Re: Bad reaction to folinic acid

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Try super low and slowly work your way up. Some people with methylation issues can't tolerate folic/folinic - so that's somethin to consider. I'm interested in any responses you may get - my son's dan wants us to do a trial of 5mthf even though we've agreed to stop the b12. I never think to email him and ask why until this subject comes up. I'm going to go do that now......From: jkryan34

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Thu, January 27, 2011 6:01:00 PMSubject: Bad reaction to folinic acid

My son's new DAN just prescribed 200mcg of folinic acid in addition to his mb12 which he has been on for 2 months. While his behavior improved on the mb12 significantly, he became overly sensitive, weepy, clingy with OCD. His DAN wanted him to try folinic acid again even though I told her that in the past, it made him extremely hyper. She wants me to try it for a month! Today, after taking 200 mcg of folinic acid for 3 days, he got in trouble at school for being "too goofy." This means very stimmy and disruptive to the class (he hasn't been in trouble since Sept.) Has anyone else had this experience w/ folinic acid? I am so frustrated.... Am I really supposed to allow my son to get in trouble at school? How can I try this for a month? I feel like his doctors are not listening to me!

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My dd has been like that with Vit E.  Nothing but problems everytime I introduce it again and with high Vit E foods (although, admittedly, a lot of the high Vit E things we would have is quite high in oxalates).  I wonder if your son's reaction to folinic acid could be attributed to yeast?  My dd's yeast seems to get worse with folinic acid and MB12.

 

My son's new DAN just prescribed 200mcg of folinic acid in addition to his mb12 which he has been on for 2 months. While his behavior improved on the mb12 significantly, he became overly sensitive, weepy, clingy with OCD. His DAN wanted him to try folinic acid again even though I told her that in the past, it made him extremely hyper. She wants me to try it for a month! Today, after taking 200 mcg of folinic acid for 3 days, he got in trouble at school for being " too goofy. " This means very stimmy and disruptive to the class (he hasn't been in trouble since Sept.) Has anyone else had this experience w/ folinic acid? I am so frustrated.... Am I really supposed to allow my son to get in trouble at school? How can I try this for a month? I feel like his doctors are not listening to me!

[Guest guest]

My dd has been like that with Vit E.  Nothing but problems everytime I introduce it again and with high Vit E foods (although, admittedly, a lot of the high Vit E things we would have is quite high in oxalates).  I wonder if your son's reaction to folinic acid could be attributed to yeast?  My dd's yeast seems to get worse with folinic acid and MB12.

 

My son's new DAN just prescribed 200mcg of folinic acid in addition to his mb12 which he has been on for 2 months. While his behavior improved on the mb12 significantly, he became overly sensitive, weepy, clingy with OCD. His DAN wanted him to try folinic acid again even though I told her that in the past, it made him extremely hyper. She wants me to try it for a month! Today, after taking 200 mcg of folinic acid for 3 days, he got in trouble at school for being " too goofy. " This means very stimmy and disruptive to the class (he hasn't been in trouble since Sept.) Has anyone else had this experience w/ folinic acid? I am so frustrated.... Am I really supposed to allow my son to get in trouble at school? How can I try this for a month? I feel like his doctors are not listening to me!

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I say if he was doing great on the MB12 remove the folinic......some kids just

can't tolerate....and you have to live!

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Kasey Dettinger

---- Alberta wrote:

> My dd has been like that with Vit E. Nothing but problems everytime I

> introduce it again and with high Vit E foods (although, admittedly, a lot of

> the high Vit E things we would have is quite high in oxalates).

>

> I wonder if your son's reaction to folinic acid could be attributed to

> yeast? My dd's yeast seems to get worse with folinic acid and MB12.

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> > My son's new DAN just prescribed 200mcg of folinic acid in addition to his

> > mb12 which he has been on for 2 months. While his behavior improved on the

> > mb12 significantly, he became overly sensitive, weepy, clingy with OCD. His

> > DAN wanted him to try folinic acid again even though I told her that in the

> > past, it made him extremely hyper. She wants me to try it for a month!

> > Today, after taking 200 mcg of folinic acid for 3 days, he got in trouble at

> > school for being " too goofy. " This means very stimmy and disruptive to the

> > class (he hasn't been in trouble since Sept.) Has anyone else had this

> > experience w/ folinic acid? I am so frustrated.... Am I really supposed to

> > allow my son to get in trouble at school? How can I try this for a month? I

> > feel like his doctors are not listening to me!

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[Guest guest]

You might also consider switching to 5mthf or folapro instead of folinic. It's a more bioavailable form and many that do terribly on folinic do better with 5mthf or folapro.

Cheryl ~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~~@Gryffins_Tail~

I say if he was doing great on the MB12 remove the folinic......some kids just can't tolerate....and you have to live!

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Kasey Dettinger

---- Alberta wrote:

> My dd has been like that with Vit E. Nothing but problems everytime I

> introduce it again and with high Vit E foods (although, admittedly, a lot of

> the high Vit E things we would have is quite high in oxalates).

>

> I wonder if your son's reaction to folinic acid could be attributed to

> yeast? My dd's yeast seems to get worse with folinic acid and MB12.

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> > My son's new DAN just prescribed 200mcg of folinic acid in addition to his

> > mb12 which he has been on for 2 months. While his behavior improved on the

> > mb12 significantly, he became overly sensitive, weepy, clingy with OCD. His

> > DAN wanted him to try folinic acid again even though I told her that in the

> > past, it made him extremely hyper. She wants me to try it for a month!

> > Today, after taking 200 mcg of folinic acid for 3 days, he got in trouble at

> > school for being "too goofy." This means very stimmy and disruptive to the

> > class (he hasn't been in trouble since Sept.) Has anyone else had this

> > experience w/ folinic acid? I am so frustrated.... Am I really supposed to

> > allow my son to get in trouble at school? How can I try this for a month? I

> > feel like his doctors are not listening to me!

> >

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> >

[Guest guest]

You might also consider switching to 5mthf or folapro instead of folinic. It's a more bioavailable form and many that do terribly on folinic do better with 5mthf or folapro.

Cheryl ~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~~@Gryffins_Tail~

I say if he was doing great on the MB12 remove the folinic......some kids just can't tolerate....and you have to live!

--

Kasey Dettinger

---- Alberta wrote:

> My dd has been like that with Vit E. Nothing but problems everytime I

> introduce it again and with high Vit E foods (although, admittedly, a lot of

> the high Vit E things we would have is quite high in oxalates).

>

> I wonder if your son's reaction to folinic acid could be attributed to

> yeast? My dd's yeast seems to get worse with folinic acid and MB12.

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> > My son's new DAN just prescribed 200mcg of folinic acid in addition to his

> > mb12 which he has been on for 2 months. While his behavior improved on the

> > mb12 significantly, he became overly sensitive, weepy, clingy with OCD. His

> > DAN wanted him to try folinic acid again even though I told her that in the

> > past, it made him extremely hyper. She wants me to try it for a month!

> > Today, after taking 200 mcg of folinic acid for 3 days, he got in trouble at

> > school for being "too goofy." This means very stimmy and disruptive to the

> > class (he hasn't been in trouble since Sept.) Has anyone else had this

> > experience w/ folinic acid? I am so frustrated.... Am I really supposed to

> > allow my son to get in trouble at school? How can I try this for a month? I

> > feel like his doctors are not listening to me!

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

what brand are you trying?

From: jkryan34

Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 6:01 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Bad reaction to folinic acid

My son's new DAN just prescribed 200mcg of folinic acid in addition to his mb12 which he has been on for 2 months. While his behavior improved on the mb12 significantly, he became overly sensitive, weepy, clingy with OCD. His DAN wanted him to try folinic acid again even though I told her that in the past, it made him extremely hyper. She wants me to try it for a month! Today, after taking 200 mcg of folinic acid for 3 days, he got in trouble at school for being "too goofy." This means very stimmy and disruptive to the class (he hasn't been in trouble since Sept.) Has anyone else had this experience w/ folinic acid? I am so frustrated.... Am I really supposed to allow my son to get in trouble at school? How can I try this for a month? I feel like his doctors are not listening to me!

[Guest guest]

what brand are you trying?

From: jkryan34

Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 6:01 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Bad reaction to folinic acid

My son's new DAN just prescribed 200mcg of folinic acid in addition to his mb12 which he has been on for 2 months. While his behavior improved on the mb12 significantly, he became overly sensitive, weepy, clingy with OCD. His DAN wanted him to try folinic acid again even though I told her that in the past, it made him extremely hyper. She wants me to try it for a month! Today, after taking 200 mcg of folinic acid for 3 days, he got in trouble at school for being "too goofy." This means very stimmy and disruptive to the class (he hasn't been in trouble since Sept.) Has anyone else had this experience w/ folinic acid? I am so frustrated.... Am I really supposed to allow my son to get in trouble at school? How can I try this for a month? I feel like his doctors are not listening to me!

[Guest guest]

Kirkman

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> what brand are you trying?

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> From: jkryan34

> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 6:01 PM

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Subject: Bad reaction to folinic acid

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> My son's new DAN just prescribed 200mcg of folinic acid in addition to his

mb12 which he has been on for 2 months. While his behavior improved on the mb12

significantly, he became overly sensitive, weepy, clingy with OCD. His DAN

wanted him to try folinic acid again even though I told her that in the past, it

made him extremely hyper. She wants me to try it for a month! Today, after

taking 200 mcg of folinic acid for 3 days, he got in trouble at school for being

" too goofy. " This means very stimmy and disruptive to the class (he hasn't been

in trouble since Sept.) Has anyone else had this experience w/ folinic acid? I

am so frustrated.... Am I really supposed to allow my son to get in trouble at

school? How can I try this for a month? I feel like his doctors are not

listening to me!

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you, everyone, for all of your responses and suggestions. Christel, I've

heard that before. Do you know why he does so great on Folapro? I'm starting to

look into the Yasko Protocol since my son does not tolerate many supplements

that are so helpful to others. Whenever he doesn't do well on a supplement, I

want to know why because I feel like that's so important to solving this puzzle.

Does your son tolerate B6? Mine does not, and I've been trying to figure out why

for the longest time. Most DAN doctors and nurses have just said to stay away

from it, but he's deficient in B6, and I feel he needs it. I really wish his

doctor would help me figure out why he doesn't tolerate B6! Thank you again for

your insights.

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> > what brand are you trying?

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> > From: jkryan34

> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 6:01 PM

> > To: mb12 valtrex

> > Subject: Bad reaction to folinic acid

> >

> >

> >

> > My son's new DAN just prescribed 200mcg of folinic acid in addition to his

mb12 which he has been on for 2 months. While his behavior improved on the mb12

significantly, he became overly sensitive, weepy, clingy with OCD. His DAN

wanted him to try folinic acid again even though I told her that in the past, it

made him extremely hyper. She wants me to try it for a month! Today, after

taking 200 mcg of folinic acid for 3 days, he got in trouble at school for being

" too goofy. " This means very stimmy and disruptive to the class (he hasn't been

in trouble since Sept.) Has anyone else had this experience w/ folinic acid? I

am so frustrated.... Am I really supposed to allow my son to get in trouble at

school? How can I try this for a month? I feel like his doctors are not

listening to me!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you, everyone, for all of your responses and suggestions. Christel, I've

heard that before. Do you know why he does so great on Folapro? I'm starting to

look into the Yasko Protocol since my son does not tolerate many supplements

that are so helpful to others. Whenever he doesn't do well on a supplement, I

want to know why because I feel like that's so important to solving this puzzle.

Does your son tolerate B6? Mine does not, and I've been trying to figure out why

for the longest time. Most DAN doctors and nurses have just said to stay away

from it, but he's deficient in B6, and I feel he needs it. I really wish his

doctor would help me figure out why he doesn't tolerate B6! Thank you again for

your insights.

> >

> > what brand are you trying?

> >

> >

> >

> > From: jkryan34

> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 6:01 PM

> > To: mb12 valtrex

> > Subject: Bad reaction to folinic acid

> >

> >

> >

> > My son's new DAN just prescribed 200mcg of folinic acid in addition to his

mb12 which he has been on for 2 months. While his behavior improved on the mb12

significantly, he became overly sensitive, weepy, clingy with OCD. His DAN

wanted him to try folinic acid again even though I told her that in the past, it

made him extremely hyper. She wants me to try it for a month! Today, after

taking 200 mcg of folinic acid for 3 days, he got in trouble at school for being

" too goofy. " This means very stimmy and disruptive to the class (he hasn't been

in trouble since Sept.) Has anyone else had this experience w/ folinic acid? I

am so frustrated.... Am I really supposed to allow my son to get in trouble at

school? How can I try this for a month? I feel like his doctors are not

listening to me!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you, everyone, for all of your responses and suggestions. Christel, I've

heard that before. Do you know why he does so great on Folapro? I'm starting to

look into the Yasko Protocol since my son does not tolerate many supplements

that are so helpful to others. Whenever he doesn't do well on a supplement, I

want to know why because I feel like that's so important to solving this puzzle.

Does your son tolerate B6? Mine does not, and I've been trying to figure out why

for the longest time. Most DAN doctors and nurses have just said to stay away

from it, but he's deficient in B6, and I feel he needs it. I really wish his

doctor would help me figure out why he doesn't tolerate B6! Thank you again for

your insights.

> >

> > what brand are you trying?

> >

> >

> >

> > From: jkryan34

> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 6:01 PM

> > To: mb12 valtrex

> > Subject: Bad reaction to folinic acid

> >

> >

> >

> > My son's new DAN just prescribed 200mcg of folinic acid in addition to his

mb12 which he has been on for 2 months. While his behavior improved on the mb12

significantly, he became overly sensitive, weepy, clingy with OCD. His DAN

wanted him to try folinic acid again even though I told her that in the past, it

made him extremely hyper. She wants me to try it for a month! Today, after

taking 200 mcg of folinic acid for 3 days, he got in trouble at school for being

" too goofy. " This means very stimmy and disruptive to the class (he hasn't been

in trouble since Sept.) Has anyone else had this experience w/ folinic acid? I

am so frustrated.... Am I really supposed to allow my son to get in trouble at

school? How can I try this for a month? I feel like his doctors are not

listening to me!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

He hasn't had failure to thrive but is in the 25th percentile for weight (75th

for height). However, he is only 4 pounds heavier than his younger brother (they

are 2 1/2 years apart). I feel like he should be heavier. He is also 2 pounds

lighter than I was when I was his age (He is 5 1/2 now and weighs between 38 and

39 lbs). He does have poor muscle tone I think. I have tried the B6 in

pyrodoxine and P5P forms AND combined with the magnesium (Kirkman brand). No

matter how much or how little I give him, he becomes an emotional mess- very

depressed, weepy w/ meltdowns, mean, and obsessive. It's awful to see. I feel he

must have some genetic polymorphisms going that Yasko talks about. So

frustrating when your child needs a nutrient but cannot tolerate it. Many things

seem to make him worse like B6, methyl b12, folinic acid, and DHA.

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> > > what brand are you trying?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > From: jkryan34

> > > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 6:01 PM

> > > To: mb12 valtrex

> > > Subject: Bad reaction to folinic acid

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > My son's new DAN just prescribed 200mcg of folinic acid in addition to his

mb12 which he has been on for 2 months. While his behavior improved on the mb12

significantly, he became overly sensitive, weepy, clingy with OCD. His DAN

wanted him to try folinic acid again even though I told her that in the past, it

made him extremely hyper. She wants me to try it for a month! Today, after

taking 200 mcg of folinic acid for 3 days, he got in trouble at school for being

" too goofy. " This means very stimmy and disruptive to the class (he hasn't been

in trouble since Sept.) Has anyone else had this experience w/ folinic acid? I

am so frustrated.... Am I really supposed to allow my son to get in trouble at

school? How can I try this for a month? I feel like his doctors are not

listening to me!

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

He hasn't had failure to thrive but is in the 25th percentile for weight (75th

for height). However, he is only 4 pounds heavier than his younger brother (they

are 2 1/2 years apart). I feel like he should be heavier. He is also 2 pounds

lighter than I was when I was his age (He is 5 1/2 now and weighs between 38 and

39 lbs). He does have poor muscle tone I think. I have tried the B6 in

pyrodoxine and P5P forms AND combined with the magnesium (Kirkman brand). No

matter how much or how little I give him, he becomes an emotional mess- very

depressed, weepy w/ meltdowns, mean, and obsessive. It's awful to see. I feel he

must have some genetic polymorphisms going that Yasko talks about. So

frustrating when your child needs a nutrient but cannot tolerate it. Many things

seem to make him worse like B6, methyl b12, folinic acid, and DHA.

> > >

> > > what brand are you trying?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > From: jkryan34

> > > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 6:01 PM

> > > To: mb12 valtrex

> > > Subject: Bad reaction to folinic acid

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > My son's new DAN just prescribed 200mcg of folinic acid in addition to his

mb12 which he has been on for 2 months. While his behavior improved on the mb12

significantly, he became overly sensitive, weepy, clingy with OCD. His DAN

wanted him to try folinic acid again even though I told her that in the past, it

made him extremely hyper. She wants me to try it for a month! Today, after

taking 200 mcg of folinic acid for 3 days, he got in trouble at school for being

" too goofy. " This means very stimmy and disruptive to the class (he hasn't been

in trouble since Sept.) Has anyone else had this experience w/ folinic acid? I

am so frustrated.... Am I really supposed to allow my son to get in trouble at

school? How can I try this for a month? I feel like his doctors are not

listening to me!

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