Re: Why nutrition is relative

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Ah yes, good points all. Those are what I consider to be my deeper issues -

being in places and with people with whom I have no sense of equilibrium. It's

gonna be some sorting out for me to get through those times when I am not even

" in " my body much less able to know if I'm full. Sandarah

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> > > > From: Patti Thorp <clicklbd@>

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Ah yes, good points all. Those are what I consider to be my deeper issues -

being in places and with people with whom I have no sense of equilibrium. It's

gonna be some sorting out for me to get through those times when I am not even

" in " my body much less able to know if I'm full. Sandarah

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> > > > From: Patti Thorp <clicklbd@>

> > > > Subject: Re: Why nutrition is relative

> > > > To: " IntuitiveEating_Support "

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Patti,

I was reading Overcoming Overeating the other day and their philosophy on handling emotional eating is to tackle the eating part first, rather than feeling like you have to solve all of your life's problems in order to eat normally. If I had to do that, it would never happen . When you are eating and the worrisome thoughts come up, just try to notice them and gently get back to your plate. Keep doing this again and again, even if you only manage to focus on your body and hunger signals for a few minutes each meal. It will get better with practice. I think we all deal with how to eat to honor our bodies when our minds are in turmoil. Perhaps meditation, which is a practice that focuses on letting intrusive thoughts gently go, may help you in your IE practice as well.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Why nutrition is relativeTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 12:44 PM

Patti,Only noticing you were agitated (a warning sign we often give less importance than it should have), when your elevated bp (an "external" measure of a body reality, much like the scale or a blood sugar reading, all of which naturally fluctuate significantly) told your surgeon you were in pain, is a GREAT illustration of how out of touch we can so easily be with our bodies. I too keep getting disgusted when seemingly out of nowhere, my tummy aches from too much food and I hadn't noticed anything to tell me it was time to stop eating. But I have been under excessively high stress recently and have noticed I pretty much eat whatever is on my plate, as I can't seem to quiet my thoughts and be able to focus on eating and bodily sensations. I'm also noticing the food doesn't taste as great, probably because I'm so distracted, because the first couple of bites do, then the worrisome thoughts come back and I hardly notice the food at all until

it's mysteriously gone. I'm thinking I'm not getting anything positive out of overeating this way, and really want to find my way back to eating much smaller portions with enjoyment and then being completely satisfied until my next hunger. Focusing through stress/anxiety/agitation to notice body signals is difficult. Does anyone else have any helpful suggestions you have found worked when the stress was high enough to put you in that agitated, fight-or-flight mode? Or perhaps I just need to do everything I can to reduce the anxiety level and delay eating until I'm calmer or at least eat alone when I'm stressed?Jane> > > > > > > > > From: Patti Thorp <clicklbd@>> > > Subject: Re: Why nutrition is relative> > > To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >> > > Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 9:27 AM> > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > >

> If something tastes good, I have a hard time stopping at "satisfied" or "comfortable." I am finding by giving myself a smaller portion, that helps but it's hard. > > > > > > > > > Patti> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > >> > > >>

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Patti,

I was reading Overcoming Overeating the other day and their philosophy on handling emotional eating is to tackle the eating part first, rather than feeling like you have to solve all of your life's problems in order to eat normally. If I had to do that, it would never happen . When you are eating and the worrisome thoughts come up, just try to notice them and gently get back to your plate. Keep doing this again and again, even if you only manage to focus on your body and hunger signals for a few minutes each meal. It will get better with practice. I think we all deal with how to eat to honor our bodies when our minds are in turmoil. Perhaps meditation, which is a practice that focuses on letting intrusive thoughts gently go, may help you in your IE practice as well.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Why nutrition is relativeTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 12:44 PM

Patti,Only noticing you were agitated (a warning sign we often give less importance than it should have), when your elevated bp (an "external" measure of a body reality, much like the scale or a blood sugar reading, all of which naturally fluctuate significantly) told your surgeon you were in pain, is a GREAT illustration of how out of touch we can so easily be with our bodies. I too keep getting disgusted when seemingly out of nowhere, my tummy aches from too much food and I hadn't noticed anything to tell me it was time to stop eating. But I have been under excessively high stress recently and have noticed I pretty much eat whatever is on my plate, as I can't seem to quiet my thoughts and be able to focus on eating and bodily sensations. I'm also noticing the food doesn't taste as great, probably because I'm so distracted, because the first couple of bites do, then the worrisome thoughts come back and I hardly notice the food at all until

it's mysteriously gone. I'm thinking I'm not getting anything positive out of overeating this way, and really want to find my way back to eating much smaller portions with enjoyment and then being completely satisfied until my next hunger. Focusing through stress/anxiety/agitation to notice body signals is difficult. Does anyone else have any helpful suggestions you have found worked when the stress was high enough to put you in that agitated, fight-or-flight mode? Or perhaps I just need to do everything I can to reduce the anxiety level and delay eating until I'm calmer or at least eat alone when I'm stressed?Jane> > > > > > > > > From: Patti Thorp <clicklbd@>> > > Subject: Re: Why nutrition is relative> > > To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >> > > Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 9:27 AM> > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > >

> If something tastes good, I have a hard time stopping at "satisfied" or "comfortable." I am finding by giving myself a smaller portion, that helps but it's hard. > > > > > > > > > Patti> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > >> > > >>

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Patti,

I was reading Overcoming Overeating the other day and their philosophy on handling emotional eating is to tackle the eating part first, rather than feeling like you have to solve all of your life's problems in order to eat normally. If I had to do that, it would never happen . When you are eating and the worrisome thoughts come up, just try to notice them and gently get back to your plate. Keep doing this again and again, even if you only manage to focus on your body and hunger signals for a few minutes each meal. It will get better with practice. I think we all deal with how to eat to honor our bodies when our minds are in turmoil. Perhaps meditation, which is a practice that focuses on letting intrusive thoughts gently go, may help you in your IE practice as well.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Why nutrition is relativeTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 12:44 PM

Patti,Only noticing you were agitated (a warning sign we often give less importance than it should have), when your elevated bp (an "external" measure of a body reality, much like the scale or a blood sugar reading, all of which naturally fluctuate significantly) told your surgeon you were in pain, is a GREAT illustration of how out of touch we can so easily be with our bodies. I too keep getting disgusted when seemingly out of nowhere, my tummy aches from too much food and I hadn't noticed anything to tell me it was time to stop eating. But I have been under excessively high stress recently and have noticed I pretty much eat whatever is on my plate, as I can't seem to quiet my thoughts and be able to focus on eating and bodily sensations. I'm also noticing the food doesn't taste as great, probably because I'm so distracted, because the first couple of bites do, then the worrisome thoughts come back and I hardly notice the food at all until

it's mysteriously gone. I'm thinking I'm not getting anything positive out of overeating this way, and really want to find my way back to eating much smaller portions with enjoyment and then being completely satisfied until my next hunger. Focusing through stress/anxiety/agitation to notice body signals is difficult. Does anyone else have any helpful suggestions you have found worked when the stress was high enough to put you in that agitated, fight-or-flight mode? Or perhaps I just need to do everything I can to reduce the anxiety level and delay eating until I'm calmer or at least eat alone when I'm stressed?Jane> > > > > > > > > From: Patti Thorp <clicklbd@>> > > Subject: Re: Why nutrition is relative> > > To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >> > > Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 9:27 AM> > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > >

> If something tastes good, I have a hard time stopping at "satisfied" or "comfortable." I am finding by giving myself a smaller portion, that helps but it's hard. > > > > > > > > > Patti> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > >> > > >>

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I think you meant Jane. . I'm one of those who tends not to eat when stressed...

Patti,

I was reading Overcoming Overeating the other day and their philosophy on handling emotional eating is to tackle the eating part first, rather than feeling like you have to solve all of your life's problems in order to eat normally. If I had to do that, it would never happen . When you are eating and the worrisome thoughts come up, just try to notice them and gently get back to your plate. Keep doing this again and again, even if you only manage to focus on your body and hunger signals for a few minutes each meal. It will get better with practice. I think we all deal with how to eat to honor our bodies when our minds are in turmoil. Perhaps meditation, which is a practice that focuses on letting intrusive thoughts gently go, may help you in your IE practice as well.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Why nutrition is relativeTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 12:44 PM

Patti,Only noticing you were agitated (a warning sign we often give less importance than it should have), when your elevated bp (an "external" measure of a body reality, much like the scale or a blood sugar reading, all of which naturally fluctuate significantly) told your surgeon you were in pain, is a GREAT illustration of how out of touch we can so easily be with our bodies. I too keep getting disgusted when seemingly out of nowhere, my tummy aches from too much food and I hadn't noticed anything to tell me it was time to stop eating. But I have been under excessively high stress recently and have noticed I pretty much eat whatever is on my plate, as I can't seem to quiet my thoughts and be able to focus on eating and bodily sensations. I'm also noticing the food doesn't taste as great, probably because I'm so distracted, because the first couple of bites do, then the worrisome thoughts come back and I hardly notice the food at all until

it's mysteriously gone. I'm thinking I'm not getting anything positive out of overeating this way, and really want to find my way back to eating much smaller portions with enjoyment and then being completely satisfied until my next hunger. Focusing through stress/anxiety/agitation to notice body signals is difficult. Does anyone else have any helpful suggestions you have found worked when the stress was high enough to put you in that agitated, fight-or-flight mode? Or perhaps I just need to do everything I can to reduce the anxiety level and delay eating until I'm calmer or at least eat alone when I'm stressed?Jane> > > > > > > > > From: Patti Thorp <clicklbd@>> > > Subject: Re: Why nutrition is relative> > > To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >> > > Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 9:27 AM> > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > >

> If something tastes good, I have a hard time stopping at "satisfied" or "comfortable." I am finding by giving myself a smaller portion, that helps but it's hard. > > > > > > > > > Patti> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > >> > > >>

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I think you meant Jane. . I'm one of those who tends not to eat when stressed...

Patti,

I was reading Overcoming Overeating the other day and their philosophy on handling emotional eating is to tackle the eating part first, rather than feeling like you have to solve all of your life's problems in order to eat normally. If I had to do that, it would never happen . When you are eating and the worrisome thoughts come up, just try to notice them and gently get back to your plate. Keep doing this again and again, even if you only manage to focus on your body and hunger signals for a few minutes each meal. It will get better with practice. I think we all deal with how to eat to honor our bodies when our minds are in turmoil. Perhaps meditation, which is a practice that focuses on letting intrusive thoughts gently go, may help you in your IE practice as well.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Why nutrition is relativeTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 12:44 PM

Patti,Only noticing you were agitated (a warning sign we often give less importance than it should have), when your elevated bp (an "external" measure of a body reality, much like the scale or a blood sugar reading, all of which naturally fluctuate significantly) told your surgeon you were in pain, is a GREAT illustration of how out of touch we can so easily be with our bodies. I too keep getting disgusted when seemingly out of nowhere, my tummy aches from too much food and I hadn't noticed anything to tell me it was time to stop eating. But I have been under excessively high stress recently and have noticed I pretty much eat whatever is on my plate, as I can't seem to quiet my thoughts and be able to focus on eating and bodily sensations. I'm also noticing the food doesn't taste as great, probably because I'm so distracted, because the first couple of bites do, then the worrisome thoughts come back and I hardly notice the food at all until

it's mysteriously gone. I'm thinking I'm not getting anything positive out of overeating this way, and really want to find my way back to eating much smaller portions with enjoyment and then being completely satisfied until my next hunger. Focusing through stress/anxiety/agitation to notice body signals is difficult. Does anyone else have any helpful suggestions you have found worked when the stress was high enough to put you in that agitated, fight-or-flight mode? Or perhaps I just need to do everything I can to reduce the anxiety level and delay eating until I'm calmer or at least eat alone when I'm stressed?Jane> > > > > > > > > From: Patti Thorp <clicklbd@>> > > Subject: Re: Why nutrition is relative> > > To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >> > > Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 9:27 AM> > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > >

> If something tastes good, I have a hard time stopping at "satisfied" or "comfortable." I am finding by giving myself a smaller portion, that helps but it's hard. > > > > > > > > > Patti> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > >> > > >>