Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 I'm finding the coaching to be spot on for me. Hopefully you'll find a therapist that is truly educated in IE; I tried several times who claimed they were but didn't have a clue. I feel so on task right now, it's a little heady... over eat or battle over crepes, it all looks totally different now. I'm finally on track after floundering for years and years with my food/diet issues and the fear that I was addicted and doomed for life. Sandarah > > > Katcha, I really think this kind of a problem is caused by the insurance > ndustry, not by the medical profession. Who decides what is covered and what > he criteria for coverage is? I think my doctor would have gladly sent me to a > utritionist if she could have. And of course I always have the option of > aying for these services myself, though I'm not really in that position > inancially. But I am considering taking her up on the therapist for weight > oncerns, because I think my body image and willingness to let my size keep me > rom pursuing things I really would like to do with my life, could benefit from > ounseling. And lord knows my old obsessive patterns about food are probably > omething we could work with in therapy, though I am in a good IE space right > ow and am not acting on any compulsions most of the time, I'm sure there's > lenty in my head she can work on. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and the > herapist may be familiar with IE. Wouldn't that be nice? Any > way, I'm still in the thought process part of deciding if I should go or not. > > Sunny > > > ----------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 I'm finding the coaching to be spot on for me. Hopefully you'll find a therapist that is truly educated in IE; I tried several times who claimed they were but didn't have a clue. I feel so on task right now, it's a little heady... over eat or battle over crepes, it all looks totally different now. I'm finally on track after floundering for years and years with my food/diet issues and the fear that I was addicted and doomed for life. Sandarah > > > Katcha, I really think this kind of a problem is caused by the insurance > ndustry, not by the medical profession. Who decides what is covered and what > he criteria for coverage is? I think my doctor would have gladly sent me to a > utritionist if she could have. And of course I always have the option of > aying for these services myself, though I'm not really in that position > inancially. But I am considering taking her up on the therapist for weight > oncerns, because I think my body image and willingness to let my size keep me > rom pursuing things I really would like to do with my life, could benefit from > ounseling. And lord knows my old obsessive patterns about food are probably > omething we could work with in therapy, though I am in a good IE space right > ow and am not acting on any compulsions most of the time, I'm sure there's > lenty in my head she can work on. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and the > herapist may be familiar with IE. Wouldn't that be nice? Any > way, I'm still in the thought process part of deciding if I should go or not. > > Sunny > > > ----------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 I'm finding the coaching to be spot on for me. Hopefully you'll find a therapist that is truly educated in IE; I tried several times who claimed they were but didn't have a clue. I feel so on task right now, it's a little heady... over eat or battle over crepes, it all looks totally different now. I'm finally on track after floundering for years and years with my food/diet issues and the fear that I was addicted and doomed for life. Sandarah > > > Katcha, I really think this kind of a problem is caused by the insurance > ndustry, not by the medical profession. Who decides what is covered and what > he criteria for coverage is? I think my doctor would have gladly sent me to a > utritionist if she could have. And of course I always have the option of > aying for these services myself, though I'm not really in that position > inancially. But I am considering taking her up on the therapist for weight > oncerns, because I think my body image and willingness to let my size keep me > rom pursuing things I really would like to do with my life, could benefit from > ounseling. And lord knows my old obsessive patterns about food are probably > omething we could work with in therapy, though I am in a good IE space right > ow and am not acting on any compulsions most of the time, I'm sure there's > lenty in my head she can work on. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and the > herapist may be familiar with IE. Wouldn't that be nice? Any > way, I'm still in the thought process part of deciding if I should go or not. > > Sunny > > > ----------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Perhaps you could make a single question phone call or personal note (email?) asking into their knowledge or understanding of this concept (yes or no). I can't think of why any professional would charge for such an inquiry. It would be like being charged to ask which school they went to or area of specialty or even calling for setting up an appointment! Katcha > > > Katcha, I really think this kind of a problem is caused by the insurance > ndustry, not by the medical profession. Who decides what is covered and what > he criteria for coverage is? I think my doctor would have gladly sent me to a > utritionist if she could have. And of course I always have the option of > aying for these services myself, though I'm not really in that position > inancially. But I am considering taking her up on the therapist for weight > oncerns, because I think my body image and willingness to let my size keep me > rom pursuing things I really would like to do with my life, could benefit from > ounseling. And lord knows my old obsessive patterns about food are probably > omething we could work with in therapy, though I am in a good IE space right > ow and am not acting on any compulsions most of the time, I'm sure there's > lenty in my head she can work on. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and the > herapist may be familiar with IE. Wouldn't that be nice? Any > way, I'm still in the thought process part of deciding if I should go or not. > > Sunny > > > ----------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Perhaps you could make a single question phone call or personal note (email?) asking into their knowledge or understanding of this concept (yes or no). I can't think of why any professional would charge for such an inquiry. It would be like being charged to ask which school they went to or area of specialty or even calling for setting up an appointment! Katcha > > > Katcha, I really think this kind of a problem is caused by the insurance > ndustry, not by the medical profession. Who decides what is covered and what > he criteria for coverage is? I think my doctor would have gladly sent me to a > utritionist if she could have. And of course I always have the option of > aying for these services myself, though I'm not really in that position > inancially. But I am considering taking her up on the therapist for weight > oncerns, because I think my body image and willingness to let my size keep me > rom pursuing things I really would like to do with my life, could benefit from > ounseling. And lord knows my old obsessive patterns about food are probably > omething we could work with in therapy, though I am in a good IE space right > ow and am not acting on any compulsions most of the time, I'm sure there's > lenty in my head she can work on. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and the > herapist may be familiar with IE. Wouldn't that be nice? Any > way, I'm still in the thought process part of deciding if I should go or not. > > Sunny > > > ----------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Sunny, I don't get this either. This is not to criticize anyone who has made this choice, but surgery of any kind is risky, and to go through all of that, plus recovery time only to gain the weight back is heartbreaking. Are the doctors looking at the long-term success rate of this procedure and using it to inform their patients? Mimi Subject: Re: Re: medication thoughtsTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 1:20 PM Everyone I know who has had any form of Bariatric surgery has either gained a significant amount of weight back over the years or is now beginning to gain it. I'm not sure why it's considered a such an important tool when it doesn't work any better than dieting since it's an extreme form of restriction. The weight gain has become a pretty well documented thing. Every season of the biggest loser seems to have at least one very large person who had the surgery in the past and now weighs 400+ pounds. Makes no sense to me. Sunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Sunny, I don't get this either. This is not to criticize anyone who has made this choice, but surgery of any kind is risky, and to go through all of that, plus recovery time only to gain the weight back is heartbreaking. Are the doctors looking at the long-term success rate of this procedure and using it to inform their patients? Mimi Subject: Re: Re: medication thoughtsTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 1:20 PM Everyone I know who has had any form of Bariatric surgery has either gained a significant amount of weight back over the years or is now beginning to gain it. I'm not sure why it's considered a such an important tool when it doesn't work any better than dieting since it's an extreme form of restriction. The weight gain has become a pretty well documented thing. Every season of the biggest loser seems to have at least one very large person who had the surgery in the past and now weighs 400+ pounds. Makes no sense to me. Sunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Sunny, I don't get this either. This is not to criticize anyone who has made this choice, but surgery of any kind is risky, and to go through all of that, plus recovery time only to gain the weight back is heartbreaking. Are the doctors looking at the long-term success rate of this procedure and using it to inform their patients? Mimi Subject: Re: Re: medication thoughtsTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 1:20 PM Everyone I know who has had any form of Bariatric surgery has either gained a significant amount of weight back over the years or is now beginning to gain it. I'm not sure why it's considered a such an important tool when it doesn't work any better than dieting since it's an extreme form of restriction. The weight gain has become a pretty well documented thing. Every season of the biggest loser seems to have at least one very large person who had the surgery in the past and now weighs 400+ pounds. Makes no sense to me. Sunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 I have no idea what they are doing honestly but the reports are out there to be read about the precentage of patients who have regained now that these surgeries have been popular for a while. Google it and you'll be astonished. I just read one article that said at the 10 year mark only 20% of the patients had kept the weight off. That's not good enough for me to risk it. Sunny Re: Re: medication thoughts To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 1:20 PM Everyone I know who has had any form of Bariatric surgery has either gained a significant amount of weight back over the years or is now beginning to gain it. I'm not sure why it's considered a such an important tool when it doesn't work any better than dieting since it's an extreme form of restriction. The weight gain has become a pretty well documented thing. Every season of the biggest loser seems to have at least one very large person who had the surgery in the past and now weighs 400+ pounds. Makes no sense to me. Sunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 I have no idea what they are doing honestly but the reports are out there to be read about the precentage of patients who have regained now that these surgeries have been popular for a while. Google it and you'll be astonished. I just read one article that said at the 10 year mark only 20% of the patients had kept the weight off. That's not good enough for me to risk it. Sunny Re: Re: medication thoughts To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 1:20 PM Everyone I know who has had any form of Bariatric surgery has either gained a significant amount of weight back over the years or is now beginning to gain it. I'm not sure why it's considered a such an important tool when it doesn't work any better than dieting since it's an extreme form of restriction. The weight gain has become a pretty well documented thing. Every season of the biggest loser seems to have at least one very large person who had the surgery in the past and now weighs 400+ pounds. Makes no sense to me. Sunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 I have no idea what they are doing honestly but the reports are out there to be read about the precentage of patients who have regained now that these surgeries have been popular for a while. Google it and you'll be astonished. I just read one article that said at the 10 year mark only 20% of the patients had kept the weight off. That's not good enough for me to risk it. Sunny Re: Re: medication thoughts To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 1:20 PM Everyone I know who has had any form of Bariatric surgery has either gained a significant amount of weight back over the years or is now beginning to gain it. I'm not sure why it's considered a such an important tool when it doesn't work any better than dieting since it's an extreme form of restriction. The weight gain has become a pretty well documented thing. Every season of the biggest loser seems to have at least one very large person who had the surgery in the past and now weighs 400+ pounds. Makes no sense to me. Sunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 I agree that much of what is promoted is not necessarily beneficial or accurate regarding medication. Although -- there are some times that we need medication. IMHO. Each one must decide for himself what types of medicine he will accept. I have found that many doctors are sincere, their participation as doctors is not based on greed but sincerity. then again, there are others who are greedy. But many doctors are knowledgeable and sincere. Tai To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:34 PMSubject: Re: Re: medication thoughts Agreed, Sandarah. For me it is a slow but enlightening process, one I am enjoying and wouldn't trade right now for anything else. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 12:49 PMSubject: Re: medication thoughts This process, IE, steps outside the box where most therapies and most people live. It's a road less traveled. I've always tended to question the status quo and try new things; probably because so many of the mainstream approaches haven't worked for me. Thankfully, I'm at least smart enough to step back and say, "wow, this really isn't working" after a hundred or so tries. It's taken a long, long time to realize that when something seems funky, or doesn't make sense - it's probably not me that's wrong. My mind works pretty well, my gut feelings don't generally lie to me and there are lots of things in the world that are built on greed and deception with no concern of who is harmed in the process. I think that part of getting it right with IE is shedding illusions about a lot of boxed in thinking. Sandarah> >> > > > Katcha, I really think this kind of a problem is caused by the insurance industry, not by the medical profession. Who decides what is covered and what the criteria for coverage is? I think my doctor would have gladly sent me to a nutritionist if she could have. And of course I always have the option of paying for these services myself, though I'm not really in that position financially. But I am considering taking her up on the therapist for weight concerns, because I think my body image and willingness to let my size keep me from pursuing things I really would like to do with my life, could benefit from counseling. And lord knows my old obsessive patterns about food are probably something we could work with in therapy, though I am in a good IE space right now and am not acting on any compulsions most of the time, I'm sure there's plenty in my head she can work on. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and the therapist may be familiar with IE. Wouldn't that be nice? Anyway, I'm still in the thought process part of deciding if I should go or not. > > > > Sunny> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 I agree that much of what is promoted is not necessarily beneficial or accurate regarding medication. Although -- there are some times that we need medication. IMHO. Each one must decide for himself what types of medicine he will accept. I have found that many doctors are sincere, their participation as doctors is not based on greed but sincerity. then again, there are others who are greedy. But many doctors are knowledgeable and sincere. Tai To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:34 PMSubject: Re: Re: medication thoughts Agreed, Sandarah. For me it is a slow but enlightening process, one I am enjoying and wouldn't trade right now for anything else. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 12:49 PMSubject: Re: medication thoughts This process, IE, steps outside the box where most therapies and most people live. It's a road less traveled. I've always tended to question the status quo and try new things; probably because so many of the mainstream approaches haven't worked for me. Thankfully, I'm at least smart enough to step back and say, "wow, this really isn't working" after a hundred or so tries. It's taken a long, long time to realize that when something seems funky, or doesn't make sense - it's probably not me that's wrong. My mind works pretty well, my gut feelings don't generally lie to me and there are lots of things in the world that are built on greed and deception with no concern of who is harmed in the process. I think that part of getting it right with IE is shedding illusions about a lot of boxed in thinking. Sandarah> >> > > > Katcha, I really think this kind of a problem is caused by the insurance industry, not by the medical profession. Who decides what is covered and what the criteria for coverage is? I think my doctor would have gladly sent me to a nutritionist if she could have. And of course I always have the option of paying for these services myself, though I'm not really in that position financially. But I am considering taking her up on the therapist for weight concerns, because I think my body image and willingness to let my size keep me from pursuing things I really would like to do with my life, could benefit from counseling. And lord knows my old obsessive patterns about food are probably something we could work with in therapy, though I am in a good IE space right now and am not acting on any compulsions most of the time, I'm sure there's plenty in my head she can work on. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and the therapist may be familiar with IE. Wouldn't that be nice? Anyway, I'm still in the thought process part of deciding if I should go or not. > > > > Sunny> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 I agree that much of what is promoted is not necessarily beneficial or accurate regarding medication. Although -- there are some times that we need medication. IMHO. Each one must decide for himself what types of medicine he will accept. I have found that many doctors are sincere, their participation as doctors is not based on greed but sincerity. then again, there are others who are greedy. But many doctors are knowledgeable and sincere. Tai To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:34 PMSubject: Re: Re: medication thoughts Agreed, Sandarah. For me it is a slow but enlightening process, one I am enjoying and wouldn't trade right now for anything else. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 12:49 PMSubject: Re: medication thoughts This process, IE, steps outside the box where most therapies and most people live. It's a road less traveled. I've always tended to question the status quo and try new things; probably because so many of the mainstream approaches haven't worked for me. Thankfully, I'm at least smart enough to step back and say, "wow, this really isn't working" after a hundred or so tries. It's taken a long, long time to realize that when something seems funky, or doesn't make sense - it's probably not me that's wrong. My mind works pretty well, my gut feelings don't generally lie to me and there are lots of things in the world that are built on greed and deception with no concern of who is harmed in the process. I think that part of getting it right with IE is shedding illusions about a lot of boxed in thinking. Sandarah> >> > > > Katcha, I really think this kind of a problem is caused by the insurance industry, not by the medical profession. Who decides what is covered and what the criteria for coverage is? I think my doctor would have gladly sent me to a nutritionist if she could have. And of course I always have the option of paying for these services myself, though I'm not really in that position financially. But I am considering taking her up on the therapist for weight concerns, because I think my body image and willingness to let my size keep me from pursuing things I really would like to do with my life, could benefit from counseling. And lord knows my old obsessive patterns about food are probably something we could work with in therapy, though I am in a good IE space right now and am not acting on any compulsions most of the time, I'm sure there's plenty in my head she can work on. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and the therapist may be familiar with IE. Wouldn't that be nice? Anyway, I'm still in the thought process part of deciding if I should go or not. > > > > Sunny> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Tai, just wanted to tell you about my visit to the liver doctor. I do have the beginning stages of fatty liver with inflammation. Cause: being over weight and having high cholesterol, not from the medications. The treatment is to lose 10% of my weight and take vitamin E. Also it takes a very long time for this to progress and I have the chance to regress it or arrest it. I probably will die of old age before it becomes anything. Well I guess it is good to now and the treatment is simple. I can go back on my meds and shouldn't really have been taken off them, especially the one for triglyceride. Sandy  I agree that much of what is promoted is not necessarily beneficial or accurate regarding medication. Although -- there are some times that we need medication. IMHO. Each one must decide for himself what types of medicine he will accept. I have found that many doctors are sincere, their participation as doctors is not based on greed but sincerity. then again, there are others who are greedy. But many doctors are knowledgeable and sincere. Tai  To: " IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:34 PMSubject: Re: Re: medication thoughts  Agreed, Sandarah. For me it is a slow but enlightening process, one I am enjoying and wouldn't trade right now for anything else. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 12:49 PM Subject: Re: medication thoughts  This process, IE, steps outside the box where most therapies and most people live. It's a road less traveled. I've always tended to question the status quo and try new things; probably because so many of the mainstream approaches haven't worked for me. Thankfully, I'm at least smart enough to step back and say, " wow, this really isn't working " after a hundred or so tries. It's taken a long, long time to realize that when something seems funky, or doesn't make sense - it's probably not me that's wrong. My mind works pretty well, my gut feelings don't generally lie to me and there are lots of things in the world that are built on greed and deception with no concern of who is harmed in the process. I think that part of getting it right with IE is shedding illusions about a lot of boxed in thinking. Sandarah > >> > > > Katcha, I really think this kind of a problem is caused by the insurance industry, not by the medical profession. Who decides what is covered and what the criteria for coverage is? I think my doctor would have gladly sent me to a nutritionist if she could have. And of course I always have the option of paying for these services myself, though I'm not really in that position financially. But I am considering taking her up on the therapist for weight concerns, because I think my body image and willingness to let my size keep me from pursuing things I really would like to do with my life, could benefit from counseling. And lord knows my old obsessive patterns about food are probably something we could work with in therapy, though I am in a good IE space right now and am not acting on any compulsions most of the time, I'm sure there's plenty in my head she can work on. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and the therapist may be familiar with IE. Wouldn't that be nice? Anyway, I'm still in the thought process part of deciding if I should go or not. > > > > Sunny> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Tai, just wanted to tell you about my visit to the liver doctor. I do have the beginning stages of fatty liver with inflammation. Cause: being over weight and having high cholesterol, not from the medications. The treatment is to lose 10% of my weight and take vitamin E. Also it takes a very long time for this to progress and I have the chance to regress it or arrest it. I probably will die of old age before it becomes anything. Well I guess it is good to now and the treatment is simple. I can go back on my meds and shouldn't really have been taken off them, especially the one for triglyceride. Sandy  I agree that much of what is promoted is not necessarily beneficial or accurate regarding medication. Although -- there are some times that we need medication. IMHO. Each one must decide for himself what types of medicine he will accept. I have found that many doctors are sincere, their participation as doctors is not based on greed but sincerity. then again, there are others who are greedy. But many doctors are knowledgeable and sincere. Tai  To: " IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:34 PMSubject: Re: Re: medication thoughts  Agreed, Sandarah. For me it is a slow but enlightening process, one I am enjoying and wouldn't trade right now for anything else. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 12:49 PM Subject: Re: medication thoughts  This process, IE, steps outside the box where most therapies and most people live. It's a road less traveled. I've always tended to question the status quo and try new things; probably because so many of the mainstream approaches haven't worked for me. Thankfully, I'm at least smart enough to step back and say, " wow, this really isn't working " after a hundred or so tries. It's taken a long, long time to realize that when something seems funky, or doesn't make sense - it's probably not me that's wrong. My mind works pretty well, my gut feelings don't generally lie to me and there are lots of things in the world that are built on greed and deception with no concern of who is harmed in the process. I think that part of getting it right with IE is shedding illusions about a lot of boxed in thinking. Sandarah > >> > > > Katcha, I really think this kind of a problem is caused by the insurance industry, not by the medical profession. Who decides what is covered and what the criteria for coverage is? I think my doctor would have gladly sent me to a nutritionist if she could have. And of course I always have the option of paying for these services myself, though I'm not really in that position financially. But I am considering taking her up on the therapist for weight concerns, because I think my body image and willingness to let my size keep me from pursuing things I really would like to do with my life, could benefit from counseling. And lord knows my old obsessive patterns about food are probably something we could work with in therapy, though I am in a good IE space right now and am not acting on any compulsions most of the time, I'm sure there's plenty in my head she can work on. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and the therapist may be familiar with IE. Wouldn't that be nice? Anyway, I'm still in the thought process part of deciding if I should go or not. > > > > Sunny> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Tai, just wanted to tell you about my visit to the liver doctor. I do have the beginning stages of fatty liver with inflammation. Cause: being over weight and having high cholesterol, not from the medications. The treatment is to lose 10% of my weight and take vitamin E. Also it takes a very long time for this to progress and I have the chance to regress it or arrest it. I probably will die of old age before it becomes anything. Well I guess it is good to now and the treatment is simple. I can go back on my meds and shouldn't really have been taken off them, especially the one for triglyceride. Sandy  I agree that much of what is promoted is not necessarily beneficial or accurate regarding medication. Although -- there are some times that we need medication. IMHO. Each one must decide for himself what types of medicine he will accept. I have found that many doctors are sincere, their participation as doctors is not based on greed but sincerity. then again, there are others who are greedy. But many doctors are knowledgeable and sincere. Tai  To: " IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:34 PMSubject: Re: Re: medication thoughts  Agreed, Sandarah. For me it is a slow but enlightening process, one I am enjoying and wouldn't trade right now for anything else. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 12:49 PM Subject: Re: medication thoughts  This process, IE, steps outside the box where most therapies and most people live. It's a road less traveled. I've always tended to question the status quo and try new things; probably because so many of the mainstream approaches haven't worked for me. Thankfully, I'm at least smart enough to step back and say, " wow, this really isn't working " after a hundred or so tries. It's taken a long, long time to realize that when something seems funky, or doesn't make sense - it's probably not me that's wrong. My mind works pretty well, my gut feelings don't generally lie to me and there are lots of things in the world that are built on greed and deception with no concern of who is harmed in the process. I think that part of getting it right with IE is shedding illusions about a lot of boxed in thinking. Sandarah > >> > > > Katcha, I really think this kind of a problem is caused by the insurance industry, not by the medical profession. Who decides what is covered and what the criteria for coverage is? I think my doctor would have gladly sent me to a nutritionist if she could have. And of course I always have the option of paying for these services myself, though I'm not really in that position financially. But I am considering taking her up on the therapist for weight concerns, because I think my body image and willingness to let my size keep me from pursuing things I really would like to do with my life, could benefit from counseling. And lord knows my old obsessive patterns about food are probably something we could work with in therapy, though I am in a good IE space right now and am not acting on any compulsions most of the time, I'm sure there's plenty in my head she can work on. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and the therapist may be familiar with IE. Wouldn't that be nice? Anyway, I'm still in the thought process part of deciding if I should go or not. > > > > Sunny> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 That is good news, Sandy! and you have a good attitude towards it. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, September 2, 2011 9:02 PMSubject: Re: Re: medication thoughts Tai, just wanted to tell you about my visit to the liver doctor. I do have the beginning stages of fatty liver with inflammation. Cause: being over weight and having high cholesterol, not from the medications. The treatment is to lose 10% of my weight and take vitamin E. Also it takes a very long time for this to progress and I have the chance to regress it or arrest it. I probably will die of old age before it becomes anything. Well I guess it is good to now and the treatment is simple. I can go back on my meds and shouldn't really have been taken off them, especially the one for triglyceride. Sandy I agree that much of what is promoted is not necessarily beneficial or accurate regarding medication. Although -- there are some times that we need medication. IMHO. Each one must decide for himself what types of medicine he will accept. I have found that many doctors are sincere, their participation as doctors is not based on greed but sincerity. then again, there are others who are greedy. But many doctors are knowledgeable and sincere. Tai To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:34 PMSubject: Re: Re: medication thoughts Agreed, Sandarah. For me it is a slow but enlightening process, one I am enjoying and wouldn't trade right now for anything else. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 12:49 PMSubject: Re: medication thoughts This process, IE, steps outside the box where most therapies and most people live. It's a road less traveled. I've always tended to question the status quo and try new things; probably because so many of the mainstream approaches haven't worked for me. Thankfully, I'm at least smart enough to step back and say, "wow, this really isn't working" after a hundred or so tries. It's taken a long, long time to realize that when something seems funky, or doesn't make sense - it's probably not me that's wrong. My mind works pretty well, my gut feelings don't generally lie to me and there are lots of things in the world that are built on greed and deception with no concern of who is harmed in the process. I think that part of getting it right with IE is shedding illusions about a lot of boxed in thinking. Sandarah> >> > > > Katcha, I really think this kind of a problem is caused by the insurance industry, not by the medical profession. Who decides what is covered and what the criteria for coverage is? I think my doctor would have gladly sent me to a nutritionist if she could have. And of course I always have the option of paying for these services myself, though I'm not really in that position financially. But I am considering taking her up on the therapist for weight concerns, because I think my body image and willingness to let my size keep me from pursuing things I really would like to do with my life, could benefit from counseling. And lord knows my old obsessive patterns about food are probably something we could work with in therapy, though I am in a good IE space right now and am not acting on any compulsions most of the time, I'm sure there's plenty in my head she can work on. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and the therapist may be familiar with IE. Wouldn't that be nice? Anyway, I'm still in the thought process part of deciding if I should go or not. > > > > Sunny> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 That is good news, Sandy! and you have a good attitude towards it. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, September 2, 2011 9:02 PMSubject: Re: Re: medication thoughts Tai, just wanted to tell you about my visit to the liver doctor. I do have the beginning stages of fatty liver with inflammation. Cause: being over weight and having high cholesterol, not from the medications. The treatment is to lose 10% of my weight and take vitamin E. Also it takes a very long time for this to progress and I have the chance to regress it or arrest it. I probably will die of old age before it becomes anything. Well I guess it is good to now and the treatment is simple. I can go back on my meds and shouldn't really have been taken off them, especially the one for triglyceride. Sandy I agree that much of what is promoted is not necessarily beneficial or accurate regarding medication. Although -- there are some times that we need medication. IMHO. Each one must decide for himself what types of medicine he will accept. I have found that many doctors are sincere, their participation as doctors is not based on greed but sincerity. then again, there are others who are greedy. But many doctors are knowledgeable and sincere. Tai To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:34 PMSubject: Re: Re: medication thoughts Agreed, Sandarah. For me it is a slow but enlightening process, one I am enjoying and wouldn't trade right now for anything else. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 12:49 PMSubject: Re: medication thoughts This process, IE, steps outside the box where most therapies and most people live. It's a road less traveled. I've always tended to question the status quo and try new things; probably because so many of the mainstream approaches haven't worked for me. Thankfully, I'm at least smart enough to step back and say, "wow, this really isn't working" after a hundred or so tries. It's taken a long, long time to realize that when something seems funky, or doesn't make sense - it's probably not me that's wrong. My mind works pretty well, my gut feelings don't generally lie to me and there are lots of things in the world that are built on greed and deception with no concern of who is harmed in the process. I think that part of getting it right with IE is shedding illusions about a lot of boxed in thinking. Sandarah> >> > > > Katcha, I really think this kind of a problem is caused by the insurance industry, not by the medical profession. Who decides what is covered and what the criteria for coverage is? I think my doctor would have gladly sent me to a nutritionist if she could have. And of course I always have the option of paying for these services myself, though I'm not really in that position financially. But I am considering taking her up on the therapist for weight concerns, because I think my body image and willingness to let my size keep me from pursuing things I really would like to do with my life, could benefit from counseling. And lord knows my old obsessive patterns about food are probably something we could work with in therapy, though I am in a good IE space right now and am not acting on any compulsions most of the time, I'm sure there's plenty in my head she can work on. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and the therapist may be familiar with IE. Wouldn't that be nice? Anyway, I'm still in the thought process part of deciding if I should go or not. > > > > Sunny> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 That is good news, Sandy! and you have a good attitude towards it. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Friday, September 2, 2011 9:02 PMSubject: Re: Re: medication thoughts Tai, just wanted to tell you about my visit to the liver doctor. I do have the beginning stages of fatty liver with inflammation. Cause: being over weight and having high cholesterol, not from the medications. The treatment is to lose 10% of my weight and take vitamin E. Also it takes a very long time for this to progress and I have the chance to regress it or arrest it. I probably will die of old age before it becomes anything. Well I guess it is good to now and the treatment is simple. I can go back on my meds and shouldn't really have been taken off them, especially the one for triglyceride. Sandy I agree that much of what is promoted is not necessarily beneficial or accurate regarding medication. Although -- there are some times that we need medication. IMHO. Each one must decide for himself what types of medicine he will accept. I have found that many doctors are sincere, their participation as doctors is not based on greed but sincerity. then again, there are others who are greedy. But many doctors are knowledgeable and sincere. Tai To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:34 PMSubject: Re: Re: medication thoughts Agreed, Sandarah. For me it is a slow but enlightening process, one I am enjoying and wouldn't trade right now for anything else. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 12:49 PMSubject: Re: medication thoughts This process, IE, steps outside the box where most therapies and most people live. It's a road less traveled. I've always tended to question the status quo and try new things; probably because so many of the mainstream approaches haven't worked for me. Thankfully, I'm at least smart enough to step back and say, "wow, this really isn't working" after a hundred or so tries. It's taken a long, long time to realize that when something seems funky, or doesn't make sense - it's probably not me that's wrong. My mind works pretty well, my gut feelings don't generally lie to me and there are lots of things in the world that are built on greed and deception with no concern of who is harmed in the process. I think that part of getting it right with IE is shedding illusions about a lot of boxed in thinking. Sandarah> >> > > > Katcha, I really think this kind of a problem is caused by the insurance industry, not by the medical profession. Who decides what is covered and what the criteria for coverage is? I think my doctor would have gladly sent me to a nutritionist if she could have. And of course I always have the option of paying for these services myself, though I'm not really in that position financially. But I am considering taking her up on the therapist for weight concerns, because I think my body image and willingness to let my size keep me from pursuing things I really would like to do with my life, could benefit from counseling. And lord knows my old obsessive patterns about food are probably something we could work with in therapy, though I am in a good IE space right now and am not acting on any compulsions most of the time, I'm sure there's plenty in my head she can work on. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and the therapist may be familiar with IE. Wouldn't that be nice? Anyway, I'm still in the thought process part of deciding if I should go or not. > > > > Sunny> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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