Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 This process, IE, steps outside the box where most therapies and most people live. It's a road less traveled. I've always tended to question the status quo and try new things; probably because so many of the mainstream approaches haven't worked for me. Thankfully, I'm at least smart enough to step back and say, " wow, this really isn't working " after a hundred or so tries. It's taken a long, long time to realize that when something seems funky, or doesn't make sense - it's probably not me that's wrong. My mind works pretty well, my gut feelings don't generally lie to me and there are lots of things in the world that are built on greed and deception with no concern of who is harmed in the process. I think that part of getting it right with IE is shedding illusions about a lot of boxed in thinking. Sandarah > > > > > > Katcha, I really think this kind of a problem is caused by the insurance industry, not by the medical profession. Who decides what is covered and what the criteria for coverage is? I think my doctor would have gladly sent me to a nutritionist if she could have. And of course I always have the option of paying for these services myself, though I'm not really in that position financially. But I am considering taking her up on the therapist for weight concerns, because I think my body image and willingness to let my size keep me from pursuing things I really would like to do with my life, could benefit from counseling. And lord knows my old obsessive patterns about food are probably something we could work with in therapy, though I am in a good IE space right now and am not acting on any compulsions most of the time, I'm sure there's plenty in my head she can work on. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and the therapist may be familiar with IE. Wouldn't that be nice? Anyway, I'm still in the thought process part of deciding if I should go or not. > > > > Sunny > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 It's Kaiser Permanente. You have email access to your own doctors and specialists but not to those who haven't treated you yet. Client services doesn't really know anything about the doctors /providers other than who has opening for new patients and where they got their training. But you are welcome to switch providers if you don't click with the one you try. it actually works out pretty well for those of us who have no problem switching. Sunny Re: medication thoughts Perhaps you could make a single question phone call or personal note (email?) asking into their knowledge or understanding of this concept (yes or no). I can't think of why any professional would charge for such an inquiry. It would be like being charged to ask which school they went to or area of specialty or even calling for setting up an appointment! Katcha > > > Katcha, I really think this kind of a problem is caused by the insurance > ndustry, not by the medical profession. Who decides what is covered and what > he criteria for coverage is? I think my doctor would have gladly sent me to a > utritionist if she could have. And of course I always have the option of > aying for these services myself, though I'm not really in that position > inancially. But I am considering taking her up on the therapist for weight > oncerns, because I think my body image and willingness to let my size keep me > rom pursuing things I really would like to do with my life, could benefit from > ounseling. And lord knows my old obsessive patterns about food are probably > omething we could work with in therapy, though I am in a good IE space right > ow and am not acting on any compulsions most of the time, I'm sure there's > lenty in my head she can work on. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and the > herapist may be familiar with IE. Wouldn't that be nice? Any > way, I'm still in the thought process part of deciding if I should go or not. > > Sunny > > > ----------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Makes no sense to me either. It should be called barbaric surgery.CaroleTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 1:20:36 PMSubject: Re: Re: medication thoughts Everyone I know who has had any form of Bariatric surgery has either gained a significant amount of weight back over the years or is now beginning to gain it. I'm not sure why it's considered a such an important tool when it doesn't work any better than dieting since it's an extreme form of restriction. The weight gain has become a pretty well documented thing. Every season of the biggest loser seems to have at least one very large person who had the surgery in the past and now weighs 400+ pounds. Makes no sense to me. Sunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Agreed, Sandarah. For me it is a slow but enlightening process, one I am enjoying and wouldn't trade right now for anything else. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 12:49 PMSubject: Re: medication thoughts This process, IE, steps outside the box where most therapies and most people live. It's a road less traveled. I've always tended to question the status quo and try new things; probably because so many of the mainstream approaches haven't worked for me. Thankfully, I'm at least smart enough to step back and say, "wow, this really isn't working" after a hundred or so tries. It's taken a long, long time to realize that when something seems funky, or doesn't make sense - it's probably not me that's wrong. My mind works pretty well, my gut feelings don't generally lie to me and there are lots of things in the world that are built on greed and deception with no concern of who is harmed in the process. I think that part of getting it right with IE is shedding illusions about a lot of boxed in thinking. Sandarah> >> > > > Katcha, I really think this kind of a problem is caused by the insurance industry, not by the medical profession. Who decides what is covered and what the criteria for coverage is? I think my doctor would have gladly sent me to a nutritionist if she could have. And of course I always have the option of paying for these services myself, though I'm not really in that position financially. But I am considering taking her up on the therapist for weight concerns, because I think my body image and willingness to let my size keep me from pursuing things I really would like to do with my life, could benefit from counseling. And lord knows my old obsessive patterns about food are probably something we could work with in therapy, though I am in a good IE space right now and am not acting on any compulsions most of the time, I'm sure there's plenty in my head she can work on. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and the therapist may be familiar with IE. Wouldn't that be nice? Anyway, I'm still in the thought process part of deciding if I should go or not. > > > > Sunny> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Agreed, Sandarah. For me it is a slow but enlightening process, one I am enjoying and wouldn't trade right now for anything else. Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 12:49 PMSubject: Re: medication thoughts This process, IE, steps outside the box where most therapies and most people live. It's a road less traveled. I've always tended to question the status quo and try new things; probably because so many of the mainstream approaches haven't worked for me. Thankfully, I'm at least smart enough to step back and say, "wow, this really isn't working" after a hundred or so tries. It's taken a long, long time to realize that when something seems funky, or doesn't make sense - it's probably not me that's wrong. My mind works pretty well, my gut feelings don't generally lie to me and there are lots of things in the world that are built on greed and deception with no concern of who is harmed in the process. I think that part of getting it right with IE is shedding illusions about a lot of boxed in thinking. Sandarah> >> > > > Katcha, I really think this kind of a problem is caused by the insurance industry, not by the medical profession. Who decides what is covered and what the criteria for coverage is? I think my doctor would have gladly sent me to a nutritionist if she could have. And of course I always have the option of paying for these services myself, though I'm not really in that position financially. But I am considering taking her up on the therapist for weight concerns, because I think my body image and willingness to let my size keep me from pursuing things I really would like to do with my life, could benefit from counseling. And lord knows my old obsessive patterns about food are probably something we could work with in therapy, though I am in a good IE space right now and am not acting on any compulsions most of the time, I'm sure there's plenty in my head she can work on. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and the therapist may be familiar with IE. Wouldn't that be nice? Anyway, I'm still in the thought process part of deciding if I should go or not. > > > > Sunny> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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