Guest guest Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 I think those are really good thoughts to ponder. Growing up with an abusive parent totally disconnected in the love department, invalidating me every step of the way, I grew up accepting bad behavior in my mates, I believed them when they said it was me and so put up with their " stuff " much longer than I should have. Something I have noticed recently is the types of partners I attract...they all have narcisistic or borderline personality traits or they turn out to be addicted. Now, I'm a lot older and when I spot them, I'm quick to end things in a BIG NO THANK YOU. I'd rather be alone than in a bad relationship. I do notice the couples too but with my NPD/BPD magnet energy going on, I refuse to date. I'm staying off of the market until I'm ready and I'm just not ready. For the first time in 3 very long years, my home is so peaceful. There is no one telling me what to do. There is no one laying guilt trips on me for being who I am. There is no one gloating about what a trophy I am to others while they bash and attack me when no one else is around. The last one with NPD characteristics...I spotted after knowing him for only a few days. I told him good bye and I got nothing but guilt texts because he was in love with me (AFTER A FEW DAYS?! - and why should I stay and be miserable just because of how he feels?!) I had a couple of exes before that that acted the same way. I felt this little feeling right in the pit of my stomach like when nada violated my boundaries. I now know that is my sign! I do not fear people. I love them with all of my heart. I can't even say I fear dating. I think I am just enjoying this peace so much I have lost all interest. I understand what you're saying though. Every now and then I get those twinges of interest but they do pass. I just dive in deeper into my spiritual studies and focus even harder on restoring me to complete health so I will be the kind of partner I want in another. And if anyone shows up with these traits - I run: 1. They seem overly open and revealing establishing a false sense of trust by telling stories that amazingly seem to match your own - they also ask a lot of personal questions about your past (digging for weapons to use against you later) - that is the unhealthy attachment and is NOT a connection. 2. Their ex girlfriend/wife was a drug addict, NPD or BPD personality and will go into great detail about how horrible and vulgar or mean their ex was(I don't believe them - they are usually the NPD or BPD and the fact that they are talking about it and the way they totally make themselves out to be a victim that makes me think so - its the way they do it). 3. They come on with too much flattery like they are trying to win me over without really even getting to know who I am. 4. They are overly helpful in offering to do things for me right off (and you can feel the strings coming) 5. They buy way too expensive gifts for the time you've been involved (I knew one for a couple weeks and he wanted to buy me furniture - I thought it was sweet - it was an NPD hook). 6. The insults come pretty quick in an offhanded way and the way the insults come is not focused on behavior but rather making you feel bad about who you are. 7. Tells you they are falling in love with you after too short a period of time (days or a week or 2 - so flattering but so NOT real). 8. Irrational issues that make it clear they are perceiving things in a twisted way that makes you feel violated while they are telling you you do this to them - it's your fault they are feeling bad. Okay, this is just a taste of the horrible emotional battering to come - RUN! LOL The above is all I've run into when attempting to date at all these last 3 years. I'm sorry but I am not interested. I will gladly wait for one who takes a normal approach of one day at a time dating...honest communication that establishes a connection versus overly open " hook " and someone willing to take the time to get to know who I am before they start talking about love. Growing up with nada really made me a sensitive, nurturing, compassionate, non-confrontational person. I attract my exact opposite. There is a reason that NPD/BPDs are attracted to co-dependents! So, until I can be sure I'm not heading down a dangerous emotional path with a psychopath, I'm not dating! I'm focusing on me...and yeah, it would be nice to have someone to love but I want to hold out for someone who truly loves me for me. He's not come along yet. I trust he will when I'm ready. Until then, I'm loving this freedom. If my Mister right is out there, he probably shouldn't take too long. I am really enjoying the peace, freedom, conflict free, drama free, healthy environment I've created for myself. I may never want to give that up. LOL I've set goals for myself in terms of dating. Maybe thats what you might consider too. If you are attracting the wrong kind, it's great to focus on your healing for a while undistracted and focus on friends and self only for a time. When you are truly ready, put the goal down on paper - what do you want in another person - stick to that list, focus on that list - feel really good about you and attracting those qualities on your list in your next mate. It will happen when you are truly ready. I have found this to be true many times over the years. Hang in there and Happy Holidays!!!! Jaie > > Just want to sidetrack for a moment before I get into the nitty gritty of my security...First off, I want to say I really APPRECIATE these boards this time of year. I currently have no contact with my any family (some of them chose no contact with me to side with Nada) and this is the second xmas I've spent with friends and I'm really enjoying it. I received 2 Christmas invites, and I was already invited to 2 Christmas parties where i had way more fun and relaxation than I ever would in my family environment.I am most GRATEFUL for the quality time I've been having, and I'm enjoying my life. It is becoming richer with time and healing. > > But I also have been having this other nagging insecurity (it was here already)...it is intensified during the holidays where a lot of the social gatherings I attend are comprised of couples. I'm trying to work my way through it. I'm not lonely or desperately searching for anyone. In fact, I am fine with remaining single. > > But... > > Here goes: it feels like I am never able to attract a stable significant person (romantically) into my life. If I do, it doesn't last long. They either get flaky on me, are only around to have a good time (but try to convince me otherwise for one thing or another), or they are confused and cannot make up their mind and I begin to get mixed signals and more flakiness. It's definitely put me off dating and I stopped thinking about it for a while. > > I know I need to heal some more and work on myself. My needs are very strong right now and I don't have a lot to give. Perhaps this is why I feel I do not attract a lot of people towards me? It's not so much that I am trying to date at this point--and it has nothing to do with loneliness...but it is making me wonder and wondering about it causing insecurity in the way people perceive me. > > I am the type of person who does not ask for much because of my upbringing with Nada, so its not like I'm grabbing the coat tails of anyone who walks by and scaring them off...but I feel people must sense something about me...as if they know I'm not " grounded " , and the thought of this makes me uncomfortable. I don't want to have invisible writing on my forehead that says " take advantage of me " or " slim pickings " . The thought of this scares me so much that it makes me worried to ever go out again. > > I had a friend who once who told me that one year, all these people just " came out of the woods " , and she was attracting a variety of people who were really making an effort to get to know her. When before, there was a total dry spell. This phenomenon totally makes me wonder what " vibes " im giving off about myself. > > Perhaps it will help me figure out how much healing I actually have left to do. > > Plus, I don't like feeling like people's " last resort " date. > > Has anyone else felt this way or wondered about this sort of stuff? > > Joy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 Hello Jaie, Thank you for your response. It sounds like you can really relate to this " phenomenon " . I am going to follow your advice and just focus on myself, and on friends for awhile. Funny, right before I read this a guy from one of my recovery groups tried to ask me out. He uses the group as a thing we have in common. I can see where this is headed, and I swore to myself I'm not going to date a person in a recovery program that I attend. Last time this happened (yes, I did) it did not end well and i was embarressed to show my face there and it impeded my recovery. Less drama sounds like a good thing. Joy > > > > Just want to sidetrack for a moment before I get into the nitty gritty of my security...First off, I want to say I really APPRECIATE these boards this time of year. I currently have no contact with my any family (some of them chose no contact with me to side with Nada) and this is the second xmas I've spent with friends and I'm really enjoying it. I received 2 Christmas invites, and I was already invited to 2 Christmas parties where i had way more fun and relaxation than I ever would in my family environment.I am most GRATEFUL for the quality time I've been having, and I'm enjoying my life. It is becoming richer with time and healing. > > > > But I also have been having this other nagging insecurity (it was here already)...it is intensified during the holidays where a lot of the social gatherings I attend are comprised of couples. I'm trying to work my way through it. I'm not lonely or desperately searching for anyone. In fact, I am fine with remaining single. > > > > But... > > > > Here goes: it feels like I am never able to attract a stable significant person (romantically) into my life. If I do, it doesn't last long. They either get flaky on me, are only around to have a good time (but try to convince me otherwise for one thing or another), or they are confused and cannot make up their mind and I begin to get mixed signals and more flakiness. It's definitely put me off dating and I stopped thinking about it for a while. > > > > I know I need to heal some more and work on myself. My needs are very strong right now and I don't have a lot to give. Perhaps this is why I feel I do not attract a lot of people towards me? It's not so much that I am trying to date at this point--and it has nothing to do with loneliness...but it is making me wonder and wondering about it causing insecurity in the way people perceive me. > > > > I am the type of person who does not ask for much because of my upbringing with Nada, so its not like I'm grabbing the coat tails of anyone who walks by and scaring them off...but I feel people must sense something about me...as if they know I'm not " grounded " , and the thought of this makes me uncomfortable. I don't want to have invisible writing on my forehead that says " take advantage of me " or " slim pickings " . The thought of this scares me so much that it makes me worried to ever go out again. > > > > I had a friend who once who told me that one year, all these people just " came out of the woods " , and she was attracting a variety of people who were really making an effort to get to know her. When before, there was a total dry spell. This phenomenon totally makes me wonder what " vibes " im giving off about myself. > > > > Perhaps it will help me figure out how much healing I actually have left to do. > > > > Plus, I don't like feeling like people's " last resort " date. > > > > Has anyone else felt this way or wondered about this sort of stuff? > > > > Joy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 Hello Jaie, Thank you for your response. It sounds like you can really relate to this " phenomenon " . I am going to follow your advice and just focus on myself, and on friends for awhile. Funny, right before I read this a guy from one of my recovery groups tried to ask me out. He uses the group as a thing we have in common. I can see where this is headed, and I swore to myself I'm not going to date a person in a recovery program that I attend. Last time this happened (yes, I did) it did not end well and i was embarressed to show my face there and it impeded my recovery. Less drama sounds like a good thing. Joy > > > > Just want to sidetrack for a moment before I get into the nitty gritty of my security...First off, I want to say I really APPRECIATE these boards this time of year. I currently have no contact with my any family (some of them chose no contact with me to side with Nada) and this is the second xmas I've spent with friends and I'm really enjoying it. I received 2 Christmas invites, and I was already invited to 2 Christmas parties where i had way more fun and relaxation than I ever would in my family environment.I am most GRATEFUL for the quality time I've been having, and I'm enjoying my life. It is becoming richer with time and healing. > > > > But I also have been having this other nagging insecurity (it was here already)...it is intensified during the holidays where a lot of the social gatherings I attend are comprised of couples. I'm trying to work my way through it. I'm not lonely or desperately searching for anyone. In fact, I am fine with remaining single. > > > > But... > > > > Here goes: it feels like I am never able to attract a stable significant person (romantically) into my life. If I do, it doesn't last long. They either get flaky on me, are only around to have a good time (but try to convince me otherwise for one thing or another), or they are confused and cannot make up their mind and I begin to get mixed signals and more flakiness. It's definitely put me off dating and I stopped thinking about it for a while. > > > > I know I need to heal some more and work on myself. My needs are very strong right now and I don't have a lot to give. Perhaps this is why I feel I do not attract a lot of people towards me? It's not so much that I am trying to date at this point--and it has nothing to do with loneliness...but it is making me wonder and wondering about it causing insecurity in the way people perceive me. > > > > I am the type of person who does not ask for much because of my upbringing with Nada, so its not like I'm grabbing the coat tails of anyone who walks by and scaring them off...but I feel people must sense something about me...as if they know I'm not " grounded " , and the thought of this makes me uncomfortable. I don't want to have invisible writing on my forehead that says " take advantage of me " or " slim pickings " . The thought of this scares me so much that it makes me worried to ever go out again. > > > > I had a friend who once who told me that one year, all these people just " came out of the woods " , and she was attracting a variety of people who were really making an effort to get to know her. When before, there was a total dry spell. This phenomenon totally makes me wonder what " vibes " im giving off about myself. > > > > Perhaps it will help me figure out how much healing I actually have left to do. > > > > Plus, I don't like feeling like people's " last resort " date. > > > > Has anyone else felt this way or wondered about this sort of stuff? > > > > Joy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 Hello Jaie, Thank you for your response. It sounds like you can really relate to this " phenomenon " . I am going to follow your advice and just focus on myself, and on friends for awhile. Funny, right before I read this a guy from one of my recovery groups tried to ask me out. He uses the group as a thing we have in common. I can see where this is headed, and I swore to myself I'm not going to date a person in a recovery program that I attend. Last time this happened (yes, I did) it did not end well and i was embarressed to show my face there and it impeded my recovery. Less drama sounds like a good thing. Joy > > > > Just want to sidetrack for a moment before I get into the nitty gritty of my security...First off, I want to say I really APPRECIATE these boards this time of year. I currently have no contact with my any family (some of them chose no contact with me to side with Nada) and this is the second xmas I've spent with friends and I'm really enjoying it. I received 2 Christmas invites, and I was already invited to 2 Christmas parties where i had way more fun and relaxation than I ever would in my family environment.I am most GRATEFUL for the quality time I've been having, and I'm enjoying my life. It is becoming richer with time and healing. > > > > But I also have been having this other nagging insecurity (it was here already)...it is intensified during the holidays where a lot of the social gatherings I attend are comprised of couples. I'm trying to work my way through it. I'm not lonely or desperately searching for anyone. In fact, I am fine with remaining single. > > > > But... > > > > Here goes: it feels like I am never able to attract a stable significant person (romantically) into my life. If I do, it doesn't last long. They either get flaky on me, are only around to have a good time (but try to convince me otherwise for one thing or another), or they are confused and cannot make up their mind and I begin to get mixed signals and more flakiness. It's definitely put me off dating and I stopped thinking about it for a while. > > > > I know I need to heal some more and work on myself. My needs are very strong right now and I don't have a lot to give. Perhaps this is why I feel I do not attract a lot of people towards me? It's not so much that I am trying to date at this point--and it has nothing to do with loneliness...but it is making me wonder and wondering about it causing insecurity in the way people perceive me. > > > > I am the type of person who does not ask for much because of my upbringing with Nada, so its not like I'm grabbing the coat tails of anyone who walks by and scaring them off...but I feel people must sense something about me...as if they know I'm not " grounded " , and the thought of this makes me uncomfortable. I don't want to have invisible writing on my forehead that says " take advantage of me " or " slim pickings " . The thought of this scares me so much that it makes me worried to ever go out again. > > > > I had a friend who once who told me that one year, all these people just " came out of the woods " , and she was attracting a variety of people who were really making an effort to get to know her. When before, there was a total dry spell. This phenomenon totally makes me wonder what " vibes " im giving off about myself. > > > > Perhaps it will help me figure out how much healing I actually have left to do. > > > > Plus, I don't like feeling like people's " last resort " date. > > > > Has anyone else felt this way or wondered about this sort of stuff? > > > > Joy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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