Re: Re: Tossing food

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Yes. I ask myself where that food is going to garbage waste or to my waist. Sandy

 

I liked that someone shared how tossing unwanted food was not wasting it so much as not WAISTing it :-) Thought that was a pretty good point of view.

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

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> Hi sue. I know what you mean about food in the refrigerator. If you have to throw it out, don't worry about it. In fact, think of it as the right thing to do if you have to throw it out because you are not eating it. Someone mentioned a while back that they LOVE to throw food out! I found that very empowering. Tai

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Right, Katcha. Food grows all the time under good conditions in the field, and the wild. If not picked or eaten by animals, it rots anyway. And nourishes the ground. If I don't eat food that I've paid for, what are the benefits? If I see "free food" in the supermarket or other places, does that mean I have to eat it so that it does not go to waste? If vegetation is not picked, it goes back to the ground and nourishes the earth. Did I manufacture plastic packaging? No. So if I want to, I can always put the plastic in one place and dump the food in another place. :-) So what's the bit deal in not hurting ourselves by throwing food out? At least it's not batteries, hahaha, that we're dumping in the garbage pile, and who are we hurting? If I eat the food that I don't really WANT, who am I hurting? Not the landfill, and I'm

not hurting the people who are starving because I'm not getting that unwanted or excess food to them. I really cannot think how a little bit of food that I"m going to throw out will help starving people, the food other countries send to them often rots anyway, and should I kill myself by overeating because others are starving and I have excess or unwanted food around? maybe a poor analogy, but I know I'm not going to solve the world's problem by throwing out food that will hurt me if I eat it, or which I really don't want to eat unless, of course, *I* am starving, then I am sure that I will be able to eat food I really don't like.

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Tai, Great post! You said it so well.  Thank you.  I think of all the food the grocery stores throw out because of the date on the package or because the produce is over ripe, etc.  What a WASTE and due to health regulations as I understand it, they are not allowed to donate it to homeless or anyone.  The last I heard, not even to the pigs like they used to.  That might not be accurate though. Sandy

 

Right, Katcha. Food grows all the time under good conditions in the field, and the wild. If not picked or eaten by animals, it rots anyway. And nourishes the ground. If I don't eat food that I've paid for, what are the benefits? If I see " free food " in the supermarket or other places, does that mean I have to eat it so that it does not go to waste? If vegetation is not picked, it goes back to the ground and nourishes the earth. Did I manufacture plastic packaging? No. So if I want to, I can always put the plastic in one place and dump the food in another place. :-) So what's the bit deal in not hurting ourselves by throwing food out? At least it's not batteries, hahaha, that we're dumping in the garbage pile, and who are we hurting? If I eat the food that I don't really WANT, who am I hurting? Not the landfill, and I'm

not hurting the people who are starving because I'm not getting that unwanted or excess food to them. I really cannot think how a little bit of food that I " m going to throw out will help starving people, the food other countries send to them often rots anyway, and should I kill myself by overeating because others are starving and I have excess or unwanted food around? maybe a poor analogy, but I know I'm not going to solve the world's problem by throwing out food that will hurt me if I eat it, or which I really don't want to eat unless, of course, *I* am starving, then I am sure that I will be able to eat food I really don't like.

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Sandy, it's taken me a long time to get here (this place of reasoning with myself about food). Thanks for your good words and posts. If it weren't for other others on the board, I probably wouldn't be progressing as quickly, and, I hate to say it, would still be worried about diets and weighing myself. :-) Have a good day, I have a lot of walking work in the apartment to clean things up since I'm organizing things. What a job. TaiTo:

IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 12:10 PMSubject: Re: Re: Tossing food

Tai, Great post! You said it so well. Thank you. I think of all the food the grocery stores throw out because of the date on the package or because the produce is over ripe, etc. What a WASTE and due to health regulations as I understand it, they are not allowed to donate it to homeless or anyone. The last I heard, not even to the pigs like they used to. That might not be accurate though. Sandy

Right, Katcha. Food grows all the time under good conditions in the field, and the wild. If not picked or eaten by animals, it rots anyway. And nourishes the ground. If I don't eat food that I've paid for, what are the benefits? If I see "free food" in the supermarket or other places, does that mean I have to eat it so that it does not go to waste? If vegetation is not picked, it goes back to the ground and nourishes the earth. Did I manufacture plastic packaging? No. So if I want to, I can always put the plastic in one place and dump the food in another place. :-) So what's the bit deal in not hurting ourselves by throwing food out? At least it's not batteries, hahaha, that we're dumping in the garbage pile, and who are we hurting? If I eat the food that I don't really WANT, who am I hurting? Not the landfill, and I'm

not hurting the people who are starving because I'm not getting that unwanted or excess food to them. I really cannot think how a little bit of food that I"m going to throw out will help starving people, the food other countries send to them often rots anyway, and should I kill myself by overeating because others are starving and I have excess or unwanted food around? maybe a poor analogy, but I know I'm not going to solve the world's problem by throwing out food that will hurt me if I eat it, or which I really don't want to eat unless, of course, *I* am starving, then I am sure that I will be able to eat food I really don't like.

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Sorry, gotta disagree with the rah rah let's toss food thing going around.The EPA estimates that 14% of waste is food waste. Less than 3% of that is recycled. Americans throw out more food than anything else. When it does rot in the landfills, it releases methane, which scientists think is a greenhouse gas.It's also a massive waste of money.Buy less, store it better, use it up, compost it, pass it on to friends, freeze it, dry it, make stock out of it, find someone with chickens (they eat pretty much any plant product other than potato peels), get worm composting going in your kitchen (no, it doesn't smell).There are far more responsible options than throwing away food gleefully and thinking it's no big deal to do so.

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yeah, but the problem partially came in today when I thought I had paid good money for the food and I didn't want to throw it out, so unfortunately I ate it. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent:

Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:14 PMSubject: Re: Tossing food

That is true at the grocery stores I go to also - MUST go into the trash, can't be donated or even sold 'discounted'. Health regulations probably play a part but its also a business decision - so that the employees can't 'discount' something they shouldn't and pass on a bargain to a friend. So sad that the few that abuse a system end up causing those who don't to suffer in the long run. I'm so for at least allowing a (pig/chicken) farmer take advantage of nearly fresh produce to feed to animals that probably don't get as much fresh foods as would benefit them.

Katcha

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> I think of all the food

> the grocery stores throw out because of the date on the package or because

> the produce is over ripe, etc. What a WASTE and due to health regulations

> as I understand it, they are not allowed to donate it to homeless or

> anyone. The last I heard, not even to the pigs like they used to. That

> might not be accurate though. Sandy

[Guest guest]

yeah, but the problem partially came in today when I thought I had paid good money for the food and I didn't want to throw it out, so unfortunately I ate it. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent:

Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:14 PMSubject: Re: Tossing food

That is true at the grocery stores I go to also - MUST go into the trash, can't be donated or even sold 'discounted'. Health regulations probably play a part but its also a business decision - so that the employees can't 'discount' something they shouldn't and pass on a bargain to a friend. So sad that the few that abuse a system end up causing those who don't to suffer in the long run. I'm so for at least allowing a (pig/chicken) farmer take advantage of nearly fresh produce to feed to animals that probably don't get as much fresh foods as would benefit them.

Katcha

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> I think of all the food

> the grocery stores throw out because of the date on the package or because

> the produce is over ripe, etc. What a WASTE and due to health regulations

> as I understand it, they are not allowed to donate it to homeless or

> anyone. The last I heard, not even to the pigs like they used to. That

> might not be accurate though. Sandy

[Guest guest]

, I wouldn't go into the store and buy it and toss it out with that as the objective. But if I have to make a choice between putting unwanted food in my mouth or throwing it out, of course the same can be said of anything we buy and really don't need or use. My throwing food out is not going to solve the hunger problem, but if you'd like to discuss that I'll be happy to. And I will certainly work on not buying what I probably won't use. My point was if I'm looking at something and I'm full, should I eat it because I feel guilty to throw it out? I agree there is a better solution, which is to not buy the food in the first place. But then there's eating out, and I might eat something because I'm hungry but don't want to take it home because I don't like it that much. I don't want to feel guilty about getting rid of food instead of putting it in my stomach at that point. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent:

Wednesday, August 17, 2011 2:05 PMSubject: Re: Re: Tossing food

, Thanks for your input. I agree with at least some of you suggestions for those of us who can(like find chickens). I am working on getting out of the habit of buying too much at one time, but that means another trip to the grocery store, more gas emissions from my car and expense. When I have bought too much fruit especially, I do freeze it for protein shakes or smoothies. I got so much in my tiny freezer, I did give a lot to my son who likes the shakes(all except the bananas which he doesn't like). I have enough to make a lot of banana bread but would have to get all the other ingredients, heat up my kitchen, set my AC cooler. I have no place nor use for compost. I guess mostly mine is fruit or the sweets I didn't need in the first place. I would be willing to bet that the highest amount of food waste comes from mainly grocery stores, institutions(like schools,hospitals,etc.) And yes my stay in the

hospital the food was not edible, except for breakfast. And so much of school lunches get pitched. I also think the point of the posts was that those of us who just can't throw anything away(clean the plate, frig, etc. ) eat it up and get really over weight. So the glee was over being successful at not putting it in our mouths. I know not everyone has that problem and many of us are working on that, but we are not there yet. Sandy

Sorry, gotta disagree with the rah rah let's toss food thing going around.The EPA estimates that 14% of waste is food waste. Less than 3% of that is recycled. Americans throw out more food than anything else. When it does rot in the landfills, it releases methane, which scientists think is a greenhouse gas.

It's also a massive waste of money.Buy less, store it better, use it up, compost it, pass it on to friends, freeze it, dry it, make stock out of it, find someone with chickens (they eat pretty much any plant product other than potato peels), get worm composting going in your kitchen (no, it doesn't smell).

There are far more responsible options than throwing away food gleefully and thinking it's no big deal to do so.