Re: Warning - whiney rant from down place in my IE journey

September 12, 2011

Katcha,

Thanks for posting that. I think long-time IEers' challenges are really informative for those of us just starting out. It's life and life has its ups and downs and we can't expect perfection all the time. Plus, I like to think that you can't really "mess up" IE. When you overeat, you learn something about yourself to take better care of yourself for next time. A win-win. I'm glad you realized that you needed to give yourself a break and are taking steps to do so. Knowing when to let things go is such a difficult skill to learn.

I had a bit of a similar "I'm not doing well" moment this weekend. I started waiting too long to eat after I was hungry. I kept thinking, "oh I'm not really that hungry" and waiting, until I became ravenous and inhaled a vending machine pack of Doritos and then some Hershey's kisses.I was OK with the Doritos b/c I was hungry and they really hit the spot, but I really didn't want the chocolate. I'm rarely attracted to sweets, but I ate them anyway. That evening, my husband and I went out for burgers and I finished my meal even though I was clearly not hungry. That was followed by buying a bag of Chex Mix and eating those at home for no apparent reason. I think I was trying to "prove" to myself that I can still overeat if I want to. Sort of like a diet backlash. So, now I am examining whether I am using IE too much like a traditional diet with rules and regulations. The good news is that I am not beating myself up over what I did, but

just trying to move on and understand another layer of how I view food and eating.

Mimi

Subject: Warning - whiney rant from down place in my IE journeyTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 1:53 PM

There has been such a positive energy sparking in this group of late that I almost didn't want inject the 'postcard' from my IE journey. But to not do so is to deny myself recognition and processing that I probably do need at this moment.I've been in the 'you-are-NOT-doing-well (IE-wise)' wallow for a week or so. I can now see all the whys - overtired, frustrated with couple things and generally conflicted about not giving a hoot regarding required changes that would improve this 'place' that I am in. The frustration stemmed from not being able to 'get' what I wanted and having to work over hard to finally obtain 'it'. I hadn't been at all prepared to expend that much energy, but I did really want to results so I didn't let up. Great results but drained me. I also have been experiencing some frustrations with finding THE foods I want. Between nothing sounding enticing and not having whatever I wanted right at hand, I KNEW I

was grazing and settling for, neither of which really satisfied. I even granted myself a holiday - eating what had been former forbidden foods - and that only added to the negative feeling instead of comforted me. Plus I was rebelling at needing to be 'limited' by gluten free choices. Talk about danged if I do and danged if I don't! Grrrrr and whine!!The good news is that once I realized that I was mainly tired and hadn't been giving myself a break (mentally as well as physically), a lot of the de and pressing type of activity that I do internally eased up enough for me to take a 'breath'.Do today is a day OFF (well dishes have piled up - lol) and my projects will wait another day or two without the world coming to an end. As for eating, I am going to let it take care of itself too and stop 'managing' it like I tend to do - especially when I get 'pushed', which tired does to me.Thanks for being here and listening - phew! I feel

better already :-)KatchaIEing since March 2007

September 12, 2011

Katcha,

Thanks for posting that. I think long-time IEers' challenges are really informative for those of us just starting out. It's life and life has its ups and downs and we can't expect perfection all the time. Plus, I like to think that you can't really "mess up" IE. When you overeat, you learn something about yourself to take better care of yourself for next time. A win-win. I'm glad you realized that you needed to give yourself a break and are taking steps to do so. Knowing when to let things go is such a difficult skill to learn.

I had a bit of a similar "I'm not doing well" moment this weekend. I started waiting too long to eat after I was hungry. I kept thinking, "oh I'm not really that hungry" and waiting, until I became ravenous and inhaled a vending machine pack of Doritos and then some Hershey's kisses.I was OK with the Doritos b/c I was hungry and they really hit the spot, but I really didn't want the chocolate. I'm rarely attracted to sweets, but I ate them anyway. That evening, my husband and I went out for burgers and I finished my meal even though I was clearly not hungry. That was followed by buying a bag of Chex Mix and eating those at home for no apparent reason. I think I was trying to "prove" to myself that I can still overeat if I want to. Sort of like a diet backlash. So, now I am examining whether I am using IE too much like a traditional diet with rules and regulations. The good news is that I am not beating myself up over what I did, but

just trying to move on and understand another layer of how I view food and eating.

Mimi

Subject: Warning - whiney rant from down place in my IE journeyTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 1:53 PM

There has been such a positive energy sparking in this group of late that I almost didn't want inject the 'postcard' from my IE journey. But to not do so is to deny myself recognition and processing that I probably do need at this moment.I've been in the 'you-are-NOT-doing-well (IE-wise)' wallow for a week or so. I can now see all the whys - overtired, frustrated with couple things and generally conflicted about not giving a hoot regarding required changes that would improve this 'place' that I am in. The frustration stemmed from not being able to 'get' what I wanted and having to work over hard to finally obtain 'it'. I hadn't been at all prepared to expend that much energy, but I did really want to results so I didn't let up. Great results but drained me. I also have been experiencing some frustrations with finding THE foods I want. Between nothing sounding enticing and not having whatever I wanted right at hand, I KNEW I

was grazing and settling for, neither of which really satisfied. I even granted myself a holiday - eating what had been former forbidden foods - and that only added to the negative feeling instead of comforted me. Plus I was rebelling at needing to be 'limited' by gluten free choices. Talk about danged if I do and danged if I don't! Grrrrr and whine!!The good news is that once I realized that I was mainly tired and hadn't been giving myself a break (mentally as well as physically), a lot of the de and pressing type of activity that I do internally eased up enough for me to take a 'breath'.Do today is a day OFF (well dishes have piled up - lol) and my projects will wait another day or two without the world coming to an end. As for eating, I am going to let it take care of itself too and stop 'managing' it like I tend to do - especially when I get 'pushed', which tired does to me.Thanks for being here and listening - phew! I feel

better already :-)KatchaIEing since March 2007

September 12, 2011

Katcha,

Thanks for posting that. I think long-time IEers' challenges are really informative for those of us just starting out. It's life and life has its ups and downs and we can't expect perfection all the time. Plus, I like to think that you can't really "mess up" IE. When you overeat, you learn something about yourself to take better care of yourself for next time. A win-win. I'm glad you realized that you needed to give yourself a break and are taking steps to do so. Knowing when to let things go is such a difficult skill to learn.

I had a bit of a similar "I'm not doing well" moment this weekend. I started waiting too long to eat after I was hungry. I kept thinking, "oh I'm not really that hungry" and waiting, until I became ravenous and inhaled a vending machine pack of Doritos and then some Hershey's kisses.I was OK with the Doritos b/c I was hungry and they really hit the spot, but I really didn't want the chocolate. I'm rarely attracted to sweets, but I ate them anyway. That evening, my husband and I went out for burgers and I finished my meal even though I was clearly not hungry. That was followed by buying a bag of Chex Mix and eating those at home for no apparent reason. I think I was trying to "prove" to myself that I can still overeat if I want to. Sort of like a diet backlash. So, now I am examining whether I am using IE too much like a traditional diet with rules and regulations. The good news is that I am not beating myself up over what I did, but

just trying to move on and understand another layer of how I view food and eating.

Mimi

Subject: Warning - whiney rant from down place in my IE journeyTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 1:53 PM

There has been such a positive energy sparking in this group of late that I almost didn't want inject the 'postcard' from my IE journey. But to not do so is to deny myself recognition and processing that I probably do need at this moment.I've been in the 'you-are-NOT-doing-well (IE-wise)' wallow for a week or so. I can now see all the whys - overtired, frustrated with couple things and generally conflicted about not giving a hoot regarding required changes that would improve this 'place' that I am in. The frustration stemmed from not being able to 'get' what I wanted and having to work over hard to finally obtain 'it'. I hadn't been at all prepared to expend that much energy, but I did really want to results so I didn't let up. Great results but drained me. I also have been experiencing some frustrations with finding THE foods I want. Between nothing sounding enticing and not having whatever I wanted right at hand, I KNEW I

was grazing and settling for, neither of which really satisfied. I even granted myself a holiday - eating what had been former forbidden foods - and that only added to the negative feeling instead of comforted me. Plus I was rebelling at needing to be 'limited' by gluten free choices. Talk about danged if I do and danged if I don't! Grrrrr and whine!!The good news is that once I realized that I was mainly tired and hadn't been giving myself a break (mentally as well as physically), a lot of the de and pressing type of activity that I do internally eased up enough for me to take a 'breath'.Do today is a day OFF (well dishes have piled up - lol) and my projects will wait another day or two without the world coming to an end. As for eating, I am going to let it take care of itself too and stop 'managing' it like I tend to do - especially when I get 'pushed', which tired does to me.Thanks for being here and listening - phew! I feel

better already :-)KatchaIEing since March 2007

September 12, 2011

Mimi, Katcha et al: I too had a similar weekend/week actually. I wonder if some of it had to do with the 9/11 anniversary. I didn't watch/listen much of it but it was still hard to avoid. I think the whole country was feeling very emotional and I believe we can " catch " that from others. Just like when a cranky infant can cause, then feel the stress of the mother and gets more cranky. I also wonder if I have been treating IE more like a diet. Ever since the whole liver enzyme issue for me it seems as if I am binge eating. That also followed the week that I was ill and ate very little for about 5 days, no appetite, not hungry. At first I was thinking my body was making up for that, but it has not stopped, only gotten worse. I had a nice supper planned but " ruined " it with snacking all afternoon and now am just too full to eat probably any supper. I think some of this is rebellion because I now " should " lose weight and watch what I eat because of my liver. Having a very emotional week too, maybe becuase of the change in my medications. Well, I might go for a swim now or soon. That usually relaxes me. Sandy

Katcha,

Thanks for posting that. I think long-time IEers' challenges are really informative for those of us just starting out. It's life and life has its ups and downs and we can't expect perfection all the time. Plus, I like to think that you can't really " mess up " IE. When you overeat, you learn something about yourself to take better care of yourself for next time. A win-win. I'm glad you realized that you needed to give yourself a break and are taking steps to do so. Knowing when to let things go is such a difficult skill to learn.

I had a bit of a similar " I'm not doing well " moment this weekend. I started waiting too long to eat after I was hungry. I kept thinking, " oh I'm not really that hungry " and waiting, until I became ravenous and inhaled a vending machine pack of Doritos and then some Hershey's kisses.I was OK with the Doritos b/c I was hungry and they really hit the spot, but I really didn't want the chocolate. I'm rarely attracted to sweets, but I ate them anyway. That evening, my husband and I went out for burgers and I finished my meal even though I was clearly not hungry. That was followed by buying a bag of Chex Mix and eating those at home for no apparent reason. I think I was trying to " prove " to myself that I can still overeat if I want to. Sort of like a diet backlash. So, now I am examining whether I am using IE too much like a traditional diet with rules and regulations. The good news is that I am not beating myself up over what I did, but

just trying to move on and understand another layer of how I view food and eating.

Mimi

Subject: Warning - whiney rant from down place in my IE journey

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 1:53 PM

There has been such a positive energy sparking in this group of late that I almost didn't want inject the 'postcard' from my IE journey. But to not do so is to deny myself recognition and processing that I probably do need at this moment.

I've been in the 'you-are-NOT-doing-well (IE-wise)' wallow for a week or so. I can now see all the whys - overtired, frustrated with couple things and generally conflicted about not giving a hoot regarding required changes that would improve this 'place' that I am in.

The frustration stemmed from not being able to 'get' what I wanted and having to work over hard to finally obtain 'it'. I hadn't been at all prepared to expend that much energy, but I did really want to results so I didn't let up. Great results but drained me.

I also have been experiencing some frustrations with finding THE foods I want. Between nothing sounding enticing and not having whatever I wanted right at hand, I KNEW I

was grazing and settling for, neither of which really satisfied. I even granted myself a holiday - eating what had been former forbidden foods - and that only added to the negative feeling instead of comforted me. Plus I was rebelling at needing to be 'limited' by gluten free choices. Talk about danged if I do and danged if I don't! Grrrrr and whine!!

The good news is that once I realized that I was mainly tired and hadn't been giving myself a break (mentally as well as physically), a lot of the de and pressing type of activity that I do internally eased up enough for me to take a 'breath'.

Do today is a day OFF (well dishes have piled up - lol) and my projects will wait another day or two without the world coming to an end. As for eating, I am going to let it take care of itself too and stop 'managing' it like I tend to do - especially when I get 'pushed', which tired does to me.

Thanks for being here and listening - phew! I feel

better already :-)KatchaIEing since March 2007

September 12, 2011

Mimi, Katcha et al: I too had a similar weekend/week actually. I wonder if some of it had to do with the 9/11 anniversary. I didn't watch/listen much of it but it was still hard to avoid. I think the whole country was feeling very emotional and I believe we can " catch " that from others. Just like when a cranky infant can cause, then feel the stress of the mother and gets more cranky. I also wonder if I have been treating IE more like a diet. Ever since the whole liver enzyme issue for me it seems as if I am binge eating. That also followed the week that I was ill and ate very little for about 5 days, no appetite, not hungry. At first I was thinking my body was making up for that, but it has not stopped, only gotten worse. I had a nice supper planned but " ruined " it with snacking all afternoon and now am just too full to eat probably any supper. I think some of this is rebellion because I now " should " lose weight and watch what I eat because of my liver. Having a very emotional week too, maybe becuase of the change in my medications. Well, I might go for a swim now or soon. That usually relaxes me. Sandy

Katcha,

Thanks for posting that. I think long-time IEers' challenges are really informative for those of us just starting out. It's life and life has its ups and downs and we can't expect perfection all the time. Plus, I like to think that you can't really " mess up " IE. When you overeat, you learn something about yourself to take better care of yourself for next time. A win-win. I'm glad you realized that you needed to give yourself a break and are taking steps to do so. Knowing when to let things go is such a difficult skill to learn.

I had a bit of a similar " I'm not doing well " moment this weekend. I started waiting too long to eat after I was hungry. I kept thinking, " oh I'm not really that hungry " and waiting, until I became ravenous and inhaled a vending machine pack of Doritos and then some Hershey's kisses.I was OK with the Doritos b/c I was hungry and they really hit the spot, but I really didn't want the chocolate. I'm rarely attracted to sweets, but I ate them anyway. That evening, my husband and I went out for burgers and I finished my meal even though I was clearly not hungry. That was followed by buying a bag of Chex Mix and eating those at home for no apparent reason. I think I was trying to " prove " to myself that I can still overeat if I want to. Sort of like a diet backlash. So, now I am examining whether I am using IE too much like a traditional diet with rules and regulations. The good news is that I am not beating myself up over what I did, but

just trying to move on and understand another layer of how I view food and eating.

Mimi

Subject: Warning - whiney rant from down place in my IE journey

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 1:53 PM

There has been such a positive energy sparking in this group of late that I almost didn't want inject the 'postcard' from my IE journey. But to not do so is to deny myself recognition and processing that I probably do need at this moment.

I've been in the 'you-are-NOT-doing-well (IE-wise)' wallow for a week or so. I can now see all the whys - overtired, frustrated with couple things and generally conflicted about not giving a hoot regarding required changes that would improve this 'place' that I am in.

The frustration stemmed from not being able to 'get' what I wanted and having to work over hard to finally obtain 'it'. I hadn't been at all prepared to expend that much energy, but I did really want to results so I didn't let up. Great results but drained me.

I also have been experiencing some frustrations with finding THE foods I want. Between nothing sounding enticing and not having whatever I wanted right at hand, I KNEW I

was grazing and settling for, neither of which really satisfied. I even granted myself a holiday - eating what had been former forbidden foods - and that only added to the negative feeling instead of comforted me. Plus I was rebelling at needing to be 'limited' by gluten free choices. Talk about danged if I do and danged if I don't! Grrrrr and whine!!

The good news is that once I realized that I was mainly tired and hadn't been giving myself a break (mentally as well as physically), a lot of the de and pressing type of activity that I do internally eased up enough for me to take a 'breath'.

Do today is a day OFF (well dishes have piled up - lol) and my projects will wait another day or two without the world coming to an end. As for eating, I am going to let it take care of itself too and stop 'managing' it like I tend to do - especially when I get 'pushed', which tired does to me.

Thanks for being here and listening - phew! I feel

better already :-)KatchaIEing since March 2007

September 12, 2011

Mimi, Katcha et al: I too had a similar weekend/week actually. I wonder if some of it had to do with the 9/11 anniversary. I didn't watch/listen much of it but it was still hard to avoid. I think the whole country was feeling very emotional and I believe we can " catch " that from others. Just like when a cranky infant can cause, then feel the stress of the mother and gets more cranky. I also wonder if I have been treating IE more like a diet. Ever since the whole liver enzyme issue for me it seems as if I am binge eating. That also followed the week that I was ill and ate very little for about 5 days, no appetite, not hungry. At first I was thinking my body was making up for that, but it has not stopped, only gotten worse. I had a nice supper planned but " ruined " it with snacking all afternoon and now am just too full to eat probably any supper. I think some of this is rebellion because I now " should " lose weight and watch what I eat because of my liver. Having a very emotional week too, maybe becuase of the change in my medications. Well, I might go for a swim now or soon. That usually relaxes me. Sandy

Katcha,

Thanks for posting that. I think long-time IEers' challenges are really informative for those of us just starting out. It's life and life has its ups and downs and we can't expect perfection all the time. Plus, I like to think that you can't really " mess up " IE. When you overeat, you learn something about yourself to take better care of yourself for next time. A win-win. I'm glad you realized that you needed to give yourself a break and are taking steps to do so. Knowing when to let things go is such a difficult skill to learn.

I had a bit of a similar " I'm not doing well " moment this weekend. I started waiting too long to eat after I was hungry. I kept thinking, " oh I'm not really that hungry " and waiting, until I became ravenous and inhaled a vending machine pack of Doritos and then some Hershey's kisses.I was OK with the Doritos b/c I was hungry and they really hit the spot, but I really didn't want the chocolate. I'm rarely attracted to sweets, but I ate them anyway. That evening, my husband and I went out for burgers and I finished my meal even though I was clearly not hungry. That was followed by buying a bag of Chex Mix and eating those at home for no apparent reason. I think I was trying to " prove " to myself that I can still overeat if I want to. Sort of like a diet backlash. So, now I am examining whether I am using IE too much like a traditional diet with rules and regulations. The good news is that I am not beating myself up over what I did, but

just trying to move on and understand another layer of how I view food and eating.

Mimi

Subject: Warning - whiney rant from down place in my IE journey

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 1:53 PM

There has been such a positive energy sparking in this group of late that I almost didn't want inject the 'postcard' from my IE journey. But to not do so is to deny myself recognition and processing that I probably do need at this moment.

I've been in the 'you-are-NOT-doing-well (IE-wise)' wallow for a week or so. I can now see all the whys - overtired, frustrated with couple things and generally conflicted about not giving a hoot regarding required changes that would improve this 'place' that I am in.

The frustration stemmed from not being able to 'get' what I wanted and having to work over hard to finally obtain 'it'. I hadn't been at all prepared to expend that much energy, but I did really want to results so I didn't let up. Great results but drained me.

I also have been experiencing some frustrations with finding THE foods I want. Between nothing sounding enticing and not having whatever I wanted right at hand, I KNEW I

was grazing and settling for, neither of which really satisfied. I even granted myself a holiday - eating what had been former forbidden foods - and that only added to the negative feeling instead of comforted me. Plus I was rebelling at needing to be 'limited' by gluten free choices. Talk about danged if I do and danged if I don't! Grrrrr and whine!!

The good news is that once I realized that I was mainly tired and hadn't been giving myself a break (mentally as well as physically), a lot of the de and pressing type of activity that I do internally eased up enough for me to take a 'breath'.

Do today is a day OFF (well dishes have piled up - lol) and my projects will wait another day or two without the world coming to an end. As for eating, I am going to let it take care of itself too and stop 'managing' it like I tend to do - especially when I get 'pushed', which tired does to me.

Thanks for being here and listening - phew! I feel

better already :-)KatchaIEing since March 2007

September 12, 2011

Sandy,

I think your recent health situation could definitely be causing some of your binge eating now, as well as all the coverage and emotion of the 9/11 anniversary. Knowing you "should" do something can be such a huge trigger. I'll tell you, I gained the most weight I have ever gained right after I saw a nutritionist and several doctors who told me what I "had" to eat in order to avoid a recurrence of cancer. It scared the crap out of me that if I wasn't a good little girl, I could actually be responsible for a deathly illness returning. That really messed with me phychologically and I started steadily gaining weight and stopped exercising as a result of a strong and emotionally wrenching rebellion.

So, what I'm trying to say is even if you "must" lose weight for health reasons, dieting has not worked for most of us anyway. So, it's not like you're choosing between dieting and losing weight and not dieting and gaining weight. You're likely choosing between dieting and remaining the same weight (or gaining) or not dieting and remaining the same weight (or even losing). Make any sense?

Mimi

Subject: Re: Warning - whiney rant from down place in my IE journeyTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 5:16 PM

Mimi, Katcha et al: I too had a similar weekend/week actually. I wonder if some of it had to do with the 9/11 anniversary. I didn't watch/listen much of it but it was still hard to avoid. I think the whole country was feeling very emotional and I believe we can"catch" that from others. Just like when a cranky infant can cause, then feel the stress of the mother and gets more cranky. I also wonder if I have been treating IE more like a diet. Ever since the whole liver enzyme issue for me it seems as if I am binge eating. That also followed the week that I was ill and ate very little for about 5 days, no appetite, not hungry. At first I was thinking my body was making up for that, but it has not stopped, only gotten worse. I had a nice supper planned but "ruined" it with snacking all afternoon and now am just too full to eat probably any supper. I think some of this is rebellion because I now

"should" lose weight and watch what I eat because of my liver. Having a very emotional week too, maybe becuase of the change in my medications. Well, I might go for a swim now or soon. That usually relaxes me. Sandy

September 12, 2011

Sandy,

I think your recent health situation could definitely be causing some of your binge eating now, as well as all the coverage and emotion of the 9/11 anniversary. Knowing you "should" do something can be such a huge trigger. I'll tell you, I gained the most weight I have ever gained right after I saw a nutritionist and several doctors who told me what I "had" to eat in order to avoid a recurrence of cancer. It scared the crap out of me that if I wasn't a good little girl, I could actually be responsible for a deathly illness returning. That really messed with me phychologically and I started steadily gaining weight and stopped exercising as a result of a strong and emotionally wrenching rebellion.

So, what I'm trying to say is even if you "must" lose weight for health reasons, dieting has not worked for most of us anyway. So, it's not like you're choosing between dieting and losing weight and not dieting and gaining weight. You're likely choosing between dieting and remaining the same weight (or gaining) or not dieting and remaining the same weight (or even losing). Make any sense?

Mimi

Subject: Re: Warning - whiney rant from down place in my IE journeyTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 5:16 PM

Mimi, Katcha et al: I too had a similar weekend/week actually. I wonder if some of it had to do with the 9/11 anniversary. I didn't watch/listen much of it but it was still hard to avoid. I think the whole country was feeling very emotional and I believe we can"catch" that from others. Just like when a cranky infant can cause, then feel the stress of the mother and gets more cranky. I also wonder if I have been treating IE more like a diet. Ever since the whole liver enzyme issue for me it seems as if I am binge eating. That also followed the week that I was ill and ate very little for about 5 days, no appetite, not hungry. At first I was thinking my body was making up for that, but it has not stopped, only gotten worse. I had a nice supper planned but "ruined" it with snacking all afternoon and now am just too full to eat probably any supper. I think some of this is rebellion because I now

"should" lose weight and watch what I eat because of my liver. Having a very emotional week too, maybe becuase of the change in my medications. Well, I might go for a swim now or soon. That usually relaxes me. Sandy

September 12, 2011

Sandy,

I think your recent health situation could definitely be causing some of your binge eating now, as well as all the coverage and emotion of the 9/11 anniversary. Knowing you "should" do something can be such a huge trigger. I'll tell you, I gained the most weight I have ever gained right after I saw a nutritionist and several doctors who told me what I "had" to eat in order to avoid a recurrence of cancer. It scared the crap out of me that if I wasn't a good little girl, I could actually be responsible for a deathly illness returning. That really messed with me phychologically and I started steadily gaining weight and stopped exercising as a result of a strong and emotionally wrenching rebellion.

So, what I'm trying to say is even if you "must" lose weight for health reasons, dieting has not worked for most of us anyway. So, it's not like you're choosing between dieting and losing weight and not dieting and gaining weight. You're likely choosing between dieting and remaining the same weight (or gaining) or not dieting and remaining the same weight (or even losing). Make any sense?

Mimi

Subject: Re: Warning - whiney rant from down place in my IE journeyTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 5:16 PM

Mimi, Katcha et al: I too had a similar weekend/week actually. I wonder if some of it had to do with the 9/11 anniversary. I didn't watch/listen much of it but it was still hard to avoid. I think the whole country was feeling very emotional and I believe we can"catch" that from others. Just like when a cranky infant can cause, then feel the stress of the mother and gets more cranky. I also wonder if I have been treating IE more like a diet. Ever since the whole liver enzyme issue for me it seems as if I am binge eating. That also followed the week that I was ill and ate very little for about 5 days, no appetite, not hungry. At first I was thinking my body was making up for that, but it has not stopped, only gotten worse. I had a nice supper planned but "ruined" it with snacking all afternoon and now am just too full to eat probably any supper. I think some of this is rebellion because I now

"should" lose weight and watch what I eat because of my liver. Having a very emotional week too, maybe becuase of the change in my medications. Well, I might go for a swim now or soon. That usually relaxes me. Sandy

September 12, 2011

Yessss!!!

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 5:47 PMSubject: Re: Warning - whiney rant from down place in my IE journey

Sandy,

I think your recent health situation could definitely be causing some of your binge eating now, as well as all the coverage and emotion of the 9/11 anniversary. Knowing you "should" do something can be such a huge trigger. I'll tell you, I gained the most weight I have ever gained right after I saw a nutritionist and several doctors who told me what I "had" to eat in order to avoid a recurrence of cancer. It scared the crap out of me that if I wasn't a good little girl, I could actually be responsible for a deathly illness returning. That really messed with me phychologically and I started steadily gaining weight and stopped exercising as a result of a strong and emotionally wrenching rebellion.

So, what I'm trying to say is even if you "must" lose weight for health reasons, dieting has not worked for most of us anyway. So, it's not like you're choosing between dieting and losing weight and not dieting and gaining weight. You're likely choosing between dieting and remaining the same weight (or gaining) or not dieting and remaining the same weight (or even losing). Make any sense?

Mimi

Subject: Re: Warning - whiney rant from down place in my IE journeyTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 5:16 PM

Mimi, Katcha et al: I too had a similar weekend/week actually. I wonder if some of it had to do with the 9/11 anniversary. I didn't watch/listen much of it but it was still hard to avoid. I think the whole country was feeling very emotional and I believe we can"catch" that from others. Just like when a cranky infant can cause, then feel the stress of the mother and gets more cranky. I also wonder if I have been treating IE more like a diet. Ever since the whole liver enzyme issue for me it seems as if I am binge eating. That also followed the week that I was ill and ate very little for about 5 days, no appetite, not hungry. At first I was thinking my body was making up for that, but it has not stopped, only gotten worse. I had a nice supper planned but "ruined" it with snacking all afternoon and now am just too full to eat probably any supper. I think some of this is rebellion because I now

"should" lose weight and watch what I eat because of my liver. Having a very emotional week too, maybe becuase of the change in my medications. Well, I might go for a swim now or soon. That usually relaxes me. Sandy

September 12, 2011

Yessss!!!

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 5:47 PMSubject: Re: Warning - whiney rant from down place in my IE journey

Sandy,

I think your recent health situation could definitely be causing some of your binge eating now, as well as all the coverage and emotion of the 9/11 anniversary. Knowing you "should" do something can be such a huge trigger. I'll tell you, I gained the most weight I have ever gained right after I saw a nutritionist and several doctors who told me what I "had" to eat in order to avoid a recurrence of cancer. It scared the crap out of me that if I wasn't a good little girl, I could actually be responsible for a deathly illness returning. That really messed with me phychologically and I started steadily gaining weight and stopped exercising as a result of a strong and emotionally wrenching rebellion.

So, what I'm trying to say is even if you "must" lose weight for health reasons, dieting has not worked for most of us anyway. So, it's not like you're choosing between dieting and losing weight and not dieting and gaining weight. You're likely choosing between dieting and remaining the same weight (or gaining) or not dieting and remaining the same weight (or even losing). Make any sense?

Mimi

Subject: Re: Warning - whiney rant from down place in my IE journeyTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 5:16 PM

Mimi, Katcha et al: I too had a similar weekend/week actually. I wonder if some of it had to do with the 9/11 anniversary. I didn't watch/listen much of it but it was still hard to avoid. I think the whole country was feeling very emotional and I believe we can"catch" that from others. Just like when a cranky infant can cause, then feel the stress of the mother and gets more cranky. I also wonder if I have been treating IE more like a diet. Ever since the whole liver enzyme issue for me it seems as if I am binge eating. That also followed the week that I was ill and ate very little for about 5 days, no appetite, not hungry. At first I was thinking my body was making up for that, but it has not stopped, only gotten worse. I had a nice supper planned but "ruined" it with snacking all afternoon and now am just too full to eat probably any supper. I think some of this is rebellion because I now

"should" lose weight and watch what I eat because of my liver. Having a very emotional week too, maybe becuase of the change in my medications. Well, I might go for a swim now or soon. That usually relaxes me. Sandy

September 12, 2011

Yessss!!!

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 5:47 PMSubject: Re: Warning - whiney rant from down place in my IE journey

Sandy,

I think your recent health situation could definitely be causing some of your binge eating now, as well as all the coverage and emotion of the 9/11 anniversary. Knowing you "should" do something can be such a huge trigger. I'll tell you, I gained the most weight I have ever gained right after I saw a nutritionist and several doctors who told me what I "had" to eat in order to avoid a recurrence of cancer. It scared the crap out of me that if I wasn't a good little girl, I could actually be responsible for a deathly illness returning. That really messed with me phychologically and I started steadily gaining weight and stopped exercising as a result of a strong and emotionally wrenching rebellion.

So, what I'm trying to say is even if you "must" lose weight for health reasons, dieting has not worked for most of us anyway. So, it's not like you're choosing between dieting and losing weight and not dieting and gaining weight. You're likely choosing between dieting and remaining the same weight (or gaining) or not dieting and remaining the same weight (or even losing). Make any sense?

Mimi

Subject: Re: Warning - whiney rant from down place in my IE journeyTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 5:16 PM

Mimi, Katcha et al: I too had a similar weekend/week actually. I wonder if some of it had to do with the 9/11 anniversary. I didn't watch/listen much of it but it was still hard to avoid. I think the whole country was feeling very emotional and I believe we can"catch" that from others. Just like when a cranky infant can cause, then feel the stress of the mother and gets more cranky. I also wonder if I have been treating IE more like a diet. Ever since the whole liver enzyme issue for me it seems as if I am binge eating. That also followed the week that I was ill and ate very little for about 5 days, no appetite, not hungry. At first I was thinking my body was making up for that, but it has not stopped, only gotten worse. I had a nice supper planned but "ruined" it with snacking all afternoon and now am just too full to eat probably any supper. I think some of this is rebellion because I now

"should" lose weight and watch what I eat because of my liver. Having a very emotional week too, maybe becuase of the change in my medications. Well, I might go for a swim now or soon. That usually relaxes me. Sandy

September 12, 2011

Mimi, yes it makes a lot of sense and helps a lot too. And I will remind myself that even if I did nothing different, the liver issue would most likely take years to progress. It is such a slow progressing disease and at my age anything could happen before then. I will focus on not letting this get out of perspective. Thanks for the reminder that dieting doesn't work anyway. I like your statement about not dieting and remaining the same weight(or losing). Thanks. Sandy

Sandy,

I think your recent health situation could definitely be causing some of your binge eating now, as well as all the coverage and emotion of the 9/11 anniversary. Knowing you " should " do something can be such a huge trigger. I'll tell you, I gained the most weight I have ever gained right after I saw a nutritionist and several doctors who told me what I " had " to eat in order to avoid a recurrence of cancer. It scared the crap out of me that if I wasn't a good little girl, I could actually be responsible for a deathly illness returning. That really messed with me phychologically and I started steadily gaining weight and stopped exercising as a result of a strong and emotionally wrenching rebellion.

So, what I'm trying to say is even if you " must " lose weight for health reasons, dieting has not worked for most of us anyway. So, it's not like you're choosing between dieting and losing weight and not dieting and gaining weight. You're likely choosing between dieting and remaining the same weight (or gaining) or not dieting and remaining the same weight (or even losing). Make any sense?

Mimi

Subject: Re: Warning - whiney rant from down place in my IE journey

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 5:16 PM

Mimi, Katcha et al: I too had a similar weekend/week actually. I wonder if some of it had to do with the 9/11 anniversary. I didn't watch/listen much of it but it was still hard to avoid. I think the whole country was feeling very emotional and I believe we can " catch " that from others. Just like when a cranky infant can cause, then feel the stress of the mother and gets more cranky. I also wonder if I have been treating IE more like a diet. Ever since the whole liver enzyme issue for me it seems as if I am binge eating. That also followed the week that I was ill and ate very little for about 5 days, no appetite, not hungry. At first I was thinking my body was making up for that, but it has not stopped, only gotten worse. I had a nice supper planned but " ruined " it with snacking all afternoon and now am just too full to eat probably any supper. I think some of this is rebellion because I now

" should " lose weight and watch what I eat because of my liver. Having a very emotional week too, maybe becuase of the change in my medications. Well, I might go for a swim now or soon. That usually relaxes me. Sandy

September 12, 2011

Mimi, yes it makes a lot of sense and helps a lot too. And I will remind myself that even if I did nothing different, the liver issue would most likely take years to progress. It is such a slow progressing disease and at my age anything could happen before then. I will focus on not letting this get out of perspective. Thanks for the reminder that dieting doesn't work anyway. I like your statement about not dieting and remaining the same weight(or losing). Thanks. Sandy

Sandy,

I think your recent health situation could definitely be causing some of your binge eating now, as well as all the coverage and emotion of the 9/11 anniversary. Knowing you " should " do something can be such a huge trigger. I'll tell you, I gained the most weight I have ever gained right after I saw a nutritionist and several doctors who told me what I " had " to eat in order to avoid a recurrence of cancer. It scared the crap out of me that if I wasn't a good little girl, I could actually be responsible for a deathly illness returning. That really messed with me phychologically and I started steadily gaining weight and stopped exercising as a result of a strong and emotionally wrenching rebellion.

So, what I'm trying to say is even if you " must " lose weight for health reasons, dieting has not worked for most of us anyway. So, it's not like you're choosing between dieting and losing weight and not dieting and gaining weight. You're likely choosing between dieting and remaining the same weight (or gaining) or not dieting and remaining the same weight (or even losing). Make any sense?

Mimi

Subject: Re: Warning - whiney rant from down place in my IE journey

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 5:16 PM

Mimi, Katcha et al: I too had a similar weekend/week actually. I wonder if some of it had to do with the 9/11 anniversary. I didn't watch/listen much of it but it was still hard to avoid. I think the whole country was feeling very emotional and I believe we can " catch " that from others. Just like when a cranky infant can cause, then feel the stress of the mother and gets more cranky. I also wonder if I have been treating IE more like a diet. Ever since the whole liver enzyme issue for me it seems as if I am binge eating. That also followed the week that I was ill and ate very little for about 5 days, no appetite, not hungry. At first I was thinking my body was making up for that, but it has not stopped, only gotten worse. I had a nice supper planned but " ruined " it with snacking all afternoon and now am just too full to eat probably any supper. I think some of this is rebellion because I now

" should " lose weight and watch what I eat because of my liver. Having a very emotional week too, maybe becuase of the change in my medications. Well, I might go for a swim now or soon. That usually relaxes me. Sandy

September 12, 2011

Mimi, yes it makes a lot of sense and helps a lot too. And I will remind myself that even if I did nothing different, the liver issue would most likely take years to progress. It is such a slow progressing disease and at my age anything could happen before then. I will focus on not letting this get out of perspective. Thanks for the reminder that dieting doesn't work anyway. I like your statement about not dieting and remaining the same weight(or losing). Thanks. Sandy

Sandy,

I think your recent health situation could definitely be causing some of your binge eating now, as well as all the coverage and emotion of the 9/11 anniversary. Knowing you " should " do something can be such a huge trigger. I'll tell you, I gained the most weight I have ever gained right after I saw a nutritionist and several doctors who told me what I " had " to eat in order to avoid a recurrence of cancer. It scared the crap out of me that if I wasn't a good little girl, I could actually be responsible for a deathly illness returning. That really messed with me phychologically and I started steadily gaining weight and stopped exercising as a result of a strong and emotionally wrenching rebellion.

So, what I'm trying to say is even if you " must " lose weight for health reasons, dieting has not worked for most of us anyway. So, it's not like you're choosing between dieting and losing weight and not dieting and gaining weight. You're likely choosing between dieting and remaining the same weight (or gaining) or not dieting and remaining the same weight (or even losing). Make any sense?

Mimi

Subject: Re: Warning - whiney rant from down place in my IE journey

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 5:16 PM

Mimi, Katcha et al: I too had a similar weekend/week actually. I wonder if some of it had to do with the 9/11 anniversary. I didn't watch/listen much of it but it was still hard to avoid. I think the whole country was feeling very emotional and I believe we can " catch " that from others. Just like when a cranky infant can cause, then feel the stress of the mother and gets more cranky. I also wonder if I have been treating IE more like a diet. Ever since the whole liver enzyme issue for me it seems as if I am binge eating. That also followed the week that I was ill and ate very little for about 5 days, no appetite, not hungry. At first I was thinking my body was making up for that, but it has not stopped, only gotten worse. I had a nice supper planned but " ruined " it with snacking all afternoon and now am just too full to eat probably any supper. I think some of this is rebellion because I now

" should " lose weight and watch what I eat because of my liver. Having a very emotional week too, maybe becuase of the change in my medications. Well, I might go for a swim now or soon. That usually relaxes me. Sandy

September 12, 2011

Way to go Mimi! Thanks for your kind words, I learn and re-learn each day. A lot

has to do with my internalized go-go, do-it! way of living which has it good

points, but is getting to be tempered more and more as the reality of aging

(will be 61 in a bit) plays Gotcha! with me these days. I really am more at

peace about food and eating than I ever would have thought imaginable,

especially when I began IE. Not every day is it possible to keep IE fore front

when other aspects and requirements of life jump ahead in the priority line.

Thankfully IE is always patiently waiting for me to simply pick up and continue

forward.

ehugs, Katcha

IEing since March 2007

PS Mimi and so many others currently 'here' are an amazing bunch of 'newbies' as

I ever remember. Good group, lucky me :-)

>So, now I am examining whether I am using IE too much like a traditional diet

with rules and regulations. The good news is that I am not beating myself up

over what I did, but just trying to

> move on and understand another layer of how I view food and eating.

> Â

> Mimi

September 12, 2011