught me. Food has power over me, and each one of us must approach our food addiction in a different way. For instance, some theories are that the alcoholic should keep a bottle in the house to prove that he can stay away from it. Others believe they should not have alcohol in the house. And yet others believe, as IE does, once the proper attitude is taken towards alcohol, a person can drink normally. Each one must think for himself. Alcohol is not bad in itself, but it's addictive for certain people. They KNOW it's not good for them (it can be GOOD for others, but not good for them, so they don't judge others who drink), but feel a strong strong urge to drink regardless

of the consequences.

[Guest guest]

Tai, Cheese pizza for breakfast.  When my youngest son was around 2 or 3 that is all he ever ate for breakfast.  Sandy

 

I do appreciate that many of the things that Tribole and Resch teach, the authors of Intuitive Eating, are in harmony with what I believe but it seems that I'm touching on a raw nerve with some. I'm reading it the 2nd time around, and it is eye-opening for me this time around, much more so than the first time I read it. I also checked out Gillian's website promoting her concept, books, seminars, etc. and found it interesting. I also noticed she talks of getting to your natural weight, speaks of weight gain and how a person can lose weight by eating the foods they love. I notice many have conflicting views concerning what the IE teachers promote. Generally speaking I like freedom of speech. If I am wrong, I am happy to be corrected. I will

mention that my feelings were hurt when I received so much flack about my stated desire to cut down on saturated fats (as recommended in the IE book and which I supported), so while I appreciate the background and concept of intuitive eating, I believe I am really out of my element here. No insult intended. I did have a slice of pizza with cheese for breakfast today (yum) and a sliced mango. I really do wish the best for everyone here. Tai

To: " IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >

Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 10:54 AMSubject: Re: Re: Some successes... and some challenges...

 

Are we allowed to mention OA or other types of mentalities? Can I quote from IE books and speak of what I have learned?

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 10:32 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Some successes... and some challenges...

 

Our list owner has requested that we not use the addiction analogy for the reasons that Mimi states below. the idea of being powerless over food can be triggering for some folks and is a topic better suited to OA or other groups.

best,

Abby

IE moderator hat on 

 

I don't think the food/alcohol analogy is a perfect one. Alcohol is something you can technically restrain yourself from for the rest of your life; food is not. Part of IE, for me, is that we are not powerless over food and that not being able to stop is a symptom of food restriction and deprivation.

 

Mimi

 

 

Subject: Re: Some successes... and some challenges... To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 11:32 PM

 

If I'm learning about myself, I don't judge others. I do what is right for me. *I* wouldn't feed my kids a steady diet of junk, so why would I feed myself a steady diet of junk? If I can't stop eating what I believe is bad for me, it means I'm addicted to that food. That's what OA taught me. Food has power over me, and each one of us must approach our food addiction in a different way. For instance, some theories are that the alcoholic should keep a bottle in the house to prove that he can stay away from it. Others believe they should not have alcohol in the house. And yet others believe, as IE does, once the proper attitude is taken towards alcohol, a person can drink normally. Each one must think for himself. Alcohol is not bad in itself, but it's addictive for certain people. They KNOW it's not good for them (it can be GOOD for others, but not good for them, so they don't judge others who drink), but feel a strong strong urge to drink regardless

of the consequences.

[Guest guest]

Tai, Cheese pizza for breakfast.  When my youngest son was around 2 or 3 that is all he ever ate for breakfast.  Sandy

 

I do appreciate that many of the things that Tribole and Resch teach, the authors of Intuitive Eating, are in harmony with what I believe but it seems that I'm touching on a raw nerve with some. I'm reading it the 2nd time around, and it is eye-opening for me this time around, much more so than the first time I read it. I also checked out Gillian's website promoting her concept, books, seminars, etc. and found it interesting. I also noticed she talks of getting to your natural weight, speaks of weight gain and how a person can lose weight by eating the foods they love. I notice many have conflicting views concerning what the IE teachers promote. Generally speaking I like freedom of speech. If I am wrong, I am happy to be corrected. I will

mention that my feelings were hurt when I received so much flack about my stated desire to cut down on saturated fats (as recommended in the IE book and which I supported), so while I appreciate the background and concept of intuitive eating, I believe I am really out of my element here. No insult intended. I did have a slice of pizza with cheese for breakfast today (yum) and a sliced mango. I really do wish the best for everyone here. Tai

To: " IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >

Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 10:54 AMSubject: Re: Re: Some successes... and some challenges...

 

Are we allowed to mention OA or other types of mentalities? Can I quote from IE books and speak of what I have learned?

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 10:32 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Some successes... and some challenges...

 

Our list owner has requested that we not use the addiction analogy for the reasons that Mimi states below. the idea of being powerless over food can be triggering for some folks and is a topic better suited to OA or other groups.

best,

Abby

IE moderator hat on 

 

I don't think the food/alcohol analogy is a perfect one. Alcohol is something you can technically restrain yourself from for the rest of your life; food is not. Part of IE, for me, is that we are not powerless over food and that not being able to stop is a symptom of food restriction and deprivation.

 

Mimi

 

 

Subject: Re: Some successes... and some challenges... To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 11:32 PM

 

If I'm learning about myself, I don't judge others. I do what is right for me. *I* wouldn't feed my kids a steady diet of junk, so why would I feed myself a steady diet of junk? If I can't stop eating what I believe is bad for me, it means I'm addicted to that food. That's what OA taught me. Food has power over me, and each one of us must approach our food addiction in a different way. For instance, some theories are that the alcoholic should keep a bottle in the house to prove that he can stay away from it. Others believe they should not have alcohol in the house. And yet others believe, as IE does, once the proper attitude is taken towards alcohol, a person can drink normally. Each one must think for himself. Alcohol is not bad in itself, but it's addictive for certain people. They KNOW it's not good for them (it can be GOOD for others, but not good for them, so they don't judge others who drink), but feel a strong strong urge to drink regardless

of the consequences.