Re: I Am Not a Garbage Disposal!

[Guest guest]

.... Can't say it felt good, exactly... I

felt kind-of cheated.

Better that the restaurant cheated you, Jane, than that you cheated

yourself by having what you didn't want.

You did the right thing.

Paddy

[Guest guest]

Jane: Better in the waste than on the waist! And for now you learned a great lesson.  That's what IE is all about, a journey of learning opportunities. And yes it can leave one feeling guilty at first.  I know I grew up in the " clean your plate " era.  Sandy

 

Today in an attempt to reduce the stress in my life a bit, I drove to a town an hour away, through gorgeous scenery, to visit an acquaintance who recently moved to senior housing there. I took her to lunch at a place we'd both heard rave reviews about. I ordered a sandwich, thinking I would split it with my toddler, and then it turned out to have cheese melted all over it and she's lactose intolerant. So I had to order something else for her and was left with SO MUCH compared to what I've been eating. I ate a little of everything, but truthfully, nothing was that great. It wasn't bad... Anyway, I realized I wasn't truly hungry anymore and didn't think it would keep well, and besides, why take something home for later when I wasn't that thrilled with it the first go-round? I had a mild stress because of the high cost of lunch and " wasting " food, but let it go and left. I can't recall doing that at a restaurant before and I guess that's progress. Can't say it felt good, exactly... I felt kind-of cheated.

Jane

[Guest guest]

Jane: Better in the waste than on the waist! And for now you learned a great lesson.  That's what IE is all about, a journey of learning opportunities. And yes it can leave one feeling guilty at first.  I know I grew up in the " clean your plate " era.  Sandy

 

Today in an attempt to reduce the stress in my life a bit, I drove to a town an hour away, through gorgeous scenery, to visit an acquaintance who recently moved to senior housing there. I took her to lunch at a place we'd both heard rave reviews about. I ordered a sandwich, thinking I would split it with my toddler, and then it turned out to have cheese melted all over it and she's lactose intolerant. So I had to order something else for her and was left with SO MUCH compared to what I've been eating. I ate a little of everything, but truthfully, nothing was that great. It wasn't bad... Anyway, I realized I wasn't truly hungry anymore and didn't think it would keep well, and besides, why take something home for later when I wasn't that thrilled with it the first go-round? I had a mild stress because of the high cost of lunch and " wasting " food, but let it go and left. I can't recall doing that at a restaurant before and I guess that's progress. Can't say it felt good, exactly... I felt kind-of cheated.

Jane

[Guest guest]

Jane: Better in the waste than on the waist! And for now you learned a great lesson.  That's what IE is all about, a journey of learning opportunities. And yes it can leave one feeling guilty at first.  I know I grew up in the " clean your plate " era.  Sandy

 

Today in an attempt to reduce the stress in my life a bit, I drove to a town an hour away, through gorgeous scenery, to visit an acquaintance who recently moved to senior housing there. I took her to lunch at a place we'd both heard rave reviews about. I ordered a sandwich, thinking I would split it with my toddler, and then it turned out to have cheese melted all over it and she's lactose intolerant. So I had to order something else for her and was left with SO MUCH compared to what I've been eating. I ate a little of everything, but truthfully, nothing was that great. It wasn't bad... Anyway, I realized I wasn't truly hungry anymore and didn't think it would keep well, and besides, why take something home for later when I wasn't that thrilled with it the first go-round? I had a mild stress because of the high cost of lunch and " wasting " food, but let it go and left. I can't recall doing that at a restaurant before and I guess that's progress. Can't say it felt good, exactly... I felt kind-of cheated.

Jane

[Guest guest]

Jane, good going! You were able to stop. I am curious, though. How much food did you eat when you realized you were no longer hungry? I am having a real problem with that. I am revising my thoughts and feelings about certain kinds of foods, trying to move away from cheese because it is so high in cholesterol anyway, even though it is such a luxurious food for me to eat. The idea of something dripping with cheese is still very alluring, but I am working on getting off cheese. Do you notice how much food it takes to get you unhungry? (Anybody ...) TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 7:26 AMSubject: Re: I Am Not a Garbage Disposal!

Jane: Better in the waste than on the waist! And for now you learned a great lesson. That's what IE is all about, a journey of learning opportunities. And yes it can leave one feeling guilty at first. I know I grew up in the "clean your plate" era. Sandy

Today in an attempt to reduce the stress in my life a bit, I drove to a town an hour away, through gorgeous scenery, to visit an acquaintance who recently moved to senior housing there. I took her to lunch at a place we'd both heard rave reviews about. I ordered a sandwich, thinking I would split it with my toddler, and then it turned out to have cheese melted all over it and she's lactose intolerant. So I had to order something else for her and was left with SO MUCH compared to what I've been eating. I ate a little of everything, but truthfully, nothing was that great. It wasn't bad... Anyway, I realized I wasn't truly hungry anymore and didn't think it would keep well, and besides, why take something home for later when I wasn't that thrilled with it the first go-round? I had a mild stress because of the high cost of lunch and "wasting" food, but let it go and left. I can't recall doing that at a restaurant before and I guess that's

progress. Can't say it felt good, exactly... I felt kind-of cheated.

Jane

[Guest guest]

Jane, good going! You were able to stop. I am curious, though. How much food did you eat when you realized you were no longer hungry? I am having a real problem with that. I am revising my thoughts and feelings about certain kinds of foods, trying to move away from cheese because it is so high in cholesterol anyway, even though it is such a luxurious food for me to eat. The idea of something dripping with cheese is still very alluring, but I am working on getting off cheese. Do you notice how much food it takes to get you unhungry? (Anybody ...) TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 7:26 AMSubject: Re: I Am Not a Garbage Disposal!

Jane: Better in the waste than on the waist! And for now you learned a great lesson. That's what IE is all about, a journey of learning opportunities. And yes it can leave one feeling guilty at first. I know I grew up in the "clean your plate" era. Sandy

Today in an attempt to reduce the stress in my life a bit, I drove to a town an hour away, through gorgeous scenery, to visit an acquaintance who recently moved to senior housing there. I took her to lunch at a place we'd both heard rave reviews about. I ordered a sandwich, thinking I would split it with my toddler, and then it turned out to have cheese melted all over it and she's lactose intolerant. So I had to order something else for her and was left with SO MUCH compared to what I've been eating. I ate a little of everything, but truthfully, nothing was that great. It wasn't bad... Anyway, I realized I wasn't truly hungry anymore and didn't think it would keep well, and besides, why take something home for later when I wasn't that thrilled with it the first go-round? I had a mild stress because of the high cost of lunch and "wasting" food, but let it go and left. I can't recall doing that at a restaurant before and I guess that's

progress. Can't say it felt good, exactly... I felt kind-of cheated.

Jane

[Guest guest]

Sandy, how are you doing today? Glad to see your post. I have not yet quite begun my day -- waiting for the rumble <g>, sitting here with my cup of coffee. It is still pretty mild here (no high winds or rain yet), I'm waiting for the day to unfold. My problem is eating still when I'm not hungry enough to feel that rumble, although that's getting better as time progresses, but at night is the big one for me. The big test. I may go to library soon to take out the Intuitive Eating by Tribole, or else I'll just to have to buy it online. Boy, it's hard for me to stop eating at night, morning and lunch times are easier to stop. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 7:26 AMSubject: Re: I Am Not a Garbage Disposal!

Jane: Better in the waste than on the waist! And for now you learned a great lesson. That's what IE is all about, a journey of learning opportunities. And yes it can leave one feeling guilty at first. I know I grew up in the "clean your plate" era. Sandy

Today in an attempt to reduce the stress in my life a bit, I drove to a town an hour away, through gorgeous scenery, to visit an acquaintance who recently moved to senior housing there. I took her to lunch at a place we'd both heard rave reviews about. I ordered a sandwich, thinking I would split it with my toddler, and then it turned out to have cheese melted all over it and she's lactose intolerant. So I had to order something else for her and was left with SO MUCH compared to what I've been eating. I ate a little of everything, but truthfully, nothing was that great. It wasn't bad... Anyway, I realized I wasn't truly hungry anymore and didn't think it would keep well, and besides, why take something home for later when I wasn't that thrilled with it the first go-round? I had a mild stress because of the high cost of lunch and "wasting" food, but let it go and left. I can't recall doing that at a restaurant before and I guess that's

progress. Can't say it felt good, exactly... I felt kind-of cheated.

Jane

[Guest guest]

Comment: here's an old saying I just learned about --"Before you buy the item, you are the boss. After you buy it, they are the boss." :-) TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 1:47 AMSubject: Re: I Am Not a Garbage Disposal!

.... Can't say it felt good, exactly... I

felt kind-of cheated.

Better that the restaurant cheated you, Jane, than that you cheated

yourself by having what you didn't want.

You did the right thing.

Paddy

[Guest guest]

Comment: here's an old saying I just learned about --"Before you buy the item, you are the boss. After you buy it, they are the boss." :-) TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 1:47 AMSubject: Re: I Am Not a Garbage Disposal!

.... Can't say it felt good, exactly... I

felt kind-of cheated.

Better that the restaurant cheated you, Jane, than that you cheated

yourself by having what you didn't want.

You did the right thing.

Paddy

[Guest guest]

Comment: here's an old saying I just learned about --"Before you buy the item, you are the boss. After you buy it, they are the boss." :-) TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 1:47 AMSubject: Re: I Am Not a Garbage Disposal!

.... Can't say it felt good, exactly... I

felt kind-of cheated.

Better that the restaurant cheated you, Jane, than that you cheated

yourself by having what you didn't want.

You did the right thing.

Paddy

[Guest guest]

I love this post, Jane!

Thank you so much for sharing. It feels so NORMAL to leave food and not have it

be such a big deal. Normal eaters do not mourn over " un-tasty " food left in a

restaurant. I crave the PEACEFUL feeling I get when I am able to really be

present with my friends when dining out - or any other time, for that matter.

When I am not obsessing over the food, I am VERY aware that this is a new - and

wonderful - way of life for me. When I say obsessing, I mean in all ways - how

to eat more, how to eat less, how to " take it home " (and eat it the moment I'm

in the car), how to stop on the way home if the meal didn't numb me

sufficiently, how to determine what to wear because my clothes don't fit, etc.

It is ALL-consuming. I don't miss that when I have a successful IE experience.

Thanks again for posting.

Waiting for the rumble,

, IE since 7/2011

>

> Today in an attempt to reduce the stress in my life a bit, I drove to a town

an hour away, through gorgeous scenery, to visit an acquaintance who recently

moved to senior housing there. I took her to lunch at a place we'd both heard

rave reviews about. I ordered a sandwich, thinking I would split it with my

toddler, and then it turned out to have cheese melted all over it and she's

lactose intolerant. So I had to order something else for her and was left with

SO MUCH compared to what I've been eating. I ate a little of everything, but

truthfully, nothing was that great. It wasn't bad... Anyway, I realized I

wasn't truly hungry anymore and didn't think it would keep well, and besides,

why take something home for later when I wasn't that thrilled with it the first

go-round? I had a mild stress because of the high cost of lunch and " wasting "

food, but let it go and left. I can't recall doing that at a restaurant before

and I guess that's progress. Can't say it felt good, exactly... I felt kind-of

cheated.

>

> Jane

>

[Guest guest]

I love this post, Jane!

Thank you so much for sharing. It feels so NORMAL to leave food and not have it

be such a big deal. Normal eaters do not mourn over " un-tasty " food left in a

restaurant. I crave the PEACEFUL feeling I get when I am able to really be

present with my friends when dining out - or any other time, for that matter.

When I am not obsessing over the food, I am VERY aware that this is a new - and

wonderful - way of life for me. When I say obsessing, I mean in all ways - how

to eat more, how to eat less, how to " take it home " (and eat it the moment I'm

in the car), how to stop on the way home if the meal didn't numb me

sufficiently, how to determine what to wear because my clothes don't fit, etc.

It is ALL-consuming. I don't miss that when I have a successful IE experience.

Thanks again for posting.

Waiting for the rumble,

, IE since 7/2011

>

> Today in an attempt to reduce the stress in my life a bit, I drove to a town

an hour away, through gorgeous scenery, to visit an acquaintance who recently

moved to senior housing there. I took her to lunch at a place we'd both heard

rave reviews about. I ordered a sandwich, thinking I would split it with my

toddler, and then it turned out to have cheese melted all over it and she's

lactose intolerant. So I had to order something else for her and was left with

SO MUCH compared to what I've been eating. I ate a little of everything, but

truthfully, nothing was that great. It wasn't bad... Anyway, I realized I

wasn't truly hungry anymore and didn't think it would keep well, and besides,

why take something home for later when I wasn't that thrilled with it the first

go-round? I had a mild stress because of the high cost of lunch and " wasting "

food, but let it go and left. I can't recall doing that at a restaurant before

and I guess that's progress. Can't say it felt good, exactly... I felt kind-of

cheated.

>

> Jane

>

[Guest guest]

I love this post, Jane!

Thank you so much for sharing. It feels so NORMAL to leave food and not have it

be such a big deal. Normal eaters do not mourn over " un-tasty " food left in a

restaurant. I crave the PEACEFUL feeling I get when I am able to really be

present with my friends when dining out - or any other time, for that matter.

When I am not obsessing over the food, I am VERY aware that this is a new - and

wonderful - way of life for me. When I say obsessing, I mean in all ways - how

to eat more, how to eat less, how to " take it home " (and eat it the moment I'm

in the car), how to stop on the way home if the meal didn't numb me

sufficiently, how to determine what to wear because my clothes don't fit, etc.

It is ALL-consuming. I don't miss that when I have a successful IE experience.

Thanks again for posting.

Waiting for the rumble,

, IE since 7/2011

>

> Today in an attempt to reduce the stress in my life a bit, I drove to a town

an hour away, through gorgeous scenery, to visit an acquaintance who recently

moved to senior housing there. I took her to lunch at a place we'd both heard

rave reviews about. I ordered a sandwich, thinking I would split it with my

toddler, and then it turned out to have cheese melted all over it and she's

lactose intolerant. So I had to order something else for her and was left with

SO MUCH compared to what I've been eating. I ate a little of everything, but

truthfully, nothing was that great. It wasn't bad... Anyway, I realized I

wasn't truly hungry anymore and didn't think it would keep well, and besides,

why take something home for later when I wasn't that thrilled with it the first

go-round? I had a mild stress because of the high cost of lunch and " wasting "

food, but let it go and left. I can't recall doing that at a restaurant before

and I guess that's progress. Can't say it felt good, exactly... I felt kind-of

cheated.

>

> Jane

>

[Guest guest]

Jane that is a great step! Not only were you able to only eat what you were

comfortable with, but you also didn't 'stuff' down something that you realized

you didn't like either.

I really hear you regarding restaurants that don't serve tasty food. It seems to

me ( & hubby too) that on a whole 'taste' has slid down several notches to where

what I would consider 'Denny's' type food has become the standard and Denny's

has dropped to just above fast food level. Of course it doesn't help that I do

cook and bake for us using fresh ingredients and no packaged type foods. I also

object to paying several times the cost for a sandwich or 'home cooking' meals

that I make at home BETTER and cheaper too. Needless to say, we find dang few

restaurants that offer us tasty foods that I won't bother with at home

(hamburgers & steaks included).

Bet you satisfied your hunger when you went home - good for you.

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> Today in an attempt to reduce the stress in my life a bit, I drove to a town

an hour away, through gorgeous scenery, to visit an acquaintance who recently

moved to senior housing there. I took her to lunch at a place we'd both heard

rave reviews about. I ordered a sandwich, thinking I would split it with my

toddler, and then it turned out to have cheese melted all over it and she's

lactose intolerant. So I had to order something else for her and was left with

SO MUCH compared to what I've been eating. I ate a little of everything, but

truthfully, nothing was that great. It wasn't bad... Anyway, I realized I

wasn't truly hungry anymore and didn't think it would keep well, and besides,

why take something home for later when I wasn't that thrilled with it the first

go-round? I had a mild stress because of the high cost of lunch and " wasting "

food, but let it go and left. I can't recall doing that at a restaurant before

and I guess that's progress. Can't say it felt good, exactly... I felt kind-of

cheated.

>

> Jane

>

[Guest guest]

Very good self care; always disappointing to me to be in the midst of a special

day and get something in a restaurant that doesn't appeal. Taking it home is

crazy, but I've done it in the past. But no more. Self care is more important.

>

> Today in an attempt to reduce the stress in my life a bit, I drove to a town

an hour away, through gorgeous scenery, to visit an acquaintance who recently

moved to senior housing there. I took her to lunch at a place we'd both heard

rave reviews about. I ordered a sandwich, thinking I would split it with my

toddler, and then it turned out to have cheese melted all over it and she's

lactose intolerant. So I had to order something else for her and was left with

SO MUCH compared to what I've been eating. I ate a little of everything, but

truthfully, nothing was that great. It wasn't bad... Anyway, I realized I

wasn't truly hungry anymore and didn't think it would keep well, and besides,

why take something home for later when I wasn't that thrilled with it the first

go-round? I had a mild stress because of the high cost of lunch and " wasting "

food, but let it go and left. I can't recall doing that at a restaurant before

and I guess that's progress. Can't say it felt good, exactly... I felt kind-of

cheated.

>

> Jane

>

[Guest guest]

Very good self care; always disappointing to me to be in the midst of a special

day and get something in a restaurant that doesn't appeal. Taking it home is

crazy, but I've done it in the past. But no more. Self care is more important.

>

> Today in an attempt to reduce the stress in my life a bit, I drove to a town

an hour away, through gorgeous scenery, to visit an acquaintance who recently

moved to senior housing there. I took her to lunch at a place we'd both heard

rave reviews about. I ordered a sandwich, thinking I would split it with my

toddler, and then it turned out to have cheese melted all over it and she's

lactose intolerant. So I had to order something else for her and was left with

SO MUCH compared to what I've been eating. I ate a little of everything, but

truthfully, nothing was that great. It wasn't bad... Anyway, I realized I

wasn't truly hungry anymore and didn't think it would keep well, and besides,

why take something home for later when I wasn't that thrilled with it the first

go-round? I had a mild stress because of the high cost of lunch and " wasting "

food, but let it go and left. I can't recall doing that at a restaurant before

and I guess that's progress. Can't say it felt good, exactly... I felt kind-of

cheated.

>

> Jane

>

[Guest guest]

Tai, I don't think knowing how much others eat before they are satisfied would do you much good. The whole beauty of IE is that we get to heed our own hunger and satiety signals. We don't have to eat X amount just because some diet or expert or food plan says that's the appropriate amount to eat. So, for instance, if Jane needs to eat a cup of salad and a 4 oz. steak to become full, but I need a 5oz. steak and 2 cups of salad, that is neither here nor there for YOU. You may need a completely different amount, type of food, combination of food, etc. And that's OK. We get to be free of external advice about what is the" right" amount to eat. For me, that's what's so great about it. I don't have to feel guilty that my friend is satisfied with only a small salad for lunch, but I need a whole hamburger and vegetables. In fact, I can CELEBRATE that because I am

honoring my body and my needs. I am doing what's right for me without all that cultural/social noise in my ear.

As for cheese, IMO you don't need to banish it. It's not "bad." If you are having trouble with eating past satisfaction with it,you can deal with that, but banishing it might backfire in the long run. I would work on eating it mindfully, savoring every bite, waiting for hunger, and listening really closely to your satiety signal. It's all we can do, really.

Mimi

Subject: Re: I Am Not a Garbage Disposal!To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Date: Thursday, August 25, 2011, 8:31 AM

Jane, good going! You were able to stop. I am curious, though. How much food did you eat when you realized you were no longer hungry? I am having a real problem with that. I am revising my thoughts and feelings about certain kinds of foods, trying to move away from cheese because it is so high in cholesterol anyway, even though it is such a luxurious food for me to eat. The idea of something dripping with cheese is still very alluring, but I am working on getting off cheese. Do you notice how much food it takes to get you unhungry? (Anybody ...) Tai

[Guest guest]

Tai, I don't think knowing how much others eat before they are satisfied would do you much good. The whole beauty of IE is that we get to heed our own hunger and satiety signals. We don't have to eat X amount just because some diet or expert or food plan says that's the appropriate amount to eat. So, for instance, if Jane needs to eat a cup of salad and a 4 oz. steak to become full, but I need a 5oz. steak and 2 cups of salad, that is neither here nor there for YOU. You may need a completely different amount, type of food, combination of food, etc. And that's OK. We get to be free of external advice about what is the" right" amount to eat. For me, that's what's so great about it. I don't have to feel guilty that my friend is satisfied with only a small salad for lunch, but I need a whole hamburger and vegetables. In fact, I can CELEBRATE that because I am

honoring my body and my needs. I am doing what's right for me without all that cultural/social noise in my ear.

As for cheese, IMO you don't need to banish it. It's not "bad." If you are having trouble with eating past satisfaction with it,you can deal with that, but banishing it might backfire in the long run. I would work on eating it mindfully, savoring every bite, waiting for hunger, and listening really closely to your satiety signal. It's all we can do, really.

Mimi

Subject: Re: I Am Not a Garbage Disposal!To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Date: Thursday, August 25, 2011, 8:31 AM

Jane, good going! You were able to stop. I am curious, though. How much food did you eat when you realized you were no longer hungry? I am having a real problem with that. I am revising my thoughts and feelings about certain kinds of foods, trying to move away from cheese because it is so high in cholesterol anyway, even though it is such a luxurious food for me to eat. The idea of something dripping with cheese is still very alluring, but I am working on getting off cheese. Do you notice how much food it takes to get you unhungry? (Anybody ...) Tai

[Guest guest]

Tai, I don't think knowing how much others eat before they are satisfied would do you much good. The whole beauty of IE is that we get to heed our own hunger and satiety signals. We don't have to eat X amount just because some diet or expert or food plan says that's the appropriate amount to eat. So, for instance, if Jane needs to eat a cup of salad and a 4 oz. steak to become full, but I need a 5oz. steak and 2 cups of salad, that is neither here nor there for YOU. You may need a completely different amount, type of food, combination of food, etc. And that's OK. We get to be free of external advice about what is the" right" amount to eat. For me, that's what's so great about it. I don't have to feel guilty that my friend is satisfied with only a small salad for lunch, but I need a whole hamburger and vegetables. In fact, I can CELEBRATE that because I am

honoring my body and my needs. I am doing what's right for me without all that cultural/social noise in my ear.

As for cheese, IMO you don't need to banish it. It's not "bad." If you are having trouble with eating past satisfaction with it,you can deal with that, but banishing it might backfire in the long run. I would work on eating it mindfully, savoring every bite, waiting for hunger, and listening really closely to your satiety signal. It's all we can do, really.

Mimi

Subject: Re: I Am Not a Garbage Disposal!To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Date: Thursday, August 25, 2011, 8:31 AM

Jane, good going! You were able to stop. I am curious, though. How much food did you eat when you realized you were no longer hungry? I am having a real problem with that. I am revising my thoughts and feelings about certain kinds of foods, trying to move away from cheese because it is so high in cholesterol anyway, even though it is such a luxurious food for me to eat. The idea of something dripping with cheese is still very alluring, but I am working on getting off cheese. Do you notice how much food it takes to get you unhungry? (Anybody ...) Tai

[Guest guest]

You did EXACTLY the right thing! And I'd have felt cheated too. But what a

victory to be able to recognize that it wasn't what you wanted to eat, and then

to NOT EAT IT. Someday your toddler will be a teenager, and if she were a boy,

you could have taken it home for her to eat. My boys (now at 18 and 20) ARE

garbage disposals, and are thrilled for leftovers from restaurants.

Tilley

>

> Today in an attempt to reduce the stress in my life a bit, I drove to a town

an hour away, through gorgeous scenery, to visit an acquaintance who recently

moved to senior housing there. I took her to lunch at a place we'd both heard

rave reviews about. I ordered a sandwich, thinking I would split it with my

toddler, and then it turned out to have cheese melted all over it and she's

lactose intolerant. So I had to order something else for her and was left with

SO MUCH compared to what I've been eating. I ate a little of everything, but

truthfully, nothing was that great. It wasn't bad... Anyway, I realized I

wasn't truly hungry anymore and didn't think it would keep well, and besides,

why take something home for later when I wasn't that thrilled with it the first

go-round? I had a mild stress because of the high cost of lunch and " wasting "

food, but let it go and left. I can't recall doing that at a restaurant before

and I guess that's progress. Can't say it felt good, exactly... I felt kind-of

cheated.

>

> Jane

>

[Guest guest]

Well, Mimi, I'm not banishing cheese, but when I looked at food charts (nothing to do with "dieting," just checking cholesterol levels of meats vs. cheese), I found that cheese has a very large amount of saturated fat. So I'm trying to cut down on my cheese consumption. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:38 AMSubject: Re: I Am Not a Garbage Disposal!

Tai, I don't think knowing how much others eat before they are satisfied would do you much good. The whole beauty of IE is that we get to heed our own hunger and satiety signals. We don't have to eat X amount just because some diet or expert or food plan says that's the appropriate amount to eat. So, for instance, if Jane needs to eat a cup of salad and a 4 oz. steak to become full, but I need a 5oz. steak and 2 cups of salad, that is neither here nor there for YOU. You may need a completely different amount, type of food, combination of food, etc. And that's OK. We get to be free of external advice about what is the" right" amount to eat. For me, that's what's so great about it. I don't have to feel guilty that my friend is satisfied with only a small salad for lunch, but I need a whole hamburger and vegetables. In fact, I can CELEBRATE that

because I am

honoring my body and my needs. I am doing what's right for me without all that cultural/social noise in my ear.

As for cheese, IMO you don't need to banish it. It's not "bad." If you are having trouble with eating past satisfaction with it,you can deal with that, but banishing it might backfire in the long run. I would work on eating it mindfully, savoring every bite, waiting for hunger, and listening really closely to your satiety signal. It's all we can do, really.

Mimi

Subject: Re: I Am Not a Garbage Disposal!To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Date: Thursday, August 25, 2011, 8:31 AM

Jane, good going! You were able to stop. I am curious, though. How much food did you eat when you realized you were no longer hungry? I am having a real problem with that. I am revising my thoughts and feelings about certain kinds of foods, trying to move away from cheese because it is so high in cholesterol anyway, even though it is such a luxurious food for me to eat. The idea of something dripping with cheese is still very alluring, but I am working on getting off cheese. Do you notice how much food it takes to get you unhungry? (Anybody ...) Tai

[Guest guest]

Tai, I have been thinking that I may really have to watch my cholesterol intake too, although I have heard at times that dietary cholesterol doesn't have much to do with arteries.  I keep hearing conflicting stories.  I still haven't seen the specialist who ordered the liver biopsy, so I don't know what he will say about diet. Been quite sick with digestive system, no food or water for day and a half.  I went to Urgent Care today and I have lost weight, but it " will find me again " once I start drinking and eating. The hurricane missed us except for a little wind and rain.  The Northeast won't be so lucky I guess.  Sandy

 

Well, Mimi, I'm not banishing cheese, but when I looked at food charts (nothing to do with " dieting, " just checking cholesterol levels of meats vs. cheese), I found that cheese has a very large amount of saturated fat. So I'm trying to cut down on my cheese consumption. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:38 AMSubject: Re: I Am Not a Garbage Disposal!

 

Tai, I don't think knowing how much others eat before they are satisfied would do you much good. The whole beauty of IE is that we get to heed our own hunger and satiety signals. We don't have to eat X amount just because some diet or expert or food plan says that's the appropriate amount to eat. So, for instance, if Jane needs to eat a cup of salad and a 4 oz. steak to become full, but I need a 5oz. steak and 2 cups of salad, that is neither here nor there for YOU. You may need a completely different amount, type of food, combination of food, etc. And that's OK. We get to be free of external advice about what is the " right " amount to eat. For me, that's what's so great about it. I don't have to feel guilty that my friend is satisfied with only a small salad for lunch, but I need a whole hamburger and vegetables. In fact, I can CELEBRATE that

because I am

honoring my body and my needs. I am doing what's right for me without all that cultural/social noise in my ear.

 

As for cheese, IMO you don't need to banish it. It's not " bad. " If you are having trouble with eating past satisfaction with it,you can deal with that, but banishing it might backfire in the long run. I would work on eating it mindfully, savoring every bite, waiting for hunger, and listening really closely to your satiety signal. It's all we can do, really.

 

Mimi

 

Subject: Re: I Am Not a Garbage Disposal!

To: " IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >

Date: Thursday, August 25, 2011, 8:31 AM

 

Jane, good going! You were able to stop. I am curious, though. How much food did you eat when you realized you were no longer hungry? I am having a real problem with that. I am revising my thoughts and feelings about certain kinds of foods, trying to move away from cheese because it is so high in cholesterol anyway, even though it is such a luxurious food for me to eat. The idea of something dripping with cheese is still very alluring, but I am working on getting off cheese. Do you notice how much food it takes to get you unhungry? (Anybody ...) Tai

[Guest guest]

Tai, I have been thinking that I may really have to watch my cholesterol intake too, although I have heard at times that dietary cholesterol doesn't have much to do with arteries.  I keep hearing conflicting stories.  I still haven't seen the specialist who ordered the liver biopsy, so I don't know what he will say about diet. Been quite sick with digestive system, no food or water for day and a half.  I went to Urgent Care today and I have lost weight, but it " will find me again " once I start drinking and eating. The hurricane missed us except for a little wind and rain.  The Northeast won't be so lucky I guess.  Sandy

 

Well, Mimi, I'm not banishing cheese, but when I looked at food charts (nothing to do with " dieting, " just checking cholesterol levels of meats vs. cheese), I found that cheese has a very large amount of saturated fat. So I'm trying to cut down on my cheese consumption. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:38 AMSubject: Re: I Am Not a Garbage Disposal!

 

Tai, I don't think knowing how much others eat before they are satisfied would do you much good. The whole beauty of IE is that we get to heed our own hunger and satiety signals. We don't have to eat X amount just because some diet or expert or food plan says that's the appropriate amount to eat. So, for instance, if Jane needs to eat a cup of salad and a 4 oz. steak to become full, but I need a 5oz. steak and 2 cups of salad, that is neither here nor there for YOU. You may need a completely different amount, type of food, combination of food, etc. And that's OK. We get to be free of external advice about what is the " right " amount to eat. For me, that's what's so great about it. I don't have to feel guilty that my friend is satisfied with only a small salad for lunch, but I need a whole hamburger and vegetables. In fact, I can CELEBRATE that

because I am

honoring my body and my needs. I am doing what's right for me without all that cultural/social noise in my ear.

 

As for cheese, IMO you don't need to banish it. It's not " bad. " If you are having trouble with eating past satisfaction with it,you can deal with that, but banishing it might backfire in the long run. I would work on eating it mindfully, savoring every bite, waiting for hunger, and listening really closely to your satiety signal. It's all we can do, really.

 

Mimi

 

Subject: Re: I Am Not a Garbage Disposal!

To: " IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >

Date: Thursday, August 25, 2011, 8:31 AM

 

Jane, good going! You were able to stop. I am curious, though. How much food did you eat when you realized you were no longer hungry? I am having a real problem with that. I am revising my thoughts and feelings about certain kinds of foods, trying to move away from cheese because it is so high in cholesterol anyway, even though it is such a luxurious food for me to eat. The idea of something dripping with cheese is still very alluring, but I am working on getting off cheese. Do you notice how much food it takes to get you unhungry? (Anybody ...) Tai

[Guest guest]

Tai, I have been thinking that I may really have to watch my cholesterol intake too, although I have heard at times that dietary cholesterol doesn't have much to do with arteries.  I keep hearing conflicting stories.  I still haven't seen the specialist who ordered the liver biopsy, so I don't know what he will say about diet. Been quite sick with digestive system, no food or water for day and a half.  I went to Urgent Care today and I have lost weight, but it " will find me again " once I start drinking and eating. The hurricane missed us except for a little wind and rain.  The Northeast won't be so lucky I guess.  Sandy

 

Well, Mimi, I'm not banishing cheese, but when I looked at food charts (nothing to do with " dieting, " just checking cholesterol levels of meats vs. cheese), I found that cheese has a very large amount of saturated fat. So I'm trying to cut down on my cheese consumption. Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:38 AMSubject: Re: I Am Not a Garbage Disposal!

 

Tai, I don't think knowing how much others eat before they are satisfied would do you much good. The whole beauty of IE is that we get to heed our own hunger and satiety signals. We don't have to eat X amount just because some diet or expert or food plan says that's the appropriate amount to eat. So, for instance, if Jane needs to eat a cup of salad and a 4 oz. steak to become full, but I need a 5oz. steak and 2 cups of salad, that is neither here nor there for YOU. You may need a completely different amount, type of food, combination of food, etc. And that's OK. We get to be free of external advice about what is the " right " amount to eat. For me, that's what's so great about it. I don't have to feel guilty that my friend is satisfied with only a small salad for lunch, but I need a whole hamburger and vegetables. In fact, I can CELEBRATE that

because I am

honoring my body and my needs. I am doing what's right for me without all that cultural/social noise in my ear.

 

As for cheese, IMO you don't need to banish it. It's not " bad. " If you are having trouble with eating past satisfaction with it,you can deal with that, but banishing it might backfire in the long run. I would work on eating it mindfully, savoring every bite, waiting for hunger, and listening really closely to your satiety signal. It's all we can do, really.

 

Mimi

 

Subject: Re: I Am Not a Garbage Disposal!

To: " IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >

Date: Thursday, August 25, 2011, 8:31 AM

 

Jane, good going! You were able to stop. I am curious, though. How much food did you eat when you realized you were no longer hungry? I am having a real problem with that. I am revising my thoughts and feelings about certain kinds of foods, trying to move away from cheese because it is so high in cholesterol anyway, even though it is such a luxurious food for me to eat. The idea of something dripping with cheese is still very alluring, but I am working on getting off cheese. Do you notice how much food it takes to get you unhungry? (Anybody ...) Tai

[Guest guest]

I agree completely; this is all Big Pharma making billions more dollars a year

selling statins. Same with lowering the #'s for blood pressure a few years

back; made them even more billions and the pharmaceutical companies are on the

boards that set the standards of care in medicine. Nasty.

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> > >> From: Tailyn Grey <tailyngrey@>

> > >> Subject: Re: I Am Not a Garbage Disposal!

> > >> To: " IntuitiveEating_Support " <

> > >> IntuitiveEating_Support >

> > >> Date: Thursday, August 25, 2011, 8:31 AM

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> > >> Jane, good going! You were able to stop. I am curious, though. How much

> > >> food did you eat when you realized you were no longer hungry? I am having

> > a

> > >> real problem with that. I am revising my thoughts and feelings about

> > >> certain kinds of foods, trying to move away from cheese because it is so

> > >> high in cholesterol anyway, even though it is such a luxurious food for

> > me

> > >> to eat. The idea of something dripping with cheese is still very

> > alluring,

> > >> but I am working on getting off cheese. Do you notice how much food it

> > takes

> > >> to get you unhungry? (Anybody ...) Tai

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