Re: small light bulb moment

[Guest guest]

Katcha, Loved the metaphor or " fork " in the road. Sandy

 

I very much liked what Jane recently shared with us from The Overfed Head book. I copied over the text that I felt sang to me and put it right by my place at the dinner table. And completely ignored it!! I found myself eating when I knew I wasn't hungry, didn't panic or such and knew I would figure what was bothering me if I didn't push. When I finally realized that it was because I hadn't been 'following' those excellent guidelines, I knew my drive to eating had been triggered by a feeling of 'failure'.

I am aware of and see myself as a 'fast' type person. I generally pick up new things quickly, usually at first pass. So when I don't immediately 'get' something, a feeling of failure (on my part) can hit me. I eat fast, whether due to habit or that being my 'normal pace' or being over hungry when I sit down or because I prefer hot food to be hot etc. Eating 'mindfully' sounds so alien to me. The few times I have managed to eat without distractions, by own internal gremlins distract me with messages deemed to prevent me from accomplishing this hurdle. Sorta reminds me of sensory deprivation where one's brain hallucinates to 'fill' the void of input. This isn't an excuse, just an observation that I am glad I am able to see for myself.

Bottom line for me - at this moment - is that while I am happy to be at the place I am with my body and eating, I could be approaching a fork (fun pun ;-) in my IE journey? Hmmm. I like to think that I am ready to, as Yogi Berra would say 'When you come to a fork in the road - take it. " , embark on a new path that could lead me to an even better 'place' for me. Finding and understanding MY motivation to do so is what I need to do, not simply follow some 'good guidelines'. That's so instant results type thinking and never destined to work for me in the long run.

Thanks for listening. Its being able to write and share this with all you who can and do understand that helps me help myself.

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

[Guest guest]

Katcha, Loved the metaphor or " fork " in the road. Sandy

 

I very much liked what Jane recently shared with us from The Overfed Head book. I copied over the text that I felt sang to me and put it right by my place at the dinner table. And completely ignored it!! I found myself eating when I knew I wasn't hungry, didn't panic or such and knew I would figure what was bothering me if I didn't push. When I finally realized that it was because I hadn't been 'following' those excellent guidelines, I knew my drive to eating had been triggered by a feeling of 'failure'.

I am aware of and see myself as a 'fast' type person. I generally pick up new things quickly, usually at first pass. So when I don't immediately 'get' something, a feeling of failure (on my part) can hit me. I eat fast, whether due to habit or that being my 'normal pace' or being over hungry when I sit down or because I prefer hot food to be hot etc. Eating 'mindfully' sounds so alien to me. The few times I have managed to eat without distractions, by own internal gremlins distract me with messages deemed to prevent me from accomplishing this hurdle. Sorta reminds me of sensory deprivation where one's brain hallucinates to 'fill' the void of input. This isn't an excuse, just an observation that I am glad I am able to see for myself.

Bottom line for me - at this moment - is that while I am happy to be at the place I am with my body and eating, I could be approaching a fork (fun pun ;-) in my IE journey? Hmmm. I like to think that I am ready to, as Yogi Berra would say 'When you come to a fork in the road - take it. " , embark on a new path that could lead me to an even better 'place' for me. Finding and understanding MY motivation to do so is what I need to do, not simply follow some 'good guidelines'. That's so instant results type thinking and never destined to work for me in the long run.

Thanks for listening. Its being able to write and share this with all you who can and do understand that helps me help myself.

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

[Guest guest]

Katcha, Loved the metaphor or " fork " in the road. Sandy

 

I very much liked what Jane recently shared with us from The Overfed Head book. I copied over the text that I felt sang to me and put it right by my place at the dinner table. And completely ignored it!! I found myself eating when I knew I wasn't hungry, didn't panic or such and knew I would figure what was bothering me if I didn't push. When I finally realized that it was because I hadn't been 'following' those excellent guidelines, I knew my drive to eating had been triggered by a feeling of 'failure'.

I am aware of and see myself as a 'fast' type person. I generally pick up new things quickly, usually at first pass. So when I don't immediately 'get' something, a feeling of failure (on my part) can hit me. I eat fast, whether due to habit or that being my 'normal pace' or being over hungry when I sit down or because I prefer hot food to be hot etc. Eating 'mindfully' sounds so alien to me. The few times I have managed to eat without distractions, by own internal gremlins distract me with messages deemed to prevent me from accomplishing this hurdle. Sorta reminds me of sensory deprivation where one's brain hallucinates to 'fill' the void of input. This isn't an excuse, just an observation that I am glad I am able to see for myself.

Bottom line for me - at this moment - is that while I am happy to be at the place I am with my body and eating, I could be approaching a fork (fun pun ;-) in my IE journey? Hmmm. I like to think that I am ready to, as Yogi Berra would say 'When you come to a fork in the road - take it. " , embark on a new path that could lead me to an even better 'place' for me. Finding and understanding MY motivation to do so is what I need to do, not simply follow some 'good guidelines'. That's so instant results type thinking and never destined to work for me in the long run.

Thanks for listening. Its being able to write and share this with all you who can and do understand that helps me help myself.

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

[Guest guest]

Katcha,

Hearing you'd put information right next to where you eat and STILL ignored it

makes me feel a little less like a failure right this moment. I was doing well,

in that after the BBQ yesterday 3-4:30pm, when I ate dessert when I wasn't

hungry, I waited for hunger, and here it finally was, at 1pm the following day.

I made up a small plate of good food, sat down without distraction - and thought

of everything EXCEPT whether I was still hungry while I " cleaned my plate. " And

duh, I'm full. I can feel it and it hasn't even been 15 minutes yet. Drat it!

I wasn't reading. I wasn't even talking to my husband, who was eating next to

me. I was just zoned out, thinking about what someone shared at church this

morning and how hard that time in his life must have been, etc. and suddenly, I

was done eating everything on my plate. Old habits do not disappear overnight.

I have to focus while I eat, even without external distractions.

But this isn't an intellectual understanding of a truth, this is living it out.

I'm not a failure or stupid just because with the best of intentions, my brain

zoned out and I went into auto-feed mode. I " get it, " it just hasn't become

second nature yet. The old way is the easy way and if I'm not eating mindfully,

of course I'll do it the way I always have.

I am annoyed because my tummy doesn't feel that great - full and heavy instead

of light and not even checking in.

I guess the good news is that once again, I see that God doesn't make junk.

When I ate a bit too much yesterday, my hunger cue didn't come until it was all

used up. I can trust my body to tell me when and how much to eat, if I can

attend to its messages.

Jane

>

> I very much liked what Jane recently shared with us from The Overfed Head

book. I copied over the text that I felt sang to me and put it right by my place

at the dinner table. And completely ignored it!! I found myself eating when I

knew I wasn't hungry, didn't panic or such and knew I would figure what was

bothering me if I didn't push. When I finally realized that it was because I

hadn't been 'following' those excellent guidelines, I knew my drive to eating

had been triggered by a feeling of 'failure'.

>

> I am aware of and see myself as a 'fast' type person. I generally pick up new

things quickly, usually at first pass. So when I don't immediately 'get'

something, a feeling of failure (on my part) can hit me. I eat fast, whether due

to habit or that being my 'normal pace' or being over hungry when I sit down or

because I prefer hot food to be hot etc. Eating 'mindfully' sounds so alien to

me. The few times I have managed to eat without distractions, by own internal

gremlins distract me with messages deemed to prevent me from accomplishing this

hurdle. Sorta reminds me of sensory deprivation where one's brain hallucinates

to 'fill' the void of input. This isn't an excuse, just an observation that I am

glad I am able to see for myself.

>

> Bottom line for me - at this moment - is that while I am happy to be at the

place I am with my body and eating, I could be approaching a fork (fun pun ;-)

in my IE journey? Hmmm. I like to think that I am ready to, as Yogi Berra would

say 'When you come to a fork in the road - take it. " , embark on a new path that

could lead me to an even better 'place' for me. Finding and understanding MY

motivation to do so is what I need to do, not simply follow some 'good

guidelines'. That's so instant results type thinking and never destined to work

for me in the long run.

>

> Thanks for listening. Its being able to write and share this with all you who

can and do understand that helps me help myself.

>

> Katcha

> IEing since March 2007

>

[Guest guest]

Katcha,

Hearing you'd put information right next to where you eat and STILL ignored it

makes me feel a little less like a failure right this moment. I was doing well,

in that after the BBQ yesterday 3-4:30pm, when I ate dessert when I wasn't

hungry, I waited for hunger, and here it finally was, at 1pm the following day.

I made up a small plate of good food, sat down without distraction - and thought

of everything EXCEPT whether I was still hungry while I " cleaned my plate. " And

duh, I'm full. I can feel it and it hasn't even been 15 minutes yet. Drat it!

I wasn't reading. I wasn't even talking to my husband, who was eating next to

me. I was just zoned out, thinking about what someone shared at church this

morning and how hard that time in his life must have been, etc. and suddenly, I

was done eating everything on my plate. Old habits do not disappear overnight.

I have to focus while I eat, even without external distractions.

But this isn't an intellectual understanding of a truth, this is living it out.

I'm not a failure or stupid just because with the best of intentions, my brain

zoned out and I went into auto-feed mode. I " get it, " it just hasn't become

second nature yet. The old way is the easy way and if I'm not eating mindfully,

of course I'll do it the way I always have.

I am annoyed because my tummy doesn't feel that great - full and heavy instead

of light and not even checking in.

I guess the good news is that once again, I see that God doesn't make junk.

When I ate a bit too much yesterday, my hunger cue didn't come until it was all

used up. I can trust my body to tell me when and how much to eat, if I can

attend to its messages.

Jane

>

> I very much liked what Jane recently shared with us from The Overfed Head

book. I copied over the text that I felt sang to me and put it right by my place

at the dinner table. And completely ignored it!! I found myself eating when I

knew I wasn't hungry, didn't panic or such and knew I would figure what was

bothering me if I didn't push. When I finally realized that it was because I

hadn't been 'following' those excellent guidelines, I knew my drive to eating

had been triggered by a feeling of 'failure'.

>

> I am aware of and see myself as a 'fast' type person. I generally pick up new

things quickly, usually at first pass. So when I don't immediately 'get'

something, a feeling of failure (on my part) can hit me. I eat fast, whether due

to habit or that being my 'normal pace' or being over hungry when I sit down or

because I prefer hot food to be hot etc. Eating 'mindfully' sounds so alien to

me. The few times I have managed to eat without distractions, by own internal

gremlins distract me with messages deemed to prevent me from accomplishing this

hurdle. Sorta reminds me of sensory deprivation where one's brain hallucinates

to 'fill' the void of input. This isn't an excuse, just an observation that I am

glad I am able to see for myself.

>

> Bottom line for me - at this moment - is that while I am happy to be at the

place I am with my body and eating, I could be approaching a fork (fun pun ;-)

in my IE journey? Hmmm. I like to think that I am ready to, as Yogi Berra would

say 'When you come to a fork in the road - take it. " , embark on a new path that

could lead me to an even better 'place' for me. Finding and understanding MY

motivation to do so is what I need to do, not simply follow some 'good

guidelines'. That's so instant results type thinking and never destined to work

for me in the long run.

>

> Thanks for listening. Its being able to write and share this with all you who

can and do understand that helps me help myself.

>

> Katcha

> IEing since March 2007

>

[Guest guest]

Katcha,

Hearing you'd put information right next to where you eat and STILL ignored it

makes me feel a little less like a failure right this moment. I was doing well,

in that after the BBQ yesterday 3-4:30pm, when I ate dessert when I wasn't

hungry, I waited for hunger, and here it finally was, at 1pm the following day.

I made up a small plate of good food, sat down without distraction - and thought

of everything EXCEPT whether I was still hungry while I " cleaned my plate. " And

duh, I'm full. I can feel it and it hasn't even been 15 minutes yet. Drat it!

I wasn't reading. I wasn't even talking to my husband, who was eating next to

me. I was just zoned out, thinking about what someone shared at church this

morning and how hard that time in his life must have been, etc. and suddenly, I

was done eating everything on my plate. Old habits do not disappear overnight.

I have to focus while I eat, even without external distractions.

But this isn't an intellectual understanding of a truth, this is living it out.

I'm not a failure or stupid just because with the best of intentions, my brain

zoned out and I went into auto-feed mode. I " get it, " it just hasn't become

second nature yet. The old way is the easy way and if I'm not eating mindfully,

of course I'll do it the way I always have.

I am annoyed because my tummy doesn't feel that great - full and heavy instead

of light and not even checking in.

I guess the good news is that once again, I see that God doesn't make junk.

When I ate a bit too much yesterday, my hunger cue didn't come until it was all

used up. I can trust my body to tell me when and how much to eat, if I can

attend to its messages.

Jane

>

> I very much liked what Jane recently shared with us from The Overfed Head

book. I copied over the text that I felt sang to me and put it right by my place

at the dinner table. And completely ignored it!! I found myself eating when I

knew I wasn't hungry, didn't panic or such and knew I would figure what was

bothering me if I didn't push. When I finally realized that it was because I

hadn't been 'following' those excellent guidelines, I knew my drive to eating

had been triggered by a feeling of 'failure'.

>

> I am aware of and see myself as a 'fast' type person. I generally pick up new

things quickly, usually at first pass. So when I don't immediately 'get'

something, a feeling of failure (on my part) can hit me. I eat fast, whether due

to habit or that being my 'normal pace' or being over hungry when I sit down or

because I prefer hot food to be hot etc. Eating 'mindfully' sounds so alien to

me. The few times I have managed to eat without distractions, by own internal

gremlins distract me with messages deemed to prevent me from accomplishing this

hurdle. Sorta reminds me of sensory deprivation where one's brain hallucinates

to 'fill' the void of input. This isn't an excuse, just an observation that I am

glad I am able to see for myself.

>

> Bottom line for me - at this moment - is that while I am happy to be at the

place I am with my body and eating, I could be approaching a fork (fun pun ;-)

in my IE journey? Hmmm. I like to think that I am ready to, as Yogi Berra would

say 'When you come to a fork in the road - take it. " , embark on a new path that

could lead me to an even better 'place' for me. Finding and understanding MY

motivation to do so is what I need to do, not simply follow some 'good

guidelines'. That's so instant results type thinking and never destined to work

for me in the long run.

>

> Thanks for listening. Its being able to write and share this with all you who

can and do understand that helps me help myself.

>

> Katcha

> IEing since March 2007

>

[Guest guest]

" You said a mouth (or is that tummy?!? lol) full Jane! Old habits are like

favorite shoes - too comfortable to give up! This is about the only time I

wished I was living nearer a larger city - then I could round up a few like

minded IE people and have Mindfullness Eating 'classes'! I've read about IE type

'retreats' where there are such seminars, including EATING classes. I think

members here could arrange such for themselves IF they can get together in a

single location that is.

Your mention that you were done before you noticed any signal is what I

connected with in the text you shared -

" Most overeaters fail to perceive the moment of satisfaction because they are

busy pursuing fullness. "

Its the 'learning' of satisfaction that eludes me when I start to eat. I can and

do - sometimes - catch myself, mid meal eating fast and mindlessly. I have been

able to slow sometimes but sensing satisfaction seems like 'hearing green' or

'smelling a song' - elusive if not impossible?

Hopefully in discussing this some ideas will make themselves known to us all :-)

ehugs, Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> Katcha,

>

> Hearing you'd put information right next to where you eat and STILL ignored it

makes me feel a little less like a failure right this moment. I was doing well,

in that after the BBQ yesterday 3-4:30pm, when I ate dessert when I wasn't

hungry, I waited for hunger, and here it finally was, at 1pm the following day.

I made up a small plate of good food, sat down without distraction - and thought

of everything EXCEPT whether I was still hungry while I " cleaned my plate. " And

duh, I'm full. I can feel it and it hasn't even been 15 minutes yet. Drat it!

I wasn't reading. I wasn't even talking to my husband, who was eating next to

me. I was just zoned out, thinking about what someone shared at church this

morning and how hard that time in his life must have been, etc. and suddenly, I

was done eating everything on my plate. Old habits do not disappear overnight.

I have to focus while I eat, even without external distractions.

>

> But this isn't an intellectual understanding of a truth, this is living it

out. I'm not a failure or stupid just because with the best of intentions, my

brain zoned out and I went into auto-feed mode. I " get it, " it just hasn't

become second nature yet. The old way is the easy way and if I'm not eating

mindfully, of course I'll do it the way I always have.

>

> I am annoyed because my tummy doesn't feel that great - full and heavy instead

of light and not even checking in.

>

> I guess the good news is that once again, I see that God doesn't make junk.

When I ate a bit too much yesterday, my hunger cue didn't come until it was all

used up. I can trust my body to tell me when and how much to eat, if I can

attend to its messages.

>

> Jane

[Guest guest]

ok, Katcha, what would the fork be (metaphorically speaking of course). yes, writing about our journey does help, so thanks for your posts also others' posts and insights as well. So what is the 'fork' you are referring to? TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 3:54 PMSubject: Re:

small light bulb moment

Katcha, Loved the metaphor or "fork" in the road. Sandy

I very much liked what Jane recently shared with us from The Overfed Head book. I copied over the text that I felt sang to me and put it right by my place at the dinner table. And completely ignored it!! I found myself eating when I knew I wasn't hungry, didn't panic or such and knew I would figure what was bothering me if I didn't push. When I finally realized that it was because I hadn't been 'following' those excellent guidelines, I knew my drive to eating had been triggered by a feeling of 'failure'.

I am aware of and see myself as a 'fast' type person. I generally pick up new things quickly, usually at first pass. So when I don't immediately 'get' something, a feeling of failure (on my part) can hit me. I eat fast, whether due to habit or that being my 'normal pace' or being over hungry when I sit down or because I prefer hot food to be hot etc. Eating 'mindfully' sounds so alien to me. The few times I have managed to eat without distractions, by own internal gremlins distract me with messages deemed to prevent me from accomplishing this hurdle. Sorta reminds me of sensory deprivation where one's brain hallucinates to 'fill' the void of input. This isn't an excuse, just an observation that I am glad I am able to see for myself.

Bottom line for me - at this moment - is that while I am happy to be at the place I am with my body and eating, I could be approaching a fork (fun pun ;-) in my IE journey? Hmmm. I like to think that I am ready to, as Yogi Berra would say 'When you come to a fork in the road - take it.", embark on a new path that could lead me to an even better 'place' for me. Finding and understanding MY motivation to do so is what I need to do, not simply follow some 'good guidelines'. That's so instant results type thinking and never destined to work for me in the long run.

Thanks for listening. Its being able to write and share this with all you who can and do understand that helps me help myself.

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

[Guest guest]

ok, Katcha, what would the fork be (metaphorically speaking of course). yes, writing about our journey does help, so thanks for your posts also others' posts and insights as well. So what is the 'fork' you are referring to? TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 3:54 PMSubject: Re:

small light bulb moment

Katcha, Loved the metaphor or "fork" in the road. Sandy

I very much liked what Jane recently shared with us from The Overfed Head book. I copied over the text that I felt sang to me and put it right by my place at the dinner table. And completely ignored it!! I found myself eating when I knew I wasn't hungry, didn't panic or such and knew I would figure what was bothering me if I didn't push. When I finally realized that it was because I hadn't been 'following' those excellent guidelines, I knew my drive to eating had been triggered by a feeling of 'failure'.

I am aware of and see myself as a 'fast' type person. I generally pick up new things quickly, usually at first pass. So when I don't immediately 'get' something, a feeling of failure (on my part) can hit me. I eat fast, whether due to habit or that being my 'normal pace' or being over hungry when I sit down or because I prefer hot food to be hot etc. Eating 'mindfully' sounds so alien to me. The few times I have managed to eat without distractions, by own internal gremlins distract me with messages deemed to prevent me from accomplishing this hurdle. Sorta reminds me of sensory deprivation where one's brain hallucinates to 'fill' the void of input. This isn't an excuse, just an observation that I am glad I am able to see for myself.

Bottom line for me - at this moment - is that while I am happy to be at the place I am with my body and eating, I could be approaching a fork (fun pun ;-) in my IE journey? Hmmm. I like to think that I am ready to, as Yogi Berra would say 'When you come to a fork in the road - take it.", embark on a new path that could lead me to an even better 'place' for me. Finding and understanding MY motivation to do so is what I need to do, not simply follow some 'good guidelines'. That's so instant results type thinking and never destined to work for me in the long run.

Thanks for listening. Its being able to write and share this with all you who can and do understand that helps me help myself.

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

[Guest guest]

ok, Katcha, what would the fork be (metaphorically speaking of course). yes, writing about our journey does help, so thanks for your posts also others' posts and insights as well. So what is the 'fork' you are referring to? TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 3:54 PMSubject: Re:

small light bulb moment

Katcha, Loved the metaphor or "fork" in the road. Sandy

I very much liked what Jane recently shared with us from The Overfed Head book. I copied over the text that I felt sang to me and put it right by my place at the dinner table. And completely ignored it!! I found myself eating when I knew I wasn't hungry, didn't panic or such and knew I would figure what was bothering me if I didn't push. When I finally realized that it was because I hadn't been 'following' those excellent guidelines, I knew my drive to eating had been triggered by a feeling of 'failure'.

I am aware of and see myself as a 'fast' type person. I generally pick up new things quickly, usually at first pass. So when I don't immediately 'get' something, a feeling of failure (on my part) can hit me. I eat fast, whether due to habit or that being my 'normal pace' or being over hungry when I sit down or because I prefer hot food to be hot etc. Eating 'mindfully' sounds so alien to me. The few times I have managed to eat without distractions, by own internal gremlins distract me with messages deemed to prevent me from accomplishing this hurdle. Sorta reminds me of sensory deprivation where one's brain hallucinates to 'fill' the void of input. This isn't an excuse, just an observation that I am glad I am able to see for myself.

Bottom line for me - at this moment - is that while I am happy to be at the place I am with my body and eating, I could be approaching a fork (fun pun ;-) in my IE journey? Hmmm. I like to think that I am ready to, as Yogi Berra would say 'When you come to a fork in the road - take it.", embark on a new path that could lead me to an even better 'place' for me. Finding and understanding MY motivation to do so is what I need to do, not simply follow some 'good guidelines'. That's so instant results type thinking and never destined to work for me in the long run.

Thanks for listening. Its being able to write and share this with all you who can and do understand that helps me help myself.

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

[Guest guest]

>

> ok, Katcha, So what is the 'fork' you are referring to? Tai

> > Eating 'mindfully' sounds so alien to me. The few times I have

> > managed to eat without distractions, by own internal gremlins distract > >

me with messages deemed to prevent me from accomplishing this > > hurdle.

The fork presenting itself to me on my IE journey is for Mindful Eating Way ;-)

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

[Guest guest]

>

> ok, Katcha, So what is the 'fork' you are referring to? Tai

> > Eating 'mindfully' sounds so alien to me. The few times I have

> > managed to eat without distractions, by own internal gremlins distract > >

me with messages deemed to prevent me from accomplishing this > > hurdle.

The fork presenting itself to me on my IE journey is for Mindful Eating Way ;-)

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

[Guest guest]

Tai, I'm not so much afraid as some what resistant? I totally do NOT like being

forced into doing anything which immediately sets me into 'mule mode' :-)

Should, ought, gotta etc. really trigger me and won't help me forward in a

positive way. Yet the irony is that I am a rather 'driven' type person with lots

of determination and follow through. I suppose that deep down I have a very

strong 'can't be fooled' (aka B$) factor and I especially react when I find I am

doing such a thing to myself!

So knowing that a path towards Mindfulness is available to me is 1) a positive

option that I can or not choose for myself (at this time) and 2) something I

know will be uncomfortable initially but so excellent for me when I gain that

practice for myself. When I do my first step that-a-way, it will be all my own

wanting and notion.

As I re-read your post, my reaction is I also get a sense that you feel 'driven'

too? One of the most shocking things I've discovered about myself via IE is that

I really don't have a strong motivation to 'be thin'! I am OK with who I am, the

body I have and relaxed a LOT when I was able to drop the 'fight' I was having

with trying to meet the world's expectations of me! These days I do feel

'lighter' (less burdened or bogged down physically) and marvel at how

uninterested I am at times - even when I know I AM hungry. How I, who was sooo

focused on food and eating, could find that needing to eat is a 'bother' is

truly amazing to me. Thoughts of 'self control' (re eating) have pretty much

exited my life too.

Keep up the good work and tell those diet demons to PUSH OFF! lol

ehugs, Katcha

IEing since March 2007

> >

> > ok, Katcha, So what is the 'fork' you are referring to? Tai

>

> > > Eating 'mindfully' sounds so alien to me. The few times I have

> > managed to eat without distractions, by own internal gremlins distract > >

me with messages deemed to prevent me from accomplishing this > > hurdle.

>

> The fork presenting itself to me on my IE journey is for Mindful Eating Way

;-)

>

> Katcha

> IEing since March 2007

>

[Guest guest]

Tai, I'm not so much afraid as some what resistant? I totally do NOT like being

forced into doing anything which immediately sets me into 'mule mode' :-)

Should, ought, gotta etc. really trigger me and won't help me forward in a

positive way. Yet the irony is that I am a rather 'driven' type person with lots

of determination and follow through. I suppose that deep down I have a very

strong 'can't be fooled' (aka B$) factor and I especially react when I find I am

doing such a thing to myself!

So knowing that a path towards Mindfulness is available to me is 1) a positive

option that I can or not choose for myself (at this time) and 2) something I

know will be uncomfortable initially but so excellent for me when I gain that

practice for myself. When I do my first step that-a-way, it will be all my own

wanting and notion.

As I re-read your post, my reaction is I also get a sense that you feel 'driven'

too? One of the most shocking things I've discovered about myself via IE is that

I really don't have a strong motivation to 'be thin'! I am OK with who I am, the

body I have and relaxed a LOT when I was able to drop the 'fight' I was having

with trying to meet the world's expectations of me! These days I do feel

'lighter' (less burdened or bogged down physically) and marvel at how

uninterested I am at times - even when I know I AM hungry. How I, who was sooo

focused on food and eating, could find that needing to eat is a 'bother' is

truly amazing to me. Thoughts of 'self control' (re eating) have pretty much

exited my life too.

Keep up the good work and tell those diet demons to PUSH OFF! lol

ehugs, Katcha

IEing since March 2007

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> Katcha

> IEing since March 2007

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Sandy,

If you allow yourself to spend the few dollars it would cost to buy yourself

some comfortable undies, you will be sending yourself a message that you are

worthy, just as you are today. If you go a step further and buy the prettiest

or sexiest ones available in your size, you will be sending yourself a powerful

message about your attractiveness AS YOU ARE TODAY. And as women, no matter how

we may fight it, feeling ugly really messes with our sense of self-worth. And

maybe nobody else will know what you're wearing underneath your clothes, but YOU

will feel more comfortable and more attractive. In my experience, it was only

once I'd read " The Body Love Manual " and somehow looked at myself differently in

the mirror and could see myself as feminine and lovely, that I could begin to

take care of myself with IE. So I'd encourage you to pamper yourself by buying

some pretty and comfortable undies. I think you're worth it!

Jane

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Oh Sandy,

You gave me a laugh, remembering times I've tried some of the styles you

mentioned! NOT sexy! And I'm with you on itchy laces. Underwear should not

make their presence known all day - that's what's wrong with wearing too tight

ones. But even " old lady " panties in a comfy cotton can be very pretty in fun

colors and prints - so much more rewarding than plain white or beige!

Jane

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Oh Sandy,

You gave me a laugh, remembering times I've tried some of the styles you

mentioned! NOT sexy! And I'm with you on itchy laces. Underwear should not

make their presence known all day - that's what's wrong with wearing too tight

ones. But even " old lady " panties in a comfy cotton can be very pretty in fun

colors and prints - so much more rewarding than plain white or beige!

Jane

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> > > > > The fork presenting itself to me on my IE journey is for Mindful

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> > > > > IEing since March 2007

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Oh Sandy,

You gave me a laugh, remembering times I've tried some of the styles you

mentioned! NOT sexy! And I'm with you on itchy laces. Underwear should not

make their presence known all day - that's what's wrong with wearing too tight

ones. But even " old lady " panties in a comfy cotton can be very pretty in fun

colors and prints - so much more rewarding than plain white or beige!

Jane

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> > > > > > ok, Katcha, So what is the 'fork' you are referring to? Tai

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> > > > > IEing since March 2007

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