Re: Re: Bromelain, a Natural Pain Reliever--Rheumax

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Geoff, would you tell us what is in RheuMax?

Thanks,

rheumatic Re: Bromelain, a Natural Pain Reliever

> > Where did you get the statistic that Bromelain is only

> > effective for 1-3% of people with RA? Please point us

> > to the studies that you refer to. Same for RA Spes.

> >

> > Thanks!

>

> Harald,

>

> I've been on the list rather a long time now. I remember the

> bromelain information from previous postings as it was of peculiar

> importance to me personally. It may or may not be available

> through the archives at since before that the list was moved

> twice at least and any previous archives did not transition.

> You'll have to trudge through it all for yourself if you're so

> inclined. (You would have gotten quite a howl out of watching me

> try to consume pound after pound of pineapple fruit, only to find

> out later the bromelain is in the stem!)

>

> As to the RA Spes, if you are particularly interested in that

> product, www.healingyou.org did go to the effort and expense of

> posting some material of a double-blind study for that on the Web

> site due to the outstanding efficacy reported by all who tried it.

> You can find that by going to http://www.healingyou.org/, clicking

> [search] in the top menu and doing a [search for information]

> using RA Spes as the qualifier.

>

> Over the course of several months, many of us " old-timers " on the

> list corresponded and shared research off-list in an effort to

> find a replacement for RAS (RA Spes). We developed a plan to find,

> test, report and, if appropriate, recommend a replacement chiefly

> because RAS was so expensive. It just so happened at the same time

> we were preparing to test RheuMax, the product that we did

> eventually recommend as a replacement for RAS, that RAS went out

> of production. Interestingly, RheuMax had been available by that

> time for just over a year.

>

> We organized a test group of volunteers from this list to do an

> informal antecdotal test of RheuMax over a period of 30 days, in

> keeping with the plan we'd established above. The results of that

> test were compiled and sent to the list along with a

> recommendation for RheuMax as being, " known good. " That

> information s/be in the archives, if you are interested.

>

> The results of RheuMax closely mirror those of RAS, which is not

> surprising since it is a 'generational improvement' over RAS by

> the same man who formulated RAS in the first place. It has very

> similar properties, i.e.,

> DMARD;

> pain reducing;

> flexibility improving;

> antiinflammatory;

> immune-enhancing;

> etc., etc.

>

> RAS was found over several years use to reverse and enhance

> reversal in many areas of damage from RA; RheuMax gave,and

> continues to give, every indication of doing the same. Our general

> conclusion, however, in supervising the informal evaluation and

> compiling antecdotal information over three or four years was

> that, as good as RAS and RheuMax are, we did not feel they will

> " cure " RA, nor did the Chief Scientist who formulated them.

>

> What RheuMax does and RAS did was tend to make RA a " non-issue " in

> peoples' lives, returning them to the life and vibrancy they

> enjoyed before coming down with the disease. They did and continue

> to produce remission in many people over time.

>

> But remission is most properly translated as 'sleep.'

>

> Our consensus was that remission is not enough, cure is the key

> and for that the mycoplasma were still the target and the AP was

> still felt to be the best show in town. Many of that same group of

> people are still actively pursuing alternatives for attacking the

> mycoplasma, as was Dr. Brown years ago - it just so happend that

> the tetracyclines were " the only game in town " then.

>

> In conference with the Chief Scientist who formulated RAS, we were

> told RheuMax had been undergoing a double-blind study for over a

> year that was not yet published, He said, and we have seen, that

> the scientific community in general is openly hostile to herbals

> and he felt it best to have a full 2-year study prior to

> publication. We accepted his assertion that were the study to be

> published at that time, the results for RheuMax would mimic or

> better RAS in all areas. Based on his comments, HealingYou.org

> left the RAS study up for review as an indicator of what one could

> reasonably expect from RheuMax. Again, that information, as well

> as the product, is available at the nonprofit setup for our list

> members, http://www.healingyou.org/.

>

>

> Regards, -----------------------

> Geoff ** Usual Disclaimers **

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Hi ! Geoff Crenshaw here.

Re: rheumatic Re: Bromelain, a Natural Pain Reliever--RheuMax

>

> Geoff, would you tell us what is in RheuMax?

Orientvine Stem

Decumbent Corydalis Tuber

Red Peony Root

Marasmius androsaceus Fr.

Notoginseng

The above information is from the HealingYou Web site. You can find more

thorough details about what each of these things do by going to

http://www.healingyou.org/, and either clicking:

Articles of Interest

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Product Information : NaturePharm : RheuMax

or by clicking [search] on the top menu, [search for information] and

selecting RheuMax Information, which came up as document 5 when I looked for

it. If you go via the " Articles of Interest " there is also a hyperlink to a

small index called " Herbs & Functions. " You may find that informative as

well, although hardly exhaustive nor complete. (It is very much a " work in

progress. " )

The effectiveness of all herbs in any form, be they teas, poultices,

compounds, refined medicines, etc., are dictated by how they are prepared.

Preparation is the key. That is why we ran into so much trouble trying to

clone stuff; you can't do it unless you know exactly what part is being

used, precisely how it is being prepared and lastly the exact ratios. You

can't just grab a bunch of plants, mix them up together and have the same

thing - it doesn't work that way.

HTH!

Geoff

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