Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 We just had a major regression with our son. I thought it was the valtrex....but I think it was parasites. He hadn't had visual stims for years.....and they came back with a vengeance.....biting scratching, self injurious behaviors. we started a round of flagyl on friday and he seems to be turning around. In all of my research I have come across Lugol's solution. Another mom said in all the biomed that she had done with her son.....this was the one thing that turned him around. It's 94% water, 2% iodine and 4% potassium iodide. It kills yeast, parasites and bacteria, along with helping many other symptoms. I just gave him his first dose this AM.....and for the first time in 3 weeks he has had a great report from school. Perhaps a coincidence.....but only time will tell. -- Kasey Dettinger ---- jujugirl1971 wrote: > I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > My ?'s are > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it? > > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast? > > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming? > > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try? > > Thank you all, sorry it so long... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 That is so funny! I had been giving him a drop of lugols in purified water. He always says it smells like a pool. But then he started c/o his stomach hurting and would have really explosive loose stools right after. One time I gave him 2 drops and it made him sick- So I stopped giving it orally, and have been just painting a square on his arm. Maybe I should bring it back, something to consider! Thanks! > > I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > > My ?'s are > > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it? > > > > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast? > > > > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming? > > > > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try? > > > > Thank you all, sorry it so long... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 That is so funny! I had been giving him a drop of lugols in purified water. He always says it smells like a pool. But then he started c/o his stomach hurting and would have really explosive loose stools right after. One time I gave him 2 drops and it made him sick- So I stopped giving it orally, and have been just painting a square on his arm. Maybe I should bring it back, something to consider! Thanks! > > I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > > My ?'s are > > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it? > > > > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast? > > > > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming? > > > > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try? > > > > Thank you all, sorry it so long... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Where do you purchase Lugol's solution? Thanks, beth > > I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > > My ?'s are > > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it? > > > > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast? > > > > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming? > > > > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try? > > > > Thank you all, sorry it so long... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 it's killing the bugs.....but just start with 1 drop....and see if it's not so bad... -- Kasey Dettinger ---- jujugirl1971 wrote: > That is so funny! I had been giving him a drop of lugols in purified water. He always says it smells like a pool. But then he started c/o his stomach hurting and would have really explosive loose stools right after. One time I gave him 2 drops and it made him sick- So I stopped giving it orally, and have been just painting a square on his arm. Maybe I should bring it back, something to consider! > Thanks! > > > > > I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > > > My ?'s are > > > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it? > > > > > > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast? > > > > > > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming? > > > > > > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try? > > > > > > Thank you all, sorry it so long... > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 I got it on amazon...there is an iodine group that I recently joined and there is really great info there.... http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine/ http://www.amazon.com/J-Crows-Lugols-Iodine-2-Liquid/dp/B001AEFM9Y -- Kasey Dettinger ---- marybeth wrote: > Where do you purchase Lugol's solution? > Thanks, > beth > > > > > I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > > > My ?'s are > > > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it? > > > > > > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast? > > > > > > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming? > > > > > > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try? > > > > > > Thank you all, sorry it so long... > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Made him sick cause his gut is full of bugs and/or Some need to take it with food. I am guessing if he is a yeasty kid, the first dose caused lots of dieoff. Its fairly swift. You wont need GSE or other things for yeast if you use iodine. The iodine kills and helps remove the bad bacteria, but leaves the good bacteria. Unlike GSE which cant tell the difference. There was a very good explanation on the Iodine board not too long ago how and why Iodine does tell the difference. Iodine has a neutral charge, Iodide a negative charge and the good bacteria have a negative charge. The bad bacteria (and all forgeign substances) have a positive charge. The bad bacteria are attracted to the iodine because of its neutrality and the the iodine kills it. Cheryl > > That is so funny! I had been giving him a drop of lugols in purified water. He always says it smells like a pool. But then he started c/o his stomach hurting and would have really explosive loose stools right after. One time I gave him 2 drops and it made him sick- So I stopped giving it orally, and have been just painting a square on his arm. Maybe I should bring it back, something to consider! > Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Just a thought - but you have SO many anti-candida things, you might have gone a little overboard. With Syntol, you should only use a probiotic that doesn't compete with it. - I used Culturelle with it. I also used Candex. Also, Diflucan is also a yeast killer - a strong one --with Enhansa? Coconut Kefir also has probiotics in it...good ones, but still - you are also using TheraBiotic Complete too... Oxypowder might be killing the probiotics and anything good you are putting in there (because it creates an oxygen rich environment.) and the charcoal is mopping up all sorts of stuff, good and bad... If it were me...I would write down what he is eating, when you are giving him his supplements (and which ones), and what is your take on his overall behavior, etc. -- Because for us, Magnesium for Jimmy given at night, disrupted his sleep. We give mag in the morning, and calcium at dinner. I also noticed when I didn't give him both cal and mag, he wets the bed. -- Because my brother Rob has stims, but his yeast is under control, so I tend to believe it's from something else (we are getting rid of the metals in his mouth) - when I made Rob low ox, after a period of 'dumping' (sandy, cloudy pee and rashes)...his stimming decreased significantly - his eyes got A LOT better. (He can watch TV normally now, he used to watch it out of the corner of his eye.) I think you might have a lot of redundancy going on, and a lot of killing and then trying to repopulate with good microbes only to kill them again... Did your DAN come up with this strategy? laura > > I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > My ?'s are > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it? > > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast? > > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming? > > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try? > > Thank you all, sorry it so long... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Just a thought - but you have SO many anti-candida things, you might have gone a little overboard. With Syntol, you should only use a probiotic that doesn't compete with it. - I used Culturelle with it. I also used Candex. Also, Diflucan is also a yeast killer - a strong one --with Enhansa? Coconut Kefir also has probiotics in it...good ones, but still - you are also using TheraBiotic Complete too... Oxypowder might be killing the probiotics and anything good you are putting in there (because it creates an oxygen rich environment.) and the charcoal is mopping up all sorts of stuff, good and bad... If it were me...I would write down what he is eating, when you are giving him his supplements (and which ones), and what is your take on his overall behavior, etc. -- Because for us, Magnesium for Jimmy given at night, disrupted his sleep. We give mag in the morning, and calcium at dinner. I also noticed when I didn't give him both cal and mag, he wets the bed. -- Because my brother Rob has stims, but his yeast is under control, so I tend to believe it's from something else (we are getting rid of the metals in his mouth) - when I made Rob low ox, after a period of 'dumping' (sandy, cloudy pee and rashes)...his stimming decreased significantly - his eyes got A LOT better. (He can watch TV normally now, he used to watch it out of the corner of his eye.) I think you might have a lot of redundancy going on, and a lot of killing and then trying to repopulate with good microbes only to kill them again... Did your DAN come up with this strategy? laura > > I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > My ?'s are > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it? > > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast? > > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming? > > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try? > > Thank you all, sorry it so long... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 the complete has strep in it and just using that can send a spiral backwards for a PANDAS kid From: laurargoddin Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 11:39 PM To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Yeast Beast Just a thought - but you have SO many anti-candida things, you might have gone a little overboard. With Syntol, you should only use a probiotic that doesn't compete with it. - I used Culturelle with it. I also used Candex. Also, Diflucan is also a yeast killer - a strong one --with Enhansa?Coconut Kefir also has probiotics in it...good ones, but still - you are also using TheraBiotic Complete too...Oxypowder might be killing the probiotics and anything good you are putting in there (because it creates an oxygen rich environment.) and the charcoal is mopping up all sorts of stuff, good and bad...If it were me...I would write down what he is eating, when you are giving him his supplements (and which ones), and what is your take on his overall behavior, etc. -- Because for us, Magnesium for Jimmy given at night, disrupted his sleep. We give mag in the morning, and calcium at dinner. I also noticed when I didn't give him both cal and mag, he wets the bed.-- Because my brother Rob has stims, but his yeast is under control, so I tend to believe it's from something else (we are getting rid of the metals in his mouth) - when I made Rob low ox, after a period of 'dumping' (sandy, cloudy pee and rashes)...his stimming decreased significantly - his eyes got A LOT better. (He can watch TV normally now, he used to watch it out of the corner of his eye.)I think you might have a lot of redundancy going on, and a lot of killing and then trying to repopulate with good microbes only to kill them again... Did your DAN come up with this strategy? laura >> I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > My ?'s are > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it?> > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast?> > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming?> > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try?> > Thank you all, sorry it so long...> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 the complete has strep in it and just using that can send a spiral backwards for a PANDAS kid From: laurargoddin Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 11:39 PM To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Yeast Beast Just a thought - but you have SO many anti-candida things, you might have gone a little overboard. With Syntol, you should only use a probiotic that doesn't compete with it. - I used Culturelle with it. I also used Candex. Also, Diflucan is also a yeast killer - a strong one --with Enhansa?Coconut Kefir also has probiotics in it...good ones, but still - you are also using TheraBiotic Complete too...Oxypowder might be killing the probiotics and anything good you are putting in there (because it creates an oxygen rich environment.) and the charcoal is mopping up all sorts of stuff, good and bad...If it were me...I would write down what he is eating, when you are giving him his supplements (and which ones), and what is your take on his overall behavior, etc. -- Because for us, Magnesium for Jimmy given at night, disrupted his sleep. We give mag in the morning, and calcium at dinner. I also noticed when I didn't give him both cal and mag, he wets the bed.-- Because my brother Rob has stims, but his yeast is under control, so I tend to believe it's from something else (we are getting rid of the metals in his mouth) - when I made Rob low ox, after a period of 'dumping' (sandy, cloudy pee and rashes)...his stimming decreased significantly - his eyes got A LOT better. (He can watch TV normally now, he used to watch it out of the corner of his eye.)I think you might have a lot of redundancy going on, and a lot of killing and then trying to repopulate with good microbes only to kill them again... Did your DAN come up with this strategy? laura >> I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > My ?'s are > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it?> > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast?> > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming?> > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try?> > Thank you all, sorry it so long...> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 the complete has strep in it and just using that can send a spiral backwards for a PANDAS kid From: laurargoddin Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 11:39 PM To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Yeast Beast Just a thought - but you have SO many anti-candida things, you might have gone a little overboard. With Syntol, you should only use a probiotic that doesn't compete with it. - I used Culturelle with it. I also used Candex. Also, Diflucan is also a yeast killer - a strong one --with Enhansa?Coconut Kefir also has probiotics in it...good ones, but still - you are also using TheraBiotic Complete too...Oxypowder might be killing the probiotics and anything good you are putting in there (because it creates an oxygen rich environment.) and the charcoal is mopping up all sorts of stuff, good and bad...If it were me...I would write down what he is eating, when you are giving him his supplements (and which ones), and what is your take on his overall behavior, etc. -- Because for us, Magnesium for Jimmy given at night, disrupted his sleep. We give mag in the morning, and calcium at dinner. I also noticed when I didn't give him both cal and mag, he wets the bed.-- Because my brother Rob has stims, but his yeast is under control, so I tend to believe it's from something else (we are getting rid of the metals in his mouth) - when I made Rob low ox, after a period of 'dumping' (sandy, cloudy pee and rashes)...his stimming decreased significantly - his eyes got A LOT better. (He can watch TV normally now, he used to watch it out of the corner of his eye.)I think you might have a lot of redundancy going on, and a lot of killing and then trying to repopulate with good microbes only to kill them again... Did your DAN come up with this strategy? laura >> I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > My ?'s are > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it?> > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast?> > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming?> > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try?> > Thank you all, sorry it so long...> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Biting and self injury/aggression can also be from PANDAS (strep). You should familarize yourself with the PANDAS symptoms cause t can get worse w/ each exposure if not treated. www.pandasnetwork.org > I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > My ?'s are > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it?> > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast?> > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming?> > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try?> > Thank you all, sorry it so long...> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Biting and self injury/aggression can also be from PANDAS (strep). You should familarize yourself with the PANDAS symptoms cause t can get worse w/ each exposure if not treated. www.pandasnetwork.org > I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > My ?'s are > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it?> > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast?> > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming?> > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try?> > Thank you all, sorry it so long...> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Biting and self injury/aggression can also be from PANDAS (strep). You should familarize yourself with the PANDAS symptoms cause t can get worse w/ each exposure if not treated. www.pandasnetwork.org > I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > My ?'s are > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it?> > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast?> > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming?> > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try?> > Thank you all, sorry it so long...> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 I agree I am not sure stimming if from yeast....maybe a way for them to deal with the way the yeast is making them feel. And you do have a lot of yeast fighters....may really be feeling it! -- Kasey Dettinger ---- laurargoddin wrote: > Just a thought - but you have SO many anti-candida things, you might have gone a little overboard. > > With Syntol, you should only use a probiotic that doesn't compete with it. - I used Culturelle with it. I also used Candex. > > Also, Diflucan is also a yeast killer - a strong one --with Enhansa? > > Coconut Kefir also has probiotics in it...good ones, but still - you are also using TheraBiotic Complete too... > > Oxypowder might be killing the probiotics and anything good you are putting in there (because it creates an oxygen rich environment.) > > and the charcoal is mopping up all sorts of stuff, good and bad... > > If it were me...I would write down what he is eating, when you are giving him his supplements (and which ones), and what is your take on his overall behavior, etc. -- Because for us, Magnesium for Jimmy given at night, disrupted his sleep. We give mag in the morning, and calcium at dinner. I also noticed when I didn't give him both cal and mag, he wets the bed. > > -- Because my brother Rob has stims, but his yeast is under control, so I tend to believe it's from something else (we are getting rid of the metals in his mouth) - when I made Rob low ox, after a period of 'dumping' (sandy, cloudy pee and rashes)...his stimming decreased significantly - his eyes got A LOT better. (He can watch TV normally now, he used to watch it out of the corner of his eye.) > > I think you might have a lot of redundancy going on, and a lot of killing and then trying to repopulate with good microbes only to kill them again... > > Did your DAN come up with this strategy? > > laura > > > > > > > I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > > My ?'s are > > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it? > > > > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast? > > > > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming? > > > > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try? > > > > Thank you all, sorry it so long... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Look Cheryl....you have me touting iodine already -- Kasey Dettinger ---- Cheryl wrote: > Made him sick cause his gut is full of bugs and/or Some need to take it with food. I am guessing if he is a yeasty kid, the first dose caused lots of dieoff. Its fairly swift. > > You wont need GSE or other things for yeast if you use iodine. The iodine kills and helps remove the bad bacteria, but leaves the good bacteria. Unlike GSE which cant tell the difference. > > There was a very good explanation on the Iodine board not too long ago how and why Iodine does tell the difference. > > Iodine has a neutral charge, Iodide a negative charge and the good bacteria have a negative charge. The bad bacteria (and all forgeign substances) have a positive charge. The bad bacteria are attracted to the iodine because of its neutrality and the the iodine kills it. > > Cheryl > > > > > > That is so funny! I had been giving him a drop of lugols in purified water. He always says it smells like a pool. But then he started c/o his stomach hurting and would have really explosive loose stools right after. One time I gave him 2 drops and it made him sick- So I stopped giving it orally, and have been just painting a square on his arm. Maybe I should bring it back, something to consider! > > Thanks! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Look Cheryl....you have me touting iodine already -- Kasey Dettinger ---- Cheryl wrote: > Made him sick cause his gut is full of bugs and/or Some need to take it with food. I am guessing if he is a yeasty kid, the first dose caused lots of dieoff. Its fairly swift. > > You wont need GSE or other things for yeast if you use iodine. The iodine kills and helps remove the bad bacteria, but leaves the good bacteria. Unlike GSE which cant tell the difference. > > There was a very good explanation on the Iodine board not too long ago how and why Iodine does tell the difference. > > Iodine has a neutral charge, Iodide a negative charge and the good bacteria have a negative charge. The bad bacteria (and all forgeign substances) have a positive charge. The bad bacteria are attracted to the iodine because of its neutrality and the the iodine kills it. > > Cheryl > > > > > > That is so funny! I had been giving him a drop of lugols in purified water. He always says it smells like a pool. But then he started c/o his stomach hurting and would have really explosive loose stools right after. One time I gave him 2 drops and it made him sick- So I stopped giving it orally, and have been just painting a square on his arm. Maybe I should bring it back, something to consider! > > Thanks! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Kasey I guess that means you are now an official member of an elite club that will effect real change to the health of mankind and you didnt need billion$ to do it. Cheryl > > Look Cheryl....you have me touting iodine already > -- > Kasey Dettinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Hi all! thanks for the great input! He does have tremendous yeast, but the stimming is worse when he has die off. Like he needs to stim when he feels bad. STimming goes away with charcoal. If I did not give the oxypowder he would not poop out what I have killed so it would get backed up, and maybe reabsorbed. I wonder if he has a virus too this week. Anyway I got some awesome suggestions. I just bought Custom Probiotics D-lactate free I thought that would be a good one with the Syntol and Candex. I do the charcoal away from his meds an hour plus, and digestive enzymes away from probiotics. Dr. Megson is my DAN she is great, she said stimms is from yeast. For us, stimming is from the yeast and its die off mainly. Megson said I could do all this, just to watch titrate to effect. She does not return my phones as often as I would like, but seems to have a lot of faith in me- good or bad. Do you think I should stop the enhansa? We are at the full dose now and have seen a bunch of gains? I did like your info on Syntol because we saw a bunch of gains with it. Do you do low ox diet with your kids or the feingold? Thanks for your help > > > > I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > > My ?'s are > > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it? > > > > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast? > > > > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming? > > > > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try? > > > > Thank you all, sorry it so long... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Kasey,keep us posted. I've got some on the way....-TammyTo: mb12 valtrex Cc: jujugirl1971 Sent: Tue, February 8, 2011 9:56:40 PMSubject: Re: Yeast Beast We just had a major regression with our son. I thought it was the valtrex....but I think it was parasites. He hadn't had visual stims for years.....and they came back with a vengeance.....biting scratching, self injurious behaviors. we started a round of flagyl on friday and he seems to be turning around. In all of my research I have come across Lugol's solution. Another mom said in all the biomed that she had done with her son.....this was the one thing that turned him around. It's 94% water, 2% iodine and 4% potassium iodide. It kills yeast, parasites and bacteria, along with helping many other symptoms. I just gave him his first dose this AM.....and for the first time in 3 weeks he has had a great report from school. Perhaps a coincidence.....but only time will tell. -- Kasey Dettinger ---- jujugirl1971 wrote: > I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > My ?'s are > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it? > > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast? > > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming? > > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try? > > Thank you all, sorry it so long... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Kasey,keep us posted. I've got some on the way....-TammyTo: mb12 valtrex Cc: jujugirl1971 Sent: Tue, February 8, 2011 9:56:40 PMSubject: Re: Yeast Beast We just had a major regression with our son. I thought it was the valtrex....but I think it was parasites. He hadn't had visual stims for years.....and they came back with a vengeance.....biting scratching, self injurious behaviors. we started a round of flagyl on friday and he seems to be turning around. In all of my research I have come across Lugol's solution. Another mom said in all the biomed that she had done with her son.....this was the one thing that turned him around. It's 94% water, 2% iodine and 4% potassium iodide. It kills yeast, parasites and bacteria, along with helping many other symptoms. I just gave him his first dose this AM.....and for the first time in 3 weeks he has had a great report from school. Perhaps a coincidence.....but only time will tell. -- Kasey Dettinger ---- jujugirl1971 wrote: > I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > My ?'s are > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it? > > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast? > > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming? > > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try? > > Thank you all, sorry it so long... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Kasey,keep us posted. I've got some on the way....-TammyTo: mb12 valtrex Cc: jujugirl1971 Sent: Tue, February 8, 2011 9:56:40 PMSubject: Re: Yeast Beast We just had a major regression with our son. I thought it was the valtrex....but I think it was parasites. He hadn't had visual stims for years.....and they came back with a vengeance.....biting scratching, self injurious behaviors. we started a round of flagyl on friday and he seems to be turning around. In all of my research I have come across Lugol's solution. Another mom said in all the biomed that she had done with her son.....this was the one thing that turned him around. It's 94% water, 2% iodine and 4% potassium iodide. It kills yeast, parasites and bacteria, along with helping many other symptoms. I just gave him his first dose this AM.....and for the first time in 3 weeks he has had a great report from school. Perhaps a coincidence.....but only time will tell. -- Kasey Dettinger ---- jujugirl1971 wrote: > I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > My ?'s are > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it? > > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast? > > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming? > > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try? > > Thank you all, sorry it so long... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Some of us have to rotate prescription anti-fungals. A couple months of Diflucan then rotate to Keto then rotate to Amphoceterin, etc. Also sometimes we have to add in Nystatin to this rotation. Also, Valtrex kicks up Yeast so unless you are seeing gains from it you might consider dropping it. Also high dose probiotics. Pamela From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of jujugirl1971Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:41 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Yeast Beast I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. My ?'s are 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it?2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast?3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming?4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try?Thank you all, sorry it so long... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Some of us have to rotate prescription anti-fungals. A couple months of Diflucan then rotate to Keto then rotate to Amphoceterin, etc. Also sometimes we have to add in Nystatin to this rotation. Also, Valtrex kicks up Yeast so unless you are seeing gains from it you might consider dropping it. Also high dose probiotics. Pamela From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of jujugirl1971Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:41 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Yeast Beast I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. My ?'s are 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it?2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast?3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming?4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try?Thank you all, sorry it so long... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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