Re: what happened today

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It feels like you feel guilty for not having a salad...or am I reading into this? So what if you ate noodles and rice?My problem for me would be that those buffets tend to be greasy and that's not the way I like to feel after I eat. How did you feel? Sometimes you might choose fast food. So what?Tonight the girls and I went out to dinner. We brought a huge amount of food home with us because we had soup, an entree, and dessert. The waitress was amused because I ordered dessert, nad two bites, and asked for a box. It was all I wanted then. I had another few bites hours later. We have enough food to last through the weekend I think. But everyone was satisfied!Patti

I more or less waited until I was hungry to eat breakfast. I had my usual, half of a whole wheat bagel and spread (hummus & other stuff). I left the house and wanted to get the lunch special curry chicken, but before that I had to go to an iPod class. Anyway, by the time I got to the lunch special it was too late and I was famished. And very tired. So I went to the Chinese buffet because I was too tired to think about making something at home. I teased myself briefy thinking that they had salads, etc. and I could have that to fill up on before I got to the rice, noodles and blah blah. I suppose the only good thing about the buffet was that I stopped eating before I got sick. I was really really full but I hadn't had watermelon for a long time and I took a piece of that, even after I really had enough (plenty) to eat. In the past I would have stuffed myself, and although I did get too full I did stop and not keep eating whatever else I liked. When I got home I went to sleep because I was very tired, and I noticed that about 4 1/2 hours later I began to think about food again. I am not on a diet, but I am trying to make choices that will satisfy both my thinking ability (my mind) and my body. So I had celery sticks with hummus because I am working to cut out some salt (even though the chinese food is reeking with salt). Giving this some thought, I think that next time I have such hunger I am going to a restaurant (not a buffet) that serves eggs and toast or something like that. I gotta think this through. I didn't want fast food, although I could have had that. I really need to find a restaurant that will serve a simple meal.

[Guest guest]

It feels like you feel guilty for not having a salad...or am I reading into this? So what if you ate noodles and rice?My problem for me would be that those buffets tend to be greasy and that's not the way I like to feel after I eat. How did you feel? Sometimes you might choose fast food. So what?Tonight the girls and I went out to dinner. We brought a huge amount of food home with us because we had soup, an entree, and dessert. The waitress was amused because I ordered dessert, nad two bites, and asked for a box. It was all I wanted then. I had another few bites hours later. We have enough food to last through the weekend I think. But everyone was satisfied!Patti

I more or less waited until I was hungry to eat breakfast. I had my usual, half of a whole wheat bagel and spread (hummus & other stuff). I left the house and wanted to get the lunch special curry chicken, but before that I had to go to an iPod class. Anyway, by the time I got to the lunch special it was too late and I was famished. And very tired. So I went to the Chinese buffet because I was too tired to think about making something at home. I teased myself briefy thinking that they had salads, etc. and I could have that to fill up on before I got to the rice, noodles and blah blah. I suppose the only good thing about the buffet was that I stopped eating before I got sick. I was really really full but I hadn't had watermelon for a long time and I took a piece of that, even after I really had enough (plenty) to eat. In the past I would have stuffed myself, and although I did get too full I did stop and not keep eating whatever else I liked. When I got home I went to sleep because I was very tired, and I noticed that about 4 1/2 hours later I began to think about food again. I am not on a diet, but I am trying to make choices that will satisfy both my thinking ability (my mind) and my body. So I had celery sticks with hummus because I am working to cut out some salt (even though the chinese food is reeking with salt). Giving this some thought, I think that next time I have such hunger I am going to a restaurant (not a buffet) that serves eggs and toast or something like that. I gotta think this through. I didn't want fast food, although I could have had that. I really need to find a restaurant that will serve a simple meal.

[Guest guest]

It feels like you feel guilty for not having a salad...or am I reading into this? So what if you ate noodles and rice?My problem for me would be that those buffets tend to be greasy and that's not the way I like to feel after I eat. How did you feel? Sometimes you might choose fast food. So what?Tonight the girls and I went out to dinner. We brought a huge amount of food home with us because we had soup, an entree, and dessert. The waitress was amused because I ordered dessert, nad two bites, and asked for a box. It was all I wanted then. I had another few bites hours later. We have enough food to last through the weekend I think. But everyone was satisfied!Patti

I more or less waited until I was hungry to eat breakfast. I had my usual, half of a whole wheat bagel and spread (hummus & other stuff). I left the house and wanted to get the lunch special curry chicken, but before that I had to go to an iPod class. Anyway, by the time I got to the lunch special it was too late and I was famished. And very tired. So I went to the Chinese buffet because I was too tired to think about making something at home. I teased myself briefy thinking that they had salads, etc. and I could have that to fill up on before I got to the rice, noodles and blah blah. I suppose the only good thing about the buffet was that I stopped eating before I got sick. I was really really full but I hadn't had watermelon for a long time and I took a piece of that, even after I really had enough (plenty) to eat. In the past I would have stuffed myself, and although I did get too full I did stop and not keep eating whatever else I liked. When I got home I went to sleep because I was very tired, and I noticed that about 4 1/2 hours later I began to think about food again. I am not on a diet, but I am trying to make choices that will satisfy both my thinking ability (my mind) and my body. So I had celery sticks with hummus because I am working to cut out some salt (even though the chinese food is reeking with salt). Giving this some thought, I think that next time I have such hunger I am going to a restaurant (not a buffet) that serves eggs and toast or something like that. I gotta think this through. I didn't want fast food, although I could have had that. I really need to find a restaurant that will serve a simple meal.

[Guest guest]

Tai, it sounds like you had a good day overall -- the Chinese buffet can be

tricky, but you caught the overthinking trap that can make our lives harder, so

good for you. In this area there are a lot of small cafes in strip malls that

are only open for breakfast and lunch and many of them are quite good, serving

good, simple food in reasonable portions.

" I didn't want fast food, although I could have had that. I really need to find

a restaurant that will serve a simple meal. "

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[Guest guest]

Tai, it sounds like you had a good day overall -- the Chinese buffet can be

tricky, but you caught the overthinking trap that can make our lives harder, so

good for you. In this area there are a lot of small cafes in strip malls that

are only open for breakfast and lunch and many of them are quite good, serving

good, simple food in reasonable portions.

" I didn't want fast food, although I could have had that. I really need to find

a restaurant that will serve a simple meal. "

>

[Guest guest]

Patti - "It feels like you feel guilty for not having a salad...or am I reading into this? So what if you ate noodles and rice?

My problem for me would be that those buffets tend to be greasy and that's not the way I like to feel after I eat. How did you feel? Sometimes you might choose fast food. So what?"

Well, I teased myself into telling myself that I could always start with the salads, but I really knew I was going for the rice and noodles and other greasy stuff. True, I didn't knock myself out with eating until I was sick, but I just about got to that point So I wasn't really happy. I'd really like to think about what WOULD have made me happy -- and I do know it wasn't the chinese buffet choices I made. Although it was good tasting. I am sure that if I had something delicious in a pot waiting for me at home I would have done that. So perhaps that is what I need to work on. (having a meal ready that I really like ... again, I'll have to think harder about this because I am trying to stay away from meats and salty foods. Not an easy prospect. == But, let it be known, I'm NOT dieting..)

Patti - "Tonight the girls and I went out to dinner. We brought a huge amount of food home with us because we had soup, an entree, and dessert. The waitress was amused because I ordered dessert, nad two bites, and asked for a box. It was all I wanted then. I had another few bites hours later. "

Good for you, Patti! That type of meal is easier for me to bring home with me because I've paid for it and can stop without thinking I've paid for something I'm not going to eat. (such as the buffet and so that is why I teased myself saying I would first go for the salads) The restaurant that serves good soup to dessert for one price is the one I avoided because the main manager (not his assistant) is so awful, but the main manager is usually there dinnertime, I think he is part owner of the place -- and the waitresses, while professional, do not have that welcoming attitude they should have (they do this with all the customers -- people take it because I guess that is the norm around here and they don't expect much more). I notice more so lately that "little things" like that hold me back from the big picture sometimes in different areas of life. When I was younger, I never thought about things like that (personalities). I

have noticed the lack of customer service skills with many, even those who work at big warehouse stores -- they grunt, uh, and oh and really lack social skills to make a customer feel good. But anyway that's another subject. Just that it was a deterrent in choosing the more appropriate restaurant yesterday. Today I'm home and while I have something in the house to enjoy it's much easier to make proper choices.

[Guest guest]

Patti - "It feels like you feel guilty for not having a salad...or am I reading into this? So what if you ate noodles and rice?

My problem for me would be that those buffets tend to be greasy and that's not the way I like to feel after I eat. How did you feel? Sometimes you might choose fast food. So what?"

Well, I teased myself into telling myself that I could always start with the salads, but I really knew I was going for the rice and noodles and other greasy stuff. True, I didn't knock myself out with eating until I was sick, but I just about got to that point So I wasn't really happy. I'd really like to think about what WOULD have made me happy -- and I do know it wasn't the chinese buffet choices I made. Although it was good tasting. I am sure that if I had something delicious in a pot waiting for me at home I would have done that. So perhaps that is what I need to work on. (having a meal ready that I really like ... again, I'll have to think harder about this because I am trying to stay away from meats and salty foods. Not an easy prospect. == But, let it be known, I'm NOT dieting..)

Patti - "Tonight the girls and I went out to dinner. We brought a huge amount of food home with us because we had soup, an entree, and dessert. The waitress was amused because I ordered dessert, nad two bites, and asked for a box. It was all I wanted then. I had another few bites hours later. "

Good for you, Patti! That type of meal is easier for me to bring home with me because I've paid for it and can stop without thinking I've paid for something I'm not going to eat. (such as the buffet and so that is why I teased myself saying I would first go for the salads) The restaurant that serves good soup to dessert for one price is the one I avoided because the main manager (not his assistant) is so awful, but the main manager is usually there dinnertime, I think he is part owner of the place -- and the waitresses, while professional, do not have that welcoming attitude they should have (they do this with all the customers -- people take it because I guess that is the norm around here and they don't expect much more). I notice more so lately that "little things" like that hold me back from the big picture sometimes in different areas of life. When I was younger, I never thought about things like that (personalities). I

have noticed the lack of customer service skills with many, even those who work at big warehouse stores -- they grunt, uh, and oh and really lack social skills to make a customer feel good. But anyway that's another subject. Just that it was a deterrent in choosing the more appropriate restaurant yesterday. Today I'm home and while I have something in the house to enjoy it's much easier to make proper choices.

[Guest guest]

Patti - "It feels like you feel guilty for not having a salad...or am I reading into this? So what if you ate noodles and rice?

My problem for me would be that those buffets tend to be greasy and that's not the way I like to feel after I eat. How did you feel? Sometimes you might choose fast food. So what?"

Well, I teased myself into telling myself that I could always start with the salads, but I really knew I was going for the rice and noodles and other greasy stuff. True, I didn't knock myself out with eating until I was sick, but I just about got to that point So I wasn't really happy. I'd really like to think about what WOULD have made me happy -- and I do know it wasn't the chinese buffet choices I made. Although it was good tasting. I am sure that if I had something delicious in a pot waiting for me at home I would have done that. So perhaps that is what I need to work on. (having a meal ready that I really like ... again, I'll have to think harder about this because I am trying to stay away from meats and salty foods. Not an easy prospect. == But, let it be known, I'm NOT dieting..)

I guess what I hear is "I should eat a salad first." why? Whose rule is that? Why is it a rule? In many countries they eat the salad last. Or why not with?

I think if you really wanted the salad and they offered it, you would have eaten it, which is why I suspect you felt you should eat the salad but it wasn't what you wanted. Patti

[Guest guest]

Patti - "It feels like you feel guilty for not having a salad...or am I reading into this? So what if you ate noodles and rice?

My problem for me would be that those buffets tend to be greasy and that's not the way I like to feel after I eat. How did you feel? Sometimes you might choose fast food. So what?"

Well, I teased myself into telling myself that I could always start with the salads, but I really knew I was going for the rice and noodles and other greasy stuff. True, I didn't knock myself out with eating until I was sick, but I just about got to that point So I wasn't really happy. I'd really like to think about what WOULD have made me happy -- and I do know it wasn't the chinese buffet choices I made. Although it was good tasting. I am sure that if I had something delicious in a pot waiting for me at home I would have done that. So perhaps that is what I need to work on. (having a meal ready that I really like ... again, I'll have to think harder about this because I am trying to stay away from meats and salty foods. Not an easy prospect. == But, let it be known, I'm NOT dieting..)

I guess what I hear is "I should eat a salad first." why? Whose rule is that? Why is it a rule? In many countries they eat the salad last. Or why not with?

I think if you really wanted the salad and they offered it, you would have eaten it, which is why I suspect you felt you should eat the salad but it wasn't what you wanted. Patti

[Guest guest]

No, I guess the salad was not really what I wanted, although I will have salads from time and time. Tai

To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2011 11:39 AMSubject: Re: what happened today

Patti - "It feels like you feel guilty for not having a salad...or am I reading into this? So what if you ate noodles and rice?

My problem for me would be that those buffets tend to be greasy and that's not the way I like to feel after I eat. How did you feel? Sometimes you might choose fast food. So what?"

Well, I teased myself into telling myself that I could always start with the salads, but I really knew I was going for the rice and noodles and other greasy stuff. True, I didn't knock myself out with eating until I was sick, but I just about got to that point So I wasn't really happy. I'd really like to think about what WOULD have made me happy -- and I do know it wasn't the chinese buffet choices I made. Although it was good tasting. I am sure that if I had something delicious in a pot waiting for me at home I would have done that. So perhaps that is what I need to work on. (having a meal ready that I really like ... again, I'll have to think harder about this because I am trying to stay away from meats and salty foods. Not an easy prospect. == But, let it be known, I'm NOT dieting..)

I guess what I hear is "I should eat a salad first." why? Whose rule is that? Why is it a rule? In many countries they eat the salad last. Or why not with?

I think if you really wanted the salad and they offered it, you would have eaten it, which is why I suspect you felt you should eat the salad but it wasn't what you wanted.

Patti

[Guest guest]

No, I guess the salad was not really what I wanted, although I will have salads from time and time. Tai

To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2011 11:39 AMSubject: Re: what happened today

Patti - "It feels like you feel guilty for not having a salad...or am I reading into this? So what if you ate noodles and rice?

My problem for me would be that those buffets tend to be greasy and that's not the way I like to feel after I eat. How did you feel? Sometimes you might choose fast food. So what?"

Well, I teased myself into telling myself that I could always start with the salads, but I really knew I was going for the rice and noodles and other greasy stuff. True, I didn't knock myself out with eating until I was sick, but I just about got to that point So I wasn't really happy. I'd really like to think about what WOULD have made me happy -- and I do know it wasn't the chinese buffet choices I made. Although it was good tasting. I am sure that if I had something delicious in a pot waiting for me at home I would have done that. So perhaps that is what I need to work on. (having a meal ready that I really like ... again, I'll have to think harder about this because I am trying to stay away from meats and salty foods. Not an easy prospect. == But, let it be known, I'm NOT dieting..)

I guess what I hear is "I should eat a salad first." why? Whose rule is that? Why is it a rule? In many countries they eat the salad last. Or why not with?

I think if you really wanted the salad and they offered it, you would have eaten it, which is why I suspect you felt you should eat the salad but it wasn't what you wanted.

Patti

[Guest guest]

No, I guess the salad was not really what I wanted, although I will have salads from time and time. Tai

To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2011 11:39 AMSubject: Re: what happened today

Patti - "It feels like you feel guilty for not having a salad...or am I reading into this? So what if you ate noodles and rice?

My problem for me would be that those buffets tend to be greasy and that's not the way I like to feel after I eat. How did you feel? Sometimes you might choose fast food. So what?"

Well, I teased myself into telling myself that I could always start with the salads, but I really knew I was going for the rice and noodles and other greasy stuff. True, I didn't knock myself out with eating until I was sick, but I just about got to that point So I wasn't really happy. I'd really like to think about what WOULD have made me happy -- and I do know it wasn't the chinese buffet choices I made. Although it was good tasting. I am sure that if I had something delicious in a pot waiting for me at home I would have done that. So perhaps that is what I need to work on. (having a meal ready that I really like ... again, I'll have to think harder about this because I am trying to stay away from meats and salty foods. Not an easy prospect. == But, let it be known, I'm NOT dieting..)

I guess what I hear is "I should eat a salad first." why? Whose rule is that? Why is it a rule? In many countries they eat the salad last. Or why not with?

I think if you really wanted the salad and they offered it, you would have eaten it, which is why I suspect you felt you should eat the salad but it wasn't what you wanted.

Patti

[Guest guest]

Actually, I did have what I wanted. Did I feel guilty about it? Yes, slightly, because I knew it would be too tempting for me to stay away from loading up on the rice and noodles and other stuff. Especially because it was handy and I was very hungry and tired. And while I'm not counting calories, I try to make choices that are good for me, that are not loaded down with grease and salt. Yesterday I was tired and hungry and today I am not so tired and hungry to eat at a place that I feel is not in my best interest, no matter how easy it is or how much I enjoy the food. Next time the hard rock choice comes up, I will hopefully be thinking of another place. Thanks for your input, I appreciate it and it made me think. :-) Tai

To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2011 11:39 AMSubject: Re: what happened today

Patti - "It feels like you feel guilty for not having a salad...or am I reading into this? So what if you ate noodles and rice?

My problem for me would be that those buffets tend to be greasy and that's not the way I like to feel after I eat. How did you feel? Sometimes you might choose fast food. So what?"

Well, I teased myself into telling myself that I could always start with the salads, but I really knew I was going for the rice and noodles and other greasy stuff. True, I didn't knock myself out with eating until I was sick, but I just about got to that point So I wasn't really happy. I'd really like to think about what WOULD have made me happy -- and I do know it wasn't the chinese buffet choices I made. Although it was good tasting. I am sure that if I had something delicious in a pot waiting for me at home I would have done that. So perhaps that is what I need to work on. (having a meal ready that I really like ... again, I'll have to think harder about this because I am trying to stay away from meats and salty foods. Not an easy prospect. == But, let it be known, I'm NOT dieting..)

I guess what I hear is "I should eat a salad first." why? Whose rule is that? Why is it a rule? In many countries they eat the salad last. Or why not with?

I think if you really wanted the salad and they offered it, you would have eaten it, which is why I suspect you felt you should eat the salad but it wasn't what you wanted.

Patti

[Guest guest]

Actually, I did have what I wanted. Did I feel guilty about it? Yes, slightly, because I knew it would be too tempting for me to stay away from loading up on the rice and noodles and other stuff. Especially because it was handy and I was very hungry and tired. And while I'm not counting calories, I try to make choices that are good for me, that are not loaded down with grease and salt. Yesterday I was tired and hungry and today I am not so tired and hungry to eat at a place that I feel is not in my best interest, no matter how easy it is or how much I enjoy the food. Next time the hard rock choice comes up, I will hopefully be thinking of another place. Thanks for your input, I appreciate it and it made me think. :-) Tai

To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2011 11:39 AMSubject: Re: what happened today

Patti - "It feels like you feel guilty for not having a salad...or am I reading into this? So what if you ate noodles and rice?

My problem for me would be that those buffets tend to be greasy and that's not the way I like to feel after I eat. How did you feel? Sometimes you might choose fast food. So what?"

Well, I teased myself into telling myself that I could always start with the salads, but I really knew I was going for the rice and noodles and other greasy stuff. True, I didn't knock myself out with eating until I was sick, but I just about got to that point So I wasn't really happy. I'd really like to think about what WOULD have made me happy -- and I do know it wasn't the chinese buffet choices I made. Although it was good tasting. I am sure that if I had something delicious in a pot waiting for me at home I would have done that. So perhaps that is what I need to work on. (having a meal ready that I really like ... again, I'll have to think harder about this because I am trying to stay away from meats and salty foods. Not an easy prospect. == But, let it be known, I'm NOT dieting..)

I guess what I hear is "I should eat a salad first." why? Whose rule is that? Why is it a rule? In many countries they eat the salad last. Or why not with?

I think if you really wanted the salad and they offered it, you would have eaten it, which is why I suspect you felt you should eat the salad but it wasn't what you wanted.

Patti

[Guest guest]

Actually, I did have what I wanted. Did I feel guilty about it? Yes, slightly, because I knew it would be too tempting for me to stay away from loading up on the rice and noodles and other stuff. Especially because it was handy and I was very hungry and tired. And while I'm not counting calories, I try to make choices that are good for me, that are not loaded down with grease and salt. Yesterday I was tired and hungry and today I am not so tired and hungry to eat at a place that I feel is not in my best interest, no matter how easy it is or how much I enjoy the food. Next time the hard rock choice comes up, I will hopefully be thinking of another place. Thanks for your input, I appreciate it and it made me think. :-) Tai

To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2011 11:39 AMSubject: Re: what happened today

Patti - "It feels like you feel guilty for not having a salad...or am I reading into this? So what if you ate noodles and rice?

My problem for me would be that those buffets tend to be greasy and that's not the way I like to feel after I eat. How did you feel? Sometimes you might choose fast food. So what?"

Well, I teased myself into telling myself that I could always start with the salads, but I really knew I was going for the rice and noodles and other greasy stuff. True, I didn't knock myself out with eating until I was sick, but I just about got to that point So I wasn't really happy. I'd really like to think about what WOULD have made me happy -- and I do know it wasn't the chinese buffet choices I made. Although it was good tasting. I am sure that if I had something delicious in a pot waiting for me at home I would have done that. So perhaps that is what I need to work on. (having a meal ready that I really like ... again, I'll have to think harder about this because I am trying to stay away from meats and salty foods. Not an easy prospect. == But, let it be known, I'm NOT dieting..)

I guess what I hear is "I should eat a salad first." why? Whose rule is that? Why is it a rule? In many countries they eat the salad last. Or why not with?

I think if you really wanted the salad and they offered it, you would have eaten it, which is why I suspect you felt you should eat the salad but it wasn't what you wanted.

Patti

[Guest guest]

No, I guess the salad was not really what I wanted, although I will have salads from time and time. Tai

Sure! That seems normal to me. I have one rule which is I think about if it will taste good, and if it won't, I won't eat it. I can't eat potatoes (or I pay for it and I choose to stick to that.) but I love onion rings. Unfortunately, they frequently suck. So I try to remember who has good ones and that's the only time I order them. I figure there is limited space in my gullet so why waste it on ick. One thing I'm working on is a good cauliflower recipe. I love aloo gobi but I can't have the potatoes. Cauliflower is a veggie I can have without suffering so I'm trying to find that ultimate cauliflower recipe. I'm open to suggestions. Please don't tell me to mash it like potatoes. I think that's dreadful. I like aloo gobi because it takes away the cabbagey flavor. TIA!Patti

[Guest guest]

Patti -

Have you tried roasting cauliflower? Cut it into florets, mix with some olive

oil, salt and pepper and roast in a 450 oven for about 1/2 hour. Mix around

halfway through.

It makes it sweet and delicious. That's how I prepare most of my vegetables.

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> > No, I guess the salad was not really what I wanted, although I will have

salads from time and time. Tai

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> Sure! That seems normal to me.

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> I have one rule which is I think about if it will taste good, and if it won't,

I won't eat it. I can't eat potatoes (or I pay for it and I choose to stick to

that.) but I love onion rings. Unfortunately, they frequently suck. So I try to

remember who has good ones and that's the only time I order them. I figure there

is limited space in my gullet so why waste it on ick.

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> One thing I'm working on is a good cauliflower recipe. I love aloo gobi but I

can't have the potatoes. Cauliflower is a veggie I can have without suffering

so I'm trying to find that ultimate cauliflower recipe. I'm open to suggestions.

Please don't tell me to mash it like potatoes. I think that's dreadful. I like

aloo gobi because it takes away the cabbagey flavor.

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> TIA!

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> Patti

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[Guest guest]

Patti, I can appreciate what you said, as a matter of fact, because we eat out so much, I'm literally keeping a diary of which restaurants I eat at and what I ordered and I rate the food because so often the food stinks. And then we go back in a few months and I forgot what I ordered and I order the same thing again and it is awful, so now I'm keeping a list of the places we visit and the food I ate and I give it marks sometimes with comments.

I try not to waste myself on food I really don't like. Good onion rings are hard to find -- and I never tried to make them myself. The first time I tasted onion rings I thought the concept was great, but as you said, they are often gooey and gobbly with a little piece of onion in them. I generally don't order them, but if someone else does I might ask if I can have one. I love cooking with lemon juice and I even will put lemon juice in chicken soup, for me it makes it taste terrific. Also, I love cilantro and will add it to many dishes. :-) Take care. Tai

To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 12:25 AMSubject: Re: what happened today

No, I guess the salad was not really what I wanted, although I will have salads from time and time. Tai

Sure! That seems normal to me.

I have one rule which is I think about if it will taste good, and if it won't, I won't eat it. I can't eat potatoes (or I pay for it and I choose to stick to that.) but I love onion rings. Unfortunately, they frequently suck. So I try to remember who has good ones and that's the only time I order them. I figure there is limited space in my gullet so why waste it on ick.

One thing I'm working on is a good cauliflower recipe. I love aloo gobi but I can't have the potatoes. Cauliflower is a veggie I can have without suffering so I'm trying to find that ultimate cauliflower recipe. I'm open to suggestions. Please don't tell me to mash it like potatoes. I think that's dreadful. I like aloo gobi because it takes away the cabbagey flavor.

TIA!

Patti

[Guest guest]

Patti, I can appreciate what you said, as a matter of fact, because we eat out so much, I'm literally keeping a diary of which restaurants I eat at and what I ordered and I rate the food because so often the food stinks. And then we go back in a few months and I forgot what I ordered and I order the same thing again and it is awful, so now I'm keeping a list of the places we visit and the food I ate and I give it marks sometimes with comments.

I try not to waste myself on food I really don't like. Good onion rings are hard to find -- and I never tried to make them myself. The first time I tasted onion rings I thought the concept was great, but as you said, they are often gooey and gobbly with a little piece of onion in them. I generally don't order them, but if someone else does I might ask if I can have one. I love cooking with lemon juice and I even will put lemon juice in chicken soup, for me it makes it taste terrific. Also, I love cilantro and will add it to many dishes. :-) Take care. Tai

To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 12:25 AMSubject: Re: what happened today

No, I guess the salad was not really what I wanted, although I will have salads from time and time. Tai

Sure! That seems normal to me.

I have one rule which is I think about if it will taste good, and if it won't, I won't eat it. I can't eat potatoes (or I pay for it and I choose to stick to that.) but I love onion rings. Unfortunately, they frequently suck. So I try to remember who has good ones and that's the only time I order them. I figure there is limited space in my gullet so why waste it on ick.

One thing I'm working on is a good cauliflower recipe. I love aloo gobi but I can't have the potatoes. Cauliflower is a veggie I can have without suffering so I'm trying to find that ultimate cauliflower recipe. I'm open to suggestions. Please don't tell me to mash it like potatoes. I think that's dreadful. I like aloo gobi because it takes away the cabbagey flavor.

TIA!

Patti

[Guest guest]

Although this is difficult, from my perspective you might have an easier time of intuitive eating and avoiding overeating if you truly equate the greasy/salty Chinese food with the salad. If they are truly equal in your eyes, it would be easier not to have that "last supper" eating and then promising yourself that you will do better next time and get something lighter. At least that's how it worked for me. When the breakfast of potato chips is absolutely equal to the breakfast of oatmeal, I don't have to go crazy over potato chips anymore.

I also try very hard not to be subtly critical of myself by saying things like, "I really loaded up on greasy food." That would make me rebel and continue to be "bad." You ate the Chinese food because that's what you wanted and you can eat it again whenever you want, and in whatever quantities satisfy you. That's the only way I am able to free myself of overeating, and I am by no means perfect at it.

Mimi

Patti - "It feels like you feel guilty for not having a salad...or am I reading into this? So what if you ate noodles and rice?

My problem for me would be that those buffets tend to be greasy and that's not the way I like to feel after I eat. How did you feel? Sometimes you might choose fast food. So what?"

Well, I teased myself into telling myself that I could always start with the salads, but I really knew I was going for the rice and noodles and other greasy stuff. True, I didn't knock myself out with eating until I was sick, but I just about got to that point So I wasn't really happy. I'd really like to think about what WOULD have made me happy -- and I do know it wasn't the chinese buffet choices I made. Although it was good tasting. I am sure that if I had something delicious in a pot waiting for me at home I would have done that. So perhaps that is what I need to work on. (having a meal ready that I really like ... again, I'll have to think harder about this because I am trying to stay away from meats and salty foods. Not an easy prospect. == But, let it be known, I'm NOT dieting..)

I guess what I hear is "I should eat a salad first." why? Whose rule is that? Why is it a rule? In many countries they eat the salad last. Or why not with?

I think if you really wanted the salad and they offered it, you would have eaten it, which is why I suspect you felt you should eat the salad but it wasn't what you wanted.

Patti

[Guest guest]

Although this is difficult, from my perspective you might have an easier time of intuitive eating and avoiding overeating if you truly equate the greasy/salty Chinese food with the salad. If they are truly equal in your eyes, it would be easier not to have that "last supper" eating and then promising yourself that you will do better next time and get something lighter. At least that's how it worked for me. When the breakfast of potato chips is absolutely equal to the breakfast of oatmeal, I don't have to go crazy over potato chips anymore.

I also try very hard not to be subtly critical of myself by saying things like, "I really loaded up on greasy food." That would make me rebel and continue to be "bad." You ate the Chinese food because that's what you wanted and you can eat it again whenever you want, and in whatever quantities satisfy you. That's the only way I am able to free myself of overeating, and I am by no means perfect at it.

Mimi

Patti - "It feels like you feel guilty for not having a salad...or am I reading into this? So what if you ate noodles and rice?

My problem for me would be that those buffets tend to be greasy and that's not the way I like to feel after I eat. How did you feel? Sometimes you might choose fast food. So what?"

Well, I teased myself into telling myself that I could always start with the salads, but I really knew I was going for the rice and noodles and other greasy stuff. True, I didn't knock myself out with eating until I was sick, but I just about got to that point So I wasn't really happy. I'd really like to think about what WOULD have made me happy -- and I do know it wasn't the chinese buffet choices I made. Although it was good tasting. I am sure that if I had something delicious in a pot waiting for me at home I would have done that. So perhaps that is what I need to work on. (having a meal ready that I really like ... again, I'll have to think harder about this because I am trying to stay away from meats and salty foods. Not an easy prospect. == But, let it be known, I'm NOT dieting..)

I guess what I hear is "I should eat a salad first." why? Whose rule is that? Why is it a rule? In many countries they eat the salad last. Or why not with?

I think if you really wanted the salad and they offered it, you would have eaten it, which is why I suspect you felt you should eat the salad but it wasn't what you wanted.

Patti