Re: Question about timing...bedtime snacks

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I was reflecting just the other day that around 9:00 every night while growing

up we had " tea time " . We had tea and sometimes cheese and crackers (small

amounts) or a cookie or two... The tea always had cream and sugar in it. None

of us were fat back then. Mom's family had done that forever too and none of

them were ever fat either. Strange...

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> > > How do mothers and others handle being with those, including their

children, who may not be hungry when mom is hungry? Do you prepare food later

for the child? What if you're a working mom and come home tired, make something

for yourself and the family, don't want to force your child to eat, but also

don't have the strength to prepare food later on? How do you handle this? Cindi

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[Guest guest]

I was reflecting just the other day that around 9:00 every night while growing

up we had " tea time " . We had tea and sometimes cheese and crackers (small

amounts) or a cookie or two... The tea always had cream and sugar in it. None

of us were fat back then. Mom's family had done that forever too and none of

them were ever fat either. Strange...

> > >

> > > How do mothers and others handle being with those, including their

children, who may not be hungry when mom is hungry? Do you prepare food later

for the child? What if you're a working mom and come home tired, make something

for yourself and the family, don't want to force your child to eat, but also

don't have the strength to prepare food later on? How do you handle this? Cindi

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[Guest guest]

I was reflecting just the other day that around 9:00 every night while growing

up we had " tea time " . We had tea and sometimes cheese and crackers (small

amounts) or a cookie or two... The tea always had cream and sugar in it. None

of us were fat back then. Mom's family had done that forever too and none of

them were ever fat either. Strange...

> > >

> > > How do mothers and others handle being with those, including their

children, who may not be hungry when mom is hungry? Do you prepare food later

for the child? What if you're a working mom and come home tired, make something

for yourself and the family, don't want to force your child to eat, but also

don't have the strength to prepare food later on? How do you handle this? Cindi

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[Guest guest]

Yeah, well right now I've eaten a whole load of pistachios and am not in the physical mood to eat anything else. I think I'm going to get rid of the bag of pistachios (even though it was quite expensive) and see where that leads. In the meantime, I'm afraid I'll get hungry (?, if that's possible) later on and those cookies hanging in my refrigerator are sounding pretty good to me. Maybe they're the next to go, I'll let you know. :-) TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 2:31 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question about timing...bedtime snacks

Jane funny you should mention that last night I was satisfied and didn't feel the need to have dinner but around 9 Oclock at night I felt hungry but didn't want a full meal so when i feel like that I often have cheese and crackers or some popcorn or cookies and milk. Eva

I was reflecting just the other day that around 9:00 every night while growing up we had "tea time". We had tea and sometimes cheese and crackers (small amounts) or a cookie or two... The tea always had cream and sugar in it. None of us were fat back then. Mom's family had done that forever too and none of them were ever fat either. Strange...> > >> > > How do mothers and others handle being with those, including their children, who may not be hungry when mom is hungry? Do you prepare food later for the child? What if you're a working mom and come home tired, make something for yourself and the family, don't want to force your child to eat, but also don't have the strength to prepare food later on? How do you handle this? Cindi> > >> >>------------------------------------

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Yeah ... I know some people that were never fat, not for a day. They ate. They weren't on starvation diets. I don't know how they did it. That's why I'm me and they're them, I suppose. Or why I'm not them. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 2:02 PMSubject: Re: Question about

timing...bedtime snacks

I was reflecting just the other day that around 9:00 every night while growing up we had "tea time". We had tea and sometimes cheese and crackers (small amounts) or a cookie or two... The tea always had cream and sugar in it. None of us were fat back then. Mom's family had done that forever too and none of them were ever fat either. Strange...

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> > > How do mothers and others handle being with those, including their children, who may not be hungry when mom is hungry? Do you prepare food later for the child? What if you're a working mom and come home tired, make something for yourself and the family, don't want to force your child to eat, but also don't have the strength to prepare food later on? How do you handle this? Cindi

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[Guest guest]

Tai, I just threw out 2 pints of Ben and Jerry's.  I was disappointed in them anyway and didn't think it was worth the splurge. Sandy

 

Yeah, well right now I've eaten a whole load of pistachios and am not in the physical mood to eat anything else. I think I'm going to get rid of the bag of pistachios (even though it was quite expensive) and see where that leads. In the meantime, I'm afraid I'll get hungry (?, if that's possible) later on and those cookies hanging in my refrigerator are sounding pretty good to me. Maybe they're the next to go, I'll let you know. :-) Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 2:31 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question about timing...bedtime snacks

 

Jane funny you should mention that last night I was satisfied and didn't feel the need to have dinner but around 9 Oclock at night I felt hungry but didn't want a full meal so when i feel like that I often have cheese and crackers or some popcorn or cookies and milk.  Eva

 

I was reflecting just the other day that around 9:00 every night while growing up we had " tea time " .  We had tea and sometimes cheese and crackers (small amounts) or a cookie or two...  The tea always had cream and sugar in it.  None of us were fat back then.  Mom's family had done that forever too and none of them were ever fat either.  Strange...> > >> > > How do mothers and others handle being with those, including their children, who may not be hungry when mom is hungry? Do you prepare food later for the child? What if you're a working mom and come home tired, make something for yourself and the family, don't want to force your child to eat, but also don't have the strength to prepare food later on? How do you handle this? Cindi> > >> >>------------------------------------

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Yeah, the problem is I like the pistachios, but I thought, what would I do without them? Obviously not eat them! Congratulations that you realize you didn't like the flavor of the ice cream that much, that always helps me to stop eating something. It's a wonderful revelation, isn't it? TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 9:29 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question about timing...bedtime snacks

Tai, I just threw out 2 pints of Ben and Jerry's. I was disappointed in them anyway and didn't think it was worth the splurge. Sandy

Yeah, well right now I've eaten a whole load of pistachios and am not in the physical mood to eat anything else. I think I'm going to get rid of the bag of pistachios (even though it was quite expensive) and see where that leads. In the meantime, I'm afraid I'll get hungry (?, if that's possible) later on and those cookies hanging in my refrigerator are sounding pretty good to me. Maybe they're the next to go, I'll let you know. :-) Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 2:31 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question about timing...bedtime snacks

Jane funny you should mention that last night I was satisfied and didn't feel the need to have dinner but around 9 Oclock at night I felt hungry but didn't want a full meal so when i feel like that I often have cheese and crackers or some popcorn or cookies and milk. Eva

I was reflecting just the other day that around 9:00 every night while growing up we had "tea time". We had tea and sometimes cheese and crackers (small amounts) or a cookie or two... The tea always had cream and sugar in it. None of us were fat back then. Mom's family had done that forever too and none of them were ever fat either. Strange...> > >> > > How do mothers and others handle being with those, including their children, who may not be hungry when mom is hungry? Do you prepare food later for the child? What if you're a working mom and come home tired, make something for yourself and the family, don't want to force your child to eat, but also don't have the strength to prepare food later on? How do you handle this? Cindi> > >> >>------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Yeah, the problem is I like the pistachios, but I thought, what would I do without them? Obviously not eat them! Congratulations that you realize you didn't like the flavor of the ice cream that much, that always helps me to stop eating something. It's a wonderful revelation, isn't it? TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 9:29 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question about timing...bedtime snacks

Tai, I just threw out 2 pints of Ben and Jerry's. I was disappointed in them anyway and didn't think it was worth the splurge. Sandy

Yeah, well right now I've eaten a whole load of pistachios and am not in the physical mood to eat anything else. I think I'm going to get rid of the bag of pistachios (even though it was quite expensive) and see where that leads. In the meantime, I'm afraid I'll get hungry (?, if that's possible) later on and those cookies hanging in my refrigerator are sounding pretty good to me. Maybe they're the next to go, I'll let you know. :-) Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 2:31 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question about timing...bedtime snacks

Jane funny you should mention that last night I was satisfied and didn't feel the need to have dinner but around 9 Oclock at night I felt hungry but didn't want a full meal so when i feel like that I often have cheese and crackers or some popcorn or cookies and milk. Eva

I was reflecting just the other day that around 9:00 every night while growing up we had "tea time". We had tea and sometimes cheese and crackers (small amounts) or a cookie or two... The tea always had cream and sugar in it. None of us were fat back then. Mom's family had done that forever too and none of them were ever fat either. Strange...> > >> > > How do mothers and others handle being with those, including their children, who may not be hungry when mom is hungry? Do you prepare food later for the child? What if you're a working mom and come home tired, make something for yourself and the family, don't want to force your child to eat, but also don't have the strength to prepare food later on? How do you handle this? Cindi> > >> >>------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Tai,What would happen if you kept those pistachios... or even... bought five more bags of them?maybe you could buy so many that they would cease to have so much specialness? and you would only eat them when you really wanted them?

do you feel like you are thinking about throwing them away because you don't trust yourself with them? just some " food for thought, " best,

abby

 

Yeah, the problem is I like the pistachios, but I thought, what would I do without them? Obviously not eat them! Congratulations that you realize you didn't like the flavor of the ice cream that much, that always helps me to stop eating something. It's a wonderful revelation, isn't it? Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 9:29 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question about timing...bedtime snacks

 

Tai, I just threw out 2 pints of Ben and Jerry's.  I was disappointed in them anyway and didn't think it was worth the splurge. Sandy

 

Yeah, well right now I've eaten a whole load of pistachios and am not in the physical mood to eat anything else. I think I'm going to get rid of the bag of pistachios (even though it was quite expensive) and see where that leads. In the meantime, I'm afraid I'll get hungry (?, if that's possible) later on and those cookies hanging in my refrigerator are sounding pretty good to me. Maybe they're the next to go, I'll let you know. :-) Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 2:31 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question about timing...bedtime snacks

 

Jane funny you should mention that last night I was satisfied and didn't feel the need to have dinner but around 9 Oclock at night I felt hungry but didn't want a full meal so when i feel like that I often have cheese and crackers or some popcorn or cookies and milk.  Eva

 

I was reflecting just the other day that around 9:00 every night while growing up we had " tea time " .  We had tea and sometimes cheese and crackers (small amounts) or a cookie or two...  The tea always had cream and sugar in it.  None of us were fat back then.  Mom's family had done that forever too and none of them were ever fat either.  Strange...> > >> > > How do mothers and others handle being with those, including their children, who may not be hungry when mom is hungry? Do you prepare food later for the child? What if you're a working mom and come home tired, make something for yourself and the family, don't want to force your child to eat, but also don't have the strength to prepare food later on? How do you handle this? Cindi> > >> >>------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Tai,What would happen if you kept those pistachios... or even... bought five more bags of them?maybe you could buy so many that they would cease to have so much specialness? and you would only eat them when you really wanted them?

do you feel like you are thinking about throwing them away because you don't trust yourself with them? just some " food for thought, " best,

abby

 

Yeah, the problem is I like the pistachios, but I thought, what would I do without them? Obviously not eat them! Congratulations that you realize you didn't like the flavor of the ice cream that much, that always helps me to stop eating something. It's a wonderful revelation, isn't it? Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 9:29 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question about timing...bedtime snacks

 

Tai, I just threw out 2 pints of Ben and Jerry's.  I was disappointed in them anyway and didn't think it was worth the splurge. Sandy

 

Yeah, well right now I've eaten a whole load of pistachios and am not in the physical mood to eat anything else. I think I'm going to get rid of the bag of pistachios (even though it was quite expensive) and see where that leads. In the meantime, I'm afraid I'll get hungry (?, if that's possible) later on and those cookies hanging in my refrigerator are sounding pretty good to me. Maybe they're the next to go, I'll let you know. :-) Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 2:31 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question about timing...bedtime snacks

 

Jane funny you should mention that last night I was satisfied and didn't feel the need to have dinner but around 9 Oclock at night I felt hungry but didn't want a full meal so when i feel like that I often have cheese and crackers or some popcorn or cookies and milk.  Eva

 

I was reflecting just the other day that around 9:00 every night while growing up we had " tea time " .  We had tea and sometimes cheese and crackers (small amounts) or a cookie or two...  The tea always had cream and sugar in it.  None of us were fat back then.  Mom's family had done that forever too and none of them were ever fat either.  Strange...> > >> > > How do mothers and others handle being with those, including their children, who may not be hungry when mom is hungry? Do you prepare food later for the child? What if you're a working mom and come home tired, make something for yourself and the family, don't want to force your child to eat, but also don't have the strength to prepare food later on? How do you handle this? Cindi> > >> >>------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Tai,What would happen if you kept those pistachios... or even... bought five more bags of them?maybe you could buy so many that they would cease to have so much specialness? and you would only eat them when you really wanted them?

do you feel like you are thinking about throwing them away because you don't trust yourself with them? just some " food for thought, " best,

abby

 

Yeah, the problem is I like the pistachios, but I thought, what would I do without them? Obviously not eat them! Congratulations that you realize you didn't like the flavor of the ice cream that much, that always helps me to stop eating something. It's a wonderful revelation, isn't it? Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 9:29 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question about timing...bedtime snacks

 

Tai, I just threw out 2 pints of Ben and Jerry's.  I was disappointed in them anyway and didn't think it was worth the splurge. Sandy

 

Yeah, well right now I've eaten a whole load of pistachios and am not in the physical mood to eat anything else. I think I'm going to get rid of the bag of pistachios (even though it was quite expensive) and see where that leads. In the meantime, I'm afraid I'll get hungry (?, if that's possible) later on and those cookies hanging in my refrigerator are sounding pretty good to me. Maybe they're the next to go, I'll let you know. :-) Tai

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 2:31 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question about timing...bedtime snacks

 

Jane funny you should mention that last night I was satisfied and didn't feel the need to have dinner but around 9 Oclock at night I felt hungry but didn't want a full meal so when i feel like that I often have cheese and crackers or some popcorn or cookies and milk.  Eva

 

I was reflecting just the other day that around 9:00 every night while growing up we had " tea time " .  We had tea and sometimes cheese and crackers (small amounts) or a cookie or two...  The tea always had cream and sugar in it.  None of us were fat back then.  Mom's family had done that forever too and none of them were ever fat either.  Strange...> > >> > > How do mothers and others handle being with those, including their children, who may not be hungry when mom is hungry? Do you prepare food later for the child? What if you're a working mom and come home tired, make something for yourself and the family, don't want to force your child to eat, but also don't have the strength to prepare food later on? How do you handle this? Cindi> > >> >>------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Tai,

I am working hard to truly legalize ALL foods for myself, but I think almost all

of us would admit that sometimes, on some items, it can be tricky. If I go in

the kitchen to feed my kids or do the dishes etc. and a treat item is out on the

counter, even if I'm not hungry, I immediately want to eat some. But I have

found that so long as I don't have the most appealing items out on the counter

or in the front of the frig or a cabinet I HAVE to open while feeding my kids, I

usually don't think about them until I'm hungry. And then it's completely okay

to start out eating a serving of that item, although I generally serve myself

something more nutritious next to it (if I don't think it will fill me up alone)

and keep the initial serving sizes reasonable, then play it by ear (but

definitely not by EYE, which always seems to want to eat it ALL if it's on my

plate). Somehow, just the fact that I need to go back into the kitchen for

seconds is often enough to help me become aware that the hunger signal is gone.

Since I KNOW I can have more whenever I am next hungry, that goes well. And I

am astonished to report that when I do get hungry, I often do not even think of

those treats out of sight. For example, in my kitchen right now are... oh never

mind, I don't need to activate anyone's cravings. Suffice it to say, I just ate

and am surprised to realize I never even thought of having any of those!

Jane

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> > eat, but also don't have the strength to prepare food later on? How do you

> > handle this? Cindi

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Sandy, hi. I will respond as I put your statements in brackets.<<Tai, I have to experiment too. Certain foods I bring in I just can't seem to stop eating until they are gone. Gillian said to me to bring those foods in "when I feel it is time, safe". So far with most of them I have not reached that point.>>If that works for you. I am beginning to think, as AA teaches, the bottle in the house might be a worthwhile endeavor. Not everybody can do this, and I think, for alcoholics, this may be a very, very difficult job. I no longer want to prove my strength, that phase is over I think. I am not an alcoholic so fortunately I don't face that prospect in life. But ... here we are on the IE board. :-) trying to help ourselves and others.<< As with chocolate candy, I may have moved beyond that? but I have times

when I haven't. I guess it has gotten better because I used to buy 2(BOGO) and eat both all at once. Last time I ate one and it didn't taste as good and the other one sat on the counter for 3 days. I have a handful of walnuts daily or almonds. Both are satisfying and curb my hunger. They are good if I know it is going to be too long before mt next meal. I know they are still full of calories(diet mentality?) but are healthy too, and I love them. As far as cake or the like I am not ready to have that in the house. When I first started this journey, I ate all the ice cream I wanted and finally got to the point where I didn't really care for it.>>All those statements reverberate with me. I, too, went on certain kicks, including chocolate, candy, and ice cream, they diminished I am happy to say. I did gain weight, but that is not quite the nervousness we want to have with IE, is it? I'm learning to live with

it and adjust my thinking. And yes, occasionally I will have these things but no longer in the ridiculous way I used to have them. Maybe the candy factory analogy is right -- that the manufacturers allow the workers to eat as much of the candy as they like because they know that eventually they will stop eating it! :-)<<It took my throwing out some until I got to that point. But this week Ben and Jerry's was BOGO and I couldn't resist.>>And this week the cream cakes are on sale ... yum ... sounds good ... I think I MAY (I'm not sure yet) buy some. Yes, as you said, our tastes become more discriminating when we realize we CAN have what we want, then somehow certain things just aren't that alluring.<<After eating some I discovered I did not care for it at all? I was really disappointed as I thought B & J would be out of this world. Good lesson. All you can do is experiment I guess.

Sandy>>Yes, thanks for the reply, very insightful and glad to know we're all working on it! :-) Take care. Tai

[Guest guest]

Sandy, hi. I will respond as I put your statements in brackets.<<Tai, I have to experiment too. Certain foods I bring in I just can't seem to stop eating until they are gone. Gillian said to me to bring those foods in "when I feel it is time, safe". So far with most of them I have not reached that point.>>If that works for you. I am beginning to think, as AA teaches, the bottle in the house might be a worthwhile endeavor. Not everybody can do this, and I think, for alcoholics, this may be a very, very difficult job. I no longer want to prove my strength, that phase is over I think. I am not an alcoholic so fortunately I don't face that prospect in life. But ... here we are on the IE board. :-) trying to help ourselves and others.<< As with chocolate candy, I may have moved beyond that? but I have times

when I haven't. I guess it has gotten better because I used to buy 2(BOGO) and eat both all at once. Last time I ate one and it didn't taste as good and the other one sat on the counter for 3 days. I have a handful of walnuts daily or almonds. Both are satisfying and curb my hunger. They are good if I know it is going to be too long before mt next meal. I know they are still full of calories(diet mentality?) but are healthy too, and I love them. As far as cake or the like I am not ready to have that in the house. When I first started this journey, I ate all the ice cream I wanted and finally got to the point where I didn't really care for it.>>All those statements reverberate with me. I, too, went on certain kicks, including chocolate, candy, and ice cream, they diminished I am happy to say. I did gain weight, but that is not quite the nervousness we want to have with IE, is it? I'm learning to live with

it and adjust my thinking. And yes, occasionally I will have these things but no longer in the ridiculous way I used to have them. Maybe the candy factory analogy is right -- that the manufacturers allow the workers to eat as much of the candy as they like because they know that eventually they will stop eating it! :-)<<It took my throwing out some until I got to that point. But this week Ben and Jerry's was BOGO and I couldn't resist.>>And this week the cream cakes are on sale ... yum ... sounds good ... I think I MAY (I'm not sure yet) buy some. Yes, as you said, our tastes become more discriminating when we realize we CAN have what we want, then somehow certain things just aren't that alluring.<<After eating some I discovered I did not care for it at all? I was really disappointed as I thought B & J would be out of this world. Good lesson. All you can do is experiment I guess.

Sandy>>Yes, thanks for the reply, very insightful and glad to know we're all working on it! :-) Take care. Tai

[Guest guest]

Sandy, hi. I will respond as I put your statements in brackets.<<Tai, I have to experiment too. Certain foods I bring in I just can't seem to stop eating until they are gone. Gillian said to me to bring those foods in "when I feel it is time, safe". So far with most of them I have not reached that point.>>If that works for you. I am beginning to think, as AA teaches, the bottle in the house might be a worthwhile endeavor. Not everybody can do this, and I think, for alcoholics, this may be a very, very difficult job. I no longer want to prove my strength, that phase is over I think. I am not an alcoholic so fortunately I don't face that prospect in life. But ... here we are on the IE board. :-) trying to help ourselves and others.<< As with chocolate candy, I may have moved beyond that? but I have times

when I haven't. I guess it has gotten better because I used to buy 2(BOGO) and eat both all at once. Last time I ate one and it didn't taste as good and the other one sat on the counter for 3 days. I have a handful of walnuts daily or almonds. Both are satisfying and curb my hunger. They are good if I know it is going to be too long before mt next meal. I know they are still full of calories(diet mentality?) but are healthy too, and I love them. As far as cake or the like I am not ready to have that in the house. When I first started this journey, I ate all the ice cream I wanted and finally got to the point where I didn't really care for it.>>All those statements reverberate with me. I, too, went on certain kicks, including chocolate, candy, and ice cream, they diminished I am happy to say. I did gain weight, but that is not quite the nervousness we want to have with IE, is it? I'm learning to live with

it and adjust my thinking. And yes, occasionally I will have these things but no longer in the ridiculous way I used to have them. Maybe the candy factory analogy is right -- that the manufacturers allow the workers to eat as much of the candy as they like because they know that eventually they will stop eating it! :-)<<It took my throwing out some until I got to that point. But this week Ben and Jerry's was BOGO and I couldn't resist.>>And this week the cream cakes are on sale ... yum ... sounds good ... I think I MAY (I'm not sure yet) buy some. Yes, as you said, our tastes become more discriminating when we realize we CAN have what we want, then somehow certain things just aren't that alluring.<<After eating some I discovered I did not care for it at all? I was really disappointed as I thought B & J would be out of this world. Good lesson. All you can do is experiment I guess.

Sandy>>Yes, thanks for the reply, very insightful and glad to know we're all working on it! :-) Take care. Tai