Guest guest Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Evan,I think you are wiser than you realize and on the absolute right path. Eating what your body is asking for is SO different from eating whatever you want- but eventually they become the same thing because as you continue to cue in to your body the more and more you don't want the things that make it feel lousy. if you want to talk further about this you can email me directly as this is one of my passions. I'm just curious. For those of you who have been doing this for a while. Have you eventually lost the taste for sugar? In other words, has anyone who had a total sweet tooth, after really listening to what their body wants over a period of time, just become disinterested in sugar? Here's another question, while I'm at it. The only book I've read on this subject is one of Geneen Roths'. One of her tenants is, "Eat what your body is asking for." Now, that's very different from eat whatever you want. I noticed a lot of people eating ice cream and cake. When I've checked in with my body I've never received a clear directive to eat something sugary. That's why, for the moment I'm staying away from sugar. If I feel like my body is giving me a genuine cue for sugar then I'll really have to look into eating again. Or, am I overthinking it? If you're mindful enough, does the desire just leave you. Sorry, I know that's a lot, but I'm curious about so many things. Thanks, Evan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Evan, I think that if it were just a physical problem, it would be easy to just give our bodies what we need. But it's also an emotional and psychological problem. If I recall from her books - feeding the hungry heart maybe? Or overcoming emotional eating? I don't remember, but Geneen Roth also advocates carrying around a bag of cookie dough and eating it if that's what you are craving - and she promises that eventually we'll crave something other than cookie dough. It's about healing our relationship with food... and sometimes that means taking the charge out of things like cookie dough, or cake and ice cream (for me) so that we know we can have them anytime we want, but at the same time we can hear the subtle cues that our bodies give us. If I can have cake and ice cream any time I want, then it stops representing celebration to me and starts just being food... and not a very satisfying food at that! I'm fairly new (May 8th of this year) but that is my understanding of the process I am undertaking at this moment. Rain I'm just curious. For those of you who have been doing this for a while. Have you eventually lost the taste for sugar?In other words, has anyone who had a total sweet tooth, after really listening to what their body wants over a period of time, just become disinterested in sugar?Here's another question, while I'm at it. The only book I've read on this subject is one of Geneen Roths'. One of her tenants is, "Eat what your body is asking for." Now, that's very different from eat whatever you want. I noticed a lot of people eating ice cream and cake. When I've checked in with my body I've never received a clear directive to eat something sugary.That's why, for the moment I'm staying away from sugar. If I feel like my body is giving me a genuine cue for sugar then I'll really have to look into eating again.Or, am I overthinking it? If you're mindful enough, does the desire just leave you.Sorry, I know that's a lot, but I'm curious about so many things.Thanks,Evan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 I shouldn't have said "any time I want" but rather "when I am hungry." Rain I'm just curious. For those of you who have been doing this for a while. Have you eventually lost the taste for sugar?In other words, has anyone who had a total sweet tooth, after really listening to what their body wants over a period of time, just become disinterested in sugar?Here's another question, while I'm at it. The only book I've read on this subject is one of Geneen Roths'. One of her tenants is, "Eat what your body is asking for." Now, that's very different from eat whatever you want. I noticed a lot of people eating ice cream and cake. When I've checked in with my body I've never received a clear directive to eat something sugary.That's why, for the moment I'm staying away from sugar. If I feel like my body is giving me a genuine cue for sugar then I'll really have to look into eating again.Or, am I overthinking it? If you're mindful enough, does the desire just leave you.Sorry, I know that's a lot, but I'm curious about so many things.Thanks,Evan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Evan,I think you bring up a really good, interesting point.One that I don't really know the answer to, for sure!From a health perspective, of course, our bodies don't really NEED processed sugar. And most of the time that I am just desperately craving sugar, it's probably because a) I let my blood sugar get too low... in which case, probably I could think of a more productive solution than cake... plus, if i eat cake when i'm starving, my blood sugar will spike, and then drop again (versus having cake after dinner) or for an emotional reason. BUT, there are all sorts of reasons to eat. People get together to eat to celebrate, mourn, reconnect, etc. Eating is hugely important to most cultures, and rightly so, from my perspective. I think the thing with IE is that we try to at least ALSO be hungry when we eat. To not eat ONLY for emotional reasons. So yes, in a strictly utilitarian world, we wouldn't " need " to eat sugar. But sugar will probably always taste good to us, at least from time to time. That said, I definitely eat a lot less sugar now than i used to. i don't love the way that processed sugar makes me feel... so i only have it when i really " want " it... however you define that want! not sure this helps... and interesting idea to mull over!best,abbyIE since 11/08 I shouldn't have said " any time I want " but rather " when I am hungry. " Rain I'm just curious. For those of you who have been doing this for a while. Have you eventually lost the taste for sugar?In other words, has anyone who had a total sweet tooth, after really listening to what their body wants over a period of time, just become disinterested in sugar? Here's another question, while I'm at it. The only book I've read on this subject is one of Geneen Roths'. One of her tenants is, " Eat what your body is asking for. " Now, that's very different from eat whatever you want. I noticed a lot of people eating ice cream and cake. When I've checked in with my body I've never received a clear directive to eat something sugary. That's why, for the moment I'm staying away from sugar. If I feel like my body is giving me a genuine cue for sugar then I'll really have to look into eating again.Or, am I overthinking it? If you're mindful enough, does the desire just leave you. Sorry, I know that's a lot, but I'm curious about so many things.Thanks,Evan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 For those of you who have been doing this for a while. Have you eventually lost the taste for sugar? For me, no I haven't. But: I have lost the cravings that I used to have. I tend to eat sugar only to the extent that I want it, and then I get fed up and move onto something more fulfilling. Whereas I often used to eat two packets of fudge without stopping, now I'm usually satisfied with the occasional one or two squares. Paddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Evan, I ditto what says in that your will eventually want the things that make you feel healthy. I don't think I'll ever not what something with sugar. But I don't think it is my body that craves sugar. It is my mind and my emotions. There is something psychological about sugar. I still love ice cream and chocolate. I like the creaminess and coolness of ice cream and love how the chocolate melts in my mouth. Something soothing about these items, especially when I am stressed, overly tired or triggered emotionally. I also think making what emotional connection I have to this food helped tremendously (my Dad and I used to make ice cream sundaes together and equate ice cream to my Dad's love). The difference after doing IE for 4 years is that I don't want it every day. It is an occassional item that I eat in moderation rather than depriving myself because some diet tells me to, then to just binge and overeat on it because I feel deprived and poor-me that I can't eat these items. My body and mind now know that I can have these items when I really want them. But I do think before having them. If I've already had something sweet that day then I might opt for something like fruit instead. I find I make much healthier choices because my body prefers healthy foods. My mind finally got that connection that my body feels good when I eat fruits and vegetables vs. sugary items. Hope this helps. Alana > > I'm just curious. For those of you who have been doing this for a while. Have you eventually lost the taste for sugar? > > In other words, has anyone who had a total sweet tooth, after really listening to what their body wants over a period of time, just become disinterested in sugar? > > Here's another question, while I'm at it. > > The only book I've read on this subject is one of Geneen Roths'. One of her tenants is, " Eat what your body is asking for. " Now, that's very different from eat whatever you want. I noticed a lot of people eating ice cream and cake. When I've checked in with my body I've never received a clear directive to eat something sugary. > > That's why, for the moment I'm staying away from sugar. If I feel like my body is giving me a genuine cue for sugar then I'll really have to look into eating again. > > Or, am I overthinking it? If you're mindful enough, does the desire just leave you. > > Sorry, I know that's a lot, but I'm curious about so many things. > > Thanks, > > Evan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Alana, I dream of the day my body decides healthier foods are better than ice cream and chocolate! It's good to know there is hope! lol Barb Subject: Re: Lost the taste for sugarTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Friday, July 22, 2011, 11:30 AM Evan,I ditto what says in that your will eventually want the things that make you feel healthy.I don't think I'll ever not what something with sugar. But I don't think it is my body that craves sugar. It is my mind and my emotions. There is something psychological about sugar. I still love ice cream and chocolate. I like the creaminess and coolness of ice cream and love how the chocolate melts in my mouth. Something soothing about these items, especially when I am stressed, overly tired or triggered emotionally. I also think making what emotional connection I have to this food helped tremendously (my Dad and I used to make ice cream sundaes together and equate ice cream to my Dad's love).The difference after doing IE for 4 years is that I don't want it every day. It is an occassional item that I eat in moderation rather than depriving myself because some diet tells me to, then to just binge and overeat on it because I feel deprived and poor-me that I can't eat these items. My body and mind now know that I can have these items when I really want them. But I do think before having them. If I've already had something sweet that day then I might opt for something like fruit instead. I find I make much healthier choices because my body prefers healthy foods. My mind finally got that connection that my body feels good when I eat fruits and vegetables vs. sugary items.Hope this helps.Alana>> I'm just curious. For those of you who have been doing this for a while. Have you eventually lost the taste for sugar?> > In other words, has anyone who had a total sweet tooth, after really listening to what their body wants over a period of time, just become disinterested in sugar?> > Here's another question, while I'm at it. > > The only book I've read on this subject is one of Geneen Roths'. One of her tenants is, "Eat what your body is asking for." Now, that's very different from eat whatever you want. I noticed a lot of people eating ice cream and cake. When I've checked in with my body I've never received a clear directive to eat something sugary.> > That's why, for the moment I'm staying away from sugar. If I feel like my body is giving me a genuine cue for sugar then I'll really have to look into eating again.> > Or, am I overthinking it? If you're mindful enough, does the desire just leave you.> > Sorry, I know that's a lot, but I'm curious about so many things.> > Thanks,> > Evan> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Alana, I dream of the day my body decides healthier foods are better than ice cream and chocolate! It's good to know there is hope! lol Barb Subject: Re: Lost the taste for sugarTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Friday, July 22, 2011, 11:30 AM Evan,I ditto what says in that your will eventually want the things that make you feel healthy.I don't think I'll ever not what something with sugar. But I don't think it is my body that craves sugar. It is my mind and my emotions. There is something psychological about sugar. I still love ice cream and chocolate. I like the creaminess and coolness of ice cream and love how the chocolate melts in my mouth. Something soothing about these items, especially when I am stressed, overly tired or triggered emotionally. I also think making what emotional connection I have to this food helped tremendously (my Dad and I used to make ice cream sundaes together and equate ice cream to my Dad's love).The difference after doing IE for 4 years is that I don't want it every day. It is an occassional item that I eat in moderation rather than depriving myself because some diet tells me to, then to just binge and overeat on it because I feel deprived and poor-me that I can't eat these items. My body and mind now know that I can have these items when I really want them. But I do think before having them. If I've already had something sweet that day then I might opt for something like fruit instead. I find I make much healthier choices because my body prefers healthy foods. My mind finally got that connection that my body feels good when I eat fruits and vegetables vs. sugary items.Hope this helps.Alana>> I'm just curious. For those of you who have been doing this for a while. Have you eventually lost the taste for sugar?> > In other words, has anyone who had a total sweet tooth, after really listening to what their body wants over a period of time, just become disinterested in sugar?> > Here's another question, while I'm at it. > > The only book I've read on this subject is one of Geneen Roths'. One of her tenants is, "Eat what your body is asking for." Now, that's very different from eat whatever you want. I noticed a lot of people eating ice cream and cake. When I've checked in with my body I've never received a clear directive to eat something sugary.> > That's why, for the moment I'm staying away from sugar. If I feel like my body is giving me a genuine cue for sugar then I'll really have to look into eating again.> > Or, am I overthinking it? If you're mindful enough, does the desire just leave you.> > Sorry, I know that's a lot, but I'm curious about so many things.> > Thanks,> > Evan> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Hi Alana, Thanks for posting that. That is the place that I am hoping to get to! It sounds sane. I want sanity and peace. And I have some, but old fears and compulsions still crop up. Looking forward to 4 years in! From: AlanaSent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:30 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: Lost the taste for sugar Evan,I ditto what says in that your will eventually want the things that make you feel healthy.I don't think I'll ever not what something with sugar. But I don't think it is my body that craves sugar. It is my mind and my emotions. There is something psychological about sugar. I still love ice cream and chocolate. I like the creaminess and coolness of ice cream and love how the chocolate melts in my mouth. Something soothing about these items, especially when I am stressed, overly tired or triggered emotionally. I also think making what emotional connection I have to this food helped tremendously (my Dad and I used to make ice cream sundaes together and equate ice cream to my Dad's love).The difference after doing IE for 4 years is that I don't want it every day. It is an occassional item that I eat in moderation rather than depriving myself because some diet tells me to, then to just binge and overeat on it because I feel deprived and poor-me that I can't eat these items. My body and mind now know that I can have these items when I really want them. But I do think before having them. If I've already had something sweet that day then I might opt for something like fruit instead. I find I make much healthier choices because my body prefers healthy foods. My mind finally got that connection that my body feels good when I eat fruits and vegetables vs. sugary items.Hope this helps.Alana>> I'm just curious. For those of you who have been doing this for a while. Have you eventually lost the taste for sugar?> > In other words, has anyone who had a total sweet tooth, after really listening to what their body wants over a period of time, just become disinterested in sugar?> > Here's another question, while I'm at it. > > The only book I've read on this subject is one of Geneen Roths'. One of her tenants is, "Eat what your body is asking for." Now, that's very different from eat whatever you want. I noticed a lot of people eating ice cream and cake. When I've checked in with my body I've never received a clear directive to eat something sugary.> > That's why, for the moment I'm staying away from sugar. If I feel like my body is giving me a genuine cue for sugar then I'll really have to look into eating again.> > Or, am I overthinking it? If you're mindful enough, does the desire just leave you.> > Sorry, I know that's a lot, but I'm curious about so many things.> > Thanks,> > Evan> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Hi Alana, Thanks for posting that. That is the place that I am hoping to get to! It sounds sane. I want sanity and peace. And I have some, but old fears and compulsions still crop up. Looking forward to 4 years in! From: AlanaSent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:30 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: Lost the taste for sugar Evan,I ditto what says in that your will eventually want the things that make you feel healthy.I don't think I'll ever not what something with sugar. But I don't think it is my body that craves sugar. It is my mind and my emotions. There is something psychological about sugar. I still love ice cream and chocolate. I like the creaminess and coolness of ice cream and love how the chocolate melts in my mouth. Something soothing about these items, especially when I am stressed, overly tired or triggered emotionally. I also think making what emotional connection I have to this food helped tremendously (my Dad and I used to make ice cream sundaes together and equate ice cream to my Dad's love).The difference after doing IE for 4 years is that I don't want it every day. It is an occassional item that I eat in moderation rather than depriving myself because some diet tells me to, then to just binge and overeat on it because I feel deprived and poor-me that I can't eat these items. My body and mind now know that I can have these items when I really want them. But I do think before having them. If I've already had something sweet that day then I might opt for something like fruit instead. I find I make much healthier choices because my body prefers healthy foods. My mind finally got that connection that my body feels good when I eat fruits and vegetables vs. sugary items.Hope this helps.Alana>> I'm just curious. For those of you who have been doing this for a while. Have you eventually lost the taste for sugar?> > In other words, has anyone who had a total sweet tooth, after really listening to what their body wants over a period of time, just become disinterested in sugar?> > Here's another question, while I'm at it. > > The only book I've read on this subject is one of Geneen Roths'. One of her tenants is, "Eat what your body is asking for." Now, that's very different from eat whatever you want. I noticed a lot of people eating ice cream and cake. When I've checked in with my body I've never received a clear directive to eat something sugary.> > That's why, for the moment I'm staying away from sugar. If I feel like my body is giving me a genuine cue for sugar then I'll really have to look into eating again.> > Or, am I overthinking it? If you're mindful enough, does the desire just leave you.> > Sorry, I know that's a lot, but I'm curious about so many things.> > Thanks,> > Evan> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Hi Alana, Thanks for posting that. That is the place that I am hoping to get to! It sounds sane. I want sanity and peace. And I have some, but old fears and compulsions still crop up. Looking forward to 4 years in! From: AlanaSent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:30 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: Lost the taste for sugar Evan,I ditto what says in that your will eventually want the things that make you feel healthy.I don't think I'll ever not what something with sugar. But I don't think it is my body that craves sugar. It is my mind and my emotions. There is something psychological about sugar. I still love ice cream and chocolate. I like the creaminess and coolness of ice cream and love how the chocolate melts in my mouth. Something soothing about these items, especially when I am stressed, overly tired or triggered emotionally. I also think making what emotional connection I have to this food helped tremendously (my Dad and I used to make ice cream sundaes together and equate ice cream to my Dad's love).The difference after doing IE for 4 years is that I don't want it every day. It is an occassional item that I eat in moderation rather than depriving myself because some diet tells me to, then to just binge and overeat on it because I feel deprived and poor-me that I can't eat these items. My body and mind now know that I can have these items when I really want them. But I do think before having them. If I've already had something sweet that day then I might opt for something like fruit instead. I find I make much healthier choices because my body prefers healthy foods. My mind finally got that connection that my body feels good when I eat fruits and vegetables vs. sugary items.Hope this helps.Alana>> I'm just curious. For those of you who have been doing this for a while. Have you eventually lost the taste for sugar?> > In other words, has anyone who had a total sweet tooth, after really listening to what their body wants over a period of time, just become disinterested in sugar?> > Here's another question, while I'm at it. > > The only book I've read on this subject is one of Geneen Roths'. One of her tenants is, "Eat what your body is asking for." Now, that's very different from eat whatever you want. I noticed a lot of people eating ice cream and cake. When I've checked in with my body I've never received a clear directive to eat something sugary.> > That's why, for the moment I'm staying away from sugar. If I feel like my body is giving me a genuine cue for sugar then I'll really have to look into eating again.> > Or, am I overthinking it? If you're mindful enough, does the desire just leave you.> > Sorry, I know that's a lot, but I'm curious about so many things.> > Thanks,> > Evan> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 I also just want to voice another point of view. I was so SO elated about not having cake and ice cream be forbidden in the beginning. The elation has worn off, but not completely. But even if I eat it every week...AND feel the physical consequences, it's still far more sane than denying myself this treat completely, then eating large amounts accompanied by large amounts of guilt, and hating myself and attempting to repent afterward! Rain From: RainSent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:57 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: RE: Re: Lost the taste for sugar Hi Alana, Thanks for posting that. That is the place that I am hoping to get to! It sounds sane. I want sanity and peace. And I have some, but old fears and compulsions still crop up. Looking forward to 4 years in! From: AlanaSent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:30 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: Lost the taste for sugar Evan,I ditto what says in that your will eventually want the things that make you feel healthy.I don't think I'll ever not what something with sugar. But I don't think it is my body that craves sugar. It is my mind and my emotions. There is something psychological about sugar. I still love ice cream and chocolate. I like the creaminess and coolness of ice cream and love how the chocolate melts in my mouth. Something soothing about these items, especially when I am stressed, overly tired or triggered emotionally. I also think making what emotional connection I have to this food helped tremendously (my Dad and I used to make ice cream sundaes together and equate ice cream to my Dad's love).The difference after doing IE for 4 years is that I don't want it every day. It is an occassional item that I eat in moderation rather than depriving myself because some diet tells me to, then to just binge and overeat on it because I feel deprived and poor-me that I can't eat these items. My body and mind now know that I can have these items when I really want them. But I do think before having them. If I've already had something sweet that day then I might opt for something like fruit instead. I find I make much healthier choices because my body prefers healthy foods. My mind finally got that connection that my body feels good when I eat fruits and vegetables vs. sugary items.Hope this helps.Alana>> I'm just curious. For those of you who have been doing this for a while. Have you eventually lost the taste for sugar?> > In other words, has anyone who had a total sweet tooth, after really listening to what their body wants over a period of time, just become disinterested in sugar?> > Here's another question, while I'm at it. > > The only book I've read on this subject is one of Geneen Roths'. One of her tenants is, "Eat what your body is asking for." Now, that's very different from eat whatever you want. I noticed a lot of people eating ice cream and cake. When I've checked in with my body I've never received a clear directive to eat something sugary.> > That's why, for the moment I'm staying away from sugar. If I feel like my body is giving me a genuine cue for sugar then I'll really have to look into eating again.> > Or, am I overthinking it? If you're mindful enough, does the desire just leave you.> > Sorry, I know that's a lot, but I'm curious about so many things.> > Thanks,> > Evan> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 I also just want to voice another point of view. I was so SO elated about not having cake and ice cream be forbidden in the beginning. The elation has worn off, but not completely. But even if I eat it every week...AND feel the physical consequences, it's still far more sane than denying myself this treat completely, then eating large amounts accompanied by large amounts of guilt, and hating myself and attempting to repent afterward! Rain From: RainSent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:57 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: RE: Re: Lost the taste for sugar Hi Alana, Thanks for posting that. That is the place that I am hoping to get to! It sounds sane. I want sanity and peace. And I have some, but old fears and compulsions still crop up. Looking forward to 4 years in! From: AlanaSent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:30 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: Lost the taste for sugar Evan,I ditto what says in that your will eventually want the things that make you feel healthy.I don't think I'll ever not what something with sugar. But I don't think it is my body that craves sugar. It is my mind and my emotions. There is something psychological about sugar. I still love ice cream and chocolate. I like the creaminess and coolness of ice cream and love how the chocolate melts in my mouth. Something soothing about these items, especially when I am stressed, overly tired or triggered emotionally. I also think making what emotional connection I have to this food helped tremendously (my Dad and I used to make ice cream sundaes together and equate ice cream to my Dad's love).The difference after doing IE for 4 years is that I don't want it every day. It is an occassional item that I eat in moderation rather than depriving myself because some diet tells me to, then to just binge and overeat on it because I feel deprived and poor-me that I can't eat these items. My body and mind now know that I can have these items when I really want them. But I do think before having them. If I've already had something sweet that day then I might opt for something like fruit instead. I find I make much healthier choices because my body prefers healthy foods. My mind finally got that connection that my body feels good when I eat fruits and vegetables vs. sugary items.Hope this helps.Alana>> I'm just curious. For those of you who have been doing this for a while. Have you eventually lost the taste for sugar?> > In other words, has anyone who had a total sweet tooth, after really listening to what their body wants over a period of time, just become disinterested in sugar?> > Here's another question, while I'm at it. > > The only book I've read on this subject is one of Geneen Roths'. One of her tenants is, "Eat what your body is asking for." Now, that's very different from eat whatever you want. I noticed a lot of people eating ice cream and cake. When I've checked in with my body I've never received a clear directive to eat something sugary.> > That's why, for the moment I'm staying away from sugar. If I feel like my body is giving me a genuine cue for sugar then I'll really have to look into eating again.> > Or, am I overthinking it? If you're mindful enough, does the desire just leave you.> > Sorry, I know that's a lot, but I'm curious about so many things.> > Thanks,> > Evan> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 I also just want to voice another point of view. I was so SO elated about not having cake and ice cream be forbidden in the beginning. The elation has worn off, but not completely. But even if I eat it every week...AND feel the physical consequences, it's still far more sane than denying myself this treat completely, then eating large amounts accompanied by large amounts of guilt, and hating myself and attempting to repent afterward! Rain From: RainSent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:57 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: RE: Re: Lost the taste for sugar Hi Alana, Thanks for posting that. That is the place that I am hoping to get to! It sounds sane. I want sanity and peace. And I have some, but old fears and compulsions still crop up. Looking forward to 4 years in! From: AlanaSent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:30 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: Lost the taste for sugar Evan,I ditto what says in that your will eventually want the things that make you feel healthy.I don't think I'll ever not what something with sugar. But I don't think it is my body that craves sugar. It is my mind and my emotions. There is something psychological about sugar. I still love ice cream and chocolate. I like the creaminess and coolness of ice cream and love how the chocolate melts in my mouth. Something soothing about these items, especially when I am stressed, overly tired or triggered emotionally. I also think making what emotional connection I have to this food helped tremendously (my Dad and I used to make ice cream sundaes together and equate ice cream to my Dad's love).The difference after doing IE for 4 years is that I don't want it every day. It is an occassional item that I eat in moderation rather than depriving myself because some diet tells me to, then to just binge and overeat on it because I feel deprived and poor-me that I can't eat these items. My body and mind now know that I can have these items when I really want them. But I do think before having them. If I've already had something sweet that day then I might opt for something like fruit instead. I find I make much healthier choices because my body prefers healthy foods. My mind finally got that connection that my body feels good when I eat fruits and vegetables vs. sugary items.Hope this helps.Alana>> I'm just curious. For those of you who have been doing this for a while. Have you eventually lost the taste for sugar?> > In other words, has anyone who had a total sweet tooth, after really listening to what their body wants over a period of time, just become disinterested in sugar?> > Here's another question, while I'm at it. > > The only book I've read on this subject is one of Geneen Roths'. One of her tenants is, "Eat what your body is asking for." Now, that's very different from eat whatever you want. I noticed a lot of people eating ice cream and cake. When I've checked in with my body I've never received a clear directive to eat something sugary.> > That's why, for the moment I'm staying away from sugar. If I feel like my body is giving me a genuine cue for sugar then I'll really have to look into eating again.> > Or, am I overthinking it? If you're mindful enough, does the desire just leave you.> > Sorry, I know that's a lot, but I'm curious about so many things.> > Thanks,> > Evan> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 I also just want to voice another point of view. I was so SO elated about not having cake and ice cream be forbidden in the beginning. The elation has worn off, but not completely. But even if I eat it every week...AND feel the physical consequences, it's still far more sane than denying myself this treat completely, then eating large amounts accompanied by large amounts of guilt, and hating myself and attempting to repent afterward! Rain From: RainSent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:57 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: RE: Re: Lost the taste for sugar Hi Alana, Thanks for posting that. That is the place that I am hoping to get to! It sounds sane. I want sanity and peace. And I have some, but old fears and compulsions still crop up. Looking forward to 4 years in! From: AlanaSent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:30 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: Lost the taste for sugar Evan,I ditto what says in that your will eventually want the things that make you feel healthy.I don't think I'll ever not what something with sugar. But I don't think it is my body that craves sugar. It is my mind and my emotions. There is something psychological about sugar. I still love ice cream and chocolate. I like the creaminess and coolness of ice cream and love how the chocolate melts in my mouth. Something soothing about these items, especially when I am stressed, overly tired or triggered emotionally. I also think making what emotional connection I have to this food helped tremendously (my Dad and I used to make ice cream sundaes together and equate ice cream to my Dad's love).The difference after doing IE for 4 years is that I don't want it every day. It is an occassional item that I eat in moderation rather than depriving myself because some diet tells me to, then to just binge and overeat on it because I feel deprived and poor-me that I can't eat these items. My body and mind now know that I can have these items when I really want them. But I do think before having them. If I've already had something sweet that day then I might opt for something like fruit instead. I find I make much healthier choices because my body prefers healthy foods. My mind finally got that connection that my body feels good when I eat fruits and vegetables vs. sugary items.Hope this helps.Alana>> I'm just curious. For those of you who have been doing this for a while. Have you eventually lost the taste for sugar?> > In other words, has anyone who had a total sweet tooth, after really listening to what their body wants over a period of time, just become disinterested in sugar?> > Here's another question, while I'm at it. > > The only book I've read on this subject is one of Geneen Roths'. One of her tenants is, "Eat what your body is asking for." Now, that's very different from eat whatever you want. I noticed a lot of people eating ice cream and cake. When I've checked in with my body I've never received a clear directive to eat something sugary.> > That's why, for the moment I'm staying away from sugar. If I feel like my body is giving me a genuine cue for sugar then I'll really have to look into eating again.> > Or, am I overthinking it? If you're mindful enough, does the desire just leave you.> > Sorry, I know that's a lot, but I'm curious about so many things.> > Thanks,> > Evan> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 I am sure it is different for every one but I just wanted to add that I actually have lost my cravings for sugar. I have only been doing IE for a little over a year. Last November though I had a huge breakthrough with stuffing myself to stuff down my feelings. I was eating so much I was never actually hungry. I was then about to be ok with feeling hungry and that led naturally to eating more veggies and less " filler items " . I treat fresh strawberries and pineapple as my dessert after a meal. Iam saying all this a show the link between emotions and choices. I ate one bite of key lime pie yesterday and that was enough. It was way too sweet for my palate. So yes you can get to the place where you don't crave sugar. I am not deprived at all. I just replaced the sugar with something my body feels better eating. Good luck in your journey! Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 I am sure it is different for every one but I just wanted to add that I actually have lost my cravings for sugar. I have only been doing IE for a little over a year. Last November though I had a huge breakthrough with stuffing myself to stuff down my feelings. I was eating so much I was never actually hungry. I was then about to be ok with feeling hungry and that led naturally to eating more veggies and less " filler items " . I treat fresh strawberries and pineapple as my dessert after a meal. Iam saying all this a show the link between emotions and choices. I ate one bite of key lime pie yesterday and that was enough. It was way too sweet for my palate. So yes you can get to the place where you don't crave sugar. I am not deprived at all. I just replaced the sugar with something my body feels better eating. Good luck in your journey! Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 I am sure it is different for every one but I just wanted to add that I actually have lost my cravings for sugar. I have only been doing IE for a little over a year. Last November though I had a huge breakthrough with stuffing myself to stuff down my feelings. I was eating so much I was never actually hungry. I was then about to be ok with feeling hungry and that led naturally to eating more veggies and less " filler items " . I treat fresh strawberries and pineapple as my dessert after a meal. Iam saying all this a show the link between emotions and choices. I ate one bite of key lime pie yesterday and that was enough. It was way too sweet for my palate. So yes you can get to the place where you don't crave sugar. I am not deprived at all. I just replaced the sugar with something my body feels better eating. Good luck in your journey! Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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