Guest guest Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 , our dear Abby is probably offline at this moment, hopefully welcoming her expected daughter right now too! She posted about her concerns and battles with PCOS a while back so you may want to see if the Search feature here could find those posts for you to read. Meanwhile WAVING to Abby and letting her know I'm thinking of her! (we are a childless couple too and happy with that regardless of 'causing' reasons or social pressures). Best wishes, Katcha IEing since march 2007 > > Can any women with PCOS and more experience in IE tell me if you've seen any improvement in your PCOS? > > I guess my concern is that my body is so out of whack hormonally, that my body won't " choose " the right foods. I do know that women with PCOS are often overweight, and I have completely accepted that whatever setpoint I end up at will probably still be overweight. I'm OK with that, that doesn't really concern me. What concerns me is that I want to do what's best for my body, and there is so much conflicting information on what's best for women with PCOS. > > I will also say that fertility is not really a worry. My husband and I are both childfree by choice. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 , our dear Abby is probably offline at this moment, hopefully welcoming her expected daughter right now too! She posted about her concerns and battles with PCOS a while back so you may want to see if the Search feature here could find those posts for you to read. Meanwhile WAVING to Abby and letting her know I'm thinking of her! (we are a childless couple too and happy with that regardless of 'causing' reasons or social pressures). Best wishes, Katcha IEing since march 2007 > > Can any women with PCOS and more experience in IE tell me if you've seen any improvement in your PCOS? > > I guess my concern is that my body is so out of whack hormonally, that my body won't " choose " the right foods. I do know that women with PCOS are often overweight, and I have completely accepted that whatever setpoint I end up at will probably still be overweight. I'm OK with that, that doesn't really concern me. What concerns me is that I want to do what's best for my body, and there is so much conflicting information on what's best for women with PCOS. > > I will also say that fertility is not really a worry. My husband and I are both childfree by choice. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 , our dear Abby is probably offline at this moment, hopefully welcoming her expected daughter right now too! She posted about her concerns and battles with PCOS a while back so you may want to see if the Search feature here could find those posts for you to read. Meanwhile WAVING to Abby and letting her know I'm thinking of her! (we are a childless couple too and happy with that regardless of 'causing' reasons or social pressures). Best wishes, Katcha IEing since march 2007 > > Can any women with PCOS and more experience in IE tell me if you've seen any improvement in your PCOS? > > I guess my concern is that my body is so out of whack hormonally, that my body won't " choose " the right foods. I do know that women with PCOS are often overweight, and I have completely accepted that whatever setpoint I end up at will probably still be overweight. I'm OK with that, that doesn't really concern me. What concerns me is that I want to do what's best for my body, and there is so much conflicting information on what's best for women with PCOS. > > I will also say that fertility is not really a worry. My husband and I are both childfree by choice. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 I have PCOS and gained 80 pounds at puberty. Weight loss has always been twice as slow for me as girlfriends on the same plan, with lots of plateaus. As part of the Metabolic Syndrome, it includes insulin resistance and a strong tendency toward Type 2 Diabetes. Regardless, my experience has been that trying to restrict carbs and sugars was counterproductive, increasing cravings and emotional eating. I'm trusting my body to select well in the long run and so far, haven't had any increased draw toward sweets. Only 2 weeks in, I don't have any data to report on any effect on the PCOS, but I don't think I could help on that anyway, as I'm in perimenopause now. I never noticed any major changes in the past due to dietary changes or weight fluctuations, although supposedly fertility sometimes improves when women with PCOS attain a normal weight. But I understand that isn't a concern for you. I have actually lost weight faster these 2 weeks with IE than on any diet plan I've tried - without deprivation, food obsession, etc.! But since my weight does tend to fluctuate within a 3 pound range, I expect at some point to see it rise a bit. I guess it comes back to trusting our bodies to indicate what is healthiest for them. Jane > > Can any women with PCOS and more experience in IE tell me if you've seen any improvement in your PCOS? > > I guess my concern is that my body is so out of whack hormonally, that my body won't " choose " the right foods. I do know that women with PCOS are often overweight, and I have completely accepted that whatever setpoint I end up at will probably still be overweight. I'm OK with that, that doesn't really concern me. What concerns me is that I want to do what's best for my body, and there is so much conflicting information on what's best for women with PCOS. > > I will also say that fertility is not really a worry. My husband and I are both childfree by choice. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Balancing IE and the insulin resistance that comes from PCOS is something I still struggle with. The cravings for sugar/carbs...the excessive hunger that is either caused by the excess insulin or the excess testosterone that comes with PCOS (I've heard both cited as a reason)...both wreak havoc on my desire to listen to my bodyI've found that I do better all around, in terms of IE, my symptoms, etc. etc. if I do play some small attention to my food choices. The idea of "eat it until you don't want it anymore" hasn't worked for me because my body continues to crave the sugar, and I'm not talking the kind of cravings that can be distracted by a walk or bubble bath! And I do find that I need to eat at semi-regular times instead of waiting to feel hunger, otherwise the insulin/blood sugar reaction makes it that much harder for me to eat intuitively when I do eat next.I've had the best luck when I added stuff versus the diety restricting food. I will add small amounts of protein throughout the day to help balance out the rises in insulin, make a conscious effort to choose more fruits and vegetables. I balance that with IE by not being anal about it..and I find that it's easier for me to overcome the ravenous hunger, to listen when my body is full or almost full, to listen when my body REALLY doesn't want that next bite but my head thinks it does.I've seen my symptoms reduced in the past between medication, physical activity (my choice to do so, not diet/ wl oriented), doing the above, and IE. Sometimes hearing/reading everyone say, "But eat what you want! Don't eat at set mealtimes! No rules! No rules whatsoever for IE!" (or at least that's the impression I get) makes me rebel against having to pay any attention at all to nutrition.Have fallen off the bandwagon in recent months in all aspects and have been trying to remind myself that it IS ok to balance a few loose nutrition rules with IE if that's what my body needs. Because it is what it needs. And I eat more mindfully when I make a few minor adjustments to minimize the insulin response.Thanks for bringing up the PCOS. I'd love to hear from others who are trying to balance PCOS or insulin resistance with intuitive eating.Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Balancing IE and the insulin resistance that comes from PCOS is something I still struggle with. The cravings for sugar/carbs...the excessive hunger that is either caused by the excess insulin or the excess testosterone that comes with PCOS (I've heard both cited as a reason)...both wreak havoc on my desire to listen to my bodyI've found that I do better all around, in terms of IE, my symptoms, etc. etc. if I do play some small attention to my food choices. The idea of "eat it until you don't want it anymore" hasn't worked for me because my body continues to crave the sugar, and I'm not talking the kind of cravings that can be distracted by a walk or bubble bath! And I do find that I need to eat at semi-regular times instead of waiting to feel hunger, otherwise the insulin/blood sugar reaction makes it that much harder for me to eat intuitively when I do eat next.I've had the best luck when I added stuff versus the diety restricting food. I will add small amounts of protein throughout the day to help balance out the rises in insulin, make a conscious effort to choose more fruits and vegetables. I balance that with IE by not being anal about it..and I find that it's easier for me to overcome the ravenous hunger, to listen when my body is full or almost full, to listen when my body REALLY doesn't want that next bite but my head thinks it does.I've seen my symptoms reduced in the past between medication, physical activity (my choice to do so, not diet/ wl oriented), doing the above, and IE. Sometimes hearing/reading everyone say, "But eat what you want! Don't eat at set mealtimes! No rules! No rules whatsoever for IE!" (or at least that's the impression I get) makes me rebel against having to pay any attention at all to nutrition.Have fallen off the bandwagon in recent months in all aspects and have been trying to remind myself that it IS ok to balance a few loose nutrition rules with IE if that's what my body needs. Because it is what it needs. And I eat more mindfully when I make a few minor adjustments to minimize the insulin response.Thanks for bringing up the PCOS. I'd love to hear from others who are trying to balance PCOS or insulin resistance with intuitive eating.Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Balancing IE and the insulin resistance that comes from PCOS is something I still struggle with. The cravings for sugar/carbs...the excessive hunger that is either caused by the excess insulin or the excess testosterone that comes with PCOS (I've heard both cited as a reason)...both wreak havoc on my desire to listen to my bodyI've found that I do better all around, in terms of IE, my symptoms, etc. etc. if I do play some small attention to my food choices. The idea of "eat it until you don't want it anymore" hasn't worked for me because my body continues to crave the sugar, and I'm not talking the kind of cravings that can be distracted by a walk or bubble bath! And I do find that I need to eat at semi-regular times instead of waiting to feel hunger, otherwise the insulin/blood sugar reaction makes it that much harder for me to eat intuitively when I do eat next.I've had the best luck when I added stuff versus the diety restricting food. I will add small amounts of protein throughout the day to help balance out the rises in insulin, make a conscious effort to choose more fruits and vegetables. I balance that with IE by not being anal about it..and I find that it's easier for me to overcome the ravenous hunger, to listen when my body is full or almost full, to listen when my body REALLY doesn't want that next bite but my head thinks it does.I've seen my symptoms reduced in the past between medication, physical activity (my choice to do so, not diet/ wl oriented), doing the above, and IE. Sometimes hearing/reading everyone say, "But eat what you want! Don't eat at set mealtimes! No rules! No rules whatsoever for IE!" (or at least that's the impression I get) makes me rebel against having to pay any attention at all to nutrition.Have fallen off the bandwagon in recent months in all aspects and have been trying to remind myself that it IS ok to balance a few loose nutrition rules with IE if that's what my body needs. Because it is what it needs. And I eat more mindfully when I make a few minor adjustments to minimize the insulin response.Thanks for bringing up the PCOS. I'd love to hear from others who are trying to balance PCOS or insulin resistance with intuitive eating.Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Sara it seems that part of IE's suggesting that we not out of hand attribute (as in label) any food one way or another is so that we don't restrict - unnecessarily - which often triggers diet mentality. And as we all know too well, dieting strictly labels foods 'good' and 'bad'. IE's hope is that instead of obeying EXternal judgements regarding food choices, we return to responding appropriately to our OWN body needs. Yes there can and are 'bad' foods - those that YOUR body does not appreciate or can digest for its own reasons. Having this additional factor in play as you begin following IE suggestions can be harder than most of us face. But I will tell you that I've read enough from other members to know that its quite possible and even helpful for you (medically) in the long run. I hope you will continue to share your IE work with us as that can so help others like I hope you will find here too. Best wishes, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Balancing IE and the insulin resistance that comes from PCOS is something I still struggle with. The cravings for sugar/carbs...the excessive hunger that is either caused by the excess insulin or the excess testosterone that comes with PCOS (I've heard both cited as a reason)...both wreak havoc on my desire to listen to my body > > > I've found that I do better all around, in terms of IE, my symptoms, etc. etc. if I do play some small attention to my food choices. The idea of " eat it until you don't want it anymore " hasn't worked for me because my body continues to crave the sugar, and I'm not talking the kind of cravings that can be distracted by a walk or bubble bath! And I do find that I need to eat at semi-regular times instead of waiting to feel hunger, otherwise the insulin/blood sugar reaction makes it that much harder for me to eat intuitively when I do eat next. > > > I've had the best luck when I added stuff versus the diety restricting food. I will add small amounts of protein throughout the day to help balance out the rises in insulin, make a conscious effort to choose more fruits and vegetables. I balance that with IE by not being anal about it..and I find that it's easier for me to overcome the ravenous hunger, to listen when my body is full or almost full, to listen when my body REALLY doesn't want that next bite but my head thinks it does. > > I've seen my symptoms reduced in the past between medication, physical activity (my choice to do so, not diet/ wl oriented), doing the above, and IE. > > > Sometimes hearing/reading everyone say, " But eat what you want! Don't eat at set mealtimes! No rules! No rules whatsoever for IE! " (or at least that's the impression I get) makes me rebel against having to pay any attention at all to nutrition. > > > Have fallen off the bandwagon in recent months in all aspects and have been trying to remind myself that it IS ok to balance a few loose nutrition rules with IE if that's what my body needs. Because it is what it needs. And I eat more mindfully when I make a few minor adjustments to minimize the insulin response. > > > Thanks for bringing up the PCOS. I'd love to hear from others who are trying to balance PCOS or insulin resistance with intuitive eating. > > Sara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Sara it seems that part of IE's suggesting that we not out of hand attribute (as in label) any food one way or another is so that we don't restrict - unnecessarily - which often triggers diet mentality. And as we all know too well, dieting strictly labels foods 'good' and 'bad'. IE's hope is that instead of obeying EXternal judgements regarding food choices, we return to responding appropriately to our OWN body needs. Yes there can and are 'bad' foods - those that YOUR body does not appreciate or can digest for its own reasons. Having this additional factor in play as you begin following IE suggestions can be harder than most of us face. But I will tell you that I've read enough from other members to know that its quite possible and even helpful for you (medically) in the long run. I hope you will continue to share your IE work with us as that can so help others like I hope you will find here too. Best wishes, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Balancing IE and the insulin resistance that comes from PCOS is something I still struggle with. The cravings for sugar/carbs...the excessive hunger that is either caused by the excess insulin or the excess testosterone that comes with PCOS (I've heard both cited as a reason)...both wreak havoc on my desire to listen to my body > > > I've found that I do better all around, in terms of IE, my symptoms, etc. etc. if I do play some small attention to my food choices. The idea of " eat it until you don't want it anymore " hasn't worked for me because my body continues to crave the sugar, and I'm not talking the kind of cravings that can be distracted by a walk or bubble bath! And I do find that I need to eat at semi-regular times instead of waiting to feel hunger, otherwise the insulin/blood sugar reaction makes it that much harder for me to eat intuitively when I do eat next. > > > I've had the best luck when I added stuff versus the diety restricting food. I will add small amounts of protein throughout the day to help balance out the rises in insulin, make a conscious effort to choose more fruits and vegetables. I balance that with IE by not being anal about it..and I find that it's easier for me to overcome the ravenous hunger, to listen when my body is full or almost full, to listen when my body REALLY doesn't want that next bite but my head thinks it does. > > I've seen my symptoms reduced in the past between medication, physical activity (my choice to do so, not diet/ wl oriented), doing the above, and IE. > > > Sometimes hearing/reading everyone say, " But eat what you want! Don't eat at set mealtimes! No rules! No rules whatsoever for IE! " (or at least that's the impression I get) makes me rebel against having to pay any attention at all to nutrition. > > > Have fallen off the bandwagon in recent months in all aspects and have been trying to remind myself that it IS ok to balance a few loose nutrition rules with IE if that's what my body needs. Because it is what it needs. And I eat more mindfully when I make a few minor adjustments to minimize the insulin response. > > > Thanks for bringing up the PCOS. I'd love to hear from others who are trying to balance PCOS or insulin resistance with intuitive eating. > > Sara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Sara it seems that part of IE's suggesting that we not out of hand attribute (as in label) any food one way or another is so that we don't restrict - unnecessarily - which often triggers diet mentality. And as we all know too well, dieting strictly labels foods 'good' and 'bad'. IE's hope is that instead of obeying EXternal judgements regarding food choices, we return to responding appropriately to our OWN body needs. Yes there can and are 'bad' foods - those that YOUR body does not appreciate or can digest for its own reasons. Having this additional factor in play as you begin following IE suggestions can be harder than most of us face. But I will tell you that I've read enough from other members to know that its quite possible and even helpful for you (medically) in the long run. I hope you will continue to share your IE work with us as that can so help others like I hope you will find here too. Best wishes, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Balancing IE and the insulin resistance that comes from PCOS is something I still struggle with. The cravings for sugar/carbs...the excessive hunger that is either caused by the excess insulin or the excess testosterone that comes with PCOS (I've heard both cited as a reason)...both wreak havoc on my desire to listen to my body > > > I've found that I do better all around, in terms of IE, my symptoms, etc. etc. if I do play some small attention to my food choices. The idea of " eat it until you don't want it anymore " hasn't worked for me because my body continues to crave the sugar, and I'm not talking the kind of cravings that can be distracted by a walk or bubble bath! And I do find that I need to eat at semi-regular times instead of waiting to feel hunger, otherwise the insulin/blood sugar reaction makes it that much harder for me to eat intuitively when I do eat next. > > > I've had the best luck when I added stuff versus the diety restricting food. I will add small amounts of protein throughout the day to help balance out the rises in insulin, make a conscious effort to choose more fruits and vegetables. I balance that with IE by not being anal about it..and I find that it's easier for me to overcome the ravenous hunger, to listen when my body is full or almost full, to listen when my body REALLY doesn't want that next bite but my head thinks it does. > > I've seen my symptoms reduced in the past between medication, physical activity (my choice to do so, not diet/ wl oriented), doing the above, and IE. > > > Sometimes hearing/reading everyone say, " But eat what you want! Don't eat at set mealtimes! No rules! No rules whatsoever for IE! " (or at least that's the impression I get) makes me rebel against having to pay any attention at all to nutrition. > > > Have fallen off the bandwagon in recent months in all aspects and have been trying to remind myself that it IS ok to balance a few loose nutrition rules with IE if that's what my body needs. Because it is what it needs. And I eat more mindfully when I make a few minor adjustments to minimize the insulin response. > > > Thanks for bringing up the PCOS. I'd love to hear from others who are trying to balance PCOS or insulin resistance with intuitive eating. > > Sara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Katcha, thanks for the reminder again about food that may not honor my body. Sandy Sara it seems that part of IE's suggesting that we not out of hand attribute (as in label) any food one way or another is so that we don't restrict - unnecessarily - which often triggers diet mentality. And as we all know too well, dieting strictly labels foods 'good' and 'bad'. IE's hope is that instead of obeying EXternal judgements regarding food choices, we return to responding appropriately to our OWN body needs. Yes there can and are 'bad' foods - those that YOUR body does not appreciate or can digest for its own reasons. Having this additional factor in play as you begin following IE suggestions can be harder than most of us face. But I will tell you that I've read enough from other members to know that its quite possible and even helpful for you (medically) in the long run. I hope you will continue to share your IE work with us as that can so help others like I hope you will find here too. Best wishes, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Balancing IE and the insulin resistance that comes from PCOS is something I still struggle with. The cravings for sugar/carbs...the excessive hunger that is either caused by the excess insulin or the excess testosterone that comes with PCOS (I've heard both cited as a reason)...both wreak havoc on my desire to listen to my body > > > I've found that I do better all around, in terms of IE, my symptoms, etc. etc. if I do play some small attention to my food choices. The idea of " eat it until you don't want it anymore " hasn't worked for me because my body continues to crave the sugar, and I'm not talking the kind of cravings that can be distracted by a walk or bubble bath! And I do find that I need to eat at semi-regular times instead of waiting to feel hunger, otherwise the insulin/blood sugar reaction makes it that much harder for me to eat intuitively when I do eat next. > > > I've had the best luck when I added stuff versus the diety restricting food. I will add small amounts of protein throughout the day to help balance out the rises in insulin, make a conscious effort to choose more fruits and vegetables. I balance that with IE by not being anal about it..and I find that it's easier for me to overcome the ravenous hunger, to listen when my body is full or almost full, to listen when my body REALLY doesn't want that next bite but my head thinks it does. > > I've seen my symptoms reduced in the past between medication, physical activity (my choice to do so, not diet/ wl oriented), doing the above, and IE. > > > Sometimes hearing/reading everyone say, " But eat what you want! Don't eat at set mealtimes! No rules! No rules whatsoever for IE! " (or at least that's the impression I get) makes me rebel against having to pay any attention at all to nutrition. > > > Have fallen off the bandwagon in recent months in all aspects and have been trying to remind myself that it IS ok to balance a few loose nutrition rules with IE if that's what my body needs. Because it is what it needs. And I eat more mindfully when I make a few minor adjustments to minimize the insulin response. > > > Thanks for bringing up the PCOS. I'd love to hear from others who are trying to balance PCOS or insulin resistance with intuitive eating. > > Sara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Katcha, my problem is that I label ALL food as good! Yum yum!Thanks for the encouragement.Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Sara now that's a positive attitude :-) Taking that onward with eating for satisfaction and to 'enough' (full but not stuffed!) could be a great next step?!? As you want and can of course. Happy journey-ing Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Katcha, my problem is that I label ALL food as good! Yum yum! > > Thanks for the encouragement. > > Sara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Sara now that's a positive attitude :-) Taking that onward with eating for satisfaction and to 'enough' (full but not stuffed!) could be a great next step?!? As you want and can of course. Happy journey-ing Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Katcha, my problem is that I label ALL food as good! Yum yum! > > Thanks for the encouragement. > > Sara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Sara now that's a positive attitude :-) Taking that onward with eating for satisfaction and to 'enough' (full but not stuffed!) could be a great next step?!? As you want and can of course. Happy journey-ing Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Katcha, my problem is that I label ALL food as good! Yum yum! > > Thanks for the encouragement. > > Sara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Hi ,As Katcha said, I have PCOS, or at least, some elements of it. (It's a tricky diagnosis to make sometimes!)Anyway, yes, I DEFINITELY think IE can help with PCOS. First and foremost, dieting is bad for your health, no matter what your health condition! Going on diets that end up backfiring and causing weight gain only make PCOS (and everything else) worse! i DO believe that you can eat healthfully for PCOS with IE, but maybe not the first day! if you have been restricting your foods because of PCOS or weight concerns, you may be struggling with rebelling. like folks who ask about IE and diabetes, i do believe you have you work through this rebellion. no foods are forbidden with IE, except for those that make you sick (in the short term, not the long term). so if you haven't gone through the state of legalizing food, I would start with this. no one food is going to make a big change in your PCOS. i think Sara brings up a REALLY important point that i feel like i only recently learned... it's easy to miss how SMART it is because of its simplicity! what has worked well for me, is to think about what foods i can ADD to my meals, not to focus on the foods i want to AVOID. i think focusing on what i wanted to avoid put a lot of emphasis on those foods, and gave them a LOT of power. so i decided, for example, to make sure I eat some protein with every meal. i also tried to have some fruit or veg with every meal. i did NOT make any rules about avoiding processed carbs... but i found when i had delicious protein sources and fruit/veg sources, i no longer wanted the processed carbs as frequently. but i still ate them when i wanted to... but gradually the desire dropped off, once i knew i REALLY was allowed to have them whenever i wanted. it was a really cool experience for me! this is my version of what the IE authors call practicing " gentle nutrition. " like another poster, i also had good luck with acupuncture, although in my case i was doing it for fertility reasons. however, i noticed an immediate change in my cycles, which was pretty amazing to me (even prior to trying to get pregnant), since i was a skeptic. so i would check that out. i also decided to take metformin, again for fertility reasons. i guess the other thing i figured out is that this didn't happen overnight, and it's not going to go away overnight, either. it's scary to have any kind of health problem... but fear tactics don't do a good job of managing your life in the long run. so get your head in a good place, even if it means putting your physical health on the back burner for the short term. i feel SO MUCH HEALTHIER, mentally and emotionallly, since starting IE! i think my weight is roughly the same, too (I can't remember exactly what it was when I started IE, but I'm certainly within the same 10 pound range... or least, I was until I got pregnant). learning to accept and love my body has been the biggest GAIN i could imagine! so liberating! best,abby3 days away from her due date!IE since 11/08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Hi ,As Katcha said, I have PCOS, or at least, some elements of it. (It's a tricky diagnosis to make sometimes!)Anyway, yes, I DEFINITELY think IE can help with PCOS. First and foremost, dieting is bad for your health, no matter what your health condition! Going on diets that end up backfiring and causing weight gain only make PCOS (and everything else) worse! i DO believe that you can eat healthfully for PCOS with IE, but maybe not the first day! if you have been restricting your foods because of PCOS or weight concerns, you may be struggling with rebelling. like folks who ask about IE and diabetes, i do believe you have you work through this rebellion. no foods are forbidden with IE, except for those that make you sick (in the short term, not the long term). so if you haven't gone through the state of legalizing food, I would start with this. no one food is going to make a big change in your PCOS. i think Sara brings up a REALLY important point that i feel like i only recently learned... it's easy to miss how SMART it is because of its simplicity! what has worked well for me, is to think about what foods i can ADD to my meals, not to focus on the foods i want to AVOID. i think focusing on what i wanted to avoid put a lot of emphasis on those foods, and gave them a LOT of power. so i decided, for example, to make sure I eat some protein with every meal. i also tried to have some fruit or veg with every meal. i did NOT make any rules about avoiding processed carbs... but i found when i had delicious protein sources and fruit/veg sources, i no longer wanted the processed carbs as frequently. but i still ate them when i wanted to... but gradually the desire dropped off, once i knew i REALLY was allowed to have them whenever i wanted. it was a really cool experience for me! this is my version of what the IE authors call practicing " gentle nutrition. " like another poster, i also had good luck with acupuncture, although in my case i was doing it for fertility reasons. however, i noticed an immediate change in my cycles, which was pretty amazing to me (even prior to trying to get pregnant), since i was a skeptic. so i would check that out. i also decided to take metformin, again for fertility reasons. i guess the other thing i figured out is that this didn't happen overnight, and it's not going to go away overnight, either. it's scary to have any kind of health problem... but fear tactics don't do a good job of managing your life in the long run. so get your head in a good place, even if it means putting your physical health on the back burner for the short term. i feel SO MUCH HEALTHIER, mentally and emotionallly, since starting IE! i think my weight is roughly the same, too (I can't remember exactly what it was when I started IE, but I'm certainly within the same 10 pound range... or least, I was until I got pregnant). learning to accept and love my body has been the biggest GAIN i could imagine! so liberating! best,abby3 days away from her due date!IE since 11/08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Hi ,As Katcha said, I have PCOS, or at least, some elements of it. (It's a tricky diagnosis to make sometimes!)Anyway, yes, I DEFINITELY think IE can help with PCOS. First and foremost, dieting is bad for your health, no matter what your health condition! Going on diets that end up backfiring and causing weight gain only make PCOS (and everything else) worse! i DO believe that you can eat healthfully for PCOS with IE, but maybe not the first day! if you have been restricting your foods because of PCOS or weight concerns, you may be struggling with rebelling. like folks who ask about IE and diabetes, i do believe you have you work through this rebellion. no foods are forbidden with IE, except for those that make you sick (in the short term, not the long term). so if you haven't gone through the state of legalizing food, I would start with this. no one food is going to make a big change in your PCOS. i think Sara brings up a REALLY important point that i feel like i only recently learned... it's easy to miss how SMART it is because of its simplicity! what has worked well for me, is to think about what foods i can ADD to my meals, not to focus on the foods i want to AVOID. i think focusing on what i wanted to avoid put a lot of emphasis on those foods, and gave them a LOT of power. so i decided, for example, to make sure I eat some protein with every meal. i also tried to have some fruit or veg with every meal. i did NOT make any rules about avoiding processed carbs... but i found when i had delicious protein sources and fruit/veg sources, i no longer wanted the processed carbs as frequently. but i still ate them when i wanted to... but gradually the desire dropped off, once i knew i REALLY was allowed to have them whenever i wanted. it was a really cool experience for me! this is my version of what the IE authors call practicing " gentle nutrition. " like another poster, i also had good luck with acupuncture, although in my case i was doing it for fertility reasons. however, i noticed an immediate change in my cycles, which was pretty amazing to me (even prior to trying to get pregnant), since i was a skeptic. so i would check that out. i also decided to take metformin, again for fertility reasons. i guess the other thing i figured out is that this didn't happen overnight, and it's not going to go away overnight, either. it's scary to have any kind of health problem... but fear tactics don't do a good job of managing your life in the long run. so get your head in a good place, even if it means putting your physical health on the back burner for the short term. i feel SO MUCH HEALTHIER, mentally and emotionallly, since starting IE! i think my weight is roughly the same, too (I can't remember exactly what it was when I started IE, but I'm certainly within the same 10 pound range... or least, I was until I got pregnant). learning to accept and love my body has been the biggest GAIN i could imagine! so liberating! best,abby3 days away from her due date!IE since 11/08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Abby, thanks for your wonderful post. It has helped me a lot too, especially to focus on what I can add to my menu. And saying no foods are forbidden except those that make you sick. This does seem like gentle nutrition. I am going to go down this path for a while, focusing on what to add. Sandy Hi ,As Katcha said, I have PCOS, or at least, some elements of it. (It's a tricky diagnosis to make sometimes!)Anyway, yes, I DEFINITELY think IE can help with PCOS. First and foremost, dieting is bad for your health, no matter what your health condition! Going on diets that end up backfiring and causing weight gain only make PCOS (and everything else) worse! i DO believe that you can eat healthfully for PCOS with IE, but maybe not the first day! if you have been restricting your foods because of PCOS or weight concerns, you may be struggling with rebelling. like folks who ask about IE and diabetes, i do believe you have you work through this rebellion. no foods are forbidden with IE, except for those that make you sick (in the short term, not the long term). so if you haven't gone through the state of legalizing food, I would start with this. no one food is going to make a big change in your PCOS. i think Sara brings up a REALLY important point that i feel like i only recently learned... it's easy to miss how SMART it is because of its simplicity! what has worked well for me, is to think about what foods i can ADD to my meals, not to focus on the foods i want to AVOID. i think focusing on what i wanted to avoid put a lot of emphasis on those foods, and gave them a LOT of power. so i decided, for example, to make sure I eat some protein with every meal. i also tried to have some fruit or veg with every meal. i did NOT make any rules about avoiding processed carbs... but i found when i had delicious protein sources and fruit/veg sources, i no longer wanted the processed carbs as frequently. but i still ate them when i wanted to... but gradually the desire dropped off, once i knew i REALLY was allowed to have them whenever i wanted. it was a really cool experience for me! this is my version of what the IE authors call practicing " gentle nutrition. " like another poster, i also had good luck with acupuncture, although in my case i was doing it for fertility reasons. however, i noticed an immediate change in my cycles, which was pretty amazing to me (even prior to trying to get pregnant), since i was a skeptic. so i would check that out. i also decided to take metformin, again for fertility reasons. i guess the other thing i figured out is that this didn't happen overnight, and it's not going to go away overnight, either. it's scary to have any kind of health problem... but fear tactics don't do a good job of managing your life in the long run. so get your head in a good place, even if it means putting your physical health on the back burner for the short term. i feel SO MUCH HEALTHIER, mentally and emotionallly, since starting IE! i think my weight is roughly the same, too (I can't remember exactly what it was when I started IE, but I'm certainly within the same 10 pound range... or least, I was until I got pregnant). learning to accept and love my body has been the biggest GAIN i could imagine! so liberating! best,abby3 days away from her due date!IE since 11/08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Good luck!!!let us know how it goes.best,abby Abby, thanks for your wonderful post. It has helped me a lot too, especially to focus on what I can add to my menu. And saying no foods are forbidden except those that make you sick. This does seem like gentle nutrition. I am going to go down this path for a while, focusing on what to add. Sandy Hi ,As Katcha said, I have PCOS, or at least, some elements of it. (It's a tricky diagnosis to make sometimes!)Anyway, yes, I DEFINITELY think IE can help with PCOS. First and foremost, dieting is bad for your health, no matter what your health condition! Going on diets that end up backfiring and causing weight gain only make PCOS (and everything else) worse! i DO believe that you can eat healthfully for PCOS with IE, but maybe not the first day! if you have been restricting your foods because of PCOS or weight concerns, you may be struggling with rebelling. like folks who ask about IE and diabetes, i do believe you have you work through this rebellion. no foods are forbidden with IE, except for those that make you sick (in the short term, not the long term). so if you haven't gone through the state of legalizing food, I would start with this. no one food is going to make a big change in your PCOS. i think Sara brings up a REALLY important point that i feel like i only recently learned... it's easy to miss how SMART it is because of its simplicity! what has worked well for me, is to think about what foods i can ADD to my meals, not to focus on the foods i want to AVOID. i think focusing on what i wanted to avoid put a lot of emphasis on those foods, and gave them a LOT of power. so i decided, for example, to make sure I eat some protein with every meal. i also tried to have some fruit or veg with every meal. i did NOT make any rules about avoiding processed carbs... but i found when i had delicious protein sources and fruit/veg sources, i no longer wanted the processed carbs as frequently. but i still ate them when i wanted to... but gradually the desire dropped off, once i knew i REALLY was allowed to have them whenever i wanted. it was a really cool experience for me! this is my version of what the IE authors call practicing " gentle nutrition. " like another poster, i also had good luck with acupuncture, although in my case i was doing it for fertility reasons. however, i noticed an immediate change in my cycles, which was pretty amazing to me (even prior to trying to get pregnant), since i was a skeptic. so i would check that out. i also decided to take metformin, again for fertility reasons. i guess the other thing i figured out is that this didn't happen overnight, and it's not going to go away overnight, either. it's scary to have any kind of health problem... but fear tactics don't do a good job of managing your life in the long run. so get your head in a good place, even if it means putting your physical health on the back burner for the short term. i feel SO MUCH HEALTHIER, mentally and emotionallly, since starting IE! i think my weight is roughly the same, too (I can't remember exactly what it was when I started IE, but I'm certainly within the same 10 pound range... or least, I was until I got pregnant). learning to accept and love my body has been the biggest GAIN i could imagine! so liberating! best,abby3 days away from her due date!IE since 11/08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Good luck!!!let us know how it goes.best,abby Abby, thanks for your wonderful post. It has helped me a lot too, especially to focus on what I can add to my menu. And saying no foods are forbidden except those that make you sick. This does seem like gentle nutrition. I am going to go down this path for a while, focusing on what to add. Sandy Hi ,As Katcha said, I have PCOS, or at least, some elements of it. (It's a tricky diagnosis to make sometimes!)Anyway, yes, I DEFINITELY think IE can help with PCOS. First and foremost, dieting is bad for your health, no matter what your health condition! Going on diets that end up backfiring and causing weight gain only make PCOS (and everything else) worse! i DO believe that you can eat healthfully for PCOS with IE, but maybe not the first day! if you have been restricting your foods because of PCOS or weight concerns, you may be struggling with rebelling. like folks who ask about IE and diabetes, i do believe you have you work through this rebellion. no foods are forbidden with IE, except for those that make you sick (in the short term, not the long term). so if you haven't gone through the state of legalizing food, I would start with this. no one food is going to make a big change in your PCOS. i think Sara brings up a REALLY important point that i feel like i only recently learned... it's easy to miss how SMART it is because of its simplicity! what has worked well for me, is to think about what foods i can ADD to my meals, not to focus on the foods i want to AVOID. i think focusing on what i wanted to avoid put a lot of emphasis on those foods, and gave them a LOT of power. so i decided, for example, to make sure I eat some protein with every meal. i also tried to have some fruit or veg with every meal. i did NOT make any rules about avoiding processed carbs... but i found when i had delicious protein sources and fruit/veg sources, i no longer wanted the processed carbs as frequently. but i still ate them when i wanted to... but gradually the desire dropped off, once i knew i REALLY was allowed to have them whenever i wanted. it was a really cool experience for me! this is my version of what the IE authors call practicing " gentle nutrition. " like another poster, i also had good luck with acupuncture, although in my case i was doing it for fertility reasons. however, i noticed an immediate change in my cycles, which was pretty amazing to me (even prior to trying to get pregnant), since i was a skeptic. so i would check that out. i also decided to take metformin, again for fertility reasons. i guess the other thing i figured out is that this didn't happen overnight, and it's not going to go away overnight, either. it's scary to have any kind of health problem... but fear tactics don't do a good job of managing your life in the long run. so get your head in a good place, even if it means putting your physical health on the back burner for the short term. i feel SO MUCH HEALTHIER, mentally and emotionallly, since starting IE! i think my weight is roughly the same, too (I can't remember exactly what it was when I started IE, but I'm certainly within the same 10 pound range... or least, I was until I got pregnant). learning to accept and love my body has been the biggest GAIN i could imagine! so liberating! best,abby3 days away from her due date!IE since 11/08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Good luck!!!let us know how it goes.best,abby Abby, thanks for your wonderful post. It has helped me a lot too, especially to focus on what I can add to my menu. And saying no foods are forbidden except those that make you sick. This does seem like gentle nutrition. I am going to go down this path for a while, focusing on what to add. Sandy Hi ,As Katcha said, I have PCOS, or at least, some elements of it. (It's a tricky diagnosis to make sometimes!)Anyway, yes, I DEFINITELY think IE can help with PCOS. First and foremost, dieting is bad for your health, no matter what your health condition! Going on diets that end up backfiring and causing weight gain only make PCOS (and everything else) worse! i DO believe that you can eat healthfully for PCOS with IE, but maybe not the first day! if you have been restricting your foods because of PCOS or weight concerns, you may be struggling with rebelling. like folks who ask about IE and diabetes, i do believe you have you work through this rebellion. no foods are forbidden with IE, except for those that make you sick (in the short term, not the long term). so if you haven't gone through the state of legalizing food, I would start with this. no one food is going to make a big change in your PCOS. i think Sara brings up a REALLY important point that i feel like i only recently learned... it's easy to miss how SMART it is because of its simplicity! what has worked well for me, is to think about what foods i can ADD to my meals, not to focus on the foods i want to AVOID. i think focusing on what i wanted to avoid put a lot of emphasis on those foods, and gave them a LOT of power. so i decided, for example, to make sure I eat some protein with every meal. i also tried to have some fruit or veg with every meal. i did NOT make any rules about avoiding processed carbs... but i found when i had delicious protein sources and fruit/veg sources, i no longer wanted the processed carbs as frequently. but i still ate them when i wanted to... but gradually the desire dropped off, once i knew i REALLY was allowed to have them whenever i wanted. it was a really cool experience for me! this is my version of what the IE authors call practicing " gentle nutrition. " like another poster, i also had good luck with acupuncture, although in my case i was doing it for fertility reasons. however, i noticed an immediate change in my cycles, which was pretty amazing to me (even prior to trying to get pregnant), since i was a skeptic. so i would check that out. i also decided to take metformin, again for fertility reasons. i guess the other thing i figured out is that this didn't happen overnight, and it's not going to go away overnight, either. it's scary to have any kind of health problem... but fear tactics don't do a good job of managing your life in the long run. so get your head in a good place, even if it means putting your physical health on the back burner for the short term. i feel SO MUCH HEALTHIER, mentally and emotionallly, since starting IE! i think my weight is roughly the same, too (I can't remember exactly what it was when I started IE, but I'm certainly within the same 10 pound range... or least, I was until I got pregnant). learning to accept and love my body has been the biggest GAIN i could imagine! so liberating! best,abby3 days away from her due date!IE since 11/08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Abby, I will stay in touch. Sandy Good luck!!!let us know how it goes.best,abby Abby, thanks for your wonderful post. It has helped me a lot too, especially to focus on what I can add to my menu. And saying no foods are forbidden except those that make you sick. This does seem like gentle nutrition. I am going to go down this path for a while, focusing on what to add. Sandy Hi ,As Katcha said, I have PCOS, or at least, some elements of it. (It's a tricky diagnosis to make sometimes!)Anyway, yes, I DEFINITELY think IE can help with PCOS. First and foremost, dieting is bad for your health, no matter what your health condition! Going on diets that end up backfiring and causing weight gain only make PCOS (and everything else) worse! i DO believe that you can eat healthfully for PCOS with IE, but maybe not the first day! if you have been restricting your foods because of PCOS or weight concerns, you may be struggling with rebelling. like folks who ask about IE and diabetes, i do believe you have you work through this rebellion. no foods are forbidden with IE, except for those that make you sick (in the short term, not the long term). so if you haven't gone through the state of legalizing food, I would start with this. no one food is going to make a big change in your PCOS. i think Sara brings up a REALLY important point that i feel like i only recently learned... it's easy to miss how SMART it is because of its simplicity! what has worked well for me, is to think about what foods i can ADD to my meals, not to focus on the foods i want to AVOID. i think focusing on what i wanted to avoid put a lot of emphasis on those foods, and gave them a LOT of power. so i decided, for example, to make sure I eat some protein with every meal. i also tried to have some fruit or veg with every meal. i did NOT make any rules about avoiding processed carbs... but i found when i had delicious protein sources and fruit/veg sources, i no longer wanted the processed carbs as frequently. but i still ate them when i wanted to... but gradually the desire dropped off, once i knew i REALLY was allowed to have them whenever i wanted. it was a really cool experience for me! this is my version of what the IE authors call practicing " gentle nutrition. " like another poster, i also had good luck with acupuncture, although in my case i was doing it for fertility reasons. however, i noticed an immediate change in my cycles, which was pretty amazing to me (even prior to trying to get pregnant), since i was a skeptic. so i would check that out. i also decided to take metformin, again for fertility reasons. i guess the other thing i figured out is that this didn't happen overnight, and it's not going to go away overnight, either. it's scary to have any kind of health problem... but fear tactics don't do a good job of managing your life in the long run. so get your head in a good place, even if it means putting your physical health on the back burner for the short term. i feel SO MUCH HEALTHIER, mentally and emotionallly, since starting IE! i think my weight is roughly the same, too (I can't remember exactly what it was when I started IE, but I'm certainly within the same 10 pound range... or least, I was until I got pregnant). learning to accept and love my body has been the biggest GAIN i could imagine! so liberating! best,abby3 days away from her due date!IE since 11/08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Commenting on this, I used to feel that all food was 'good,' meaning that if it appears to be food, it is to be consumed (by me). Lately I have come to understand that I really do like some tastes better than others. And some foods that I thought were delicious are no longer so wonderful to me. Because some cooks and recipes are better than others. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 2:40 PMSubject: Re: IE and PCOS Sara now that's a positive attitude :-) Taking that onward with eating for satisfaction and to 'enough' (full but not stuffed!) could be a great next step?!? As you want and can of course. Happy journey-ing Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Katcha, my problem is that I label ALL food as good! Yum yum! > > Thanks for the encouragement. > > Sara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Commenting on this, I used to feel that all food was 'good,' meaning that if it appears to be food, it is to be consumed (by me). Lately I have come to understand that I really do like some tastes better than others. And some foods that I thought were delicious are no longer so wonderful to me. Because some cooks and recipes are better than others. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 2:40 PMSubject: Re: IE and PCOS Sara now that's a positive attitude :-) Taking that onward with eating for satisfaction and to 'enough' (full but not stuffed!) could be a great next step?!? As you want and can of course. Happy journey-ing Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Katcha, my problem is that I label ALL food as good! Yum yum! > > Thanks for the encouragement. > > Sara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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