Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Those with diabetic concerns may want to use the Search option at this group site to read previous posts by others who have discussed this health concern in conjunction with IE. There have been quite a bit of discussion before and it wouldn't hurt to 're-post' good feedback that already exists ;-) Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Sara, > Thanks for your thoughts about insulin resistance. I have Type II diabetes > and I'm trying to balance IE and keeping blood sugar in balance. I know it > does not serve me well to restrict sweets, nor is it necessary. I'm working > at enjoying everything I eat while being mindful about what I eat. > > Portion control is sometimes a dirty word for ex-dieters, but I'm trying to > change my mindset about portions so I actually desire smaller portions. > > I'd love thoughts on this from others who struggle with health issues. It > does change the equation, but I still feel like eating intuitively is a > better option than a dieting, on-off mindset. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 , maybe the portion control issue is in learning full and hungry cues. Eating when you are hungry and stopping when you are full. It's not easy. Something to relearn especially after diets. Sandy Sara,Thanks for your thoughts about insulin resistance. I have Type II diabetes and I'm trying to balance IE and keeping blood sugar in balance. I know it does not serve me well to restrict sweets, nor is it necessary. I'm working at enjoying everything I eat while being mindful about what I eat. Portion control is sometimes a dirty word for ex-dieters, but I'm trying to change my mindset about portions so I actually desire smaller portions. I'd love thoughts on this from others who struggle with health issues. It does change the equation, but I still feel like eating intuitively is a better option than a dieting, on-off mindset. Balancing IE and the insulin resistance that comes from PCOS is something I still struggle with. The cravings for sugar/carbs...the excessive hunger that is either caused by the excess insulin or the excess testosterone that comes with PCOS (I've heard both cited as a reason)...both wreak havoc on my desire to listen to my body I've found that I do better all around, in terms of IE, my symptoms, etc. etc. if I do play some small attention to my food choices. The idea of " eat it until you don't want it anymore " hasn't worked for me because my body continues to crave the sugar, and I'm not talking the kind of cravings that can be distracted by a walk or bubble bath! And I do find that I need to eat at semi-regular times instead of waiting to feel hunger, otherwise the insulin/blood sugar reaction makes it that much harder for me to eat intuitively when I do eat next.I've had the best luck when I added stuff versus the diety restricting food. I will add small amounts of protein throughout the day to help balance out the rises in insulin, make a conscious effort to choose more fruits and vegetables. I balance that with IE by not being anal about it..and I find that it's easier for me to overcome the ravenous hunger, to listen when my body is full or almost full, to listen when my body REALLY doesn't want that next bite but my head thinks it does. I've seen my symptoms reduced in the past between medication, physical activity (my choice to do so, not diet/ wl oriented), doing the above, and IE. Sometimes hearing/reading everyone say, " But eat what you want! Don't eat at set mealtimes! No rules! No rules whatsoever for IE! " (or at least that's the impression I get) makes me rebel against having to pay any attention at all to nutrition.Have fallen off the bandwagon in recent months in all aspects and have been trying to remind myself that it IS ok to balance a few loose nutrition rules with IE if that's what my body needs. Because it is what it needs. And I eat more mindfully when I make a few minor adjustments to minimize the insulin response. Thanks for bringing up the PCOS. I'd love to hear from others who are trying to balance PCOS or insulin resistance with intuitive eating.Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 , maybe the portion control issue is in learning full and hungry cues. Eating when you are hungry and stopping when you are full. It's not easy. Something to relearn especially after diets. Sandy Sara,Thanks for your thoughts about insulin resistance. I have Type II diabetes and I'm trying to balance IE and keeping blood sugar in balance. I know it does not serve me well to restrict sweets, nor is it necessary. I'm working at enjoying everything I eat while being mindful about what I eat. Portion control is sometimes a dirty word for ex-dieters, but I'm trying to change my mindset about portions so I actually desire smaller portions. I'd love thoughts on this from others who struggle with health issues. It does change the equation, but I still feel like eating intuitively is a better option than a dieting, on-off mindset. Balancing IE and the insulin resistance that comes from PCOS is something I still struggle with. The cravings for sugar/carbs...the excessive hunger that is either caused by the excess insulin or the excess testosterone that comes with PCOS (I've heard both cited as a reason)...both wreak havoc on my desire to listen to my body I've found that I do better all around, in terms of IE, my symptoms, etc. etc. if I do play some small attention to my food choices. The idea of " eat it until you don't want it anymore " hasn't worked for me because my body continues to crave the sugar, and I'm not talking the kind of cravings that can be distracted by a walk or bubble bath! And I do find that I need to eat at semi-regular times instead of waiting to feel hunger, otherwise the insulin/blood sugar reaction makes it that much harder for me to eat intuitively when I do eat next.I've had the best luck when I added stuff versus the diety restricting food. I will add small amounts of protein throughout the day to help balance out the rises in insulin, make a conscious effort to choose more fruits and vegetables. I balance that with IE by not being anal about it..and I find that it's easier for me to overcome the ravenous hunger, to listen when my body is full or almost full, to listen when my body REALLY doesn't want that next bite but my head thinks it does. I've seen my symptoms reduced in the past between medication, physical activity (my choice to do so, not diet/ wl oriented), doing the above, and IE. Sometimes hearing/reading everyone say, " But eat what you want! Don't eat at set mealtimes! No rules! No rules whatsoever for IE! " (or at least that's the impression I get) makes me rebel against having to pay any attention at all to nutrition.Have fallen off the bandwagon in recent months in all aspects and have been trying to remind myself that it IS ok to balance a few loose nutrition rules with IE if that's what my body needs. Because it is what it needs. And I eat more mindfully when I make a few minor adjustments to minimize the insulin response. Thanks for bringing up the PCOS. I'd love to hear from others who are trying to balance PCOS or insulin resistance with intuitive eating.Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 , maybe the portion control issue is in learning full and hungry cues. Eating when you are hungry and stopping when you are full. It's not easy. Something to relearn especially after diets. Sandy Sara,Thanks for your thoughts about insulin resistance. I have Type II diabetes and I'm trying to balance IE and keeping blood sugar in balance. I know it does not serve me well to restrict sweets, nor is it necessary. I'm working at enjoying everything I eat while being mindful about what I eat. Portion control is sometimes a dirty word for ex-dieters, but I'm trying to change my mindset about portions so I actually desire smaller portions. I'd love thoughts on this from others who struggle with health issues. It does change the equation, but I still feel like eating intuitively is a better option than a dieting, on-off mindset. Balancing IE and the insulin resistance that comes from PCOS is something I still struggle with. The cravings for sugar/carbs...the excessive hunger that is either caused by the excess insulin or the excess testosterone that comes with PCOS (I've heard both cited as a reason)...both wreak havoc on my desire to listen to my body I've found that I do better all around, in terms of IE, my symptoms, etc. etc. if I do play some small attention to my food choices. The idea of " eat it until you don't want it anymore " hasn't worked for me because my body continues to crave the sugar, and I'm not talking the kind of cravings that can be distracted by a walk or bubble bath! And I do find that I need to eat at semi-regular times instead of waiting to feel hunger, otherwise the insulin/blood sugar reaction makes it that much harder for me to eat intuitively when I do eat next.I've had the best luck when I added stuff versus the diety restricting food. I will add small amounts of protein throughout the day to help balance out the rises in insulin, make a conscious effort to choose more fruits and vegetables. I balance that with IE by not being anal about it..and I find that it's easier for me to overcome the ravenous hunger, to listen when my body is full or almost full, to listen when my body REALLY doesn't want that next bite but my head thinks it does. I've seen my symptoms reduced in the past between medication, physical activity (my choice to do so, not diet/ wl oriented), doing the above, and IE. Sometimes hearing/reading everyone say, " But eat what you want! Don't eat at set mealtimes! No rules! No rules whatsoever for IE! " (or at least that's the impression I get) makes me rebel against having to pay any attention at all to nutrition.Have fallen off the bandwagon in recent months in all aspects and have been trying to remind myself that it IS ok to balance a few loose nutrition rules with IE if that's what my body needs. Because it is what it needs. And I eat more mindfully when I make a few minor adjustments to minimize the insulin response. Thanks for bringing up the PCOS. I'd love to hear from others who are trying to balance PCOS or insulin resistance with intuitive eating.Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Hi Sandy,I like that thought...hunger cues vs portion control. For me, portion control indicates that I will only put so much on my plate, that I will only allow myself so much even if I am still hungry. Very diety. However, with hunger cues, I choose to stop eating because I know I am full, even if I put a huge amount on my plate, and I don't want . Seems to me it's how you look at it.Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Hi Sandy,I like that thought...hunger cues vs portion control. For me, portion control indicates that I will only put so much on my plate, that I will only allow myself so much even if I am still hungry. Very diety. However, with hunger cues, I choose to stop eating because I know I am full, even if I put a huge amount on my plate, and I don't want . Seems to me it's how you look at it.Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Sara, Very good point and I have often put " too " much on my plate and not finished it. I also use a small plate and bring it to the table with the food on it. I do not bring the bowls of food to the table where I could go back for more real easily. Yes I think of " portion control " as diety. Sandy Hi Sandy,I like that thought...hunger cues vs portion control. For me, portion control indicates that I will only put so much on my plate, that I will only allow myself so much even if I am still hungry. Very diety. However, with hunger cues, I choose to stop eating because I know I am full, even if I put a huge amount on my plate, and I don't want . Seems to me it's how you look at it. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Sara, Very good point and I have often put " too " much on my plate and not finished it. I also use a small plate and bring it to the table with the food on it. I do not bring the bowls of food to the table where I could go back for more real easily. Yes I think of " portion control " as diety. Sandy Hi Sandy,I like that thought...hunger cues vs portion control. For me, portion control indicates that I will only put so much on my plate, that I will only allow myself so much even if I am still hungry. Very diety. However, with hunger cues, I choose to stop eating because I know I am full, even if I put a huge amount on my plate, and I don't want . Seems to me it's how you look at it. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 , I've always hated the restrictiveness of " portion control. " I too, have Type II Diabetes. What has shocked me about practicing IE is that when I really pay attention to my hunger signals and when they disappear (which is a pain, because it means I HAVE to not read while eating, and apparently can't be talking either, drat it) the amounts I consume are remarkably small compared to what I was used to eating. I never could wrap my mind around the idea that I only had room for a fist-size amount of food in my stomach without stretching it out. Now I'm seeing that must be true. When I eat much more, I feel overfull a few minutes later and am aware of my stomach feeling heavy and uncomfortable for more than an hour afterward. I'm beginning to put really tiny portions on my plate and take seconds if I'm still hungry. I would never have believed I'd do that voluntarily, but it's what feels right to take care of myself now, not restrict myself. Jane > > > ** > > > > > > Balancing IE and the insulin resistance that comes from PCOS is something I > > still struggle with. The cravings for sugar/carbs...the excessive hunger > > that is either caused by the excess insulin or the excess testosterone that > > comes with PCOS (I've heard both cited as a reason)...both wreak havoc on my > > desire to listen to my body > > > > I've found that I do better all around, in terms of IE, my symptoms, etc. > > etc. if I do play some small attention to my food choices. The idea of " eat > > it until you don't want it anymore " hasn't worked for me because my body > > continues to crave the sugar, and I'm not talking the kind of cravings that > > can be distracted by a walk or bubble bath! And I do find that I need to > > eat at semi-regular times instead of waiting to feel hunger, otherwise the > > insulin/blood sugar reaction makes it that much harder for me to eat > > intuitively when I do eat next. > > > > I've had the best luck when I added stuff versus the diety restricting > > food. I will add small amounts of protein throughout the day to help > > balance out the rises in insulin, make a conscious effort to choose more > > fruits and vegetables. I balance that with IE by not being anal about > > it..and I find that it's easier for me to overcome the ravenous hunger, to > > listen when my body is full or almost full, to listen when my body REALLY > > doesn't want that next bite but my head thinks it does. > > > > I've seen my symptoms reduced in the past between medication, physical > > activity (my choice to do so, not diet/ wl oriented), doing the above, and > > IE. > > > > Sometimes hearing/reading everyone say, " But eat what you want! Don't eat > > at set mealtimes! No rules! No rules whatsoever for IE! " (or at least > > that's the impression I get) makes me rebel against having to pay any > > attention at all to nutrition. > > > > Have fallen off the bandwagon in recent months in all aspects and have been > > trying to remind myself that it IS ok to balance a few loose nutrition rules > > with IE if that's what my body needs. Because it is what it needs. And I > > eat more mindfully when I make a few minor adjustments to minimize the > > insulin response. > > > > Thanks for bringing up the PCOS. I'd love to hear from others who are > > trying to balance PCOS or insulin resistance with intuitive eating. > > > > Sara > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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