Re: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism.

[Guest guest]

I think the relationship between parasites and our kids is that our kids have atypical immune systems that don't work properly and when something that shouldn't be there enters the body, the immune system doesn't act appropriately and instead, chooses to react to foods and other benign things -- almost wastes all kinds of resources for the sake of reacting to foods but does nothing when worms enter the system...it's that the immune system almost sees them as " friendlies " and doesn't (or cannot) fight them off.

If we are able to fix their immune systems, then the worms, metals, metabolism, viral issues, bacteria, yeast, etc. would be resolved.   

 

My son has been on antibiotics for 3 years -- not a popular decision, but it has been great for him.

Now that we discoverd the worms in my son, I am starting to wonder if all of our kids have worms and that bacteria, viruses and metals are all inside the worms. Each kid is different based on what pathogens they have had in life that is still inside the worms. Every time we kill the worms.

So maybe my kid does well on antibiotics, yours on chelation and hers on anti-virals. BUT, maybe all of our kids would get better if we just killed the worms.

I believe this is somewhat Hulda e's theory, but it is starting to make more sense to me. For years, I was sure my son did not have worms, then finally I found them.

Caryn

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> There is not a single answer for all kids with autism.  If it was that easy, they all would have been better by now.  Just to set the record straight I am not in cahoots with Dr. Goldberg.  He did recover my son and for that I will always be grateful.  But sometimes I dread going to his office because of his personality and bedside manner. 

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> I am surprised that you would attack me that way when you never even met me.  The only reason I am here is to help other kids get better.  I understand the anger we have cause our children are sick, I was angry too.  As a matter of fact I’m still angry because there are so many out there taking advantage of our fear and desperation to help our children.

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> Mine is recovered and in college.  I don’t need to search for answers anymore.   I once made a promise to God that if you make mine better, I will make them all better.  I would like nothing more than to retire.  I don’t need to do this anymore.  And I would enjoy spending my days going out to lunch, reading books and doing what I want rather than answering posts like yours. 

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> I’m thrilled chelation helped your kiddo but are you sure that it was chelation and not something else you were doing at the same time?  And are you sure of the long term effects of chelating?  Dr. Goldberg (who at times I don’t even like) said there is proof on brain spects that show the damage chelating does.  I may not like his antics but he did recover Stan’s son and help Cheryl’s tremendously.  So maybe you should look into it.  I would go to the devil himself if it would save my kid

[Guest guest]

I think the relationship between parasites and our kids is that our kids have atypical immune systems that don't work properly and when something that shouldn't be there enters the body, the immune system doesn't act appropriately and instead, chooses to react to foods and other benign things -- almost wastes all kinds of resources for the sake of reacting to foods but does nothing when worms enter the system...it's that the immune system almost sees them as " friendlies " and doesn't (or cannot) fight them off.

If we are able to fix their immune systems, then the worms, metals, metabolism, viral issues, bacteria, yeast, etc. would be resolved.   

 

My son has been on antibiotics for 3 years -- not a popular decision, but it has been great for him.

Now that we discoverd the worms in my son, I am starting to wonder if all of our kids have worms and that bacteria, viruses and metals are all inside the worms. Each kid is different based on what pathogens they have had in life that is still inside the worms. Every time we kill the worms.

So maybe my kid does well on antibiotics, yours on chelation and hers on anti-virals. BUT, maybe all of our kids would get better if we just killed the worms.

I believe this is somewhat Hulda e's theory, but it is starting to make more sense to me. For years, I was sure my son did not have worms, then finally I found them.

Caryn

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> There is not a single answer for all kids with autism.  If it was that easy, they all would have been better by now.  Just to set the record straight I am not in cahoots with Dr. Goldberg.  He did recover my son and for that I will always be grateful.  But sometimes I dread going to his office because of his personality and bedside manner. 

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> I am surprised that you would attack me that way when you never even met me.  The only reason I am here is to help other kids get better.  I understand the anger we have cause our children are sick, I was angry too.  As a matter of fact I’m still angry because there are so many out there taking advantage of our fear and desperation to help our children.

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> Mine is recovered and in college.  I don’t need to search for answers anymore.   I once made a promise to God that if you make mine better, I will make them all better.  I would like nothing more than to retire.  I don’t need to do this anymore.  And I would enjoy spending my days going out to lunch, reading books and doing what I want rather than answering posts like yours. 

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> I’m thrilled chelation helped your kiddo but are you sure that it was chelation and not something else you were doing at the same time?  And are you sure of the long term effects of chelating?  Dr. Goldberg (who at times I don’t even like) said there is proof on brain spects that show the damage chelating does.  I may not like his antics but he did recover Stan’s son and help Cheryl’s tremendously.  So maybe you should look into it.  I would go to the devil himself if it would save my kid

[Guest guest]

I think the relationship between parasites and our kids is that our kids have atypical immune systems that don't work properly and when something that shouldn't be there enters the body, the immune system doesn't act appropriately and instead, chooses to react to foods and other benign things -- almost wastes all kinds of resources for the sake of reacting to foods but does nothing when worms enter the system...it's that the immune system almost sees them as " friendlies " and doesn't (or cannot) fight them off.

If we are able to fix their immune systems, then the worms, metals, metabolism, viral issues, bacteria, yeast, etc. would be resolved.   

 

My son has been on antibiotics for 3 years -- not a popular decision, but it has been great for him.

Now that we discoverd the worms in my son, I am starting to wonder if all of our kids have worms and that bacteria, viruses and metals are all inside the worms. Each kid is different based on what pathogens they have had in life that is still inside the worms. Every time we kill the worms.

So maybe my kid does well on antibiotics, yours on chelation and hers on anti-virals. BUT, maybe all of our kids would get better if we just killed the worms.

I believe this is somewhat Hulda e's theory, but it is starting to make more sense to me. For years, I was sure my son did not have worms, then finally I found them.

Caryn

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>

>  

>

>

>

>

> ,

> There is not a single answer for all kids with autism.  If it was that easy, they all would have been better by now.  Just to set the record straight I am not in cahoots with Dr. Goldberg.  He did recover my son and for that I will always be grateful.  But sometimes I dread going to his office because of his personality and bedside manner. 

>  

> I am surprised that you would attack me that way when you never even met me.  The only reason I am here is to help other kids get better.  I understand the anger we have cause our children are sick, I was angry too.  As a matter of fact I’m still angry because there are so many out there taking advantage of our fear and desperation to help our children.

>  

> Mine is recovered and in college.  I don’t need to search for answers anymore.   I once made a promise to God that if you make mine better, I will make them all better.  I would like nothing more than to retire.  I don’t need to do this anymore.  And I would enjoy spending my days going out to lunch, reading books and doing what I want rather than answering posts like yours. 

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> I’m thrilled chelation helped your kiddo but are you sure that it was chelation and not something else you were doing at the same time?  And are you sure of the long term effects of chelating?  Dr. Goldberg (who at times I don’t even like) said there is proof on brain spects that show the damage chelating does.  I may not like his antics but he did recover Stan’s son and help Cheryl’s tremendously.  So maybe you should look into it.  I would go to the devil himself if it would save my kid

[Guest guest]

where are you reading all our kids have iodine issues????

I actually LOVE the title of this converstaion there is no ONE answer for ALL our kids BECAUSE all our kids are different!!! with different issues it will take different things and even different pathways to heal them

From: Cheryl

Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:09 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism.

Interesting theory about the worms. I know little about worms. I tend to theorize it as one problem that leads to all the other problems. Without adequate iodine our bodies has difficulty or cannot eliminate pathogens. The hormonal processes dont work. The adrenals dont work correctly. It is all related. You do have a point, each kid IS different, but what each kid shares is Iodine Deficiency. Iodine would eliminate the need for antibiotics. And yeast fighters. And antivirals. And chelation. And the list goes on. Iodine does not eliminate the need for Magnesium, Vitamin C, Niacin, Se, Vit D, Natural Sea Salt, good nutrition, exercise and clean water. Some may need, depending on damage, Enzymes,Specific B vits or a mix, Tyrosine, Thyroid supplement or Inositol until the gut is healed and Iodine sufficiency occurs. Once iodine sufficiency occurs the body is able to start healing and eliminating. Cheryl >> My son has been on antibiotics for 3 years -- not a popular decision, but it has been great for him.> > Now that we discoverd the worms in my son, I am starting to wonder if all of our kids have worms and that bacteria, viruses and metals are all inside the worms. Each kid is different based on what pathogens they have had in life that is still inside the worms. Every time we kill the worms. > > So maybe my kid does well on antibiotics, yours on chelation and hers on anti-virals. BUT, maybe all of our kids would get better if we just killed the worms. > > I believe this is somewhat Hulda e's theory, but it is starting to make more sense to me. For years, I was sure my son did not have worms, then finally I found them.> > Caryn>

[Guest guest]

It may not be so in every single case, but (and you can add it to the growing list of nutrients) the majority of the population is deficient. Like magnesium and selenium, it's a quick,easy, and sensible place to look when things start going wrong (especially with thyroid/adrenal issues) and can make all the difference when brought up to sufficient levels. You don't see it too often w people who eat lots of seaweed and seafood but that's not usually our kids. Google it. There's tons and tons of stuff about it.

-Tammy

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sat, February 5, 2011 6:05:03 PMSubject: Re: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism.

where are you reading all our kids have iodine issues????

I actually LOVE the title of this converstaion there is no ONE answer for ALL our kids BECAUSE all our kids are different!!! with different issues it will take different things and even different pathways to heal them

From: Cheryl

Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:09 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism.

Interesting theory about the worms. I know little about worms. I tend to theorize it as one problem that leads to all the other problems. Without adequate iodine our bodies has difficulty or cannot eliminate pathogens. The hormonal processes dont work. The adrenals dont work correctly. It is all related. You do have a point, each kid IS different, but what each kid shares is Iodine Deficiency. Iodine would eliminate the need for antibiotics. And yeast fighters. And antivirals. And chelation. And the list goes on. Iodine does not eliminate the need for Magnesium, Vitamin C, Niacin, Se, Vit D, Natural Sea Salt, good nutrition, exercise and clean water. Some may need, depending on damage, Enzymes,Specific B vits or a mix, Tyrosine, Thyroid supplement or Inositol until the gut is healed and Iodine sufficiency occurs. Once iodine sufficiency occurs the body is able to start healing and eliminating. Cheryl ---

In mb12 valtrex , "Caryn_Reid" wrote:>> My son has been on antibiotics for 3 years -- not a popular decision, but it has been great for him.> > Now that we discoverd the worms in my son, I am starting to wonder if all of our kids have worms and that bacteria, viruses and metals are all inside the worms. Each kid is different based on what pathogens they have had in life that is still inside the worms. Every time we kill the worms. > > So maybe my kid does well on antibiotics, yours on chelation and hers on anti-virals. BUT, maybe all of our kids would get better if we just killed the worms. > > I believe this is somewhat Hulda e's theory, but it is starting to make more sense to me. For years, I was sure my son did not have worms,

then finally I found them.> > Caryn>

[Guest guest]

It may not be so in every single case, but (and you can add it to the growing list of nutrients) the majority of the population is deficient. Like magnesium and selenium, it's a quick,easy, and sensible place to look when things start going wrong (especially with thyroid/adrenal issues) and can make all the difference when brought up to sufficient levels. You don't see it too often w people who eat lots of seaweed and seafood but that's not usually our kids. Google it. There's tons and tons of stuff about it.

-Tammy

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sat, February 5, 2011 6:05:03 PMSubject: Re: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism.

where are you reading all our kids have iodine issues????

I actually LOVE the title of this converstaion there is no ONE answer for ALL our kids BECAUSE all our kids are different!!! with different issues it will take different things and even different pathways to heal them

From: Cheryl

Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:09 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism.

Interesting theory about the worms. I know little about worms. I tend to theorize it as one problem that leads to all the other problems. Without adequate iodine our bodies has difficulty or cannot eliminate pathogens. The hormonal processes dont work. The adrenals dont work correctly. It is all related. You do have a point, each kid IS different, but what each kid shares is Iodine Deficiency. Iodine would eliminate the need for antibiotics. And yeast fighters. And antivirals. And chelation. And the list goes on. Iodine does not eliminate the need for Magnesium, Vitamin C, Niacin, Se, Vit D, Natural Sea Salt, good nutrition, exercise and clean water. Some may need, depending on damage, Enzymes,Specific B vits or a mix, Tyrosine, Thyroid supplement or Inositol until the gut is healed and Iodine sufficiency occurs. Once iodine sufficiency occurs the body is able to start healing and eliminating. Cheryl ---

In mb12 valtrex , "Caryn_Reid" wrote:>> My son has been on antibiotics for 3 years -- not a popular decision, but it has been great for him.> > Now that we discoverd the worms in my son, I am starting to wonder if all of our kids have worms and that bacteria, viruses and metals are all inside the worms. Each kid is different based on what pathogens they have had in life that is still inside the worms. Every time we kill the worms. > > So maybe my kid does well on antibiotics, yours on chelation and hers on anti-virals. BUT, maybe all of our kids would get better if we just killed the worms. > > I believe this is somewhat Hulda e's theory, but it is starting to make more sense to me. For years, I was sure my son did not have worms,

then finally I found them.> > Caryn>

[Guest guest]

I always see read flags when anyone says the word ALL, it's one of my pet peves on groups.....our kids are so different from one to the next

From: T Lynn

Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 6:42 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism.

It may not be so in every single case, but (and you can add it to the growing list of nutrients) the majority of the population is deficient. Like magnesium and selenium, it's a quick,easy, and sensible place to look when things start going wrong (especially with thyroid/adrenal issues) and can make all the difference when brought up to sufficient levels. You don't see it too often w people who eat lots of seaweed and seafood but that's not usually our kids. Google it. There's tons and tons of stuff about it.

-Tammy

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sat, February 5, 2011 6:05:03 PMSubject: Re: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism.

where are you reading all our kids have iodine issues????

I actually LOVE the title of this converstaion there is no ONE answer for ALL our kids BECAUSE all our kids are different!!! with different issues it will take different things and even different pathways to heal them

From: Cheryl

Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:09 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism.

Interesting theory about the worms. I know little about worms. I tend to theorize it as one problem that leads to all the other problems. Without adequate iodine our bodies has difficulty or cannot eliminate pathogens. The hormonal processes dont work. The adrenals dont work correctly. It is all related. You do have a point, each kid IS different, but what each kid shares is Iodine Deficiency. Iodine would eliminate the need for antibiotics. And yeast fighters. And antivirals. And chelation. And the list goes on. Iodine does not eliminate the need for Magnesium, Vitamin C, Niacin, Se, Vit D, Natural Sea Salt, good nutrition, exercise and clean water. Some may need, depending on damage, Enzymes,Specific B vits or a mix, Tyrosine, Thyroid supplement or Inositol until the gut is healed and Iodine sufficiency occurs. Once iodine sufficiency occurs the body is able to start healing and eliminating. Cheryl >> My son has been on antibiotics for 3 years -- not a popular decision, but it has been great for him.> > Now that we discoverd the worms in my son, I am starting to wonder if all of our kids have worms and that bacteria, viruses and metals are all inside the worms. Each kid is different based on what pathogens they have had in life that is still inside the worms. Every time we kill the worms. > > So maybe my kid does well on antibiotics, yours on chelation and hers on anti-virals. BUT, maybe all of our kids would get better if we just killed the worms. > > I believe this is somewhat Hulda e's theory, but it is starting to make more sense to me. For years, I was sure my son did not have worms, then finally I found them.> > Caryn>

[Guest guest]

I always see read flags when anyone says the word ALL, it's one of my pet peves on groups.....our kids are so different from one to the next

From: T Lynn

Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 6:42 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism.

It may not be so in every single case, but (and you can add it to the growing list of nutrients) the majority of the population is deficient. Like magnesium and selenium, it's a quick,easy, and sensible place to look when things start going wrong (especially with thyroid/adrenal issues) and can make all the difference when brought up to sufficient levels. You don't see it too often w people who eat lots of seaweed and seafood but that's not usually our kids. Google it. There's tons and tons of stuff about it.

-Tammy

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sat, February 5, 2011 6:05:03 PMSubject: Re: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism.

where are you reading all our kids have iodine issues????

I actually LOVE the title of this converstaion there is no ONE answer for ALL our kids BECAUSE all our kids are different!!! with different issues it will take different things and even different pathways to heal them

From: Cheryl

Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:09 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism.

Interesting theory about the worms. I know little about worms. I tend to theorize it as one problem that leads to all the other problems. Without adequate iodine our bodies has difficulty or cannot eliminate pathogens. The hormonal processes dont work. The adrenals dont work correctly. It is all related. You do have a point, each kid IS different, but what each kid shares is Iodine Deficiency. Iodine would eliminate the need for antibiotics. And yeast fighters. And antivirals. And chelation. And the list goes on. Iodine does not eliminate the need for Magnesium, Vitamin C, Niacin, Se, Vit D, Natural Sea Salt, good nutrition, exercise and clean water. Some may need, depending on damage, Enzymes,Specific B vits or a mix, Tyrosine, Thyroid supplement or Inositol until the gut is healed and Iodine sufficiency occurs. Once iodine sufficiency occurs the body is able to start healing and eliminating. Cheryl >> My son has been on antibiotics for 3 years -- not a popular decision, but it has been great for him.> > Now that we discoverd the worms in my son, I am starting to wonder if all of our kids have worms and that bacteria, viruses and metals are all inside the worms. Each kid is different based on what pathogens they have had in life that is still inside the worms. Every time we kill the worms. > > So maybe my kid does well on antibiotics, yours on chelation and hers on anti-virals. BUT, maybe all of our kids would get better if we just killed the worms. > > I believe this is somewhat Hulda e's theory, but it is starting to make more sense to me. For years, I was sure my son did not have worms, then finally I found them.> > Caryn>

[Guest guest]

Hehe... I think they ALL do have some form of mitochondrial dysfunction! :-)

 

I always see read flags when anyone says the word ALL, it's one of my pet peves on groups.....our kids are so different from one to the next

 

From: T Lynn

Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 6:42 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism.

 

It may not be so in every single case, but  (and you can add it to the growing list of nutrients) the majority of the population is deficient.   Like magnesium and selenium, it's a quick,easy, and sensible place to look when things start going wrong (especially with  thyroid/adrenal issues) and can make all the difference when brought up to sufficient levels.  You don't see it too often w people who eat lots of seaweed and seafood but that's not usually our kids.  Google it.  There's tons and tons of stuff about it.

 

-Tammy

To: mb12 valtrex

Sent: Sat, February 5, 2011 6:05:03 PMSubject: Re: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism. 

where are you reading all our kids have iodine issues????

 

I actually LOVE the title of this converstaion there is no ONE answer for ALL our kids BECAUSE all our kids are different!!!  with different issues it will take different things and even different pathways to heal them

 

From: Cheryl

Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:09 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism.

 

Interesting theory about the worms. I know little about worms. I tend to theorize it as one problem that leads to all the other problems. Without adequate iodine our bodies has difficulty or cannot eliminate pathogens. The hormonal processes dont work. The adrenals dont work correctly. It is all related. You do have a point, each kid IS different, but what each kid shares is Iodine Deficiency. Iodine would eliminate the need for antibiotics. And yeast fighters. And antivirals. And chelation. And the list goes on. Iodine does not eliminate the need for Magnesium, Vitamin C, Niacin, Se, Vit D, Natural Sea Salt, good nutrition, exercise and clean water. Some may need, depending on damage, Enzymes,Specific B vits or a mix, Tyrosine, Thyroid supplement or Inositol until the gut is healed and Iodine sufficiency occurs. Once iodine sufficiency occurs the body is able to start healing and eliminating. Cheryl >> My son has been on antibiotics for 3 years -- not a popular decision, but it has been great for him.> > Now that we discoverd the worms in my son, I am starting to wonder if all of our kids have worms and that bacteria, viruses and metals are all inside the worms. Each kid is different based on what pathogens they have had in life that is still inside the worms. Every time we kill the worms. > > So maybe my kid does well on antibiotics, yours on chelation and hers on anti-virals. BUT, maybe all of our kids would get better if we just killed the worms. > > I believe this is somewhat Hulda e's theory, but it is starting to make more sense to me. For years, I was sure my son did not have worms, then finally I found them.> > Caryn>

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

Hehe... I think they ALL do have some form of mitochondrial dysfunction! :-)

 

I always see read flags when anyone says the word ALL, it's one of my pet peves on groups.....our kids are so different from one to the next

 

From: T Lynn

Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 6:42 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism.

 

It may not be so in every single case, but  (and you can add it to the growing list of nutrients) the majority of the population is deficient.   Like magnesium and selenium, it's a quick,easy, and sensible place to look when things start going wrong (especially with  thyroid/adrenal issues) and can make all the difference when brought up to sufficient levels.  You don't see it too often w people who eat lots of seaweed and seafood but that's not usually our kids.  Google it.  There's tons and tons of stuff about it.

 

-Tammy

To: mb12 valtrex

Sent: Sat, February 5, 2011 6:05:03 PMSubject: Re: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism. 

where are you reading all our kids have iodine issues????

 

I actually LOVE the title of this converstaion there is no ONE answer for ALL our kids BECAUSE all our kids are different!!!  with different issues it will take different things and even different pathways to heal them

 

From: Cheryl

Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:09 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism.

 

Interesting theory about the worms. I know little about worms. I tend to theorize it as one problem that leads to all the other problems. Without adequate iodine our bodies has difficulty or cannot eliminate pathogens. The hormonal processes dont work. The adrenals dont work correctly. It is all related. You do have a point, each kid IS different, but what each kid shares is Iodine Deficiency. Iodine would eliminate the need for antibiotics. And yeast fighters. And antivirals. And chelation. And the list goes on. Iodine does not eliminate the need for Magnesium, Vitamin C, Niacin, Se, Vit D, Natural Sea Salt, good nutrition, exercise and clean water. Some may need, depending on damage, Enzymes,Specific B vits or a mix, Tyrosine, Thyroid supplement or Inositol until the gut is healed and Iodine sufficiency occurs. Once iodine sufficiency occurs the body is able to start healing and eliminating. Cheryl >> My son has been on antibiotics for 3 years -- not a popular decision, but it has been great for him.> > Now that we discoverd the worms in my son, I am starting to wonder if all of our kids have worms and that bacteria, viruses and metals are all inside the worms. Each kid is different based on what pathogens they have had in life that is still inside the worms. Every time we kill the worms. > > So maybe my kid does well on antibiotics, yours on chelation and hers on anti-virals. BUT, maybe all of our kids would get better if we just killed the worms. > > I believe this is somewhat Hulda e's theory, but it is starting to make more sense to me. For years, I was sure my son did not have worms, then finally I found them.> > Caryn>

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

yes but for each the journey will look different. it's not going to all be cutler, or all HBOT, or all chelation, or all this or that, it bothers me to see people say there is only one way to get there. that simpley isn't true. if you go to generation rescue page and watch vidoe after vidoe of kids that are recovered they all found there way there differently, some DAN, some homopathic, some chelation, some just diet and supliments ect...

I actually have worked with some familys with no vaccinations, no metals, no leaky gut and no nutritional issues....they are rare but they are out there! and there is no explination on why they have kids with autism.

From: laurargoddin

Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 9:07 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism.

lol! And I would be remiss if I didn't add that I think they are suffer from a severe inability to absorb nutrients. (Because my stance is that *all disease and disorder* stems from a lack of adequate nutrition - as the short answer.)that's why everyone should juice - daily!!!! Toni, you forgot to add we should all try low oxalates (worked for me!!) If you ask Sally M. Pacholok, R.N. she would say it's a B12 deficiency. (That's why she wrote the book, "Could it be B12? An Epidemic of a Misdiagnosis.)and while we all approach it differently and from different angles, we are all trying to get the same place...> > >> > > My son has been on antibiotics for 3 years -- not a popular decision, but> > it has been great for him.> > >> > > Now that we discoverd the worms in my son, I am starting to wonder if all> > of our kids have worms and that bacteria, viruses and metals are all inside> > the worms. Each kid is different based on what pathogens they have had in> > life that is still inside the worms. Every time we kill the worms.> > >> > > So maybe my kid does well on antibiotics, yours on chelation and hers on> > anti-virals. BUT, maybe all of our kids would get better if we just killed> > the worms.> > >> > > I believe this is somewhat Hulda e's theory, but it is starting to> > make more sense to me. For years, I was sure my son did not have worms, then> > finally I found them.> > >> > > Caryn> > >> >> >> > > >> > > > -- > Toni> > ------> Mind like a steel trap...> Rusty and illegal in 37 states.>

[Guest guest]

yes but for each the journey will look different. it's not going to all be cutler, or all HBOT, or all chelation, or all this or that, it bothers me to see people say there is only one way to get there. that simpley isn't true. if you go to generation rescue page and watch vidoe after vidoe of kids that are recovered they all found there way there differently, some DAN, some homopathic, some chelation, some just diet and supliments ect...

I actually have worked with some familys with no vaccinations, no metals, no leaky gut and no nutritional issues....they are rare but they are out there! and there is no explination on why they have kids with autism.

From: laurargoddin

Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 9:07 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism.

lol! And I would be remiss if I didn't add that I think they are suffer from a severe inability to absorb nutrients. (Because my stance is that *all disease and disorder* stems from a lack of adequate nutrition - as the short answer.)that's why everyone should juice - daily!!!! Toni, you forgot to add we should all try low oxalates (worked for me!!) If you ask Sally M. Pacholok, R.N. she would say it's a B12 deficiency. (That's why she wrote the book, "Could it be B12? An Epidemic of a Misdiagnosis.)and while we all approach it differently and from different angles, we are all trying to get the same place...> > >> > > My son has been on antibiotics for 3 years -- not a popular decision, but> > it has been great for him.> > >> > > Now that we discoverd the worms in my son, I am starting to wonder if all> > of our kids have worms and that bacteria, viruses and metals are all inside> > the worms. Each kid is different based on what pathogens they have had in> > life that is still inside the worms. Every time we kill the worms.> > >> > > So maybe my kid does well on antibiotics, yours on chelation and hers on> > anti-virals. BUT, maybe all of our kids would get better if we just killed> > the worms.> > >> > > I believe this is somewhat Hulda e's theory, but it is starting to> > make more sense to me. For years, I was sure my son did not have worms, then> > finally I found them.> > >> > > Caryn> > >> >> >> > > >> > > > -- > Toni> > ------> Mind like a steel trap...> Rusty and illegal in 37 states.>

[Guest guest]

How do you confirm " no leaky gut? " I really want to know. :-)

 

yes but for each the journey will look different.  it's not going to all be cutler, or all HBOT, or all chelation, or all this or that, it bothers me to see people say there is only one way to get there.  that simpley isn't true.  if you go to generation rescue page and watch vidoe after vidoe of kids that are recovered they all found there way there differently, some DAN, some homopathic, some chelation, some just diet and supliments ect...

 

I actually have worked with some familys with no vaccinations, no metals, no leaky gut and no nutritional issues....they are rare but they are out there!  and there is no explination on why they have kids with autism.

From: laurargoddin

Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 9:07 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism.

 

lol! And I would be remiss if I didn't add that I think they are suffer from a severe inability to absorb nutrients. (Because my stance is that *all disease and disorder* stems from a lack of adequate nutrition - as the short answer.)that's why everyone should juice - daily!!!! Toni, you forgot to add we should all try low oxalates (worked for me!!) If you ask Sally M. Pacholok, R.N. she would say it's a B12 deficiency. (That's why she wrote the book, " Could it be B12? An Epidemic of a Misdiagnosis.)and while we all approach it differently and from different angles, we are all trying to get the same place...> > >> > > My son has been on antibiotics for 3 years -- not a popular decision, but> > it has been great for him.> > >> > > Now that we discoverd the worms in my son, I am starting to wonder if all> > of our kids have worms and that bacteria, viruses and metals are all inside> > the worms. Each kid is different based on what pathogens they have had in> > life that is still inside the worms. Every time we kill the worms.> > >> > > So maybe my kid does well on antibiotics, yours on chelation and hers on> > anti-virals. BUT, maybe all of our kids would get better if we just killed> > the worms.> > >> > > I believe this is somewhat Hulda e's theory, but it is starting to> > make more sense to me. For years, I was sure my son did not have worms, then> > finally I found them.> > >> > > Caryn> > >> >> >> > > >> > > > -- > Toni> > ------> Mind like a steel trap...> Rusty and illegal in 37 states.>

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

How do you confirm " no leaky gut? " I really want to know. :-)

 

yes but for each the journey will look different.  it's not going to all be cutler, or all HBOT, or all chelation, or all this or that, it bothers me to see people say there is only one way to get there.  that simpley isn't true.  if you go to generation rescue page and watch vidoe after vidoe of kids that are recovered they all found there way there differently, some DAN, some homopathic, some chelation, some just diet and supliments ect...

 

I actually have worked with some familys with no vaccinations, no metals, no leaky gut and no nutritional issues....they are rare but they are out there!  and there is no explination on why they have kids with autism.

From: laurargoddin

Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 9:07 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism.

 

lol! And I would be remiss if I didn't add that I think they are suffer from a severe inability to absorb nutrients. (Because my stance is that *all disease and disorder* stems from a lack of adequate nutrition - as the short answer.)that's why everyone should juice - daily!!!! Toni, you forgot to add we should all try low oxalates (worked for me!!) If you ask Sally M. Pacholok, R.N. she would say it's a B12 deficiency. (That's why she wrote the book, " Could it be B12? An Epidemic of a Misdiagnosis.)and while we all approach it differently and from different angles, we are all trying to get the same place...> > >> > > My son has been on antibiotics for 3 years -- not a popular decision, but> > it has been great for him.> > >> > > Now that we discoverd the worms in my son, I am starting to wonder if all> > of our kids have worms and that bacteria, viruses and metals are all inside> > the worms. Each kid is different based on what pathogens they have had in> > life that is still inside the worms. Every time we kill the worms.> > >> > > So maybe my kid does well on antibiotics, yours on chelation and hers on> > anti-virals. BUT, maybe all of our kids would get better if we just killed> > the worms.> > >> > > I believe this is somewhat Hulda e's theory, but it is starting to> > make more sense to me. For years, I was sure my son did not have worms, then> > finally I found them.> > >> > > Caryn> > >> >> >> > > >> > > > -- > Toni> > ------> Mind like a steel trap...> Rusty and illegal in 37 states.>

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

doing an IGG test and comp stool test would show you if you were fine (on stool test you are looking at the digestion of foods, IGA number and bacteria levels ect)

From: Toni Marie Lombardo

Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 10:38 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism.

How do you confirm "no leaky gut?" I really want to know. :-)

yes but for each the journey will look different. it's not going to all be cutler, or all HBOT, or all chelation, or all this or that, it bothers me to see people say there is only one way to get there. that simpley isn't true. if you go to generation rescue page and watch vidoe after vidoe of kids that are recovered they all found there way there differently, some DAN, some homopathic, some chelation, some just diet and supliments ect...

I actually have worked with some familys with no vaccinations, no metals, no leaky gut and no nutritional issues....they are rare but they are out there! and there is no explination on why they have kids with autism.

From: laurargoddin

Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 9:07 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism.

lol! And I would be remiss if I didn't add that I think they are suffer from a severe inability to absorb nutrients. (Because my stance is that *all disease and disorder* stems from a lack of adequate nutrition - as the short answer.)that's why everyone should juice - daily!!!! Toni, you forgot to add we should all try low oxalates (worked for me!!) If you ask Sally M. Pacholok, R.N. she would say it's a B12 deficiency. (That's why she wrote the book, "Could it be B12? An Epidemic of a Misdiagnosis.)and while we all approach it differently and from different angles, we are all trying to get the same place...> > >> > > My son has been on antibiotics for 3 years -- not a popular decision, but> > it has been great for him.> > >> > > Now that we discoverd the worms in my son, I am starting to wonder if all> > of our kids have worms and that bacteria, viruses and metals are all inside> > the worms. Each kid is different based on what pathogens they have had in> > life that is still inside the worms. Every time we kill the worms.> > >> > > So maybe my kid does well on antibiotics, yours on chelation and hers on> > anti-virals. BUT, maybe all of our kids would get better if we just killed> > the worms.> > >> > > I believe this is somewhat Hulda e's theory, but it is starting to> > make more sense to me. For years, I was sure my son did not have worms, then> > finally I found them.> > >> > > Caryn> > >> >> >> > > >> > > > -- > Toni> > ------> Mind like a steel trap...> Rusty and illegal in 37 states.>

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

doing an IGG test and comp stool test would show you if you were fine (on stool test you are looking at the digestion of foods, IGA number and bacteria levels ect)

From: Toni Marie Lombardo

Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 10:38 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism.

How do you confirm "no leaky gut?" I really want to know. :-)

yes but for each the journey will look different. it's not going to all be cutler, or all HBOT, or all chelation, or all this or that, it bothers me to see people say there is only one way to get there. that simpley isn't true. if you go to generation rescue page and watch vidoe after vidoe of kids that are recovered they all found there way there differently, some DAN, some homopathic, some chelation, some just diet and supliments ect...

I actually have worked with some familys with no vaccinations, no metals, no leaky gut and no nutritional issues....they are rare but they are out there! and there is no explination on why they have kids with autism.

From: laurargoddin

Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 9:07 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism.

lol! And I would be remiss if I didn't add that I think they are suffer from a severe inability to absorb nutrients. (Because my stance is that *all disease and disorder* stems from a lack of adequate nutrition - as the short answer.)that's why everyone should juice - daily!!!! Toni, you forgot to add we should all try low oxalates (worked for me!!) If you ask Sally M. Pacholok, R.N. she would say it's a B12 deficiency. (That's why she wrote the book, "Could it be B12? An Epidemic of a Misdiagnosis.)and while we all approach it differently and from different angles, we are all trying to get the same place...> > >> > > My son has been on antibiotics for 3 years -- not a popular decision, but> > it has been great for him.> > >> > > Now that we discoverd the worms in my son, I am starting to wonder if all> > of our kids have worms and that bacteria, viruses and metals are all inside> > the worms. Each kid is different based on what pathogens they have had in> > life that is still inside the worms. Every time we kill the worms.> > >> > > So maybe my kid does well on antibiotics, yours on chelation and hers on> > anti-virals. BUT, maybe all of our kids would get better if we just killed> > the worms.> > >> > > I believe this is somewhat Hulda e's theory, but it is starting to> > make more sense to me. For years, I was sure my son did not have worms, then> > finally I found them.> > >> > > Caryn> > >> >> >> > > >> > > > -- > Toni> > ------> Mind like a steel trap...> Rusty and illegal in 37 states.>

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

doing an IGG test and comp stool test would show you if you were fine (on stool test you are looking at the digestion of foods, IGA number and bacteria levels ect)

From: Toni Marie Lombardo

Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 10:38 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism.

How do you confirm "no leaky gut?" I really want to know. :-)

yes but for each the journey will look different. it's not going to all be cutler, or all HBOT, or all chelation, or all this or that, it bothers me to see people say there is only one way to get there. that simpley isn't true. if you go to generation rescue page and watch vidoe after vidoe of kids that are recovered they all found there way there differently, some DAN, some homopathic, some chelation, some just diet and supliments ect...

I actually have worked with some familys with no vaccinations, no metals, no leaky gut and no nutritional issues....they are rare but they are out there! and there is no explination on why they have kids with autism.

From: laurargoddin

Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 9:07 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism.

lol! And I would be remiss if I didn't add that I think they are suffer from a severe inability to absorb nutrients. (Because my stance is that *all disease and disorder* stems from a lack of adequate nutrition - as the short answer.)that's why everyone should juice - daily!!!! Toni, you forgot to add we should all try low oxalates (worked for me!!) If you ask Sally M. Pacholok, R.N. she would say it's a B12 deficiency. (That's why she wrote the book, "Could it be B12? An Epidemic of a Misdiagnosis.)and while we all approach it differently and from different angles, we are all trying to get the same place...> > >> > > My son has been on antibiotics for 3 years -- not a popular decision, but> > it has been great for him.> > >> > > Now that we discoverd the worms in my son, I am starting to wonder if all> > of our kids have worms and that bacteria, viruses and metals are all inside> > the worms. Each kid is different based on what pathogens they have had in> > life that is still inside the worms. Every time we kill the worms.> > >> > > So maybe my kid does well on antibiotics, yours on chelation and hers on> > anti-virals. BUT, maybe all of our kids would get better if we just killed> > the worms.> > >> > > I believe this is somewhat Hulda e's theory, but it is starting to> > make more sense to me. For years, I was sure my son did not have worms, then> > finally I found them.> > >> > > Caryn> > >> >> >> > > >> > > > -- > Toni> > ------> Mind like a steel trap...> Rusty and illegal in 37 states.>

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Cheryl! Very helpful!

- Kirk-

To: mb12 valtrex From: mossyforrest@...Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 16:28:03 +0000Subject: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism.

If you are already doing biomed and have a good protocol in place it probably includes most the items on the list. So for example if you are using 500mg mag based on a doc or Dans recommendation (or your own experience as that is what is needed) then you would continue to use 500mg. Dan recommendations wouldnt change at first, just add the iodine and if there is an item not being given add it. For those that havent started biomed or dont have a dan doc's recommendations starting at the basic Iodine protocol level is a place to start. It might be enough. Depends on damage. It may not be comprehensive enough to heal the damage most autisic children have very quickly. D3, Enzymes, Tyrosine, Probiotics, DMG, Vit A, MB12, B6, Folinic, one or all might also be needed or speed things along or if there is inadequate nutrition (as in they only eat chicken nuggets!) . The iodine protocol is adult dosage(with moderate to severe damage). I tend to think of child's dosage at 1/4 for kids up to puberty, 1/8th for babies and toddlers. Not very scientific, just my own opinion keeping it simple. There is no set right amount for every person at the beginning. Starting less is ok, too. I tend to think a very healthy adult with little damage or symptoms wouldnt need full protocol to achieve sufficiency. Someone with advanced cancer might need 100mg of Iodine. Or even 200mg. It's all variable.Autism protocols (which are typically comprehensive) are geared toward what has been found to help autistic kids so combining the 2 makes sense. ---------The Iodine Protocol 50 mg Iodine Vitamin C - 3,000 mg per day 300-600 mg magnesium oxide 200 mcg selenium 500 mg niacin (B3) twice a day (NOT niacinamide) 100 mg Vitamin B2 three times a day. A comprehensive vitamin and nutrition program.-------- The last one is the most important. Comprehensive nutrition program.Note: I dont get the mag oxide recommendation, but that might be cause i know its not very effective and it makes my stomach hurt whereas mag citrate or mag malate sooths, but thats what it says.Some think mixing Vit C and Iodine should be avoided. The C changes the iodine to iodide and so the body has to work to change it back. And with our kids we know they have issues with bioavailability so avoiding that step is probably good. If detoxing badly, in addition to the salt, Magnesium Chloride transdermally works for many. Easiest way to give the body enough mag with no digestive irritation, too. Very calming and soothing. Keep in mind that when iodine sufficiency is obtained(believed to be 3 to 6 months depending on iodine dosage) the need for some of these supplements can change. The lack of Iodine has effected the availability of other minerals so once that is fixed the body is able to utilize all others more effectively, so less may be needed depending on I hope somewhere in there is your answer ;-) I am rambling again. Just so hard to explain in 10 words or less!Cheryl >> > Cheryl,> > Thank you so much for that. I read every word. Just a quick question about companion supps (because that's where the confusion lies for me). Like I said, I'll be giving this to three-year-olds. You told me how to start out slow with the iodine, but how do I know how much of the other supps to give? Also, do you give the supps at the same time as the iodine or is it better to space them out? And, when/if severe detox symptoms occur, do you load up on any other supps or just the salts? My Lugols should get here tomorrow and I just want to be prepared. Thanks again for all the great info!> > > - Kirk-

[Guest guest]

So what do you suggest to supplement iodine? Kelp is the only thing I keep finding when looking up sources to buy.To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sun, February 6, 2011 12:13:12 PMSubject: Re: There is not an one answer for all

our kids suffering with autism.

Thank you , I am glad you liked it.

Synthroid is bad stuff. I almost have to say shame on that Dan doc for not rxing natural Desiccated thyroid. Granted most docs think patients are havin some sort of placebo effect when they say they feel better on natural than synthetic. Sorta like when docs say autism cant be helped with biomed. There is alot of info from people on the iodine list about the importance of natural thyroid.

Kelp is another bad thing. There just isnt the right kind of iodine to iodide ratio that is shown to be needed. And most believe processed kelp to be full of metals/or toxins. So not usually recommended.

I tend to think its the iodine deficiency that causes the problem with amalgams, both theories (your sis and I) are probably correct. I also believe putting mercury even in healthy peoples teeth is insane!

There is a thread on the mother list that is long and extensive but with lots of great information and links.

http://www.mothering.com/community/forum/thread/1091794/the-iodine-thread

Curezone also has an iodine thread. Lots of info.

http://curezone.com/faq/c.asp?a=13,281,2962

http://curezone.com/faq/q.asp?a=13,281,2962 & q=509

http://www.iodine4health.com

Cheryl

>

> First I want to say - I love that you used the word "daft."

>

> This is a great post. I actually had this part figured out, but you gave it a life that I had not. You moved it to the front row, as it merely got 'standing room only' before...

>

> I used to do patch tests on Rob. I measured the time it took for the patch to disappear. Funny, during that time his DAN cut his synthyroid in half...when I stopped, the fluctuations stopped. This had given me new insight, but I didn't realize how much, until I read your post. This is GREAT info, and if you have sources of information that I can read, I would appreciate the insight and direction.

>

> My sister and I have been discussing this issue at length recently - as she purchased some dulse to put on his food. (She didn't like my iodine and kelp drops I used to supplement him with.) She believes that his mercury fillings get in the way for his thyroid to work properly...we are getting them removed. (They will be gone by Feb. 21! Yeah!) -- but this adds another piece to the puzzle...one that I had looked at and dumped because I didn't understand the complexity.

>

> Thanks for such a great post. It's really helpful!!

>

> and I agree...what does constitute recovery?...beautifully written and expressed..

>

> laura

[Guest guest]

Lugols 2% soln is what you can generally find in the USA for this type of iodine supp.I bought it, used it once, got confused abt supplementing with it and didn't do anymore LOL so that's about as helpful as I can be.

 

So what do you suggest to supplement iodine?  Kelp is the only thing I keep finding when looking up sources to buy.

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

Lugols, 2%Sent from my iPhone

So what do you suggest to supplement iodine? Kelp is the only thing I keep finding when looking up sources to buy.To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sun, February 6, 2011 12:13:12 PMSubject: Re:

There is not an one answer for all

our kids suffering with autism.

Thank you , I am glad you liked it.

Synthroid is bad stuff. I almost have to say shame on that Dan doc for not rxing natural Desiccated thyroid. Granted most docs think patients are havin some sort of placebo effect when they say they feel better on natural than synthetic. Sorta like when docs say autism cant be helped with biomed. There is alot of info from people on the iodine list about the importance of natural thyroid.

Kelp is another bad thing. There just isnt the right kind of iodine to iodide ratio that is shown to be needed. And most believe processed kelp to be full of metals/or toxins. So not usually recommended.

I tend to think its the iodine deficiency that causes the problem with amalgams, both theories (your sis and I) are probably correct. I also believe putting mercury even in healthy peoples teeth is insane!

There is a thread on the mother list that is long and extensive but with lots of great information and links.

http://www.mothering.com/community/forum/thread/1091794/the-iodine-thread

Curezone also has an iodine thread. Lots of info.

http://curezone.com/faq/c.asp?a=13,281,2962

http://curezone.com/faq/q.asp?a=13,281,2962 & q=509

http://www.iodine4health.com

Cheryl

>

> First I want to say - I love that you used the word "daft."

>

> This is a great post. I actually had this part figured out, but you gave it a life that I had not. You moved it to the front row, as it merely got 'standing room only' before...

>

> I used to do patch tests on Rob. I measured the time it took for the patch to disappear. Funny, during that time his DAN cut his synthyroid in half...when I stopped, the fluctuations stopped. This had given me new insight, but I didn't realize how much, until I read your post. This is GREAT info, and if you have sources of information that I can read, I would appreciate the insight and direction.

>

> My sister and I have been discussing this issue at length recently - as she purchased some dulse to put on his food. (She didn't like my iodine and kelp drops I used to supplement him with.) She believes that his mercury fillings get in the way for his thyroid to work properly...we are getting them removed. (They will be gone by Feb. 21! Yeah!) -- but this adds another piece to the puzzle...one that I had looked at and dumped because I didn't understand the complexity.

>

> Thanks for such a great post. It's really helpful!!

>

> and I agree...what does constitute recovery?...beautifully written and expressed..

>

> laura

[Guest guest]

Lugols, 2%Sent from my iPhone

So what do you suggest to supplement iodine? Kelp is the only thing I keep finding when looking up sources to buy.To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sun, February 6, 2011 12:13:12 PMSubject: Re:

There is not an one answer for all

our kids suffering with autism.

Thank you , I am glad you liked it.

Synthroid is bad stuff. I almost have to say shame on that Dan doc for not rxing natural Desiccated thyroid. Granted most docs think patients are havin some sort of placebo effect when they say they feel better on natural than synthetic. Sorta like when docs say autism cant be helped with biomed. There is alot of info from people on the iodine list about the importance of natural thyroid.

Kelp is another bad thing. There just isnt the right kind of iodine to iodide ratio that is shown to be needed. And most believe processed kelp to be full of metals/or toxins. So not usually recommended.

I tend to think its the iodine deficiency that causes the problem with amalgams, both theories (your sis and I) are probably correct. I also believe putting mercury even in healthy peoples teeth is insane!

There is a thread on the mother list that is long and extensive but with lots of great information and links.

http://www.mothering.com/community/forum/thread/1091794/the-iodine-thread

Curezone also has an iodine thread. Lots of info.

http://curezone.com/faq/c.asp?a=13,281,2962

http://curezone.com/faq/q.asp?a=13,281,2962 & q=509

http://www.iodine4health.com

Cheryl

>

> First I want to say - I love that you used the word "daft."

>

> This is a great post. I actually had this part figured out, but you gave it a life that I had not. You moved it to the front row, as it merely got 'standing room only' before...

>

> I used to do patch tests on Rob. I measured the time it took for the patch to disappear. Funny, during that time his DAN cut his synthyroid in half...when I stopped, the fluctuations stopped. This had given me new insight, but I didn't realize how much, until I read your post. This is GREAT info, and if you have sources of information that I can read, I would appreciate the insight and direction.

>

> My sister and I have been discussing this issue at length recently - as she purchased some dulse to put on his food. (She didn't like my iodine and kelp drops I used to supplement him with.) She believes that his mercury fillings get in the way for his thyroid to work properly...we are getting them removed. (They will be gone by Feb. 21! Yeah!) -- but this adds another piece to the puzzle...one that I had looked at and dumped because I didn't understand the complexity.

>

> Thanks for such a great post. It's really helpful!!

>

> and I agree...what does constitute recovery?...beautifully written and expressed..

>

> laura

[Guest guest]

Dr. Usman has prescribed SSKI 30ml.(potassium iodide soln saturated)

.. Are you familiar? My son reacts extremely negative to it though.

If it is a good kind,I may try it.       Thank You,Tammy F.

 

Lugols, 2%

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 6, 2011, at 12:38 PM, l h

wrote:

 

So what do you suggest to supplement iodine? 

Kelp is the only thing I keep finding when looking

up sources to buy.

To: mb12 valtrex

Sent: Sun, February 6, 2011

12:13:12 PM

Subject: Re:

There is not an one answer for all our kids

suffering with autism.

 

Thank you , I am glad you liked it.

Synthroid is bad stuff. I almost have to say

shame on that Dan doc for not rxing natural

Desiccated thyroid. Granted most docs think

patients are havin some sort of placebo

effect when they say they feel better on

natural than synthetic. Sorta like when docs

say autism cant be helped with biomed. There

is alot of info from people on the iodine

list about the importance of natural

thyroid.

Kelp is another bad thing. There just isnt

the right kind of iodine to iodide ratio

that is shown to be needed. And most believe

processed kelp to be full of metals/or

toxins. So not usually recommended.

I tend to think its the iodine deficiency

that causes the problem with amalgams, both

theories (your sis and I) are probably

correct. I also believe putting mercury even

in healthy peoples teeth is insane!

There is a thread on the mother list that is

long and extensive but with lots of great

information and links.

http://www.mothering.com/community/forum/thread/1091794/the-iodine-thread

Curezone also has an iodine thread. Lots of

info.

http://curezone.com/faq/c.asp?a=13,281,2962

http://curezone.com/faq/q.asp?a=13,281,2962 & q=509

http://www.iodine4health.com

Cheryl

>

> First I want to say - I love that you

used the word "daft."

>

> This is a great post. I actually had

this part figured out, but you gave it a

life that I had not. You moved it to the

front row, as it merely got 'standing room

only' before...

>

> I used to do patch tests on Rob. I

measured the time it took for the patch to

disappear. Funny, during that time his DAN

cut his synthyroid in half...when I stopped,

the fluctuations stopped. This had given me

new insight, but I didn't realize how much,

until I read your post. This is GREAT info,

and if you have sources of information that

I can read, I would appreciate the insight

and direction.

>

> My sister and I have been discussing

this issue at length recently - as she

purchased some dulse to put on his food.

(She didn't like my iodine and kelp drops I

used to supplement him with.) She believes

that his mercury fillings get in the way for

his thyroid to work properly...we are

getting them removed. (They will be gone by

Feb. 21! Yeah!) -- but this adds another

piece to the puzzle...one that I had looked

at and dumped because I didn't understand

the complexity.

>

> Thanks for such a great post. It's

really helpful!!

>

> and I agree...what does constitute

recovery?...beautifully written and

expressed..

>

> laura

[Guest guest]

Dr. Usman has prescribed SSKI 30ml.(potassium iodide soln saturated)

.. Are you familiar? My son reacts extremely negative to it though.

If it is a good kind,I may try it.       Thank You,Tammy F.

 

Lugols, 2%

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On Feb 6, 2011, at 12:38 PM, l h

wrote:

 

So what do you suggest to supplement iodine? 

Kelp is the only thing I keep finding when looking

up sources to buy.

To: mb12 valtrex

Sent: Sun, February 6, 2011

12:13:12 PM

Subject: Re:

There is not an one answer for all our kids

suffering with autism.

 

Thank you , I am glad you liked it.

Synthroid is bad stuff. I almost have to say

shame on that Dan doc for not rxing natural

Desiccated thyroid. Granted most docs think

patients are havin some sort of placebo

effect when they say they feel better on

natural than synthetic. Sorta like when docs

say autism cant be helped with biomed. There

is alot of info from people on the iodine

list about the importance of natural

thyroid.

Kelp is another bad thing. There just isnt

the right kind of iodine to iodide ratio

that is shown to be needed. And most believe

processed kelp to be full of metals/or

toxins. So not usually recommended.

I tend to think its the iodine deficiency

that causes the problem with amalgams, both

theories (your sis and I) are probably

correct. I also believe putting mercury even

in healthy peoples teeth is insane!

There is a thread on the mother list that is

long and extensive but with lots of great

information and links.

http://www.mothering.com/community/forum/thread/1091794/the-iodine-thread

Curezone also has an iodine thread. Lots of

info.

http://curezone.com/faq/c.asp?a=13,281,2962

http://curezone.com/faq/q.asp?a=13,281,2962 & q=509

http://www.iodine4health.com

Cheryl

>

> First I want to say - I love that you

used the word "daft."

>

> This is a great post. I actually had

this part figured out, but you gave it a

life that I had not. You moved it to the

front row, as it merely got 'standing room

only' before...

>

> I used to do patch tests on Rob. I

measured the time it took for the patch to

disappear. Funny, during that time his DAN

cut his synthyroid in half...when I stopped,

the fluctuations stopped. This had given me

new insight, but I didn't realize how much,

until I read your post. This is GREAT info,

and if you have sources of information that

I can read, I would appreciate the insight

and direction.

>

> My sister and I have been discussing

this issue at length recently - as she

purchased some dulse to put on his food.

(She didn't like my iodine and kelp drops I

used to supplement him with.) She believes

that his mercury fillings get in the way for

his thyroid to work properly...we are

getting them removed. (They will be gone by

Feb. 21! Yeah!) -- but this adds another

piece to the puzzle...one that I had looked

at and dumped because I didn't understand

the complexity.

>

> Thanks for such a great post. It's

really helpful!!

>

> and I agree...what does constitute

recovery?...beautifully written and

expressed..

>

> laura

[Guest guest]

Cheryl,My kids' multi-vitamin has Niacinimide in it. Is that bad or just not as effective as Niacin? Sorry again for all the questions.- Kirk-To: mb12 valtrex From: mossyforrest@...Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 16:28:03 +0000Subject: Re: There is not an one answer for all our kids suffering with autism.

If you are already doing biomed and have a good protocol in place it probably includes most the items on the list. So for example if you are using 500mg mag based on a doc or Dans recommendation (or your own experience as that is what is needed) then you would continue to use 500mg.

Dan recommendations wouldnt change at first, just add the iodine and if there is an item not being given add it.

For those that havent started biomed or dont have a dan doc's recommendations starting at the basic Iodine protocol level is a place to start. It might be enough. Depends on damage. It may not be comprehensive enough to heal the damage most autisic children have very quickly. D3, Enzymes, Tyrosine, Probiotics, DMG, Vit A, MB12, B6, Folinic, one or all might also be needed or speed things along or if there is inadequate nutrition (as in they only eat chicken nuggets!) .

The iodine protocol is adult dosage(with moderate to severe damage). I tend to think of child's dosage at 1/4 for kids up to puberty, 1/8th for babies and toddlers. Not very scientific, just my own opinion keeping it simple. There is no set right amount for every person at the beginning. Starting less is ok, too. I tend to think a very healthy adult with little damage or symptoms wouldnt need full protocol to achieve sufficiency. Someone with advanced cancer might need 100mg of Iodine. Or even 200mg. It's all variable.

Autism protocols (which are typically comprehensive) are geared toward what has been found to help autistic kids so combining the 2 makes sense.

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The Iodine Protocol

50 mg Iodine

Vitamin C - 3,000 mg per day

300-600 mg magnesium oxide

200 mcg selenium

500 mg niacin (B3) twice a day (NOT niacinamide)

100 mg Vitamin B2 three times a day.

A comprehensive vitamin and nutrition program.

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The last one is the most important. Comprehensive nutrition program.

Note: I dont get the mag oxide recommendation, but that might be cause i know its not very effective and it makes my stomach hurt whereas mag citrate or mag malate sooths, but thats what it says.

Some think mixing Vit C and Iodine should be avoided. The C changes the iodine to iodide and so the body has to work to change it back. And with our kids we know they have issues with bioavailability so avoiding that step is probably good.

If detoxing badly, in addition to the salt, Magnesium Chloride transdermally works for many. Easiest way to give the body enough mag with no digestive irritation, too. Very calming and soothing.

Keep in mind that when iodine sufficiency is obtained(believed to be 3 to 6 months depending on iodine dosage) the need for some of these supplements can change. The lack of Iodine has effected the availability of other minerals so once that is fixed the body is able to utilize all others more effectively, so less may be needed depending on

I hope somewhere in there is your answer ;-) I am rambling again. Just so hard to explain in 10 words or less!

Cheryl

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>

> Cheryl,

>

> Thank you so much for that. I read every word. Just a quick question about companion supps (because that's where the confusion lies for me). Like I said, I'll be giving this to three-year-olds. You told me how to start out slow with the iodine, but how do I know how much of the other supps to give? Also, do you give the supps at the same time as the iodine or is it better to space them out? And, when/if severe detox symptoms occur, do you load up on any other supps or just the salts? My Lugols should get here tomorrow and I just want to be prepared. Thanks again for all the great info!

>

>

> - Kirk-