Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Some of us have to rotate prescription anti-fungals. A couple months of Diflucan then rotate to Keto then rotate to Amphoceterin, etc. Also sometimes we have to add in Nystatin to this rotation. Also, Valtrex kicks up Yeast so unless you are seeing gains from it you might consider dropping it. Also high dose probiotics. Pamela From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of jujugirl1971Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:41 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Yeast Beast I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. My ?'s are 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it?2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast?3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming?4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try?Thank you all, sorry it so long... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Had massive gins on diflucan alone years ago, terrible regression on valtrex along with diflucan recently. Would that mean you would recommend dropping the valtrex? Was under the impression that a regression on valtrex was good, ie die-off, indicating that his system does have a viral problem. To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 5:19:39Subject: RE: Yeast Beast Some of us have to rotate prescription anti-fungals. A couple months of Diflucan then rotate to Keto then rotate to Amphoceterin, etc. Also sometimes we have to add in Nystatin to this rotation. Also, Valtrex kicks up Yeast so unless you are seeing gains from it you might consider dropping it. Also high dose probiotics. Pamela From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of jujugirl1971Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:41 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Yeast Beast I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. My ?'s are 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it?2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast?3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming?4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try?Thank you all, sorry it so long... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Had massive gins on diflucan alone years ago, terrible regression on valtrex along with diflucan recently. Would that mean you would recommend dropping the valtrex? Was under the impression that a regression on valtrex was good, ie die-off, indicating that his system does have a viral problem. To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 5:19:39Subject: RE: Yeast Beast Some of us have to rotate prescription anti-fungals. A couple months of Diflucan then rotate to Keto then rotate to Amphoceterin, etc. Also sometimes we have to add in Nystatin to this rotation. Also, Valtrex kicks up Yeast so unless you are seeing gains from it you might consider dropping it. Also high dose probiotics. Pamela From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of jujugirl1971Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:41 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Yeast Beast I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. My ?'s are 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it?2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast?3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming?4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try?Thank you all, sorry it so long... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Had massive gins on diflucan alone years ago, terrible regression on valtrex along with diflucan recently. Would that mean you would recommend dropping the valtrex? Was under the impression that a regression on valtrex was good, ie die-off, indicating that his system does have a viral problem. To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 5:19:39Subject: RE: Yeast Beast Some of us have to rotate prescription anti-fungals. A couple months of Diflucan then rotate to Keto then rotate to Amphoceterin, etc. Also sometimes we have to add in Nystatin to this rotation. Also, Valtrex kicks up Yeast so unless you are seeing gains from it you might consider dropping it. Also high dose probiotics. Pamela From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of jujugirl1971Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:41 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Yeast Beast I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. My ?'s are 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it?2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast?3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming?4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try?Thank you all, sorry it so long... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 How do you know that you need to change anti fungals? Also how long do you stay on them total?To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, February 9, 2011 4:19:39 PMSubject: RE: Yeast Beast Some of us have to rotate prescription anti-fungals. A couple months of Diflucan then rotate to Keto then rotate to Amphoceterin, etc. Also sometimes we have to add in Nystatin to this rotation. Also, Valtrex kicks up Yeast so unless you are seeing gains from it you might consider dropping it. Also high dose probiotics. Pamela From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of jujugirl1971Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:41 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Yeast Beast I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. My ?'s are 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it?2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast?3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming?4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try?Thank you all, sorry it so long... Be a PS3 game guru.Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 How do you know that you need to change anti fungals? Also how long do you stay on them total?To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, February 9, 2011 4:19:39 PMSubject: RE: Yeast Beast Some of us have to rotate prescription anti-fungals. A couple months of Diflucan then rotate to Keto then rotate to Amphoceterin, etc. Also sometimes we have to add in Nystatin to this rotation. Also, Valtrex kicks up Yeast so unless you are seeing gains from it you might consider dropping it. Also high dose probiotics. Pamela From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of jujugirl1971Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:41 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Yeast Beast I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. My ?'s are 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it?2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast?3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming?4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try?Thank you all, sorry it so long... Be a PS3 game guru.Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 How do you know that you need to change anti fungals? Also how long do you stay on them total?To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, February 9, 2011 4:19:39 PMSubject: RE: Yeast Beast Some of us have to rotate prescription anti-fungals. A couple months of Diflucan then rotate to Keto then rotate to Amphoceterin, etc. Also sometimes we have to add in Nystatin to this rotation. Also, Valtrex kicks up Yeast so unless you are seeing gains from it you might consider dropping it. Also high dose probiotics. Pamela From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of jujugirl1971Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:41 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Yeast Beast I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. My ?'s are 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it?2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast?3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming?4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try?Thank you all, sorry it so long... Be a PS3 game guru.Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 We actually do 'both' Feingold and Low Ox. IT severely limits a lot of things..however, that being said, my kids are doing great. Now if I could just figure out how to get the foods back in -- without the bad effect...I would be recovered completely... ah..so close.. Syntol is actually a probiotic (along with a yeast killer) -- so I only did Syntol w/Culturelle (since Lacto GG doesn't colonize, simply helps get rid of the bad stuff.) If you are seeing gains - then stay the course! (Enhansa) We were able to combat the high oxalate stuff that caused a lot of 'undesirable' behavior with calcium citrate, magnesium and zinc. Taken 20 minutes prior to the high oxalate things. laura > > > > > > I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > > > My ?'s are > > > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it? > > > > > > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast? > > > > > > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming? > > > > > > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try? > > > > > > Thank you all, sorry it so long... > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 We actually do 'both' Feingold and Low Ox. IT severely limits a lot of things..however, that being said, my kids are doing great. Now if I could just figure out how to get the foods back in -- without the bad effect...I would be recovered completely... ah..so close.. Syntol is actually a probiotic (along with a yeast killer) -- so I only did Syntol w/Culturelle (since Lacto GG doesn't colonize, simply helps get rid of the bad stuff.) If you are seeing gains - then stay the course! (Enhansa) We were able to combat the high oxalate stuff that caused a lot of 'undesirable' behavior with calcium citrate, magnesium and zinc. Taken 20 minutes prior to the high oxalate things. laura > > > > > > I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > > > My ?'s are > > > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it? > > > > > > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast? > > > > > > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming? > > > > > > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try? > > > > > > Thank you all, sorry it so long... > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 We actually do 'both' Feingold and Low Ox. IT severely limits a lot of things..however, that being said, my kids are doing great. Now if I could just figure out how to get the foods back in -- without the bad effect...I would be recovered completely... ah..so close.. Syntol is actually a probiotic (along with a yeast killer) -- so I only did Syntol w/Culturelle (since Lacto GG doesn't colonize, simply helps get rid of the bad stuff.) If you are seeing gains - then stay the course! (Enhansa) We were able to combat the high oxalate stuff that caused a lot of 'undesirable' behavior with calcium citrate, magnesium and zinc. Taken 20 minutes prior to the high oxalate things. laura > > > > > > I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > > > My ?'s are > > > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it? > > > > > > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast? > > > > > > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming? > > > > > > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try? > > > > > > Thank you all, sorry it so long... > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 , So you give all 3 (cal/mag/zinc) together before high ox foods? I've only been giving cal citrate before meals (mag and zinc in morning + extra mag at night). Since the calcium is used to bind with the oxalate, should I assume that the calcium given before meals is not being absorbed? Just wondering if I should be giving extra calcium away from meals to make sure their bodies are actually absorbing enough calcium throughout the day. Thanks. - Kirk- To: mb12 valtrex From: laurargoddin@...Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 01:28:14 +0000Subject: Re: Yeast Beast We actually do 'both' Feingold and Low Ox. IT severely limits a lot of things..however, that being said, my kids are doing great. Now if I could just figure out how to get the foods back in -- without the bad effect...I would be recovered completely... ah..so close.. Syntol is actually a probiotic (along with a yeast killer) -- so I only did Syntol w/Culturelle (since Lacto GG doesn't colonize, simply helps get rid of the bad stuff.) If you are seeing gains - then stay the course! (Enhansa) We were able to combat the high oxalate stuff that caused a lot of 'undesirable' behavior with calcium citrate, magnesium and zinc. Taken 20 minutes prior to the high oxalate things. laura > > >> > > I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > > > My ?'s are > > > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it?> > > > > > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast?> > > > > > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming?> > > > > > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try?> > > > > > Thank you all, sorry it so long...> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 , So you give all 3 (cal/mag/zinc) together before high ox foods? I've only been giving cal citrate before meals (mag and zinc in morning + extra mag at night). Since the calcium is used to bind with the oxalate, should I assume that the calcium given before meals is not being absorbed? Just wondering if I should be giving extra calcium away from meals to make sure their bodies are actually absorbing enough calcium throughout the day. Thanks. - Kirk- To: mb12 valtrex From: laurargoddin@...Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 01:28:14 +0000Subject: Re: Yeast Beast We actually do 'both' Feingold and Low Ox. IT severely limits a lot of things..however, that being said, my kids are doing great. Now if I could just figure out how to get the foods back in -- without the bad effect...I would be recovered completely... ah..so close.. Syntol is actually a probiotic (along with a yeast killer) -- so I only did Syntol w/Culturelle (since Lacto GG doesn't colonize, simply helps get rid of the bad stuff.) If you are seeing gains - then stay the course! (Enhansa) We were able to combat the high oxalate stuff that caused a lot of 'undesirable' behavior with calcium citrate, magnesium and zinc. Taken 20 minutes prior to the high oxalate things. laura > > >> > > I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > > > My ?'s are > > > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it?> > > > > > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast?> > > > > > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming?> > > > > > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try?> > > > > > Thank you all, sorry it so long...> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 , So you give all 3 (cal/mag/zinc) together before high ox foods? I've only been giving cal citrate before meals (mag and zinc in morning + extra mag at night). Since the calcium is used to bind with the oxalate, should I assume that the calcium given before meals is not being absorbed? Just wondering if I should be giving extra calcium away from meals to make sure their bodies are actually absorbing enough calcium throughout the day. Thanks. - Kirk- To: mb12 valtrex From: laurargoddin@...Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 01:28:14 +0000Subject: Re: Yeast Beast We actually do 'both' Feingold and Low Ox. IT severely limits a lot of things..however, that being said, my kids are doing great. Now if I could just figure out how to get the foods back in -- without the bad effect...I would be recovered completely... ah..so close.. Syntol is actually a probiotic (along with a yeast killer) -- so I only did Syntol w/Culturelle (since Lacto GG doesn't colonize, simply helps get rid of the bad stuff.) If you are seeing gains - then stay the course! (Enhansa) We were able to combat the high oxalate stuff that caused a lot of 'undesirable' behavior with calcium citrate, magnesium and zinc. Taken 20 minutes prior to the high oxalate things. laura > > >> > > I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > > > My ?'s are > > > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it?> > > > > > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast?> > > > > > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming?> > > > > > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try?> > > > > > Thank you all, sorry it so long...> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 No. Only Calcium before hi ox foods - I give the other away from eating (if that makes sense) so that the body can get the calcium/mag and zinc it needs... Since splitting them up, I've noticed a huge difference. Also, I noticed when I forgot to give these things, he wets the bed. (I have a chart!) It's very obvious for us. :)laura > > > > > > > > I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > > > > My ?'s are > > > > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it? > > > > > > > > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast? > > > > > > > > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming? > > > > > > > > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try? > > > > > > > > Thank you all, sorry it so long... > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 Thanks ! So, do you also give a different calcium w/ Vit D at another time of day, or is calcium always before meals, and then mag and zinc at other times? Sorry for my confusion. - Kirk- To: mb12 valtrex From: laurargoddin@...Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:35:07 +0000Subject: Re: Yeast Beast No. Only Calcium before hi ox foods - I give the other away from eating (if that makes sense) so that the body can get the calcium/mag and zinc it needs... Since splitting them up, I've noticed a huge difference. Also, I noticed when I forgot to give these things, he wets the bed. (I have a chart!) It's very obvious for us. :)laura> > > >> > > > I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > > > > My ?'s are > > > > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it?> > > > > > > > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast?> > > > > > > > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming?> > > > > > > > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try?> > > > > > > > Thank you all, sorry it so long...> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 Hey , no, I give Calcium Citrate. I found that works for him. (He also gets a lot of calcium from the 'green' juicer drinks I make for him) - For Vitamin D - I give D3 (Rainbow Light Lemon) Let me try to simplify it - IN the AM: I give D3 and Zinc (25mg) before Breakfast (we wake up around 6am)w/water or a very small glass of pineapple/water juice. (4oz) I make them a juicer drink (lots of greens - low ox usually, if not, instead of zinc, I give Calcium citrate, and then I add a random zinc to their juice in the day) We have breakfast around 8am (very large) Around 10am I give Mag (Naturally Calm) Around 11:30 they start to get hungry again, I usually give a small snack - like crackers and hummus, some fruit or cut veggies, or some sort of muffin, etc. Around 2:30 they get what I call 'lunch' -- which is some sort of protein and some carb (like rice/pasta/beans/potatoe) Small juicer drink around 3:30 (carrot/apple)- 4-6 oz. (20 min before I give a cal citrate in 2oz of juice) (Sometimes I will throw in another zinc or other vitamins/supplements I feel like they need, I don't give everything everyday.) Dinner is around 5:30-6pm. They eat a very small dinner. They tend to just eat the veggies - so I tend to make them large portions of that. (I offer some meat, and some carb, but RARELY do they actually eat it.) Bedtime they get their probiotic (Syntol) before bed in some juice of choice. They go to sleep at 7:30 (I'm pretty clockwork) The only thing I will change is if they didn't have a BM (which is rare, I will give digestive enzymes at each meal the next day.) I also add other things based on their eating habits of that day. I hope this helps..let me know if I missed something.. laura > > > > > > > > > > I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > > > > > My ?'s are > > > > > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it? > > > > > > > > > > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast? > > > > > > > > > > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming? > > > > > > > > > > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try? > > > > > > > > > > Thank you all, sorry it so long... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 Thanks for all the detail! I appreciate it! I guess the only question I still have is about the cal citrate given before meals. Should I assume that most of this is not getting absorbed since it is binding to the oxalate? And do you only give cal citrate before higher-ox meals and not lower ones? Just wondering if I should not count those doses towards their daily calcium needs. Thanks again (and sorry for all the questions)! - Kirk- To: mb12 valtrex From: laurargoddin@...Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:19:51 +0000Subject: Re: Yeast Beast Hey , no, I give Calcium Citrate. I found that works for him. (He also gets a lot of calcium from the 'green' juicer drinks I make for him) - For Vitamin D - I give D3 (Rainbow Light Lemon)Let me try to simplify it - IN the AM: I give D3 and Zinc (25mg) before Breakfast (we wake up around 6am)w/water or a very small glass of pineapple/water juice. (4oz)I make them a juicer drink (lots of greens - low ox usually, if not, instead of zinc, I give Calcium citrate, and then I add a random zinc to their juice in the day)We have breakfast around 8am (very large)Around 10am I give Mag (Naturally Calm)Around 11:30 they start to get hungry again, I usually give a small snack - like crackers and hummus, some fruit or cut veggies, or some sort of muffin, etc.Around 2:30 they get what I call 'lunch' -- which is some sort of protein and some carb (like rice/pasta/beans/potatoe)Small juicer drink around 3:30 (carrot/apple)- 4-6 oz. (20 min before I give a cal citrate in 2oz of juice)(Sometimes I will throw in another zinc or other vitamins/supplements I feel like they need, I don't give everything everyday.)Dinner is around 5:30-6pm. They eat a very small dinner. They tend to just eat the veggies - so I tend to make them large portions of that. (I offer some meat, and some carb, but RARELY do they actually eat it.) Bedtime they get their probiotic (Syntol) before bed in some juice of choice. They go to sleep at 7:30 (I'm pretty clockwork) The only thing I will change is if they didn't have a BM (which is rare, I will give digestive enzymes at each meal the next day.) I also add other things based on their eating habits of that day. I hope this helps..let me know if I missed something.. laura > > > > >> > > > > I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > > > > > My ?'s are > > > > > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it?> > > > > > > > > > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast?> > > > > > > > > > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming?> > > > > > > > > > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try?> > > > > > > > > > Thank you all, sorry it so long...> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 Yeah, we tend to eat low ox at meals...My juicer drinks tend to be the high ox ones. But if it's a super high ox meal - yes, he gets calcium too. And I'm not sure. Honestly, I tend to believe that he's getting enough calcium based on what feed him and the addition of the calcium. When he doesn't get enough calcium (or I should think about giving him significantly more) he will get a small rash on his face (great overt detection system!) from the oxalate. This tells me that he's not getting enough. Does that make sense? (Sometimes I make sense to myself but nobody else!) lol laura > > > > > > > > > > > > I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > > > > > > My ?'s are > > > > > > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it? > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast? > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming? > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you all, sorry it so long... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 Yep - makes perfect sense! Thanks! - Kirk- To: mb12 valtrex From: laurargoddin@...Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:37:11 +0000Subject: Re: Yeast Beast Yeah, we tend to eat low ox at meals...My juicer drinks tend to be the high ox ones. But if it's a super high ox meal - yes, he gets calcium too. And I'm not sure. Honestly, I tend to believe that he's getting enough calcium based on what feed him and the addition of the calcium. When he doesn't get enough calcium (or I should think about giving him significantly more) he will get a small rash on his face (great overt detection system!) from the oxalate. This tells me that he's not getting enough. Does that make sense? (Sometimes I make sense to myself but nobody else!) lol laura > > > > > >> > > > > > I need to see if anyone has any other recommendations, I am really at a lost. We are on an extremely low sugar diet (very watery juice so he can choke down his enhansa) GSE, Diflucan, Valtrex, brain child nutritional herbs rotated, charcoal to mop up die off, oxypowder- for the constipation from charcoal, Enhansa, no phenol, digestive enzymes, probiotics- Klaire's complete, Syntol, Interface, Kirkman yeast aid, Bethanechol, coconut oil 1 tsp, cocokefir- just started, Aqua Forte- homepathic anticandida product, etc... It all started with the GSE, more than a drop caused visual stimming (he stares at his hands really close.) The die off was so strong, I gave 2 charcoal and oxypowder but when I gave additional GSE throughout the day he was stimming at school. So now I do just 1 drop of GSE in the afternoon and charcoal an hour later for die off. Also thought maybe the coconut oil is a bit to strong? Had a tsp with breakfast, and added one with lunch? Therapist said he was off today, and we were sick all weekend with the flu. Also started the Coconut Kefir, using a product cocokefir and I have been on a tsp for a week, added another b/c we are suppose to get up to a cup daily eventually. My question is this, I was told his stimming was from the yeast die off, and to use charcoal. It has worked, but I can not always give charcoal b/c I just gave something I want him to absorb and/or he is at school, or we are out and about and I do not have charcoal. He stims when he is bored too, his stimming is not nearly as strong as last year when I did not have a clue what I was really doing. I am amazed how hard I am struggling with all of this. Like learning a new language for me, everytime I think I get what is going on with him, something different happens. Today he was stimming by looking out of the corner of his eye turning his head sideways walking back forth from the kitchen counter. What else could I be doing for yeast? By the way, the more yeast I kill the better his eventual gains. So even though I kill the yeast, and he then stims more, after charcoal, or even GabbaMag cream he is more improved then earlier. So I have to kill the yeast, which cause him to stim more, almost compulsively, yet the gains are greater. He will eventually have vision therapy when he turns 5 this summer. He is in prism lenses which help him not to stim as much. He has issues with his ears and loud sounds. So he is a really yeasty kid, unable to swallow pills- will chew them though. Vitamin A did not help us until we got up to 10,000 units but we had massive nose bleeds, like I could have taken him to the ER. We do CLO and DHA. Anyway, any help would be great. We just finished Auditory integration therapy for 16 weeks, and NAET for 12 weeks. > > > > > > My ?'s are > > > > > > 1) someone mentioned Cold therapy for yeast, is anyone doing it?> > > > > > > > > > > > 2) How about Colostrum, I heard that helps yeast?> > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Anyone have problems with Coconut kefir and stimming?> > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Are there any other natural antifungals I should try?> > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you all, sorry it so long...> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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