Really truly hungry?

[Guest guest]

I'm phasing a hard time distinguishing between being truly hungry (and I

definitely know what that feels like) and being what is perhaps only

environmentally triggered hungry. How can I tell? When I am at home, I often

am truly hungry by 9:00 in the morning, several hours after I've had breakfast,

but when I'm at school (I'm a teacher) I will also feel hungry about then, which

is when my planning period is. I go into the English office where my lunch is

and where I have to work that hour, and I am moved to eat, so I do. But the one

day a week when we' on a different schedule, and I don't have that planning

period, I was really worried about how I was going to get a chance to eat

something because surely I would be really hungry, I didn't get hungry, and that

made me wonder whether or not my " hunger " is being triggered by being in that

room.

I hadn't even realized there was such a thing as environmental triggers, but I

have also been craving sweet things after lunch ( which I eat during my 25

minute lunch period, where again, I am not sure if I am truly hungry or whether

it's being triggered by it being that time), when I am clearly not hungry, and

that seems so obvious. I'm in a sweet things after lunch habit. I seem to be

slipping right back into my bad habits. How do I become more aware and stop

this now?

Tilley

[Guest guest]

I think at times it's that we are simply too busy or distracted to notice our hunger. I have found that if I feel like eating, but don't feel physically hungry, that physical hunger follows within 30 minutes to an hour, and I realize I was hungry and somehow I knew that without being able to pinpoint how. Granted, that makes it hard to distinguish physical hunger from emotional hunger This is why I tend to wait until I have physical hunger signals of one sort or another.

All that to say that the day you didn't have a planning period may have just been an off-routine, distracted day Besides, if we really do eat when we aren't hungry, then we tend to not be as hungry later--that's what natural intuitive eaters do.

~

[Guest guest]

Tilley,

I'm in the same boat as you. After several weeks of being right on target with my eating, I find myself slipping back into overeating, eating when not hungry, and eating out of boredom and the drive to fill myself up. I call this the "middle stages" of IE, when the allure and "newness" have worn off and there's a strong drive to return to old patterns. All I can suggest is to keep noticing, keep experimenting, and try not to restrict or label your eating as "bad habits." You are simply returning to a pattern that has been with you for a very long time. That's to be expected. Now is when the real progress comes, when you are poised to make a lasting adjustment to your body and mind.

The overwhelming urge for me right now is to start restricting because obviously "I will always overeat, so I need a cut and dried food plan." I am attempting to resist this so that I can achieve lasting peace in eating habits and again have food take its appropriate place in my life.

Mimi

Subject: Really truly hungry?To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2011, 10:43 AM

I'm phasing a hard time distinguishing between being truly hungry (and I definitely know what that feels like) and being what is perhaps only environmentally triggered hungry. How can I tell? When I am at home, I often am truly hungry by 9:00 in the morning, several hours after I've had breakfast, but when I'm at school (I'm a teacher) I will also feel hungry about then, which is when my planning period is. I go into the English office where my lunch is and where I have to work that hour, and I am moved to eat, so I do. But the one day a week when we' on a different schedule, and I don't have that planning period, I was really worried about how I was going to get a chance to eat something because surely I would be really hungry, I didn't get hungry, and that made me wonder whether or not my "hunger" is being triggered by being in that room.I hadn't even realized there was such a thing as environmental triggers, but I have also been craving

sweet things after lunch ( which I eat during my 25 minute lunch period, where again, I am not sure if I am truly hungry or whether it's being triggered by it being that time), when I am clearly not hungry, and that seems so obvious. I'm in a sweet things after lunch habit. I seem to be slipping right back into my bad habits. How do I become more aware and stop this now?Tilley

[Guest guest]

Tilley,

I'm in the same boat as you. After several weeks of being right on target with my eating, I find myself slipping back into overeating, eating when not hungry, and eating out of boredom and the drive to fill myself up. I call this the "middle stages" of IE, when the allure and "newness" have worn off and there's a strong drive to return to old patterns. All I can suggest is to keep noticing, keep experimenting, and try not to restrict or label your eating as "bad habits." You are simply returning to a pattern that has been with you for a very long time. That's to be expected. Now is when the real progress comes, when you are poised to make a lasting adjustment to your body and mind.

The overwhelming urge for me right now is to start restricting because obviously "I will always overeat, so I need a cut and dried food plan." I am attempting to resist this so that I can achieve lasting peace in eating habits and again have food take its appropriate place in my life.

Mimi

Subject: Really truly hungry?To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2011, 10:43 AM

I'm phasing a hard time distinguishing between being truly hungry (and I definitely know what that feels like) and being what is perhaps only environmentally triggered hungry. How can I tell? When I am at home, I often am truly hungry by 9:00 in the morning, several hours after I've had breakfast, but when I'm at school (I'm a teacher) I will also feel hungry about then, which is when my planning period is. I go into the English office where my lunch is and where I have to work that hour, and I am moved to eat, so I do. But the one day a week when we' on a different schedule, and I don't have that planning period, I was really worried about how I was going to get a chance to eat something because surely I would be really hungry, I didn't get hungry, and that made me wonder whether or not my "hunger" is being triggered by being in that room.I hadn't even realized there was such a thing as environmental triggers, but I have also been craving

sweet things after lunch ( which I eat during my 25 minute lunch period, where again, I am not sure if I am truly hungry or whether it's being triggered by it being that time), when I am clearly not hungry, and that seems so obvious. I'm in a sweet things after lunch habit. I seem to be slipping right back into my bad habits. How do I become more aware and stop this now?Tilley

[Guest guest]

Tilley,

I'm in the same boat as you. After several weeks of being right on target with my eating, I find myself slipping back into overeating, eating when not hungry, and eating out of boredom and the drive to fill myself up. I call this the "middle stages" of IE, when the allure and "newness" have worn off and there's a strong drive to return to old patterns. All I can suggest is to keep noticing, keep experimenting, and try not to restrict or label your eating as "bad habits." You are simply returning to a pattern that has been with you for a very long time. That's to be expected. Now is when the real progress comes, when you are poised to make a lasting adjustment to your body and mind.

The overwhelming urge for me right now is to start restricting because obviously "I will always overeat, so I need a cut and dried food plan." I am attempting to resist this so that I can achieve lasting peace in eating habits and again have food take its appropriate place in my life.

Mimi

Subject: Really truly hungry?To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2011, 10:43 AM

I'm phasing a hard time distinguishing between being truly hungry (and I definitely know what that feels like) and being what is perhaps only environmentally triggered hungry. How can I tell? When I am at home, I often am truly hungry by 9:00 in the morning, several hours after I've had breakfast, but when I'm at school (I'm a teacher) I will also feel hungry about then, which is when my planning period is. I go into the English office where my lunch is and where I have to work that hour, and I am moved to eat, so I do. But the one day a week when we' on a different schedule, and I don't have that planning period, I was really worried about how I was going to get a chance to eat something because surely I would be really hungry, I didn't get hungry, and that made me wonder whether or not my "hunger" is being triggered by being in that room.I hadn't even realized there was such a thing as environmental triggers, but I have also been craving

sweet things after lunch ( which I eat during my 25 minute lunch period, where again, I am not sure if I am truly hungry or whether it's being triggered by it being that time), when I am clearly not hungry, and that seems so obvious. I'm in a sweet things after lunch habit. I seem to be slipping right back into my bad habits. How do I become more aware and stop this now?Tilley

[Guest guest]

I sure wish I knew how to make that progress. This does seem like a middle

stage. Today was my no-planning period day, and I was definitely hungry, but

decided that I could actually wait until lunch, an hour an a half later. Does

that mean, though, that I should wait every day? I don't know. This is all new

territory. I actually packed three different lunches today, so that I would

know that I wouldn't have to be hungry. (I am most hungry during the day, and

much less so in the evening), and when it was finally lunchtime, I tried to slow

down enough to actually enjoy the sandwich I chose to eat. I noticed that I

wanted to KEEP on eating. Mean, I was so hungry, how could I possibly be done

eating in ten short minutes. But I wasn't hungry any more, and I didn't really

feel like eating lunch number two or three. (and I didn't have anything like a

brownie or a cookie), so I stuck around for a bit chatting with my colleagues,

and then declared lunch over. I'm hungry again now (an hour and half later)

which is really annoying, but it wouldn,t have been right to continue eating

when I wasn't hungry anymore. So I don,t know.

Progress? I really don't know. I really wish that I didn't get hungry so

often, but I am, and I suppose I have to honor that as well....

Tilley

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> Subject: Really truly hungry?

> To: IntuitiveEating_Support

> Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2011, 10:43 AM

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> I'm phasing a hard time distinguishing between being truly hungry (and I

definitely know what that feels like) and being what is perhaps only

environmentally triggered hungry. How can I tell? When I am at home, I often am

truly hungry by 9:00 in the morning, several hours after I've had breakfast, but

when I'm at school (I'm a teacher) I will also feel hungry about then, which is

when my planning period is. I go into the English office where my lunch is and

where I have to work that hour, and I am moved to eat, so I do. But the one day

a week when we' on a different schedule, and I don't have that planning period,

I was really worried about how I was going to get a chance to eat something

because surely I would be really hungry, I didn't get hungry, and that made me

wonder whether or not my " hunger " is being triggered by being in that room.

>

> I hadn't even realized there was such a thing as environmental triggers, but I

have also been craving sweet things after lunch ( which I eat during my 25

minute lunch period, where again, I am not sure if I am truly hungry or whether

it's being triggered by it being that time), when I am clearly not hungry, and

that seems so obvious. I'm in a sweet things after lunch habit. I seem to be

slipping right back into my bad habits. How do I become more aware and stop this

now?

>

> Tilley

>

[Guest guest]

I sure wish I knew how to make that progress. This does seem like a middle

stage. Today was my no-planning period day, and I was definitely hungry, but

decided that I could actually wait until lunch, an hour an a half later. Does

that mean, though, that I should wait every day? I don't know. This is all new

territory. I actually packed three different lunches today, so that I would

know that I wouldn't have to be hungry. (I am most hungry during the day, and

much less so in the evening), and when it was finally lunchtime, I tried to slow

down enough to actually enjoy the sandwich I chose to eat. I noticed that I

wanted to KEEP on eating. Mean, I was so hungry, how could I possibly be done

eating in ten short minutes. But I wasn't hungry any more, and I didn't really

feel like eating lunch number two or three. (and I didn't have anything like a

brownie or a cookie), so I stuck around for a bit chatting with my colleagues,

and then declared lunch over. I'm hungry again now (an hour and half later)

which is really annoying, but it wouldn,t have been right to continue eating

when I wasn't hungry anymore. So I don,t know.

Progress? I really don't know. I really wish that I didn't get hungry so

often, but I am, and I suppose I have to honor that as well....

Tilley

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> Subject: Really truly hungry?

> To: IntuitiveEating_Support

> Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2011, 10:43 AM

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> I'm phasing a hard time distinguishing between being truly hungry (and I

definitely know what that feels like) and being what is perhaps only

environmentally triggered hungry. How can I tell? When I am at home, I often am

truly hungry by 9:00 in the morning, several hours after I've had breakfast, but

when I'm at school (I'm a teacher) I will also feel hungry about then, which is

when my planning period is. I go into the English office where my lunch is and

where I have to work that hour, and I am moved to eat, so I do. But the one day

a week when we' on a different schedule, and I don't have that planning period,

I was really worried about how I was going to get a chance to eat something

because surely I would be really hungry, I didn't get hungry, and that made me

wonder whether or not my " hunger " is being triggered by being in that room.

>

> I hadn't even realized there was such a thing as environmental triggers, but I

have also been craving sweet things after lunch ( which I eat during my 25

minute lunch period, where again, I am not sure if I am truly hungry or whether

it's being triggered by it being that time), when I am clearly not hungry, and

that seems so obvious. I'm in a sweet things after lunch habit. I seem to be

slipping right back into my bad habits. How do I become more aware and stop this

now?

>

> Tilley

>

[Guest guest]

I know what you mean. Sometimes I'll finish a meal and while I don't feel

hungry, I'm also not satisfied. I think sometimes it has to do with one of the

hungers not having been satisfied... crunchy, sweet, tangy, salty, creamy...

Know what I mean?

My food is not entirely satisfying lately and I'm in a bit of a rut with my IE

attention. I'm going to go back to reading some of the materials again and see

if I can give things a boost.

Sandarah

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> > From: tilley200 <tmartin@>

> > Subject: Really truly hungry?

> > To: IntuitiveEating_Support

> > Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2011, 10:43 AM

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> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > I'm phasing a hard time distinguishing between being truly hungry (and I

definitely know what that feels like) and being what is perhaps only

environmentally triggered hungry. How can I tell? When I am at home, I often am

truly hungry by 9:00 in the morning, several hours after I've had breakfast, but

when I'm at school (I'm a teacher) I will also feel hungry about then, which is

when my planning period is. I go into the English office where my lunch is and

where I have to work that hour, and I am moved to eat, so I do. But the one day

a week when we' on a different schedule, and I don't have that planning period,

I was really worried about how I was going to get a chance to eat something

because surely I would be really hungry, I didn't get hungry, and that made me

wonder whether or not my " hunger " is being triggered by being in that room.

> >

> > I hadn't even realized there was such a thing as environmental triggers, but

I have also been craving sweet things after lunch ( which I eat during my 25

minute lunch period, where again, I am not sure if I am truly hungry or whether

it's being triggered by it being that time), when I am clearly not hungry, and

that seems so obvious. I'm in a sweet things after lunch habit. I seem to be

slipping right back into my bad habits. How do I become more aware and stop this

now?

> >

> > Tilley

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I know what you mean. Sometimes I'll finish a meal and while I don't feel

hungry, I'm also not satisfied. I think sometimes it has to do with one of the

hungers not having been satisfied... crunchy, sweet, tangy, salty, creamy...

Know what I mean?

My food is not entirely satisfying lately and I'm in a bit of a rut with my IE

attention. I'm going to go back to reading some of the materials again and see

if I can give things a boost.

Sandarah

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> >

> > From: tilley200 <tmartin@>

> > Subject: Really truly hungry?

> > To: IntuitiveEating_Support

> > Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2011, 10:43 AM

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> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > I'm phasing a hard time distinguishing between being truly hungry (and I

definitely know what that feels like) and being what is perhaps only

environmentally triggered hungry. How can I tell? When I am at home, I often am

truly hungry by 9:00 in the morning, several hours after I've had breakfast, but

when I'm at school (I'm a teacher) I will also feel hungry about then, which is

when my planning period is. I go into the English office where my lunch is and

where I have to work that hour, and I am moved to eat, so I do. But the one day

a week when we' on a different schedule, and I don't have that planning period,

I was really worried about how I was going to get a chance to eat something

because surely I would be really hungry, I didn't get hungry, and that made me

wonder whether or not my " hunger " is being triggered by being in that room.

> >

> > I hadn't even realized there was such a thing as environmental triggers, but

I have also been craving sweet things after lunch ( which I eat during my 25

minute lunch period, where again, I am not sure if I am truly hungry or whether

it's being triggered by it being that time), when I am clearly not hungry, and

that seems so obvious. I'm in a sweet things after lunch habit. I seem to be

slipping right back into my bad habits. How do I become more aware and stop this

now?

> >

> > Tilley

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Tilley, I think you're doing just fine. Part of the uncomfortableness of practicing IE is that sometimes things seem so haphazard and chaotic. Eating at different times each day, eating an hour after you just ate, not knowing how much food to bring to work, or how hungry you will be at any given moment. Sometimes I think it seems easier just to stick to 3 meals a day at specified times and 2 snacks or whatever. Except that it isn't. It's torture. The authors in "Overcoming Overeating" say that getting hungry often is actually really good, because it gives you more opportunities to feed yourself on demand, to convince yourself that you will never deprive yourself of food again, to take care of yourself and practice IE. Plus I think that your hunger will be more predictable as you become more adept at IE. So, all is good!

Mimi

Subject: Re: Really truly hungry?To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2011, 2:00 PM

I sure wish I knew how to make that progress. This does seem like a middle stage. Today was my no-planning period day, and I was definitely hungry, but decided that I could actually wait until lunch, an hour an a half later. Does that mean, though, that I should wait every day? I don't know. This is all new territory. I actually packed three different lunches today, so that I would know that I wouldn't have to be hungry. (I am most hungry during the day, and much less so in the evening), and when it was finally lunchtime, I tried to slow down enough to actually enjoy the sandwich I chose to eat. I noticed that I wanted to KEEP on eating. Mean, I was so hungry, how could I possibly be done eating in ten short minutes. But I wasn't hungry any more, and I didn't really feel like eating lunch number two or three. (and I didn't have anything like a brownie or a cookie), so I stuck around for a bit chatting with my colleagues, and then declared lunch

over. I'm hungry again now (an hour and half later) which is really annoying, but it wouldn,t have been right to continue eating when I wasn't hungry anymore. So I don,t know.Progress? I really don't know. I really wish that I didn't get hungry so often, but I am, and I suppose I have to honor that as well....Tilley

[Guest guest]

Tilley,It sounds to me like you really were hungry at that earlier time, and that by pushing yourself to wait to eat later, you got a little too hungry, and then had trouble sensing when you were full?

i find it's easier to keep track of my fullness cues when i don't let myself get too hungry. otherwise i tend to eat too fast and eat to a much higher degree of fullness. 

best,abby

 

Must be something in the air.  I am also slipping backwards this week.  I actually considered having " Everything has a choice " tattooed on my wrist so I'd see it all the time.  LOL, that's pretty radical since I have no tattoos other than eyebrows and eyeliner. But I think I'll make a bracelet with lettered beads on it instead.   But seriously I don't know what the problem has been.  Sweets are compelling me and I am eating them without any hunger but I want them and can't stop thinking about about them.  Then last night I found myself thinking I should eat that pie so it would stop tempting me.  I did have a piece but I wasn't hungry at all and it was after I had eaten too much anyway.  So I felt icky and I started feeling pretty guilty and like a failure. It's so upsetting to me. I'm not in control and I'm sure not in charge.  I'm making crappy choices consciously.  WTH??  Today I'm recommitted to IE and I keep imagining that tattoo.  Sunny

Really truly hungry?

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2011, 10:43 AM

 

I'm phasing a hard time distinguishing between being truly hungry (and I definitely know what that feels like) and being what is perhaps only environmentally triggered hungry. How can I tell? When I am at home, I often am truly hungry by 9:00 in the morning, several hours after I've had breakfast, but when I'm at school (I'm a teacher) I will also feel hungry about then, which is when my planning period is. I go into the English office where my lunch is and where I have to work that hour, and I am moved to eat, so I do. But the one day a week when we' on a different schedule, and I don't have that planning period, I was really worried about how I was going to get a chance to eat something because surely I would be really hungry, I didn't get hungry, and that made me wonder whether or not my " hunger " is being triggered by being in that room.

I hadn't even realized there was such a thing as environmental triggers, but I have also been craving sweet things after lunch ( which I eat during my 25 minute lunch period, where again, I am not sure if I am truly hungry or whether it's being triggered by it being that time), when I am clearly not hungry, and that seems so obvious. I'm in a sweet things after lunch habit. I seem to be slipping right back into my bad habits. How do I become more aware and stop this now?

Tilley

[Guest guest]

I really don't know. I don't think I'm getting overly full at all. In fact the

problem may be not getting full enough. Today was a real drag because after

every single time I ate anything (and I was hungry), I was hungry again usually

within an hour, sometimes less, and that is just way too often to have to think

about eating. And I know that some of those times when I ate, I didn't eat much

at all, but still.... I got sick of it this evening, and when the yoga class I

was going to go to didn't have anyone there, and I was driving home past my

favorite bakery, I had a sudden urge for my favorite meal there (a foccacio and

the best salads in the world) and even though I had had " dinner " (I think) les

than an hour before, I was hungry again, and said what the heck. I was no

longer hungry halfway through, but rather than stopping like I've been doing, I

ate all of it. Instead of feeling stuffed, though, I felt pleasantly full, and

now, three hours later, I'm still not hungry, which is very pleasant. So maybe

I do need to eat more at meals.....I dunno. I'm really trying to stop at " no

longer hungry " , but it's kind of being a drag.

Tilley

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> >

> > Subject: Really truly hungry?

> > To: IntuitiveEating_Support

> > Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2011, 10:43 AM

> >

> >

> > I'm phasing a hard time distinguishing between being truly hungry (and I

> > definitely know what that feels like) and being what is perhaps only

> > environmentally triggered hungry. How can I tell? When I am at home, I often

> > am truly hungry by 9:00 in the morning, several hours after I've had

> > breakfast, but when I'm at school (I'm a teacher) I will also feel hungry

> > about then, which is when my planning period is. I go into the English

> > office where my lunch is and where I have to work that hour, and I am moved

> > to eat, so I do. But the one day a week when we' on a different schedule,

> > and I don't have that planning period, I was really worried about how I was

> > going to get a chance to eat something because surely I would be really

> > hungry, I didn't get hungry, and that made me wonder whether or not my

> > " hunger " is being triggered by being in that room.

> >

> > I hadn't even realized there was such a thing as environmental triggers,

> > but I have also been craving sweet things after lunch ( which I eat during

> > my 25 minute lunch period, where again, I am not sure if I am truly hungry

> > or whether it's being triggered by it being that time), when I am clearly

> > not hungry, and that seems so obvious. I'm in a sweet things after lunch

> > habit. I seem to be slipping right back into my bad habits. How do I become

> > more aware and stop this now?

> >

> > Tilley

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I really don't know. I don't think I'm getting overly full at all. In fact the

problem may be not getting full enough. Today was a real drag because after

every single time I ate anything (and I was hungry), I was hungry again usually

within an hour, sometimes less, and that is just way too often to have to think

about eating. And I know that some of those times when I ate, I didn't eat much

at all, but still.... I got sick of it this evening, and when the yoga class I

was going to go to didn't have anyone there, and I was driving home past my

favorite bakery, I had a sudden urge for my favorite meal there (a foccacio and

the best salads in the world) and even though I had had " dinner " (I think) les

than an hour before, I was hungry again, and said what the heck. I was no

longer hungry halfway through, but rather than stopping like I've been doing, I

ate all of it. Instead of feeling stuffed, though, I felt pleasantly full, and

now, three hours later, I'm still not hungry, which is very pleasant. So maybe

I do need to eat more at meals.....I dunno. I'm really trying to stop at " no

longer hungry " , but it's kind of being a drag.

Tilley

> >

> >

> >

> > Subject: Really truly hungry?

> > To: IntuitiveEating_Support

> > Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2011, 10:43 AM

> >

> >

> > I'm phasing a hard time distinguishing between being truly hungry (and I

> > definitely know what that feels like) and being what is perhaps only

> > environmentally triggered hungry. How can I tell? When I am at home, I often

> > am truly hungry by 9:00 in the morning, several hours after I've had

> > breakfast, but when I'm at school (I'm a teacher) I will also feel hungry

> > about then, which is when my planning period is. I go into the English

> > office where my lunch is and where I have to work that hour, and I am moved

> > to eat, so I do. But the one day a week when we' on a different schedule,

> > and I don't have that planning period, I was really worried about how I was

> > going to get a chance to eat something because surely I would be really

> > hungry, I didn't get hungry, and that made me wonder whether or not my

> > " hunger " is being triggered by being in that room.

> >

> > I hadn't even realized there was such a thing as environmental triggers,

> > but I have also been craving sweet things after lunch ( which I eat during

> > my 25 minute lunch period, where again, I am not sure if I am truly hungry

> > or whether it's being triggered by it being that time), when I am clearly

> > not hungry, and that seems so obvious. I'm in a sweet things after lunch

> > habit. I seem to be slipping right back into my bad habits. How do I become

> > more aware and stop this now?

> >

> > Tilley

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I look forward to things " becoming more predictable " because frankly, I'm

getting a little sick of it, but it doesn't feel like a diet, and it doesn't

really feel like being out of control either. Do any of you who breastfed kids

remember wha

T happened when they hit growth spurts--they nursed and nursed around the clock

until your milk production stepped up to their new need level, and every single

time you wondered what in the world was going on, and it'd take a few days to

catch on. THEIR bodies new exactly what they needed, and if it seemed a bit

haphazard to us, well, the, I guess we adults are just too prone to

overanalyzing things.

Tilley

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> Subject: Re: Really truly hungry?

> To: IntuitiveEating_Support

> Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2011, 2:00 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

>

> I sure wish I knew how to make that progress. This does seem like a middle

stage. Today was my no-planning period day, and I was definitely hungry, but

decided that I could actually wait until lunch, an hour an a half later. Does

that mean, though, that I should wait every day? I don't know. This is all new

territory. I actually packed three different lunches today, so that I would know

that I wouldn't have to be hungry. (I am most hungry during the day, and much

less so in the evening), and when it was finally lunchtime, I tried to slow down

enough to actually enjoy the sandwich I chose to eat. I noticed that I wanted to

KEEP on eating. Mean, I was so hungry, how could I possibly be done eating in

ten short minutes. But I wasn't hungry any more, and I didn't really feel like

eating lunch number two or three. (and I didn't have anything like a brownie or

a cookie), so I stuck around for a bit chatting with my colleagues, and then

declared lunch over. I'm

> hungry again now (an hour and half later) which is really annoying, but it

wouldn,t have been right to continue eating when I wasn't hungry anymore. So I

don,t know.

>

> Progress? I really don't know. I really wish that I didn't get hungry so

often, but I am, and I suppose I have to honor that as well....

>

> Tilley

>

[Guest guest]

I look forward to things " becoming more predictable " because frankly, I'm

getting a little sick of it, but it doesn't feel like a diet, and it doesn't

really feel like being out of control either. Do any of you who breastfed kids

remember wha

T happened when they hit growth spurts--they nursed and nursed around the clock

until your milk production stepped up to their new need level, and every single

time you wondered what in the world was going on, and it'd take a few days to

catch on. THEIR bodies new exactly what they needed, and if it seemed a bit

haphazard to us, well, the, I guess we adults are just too prone to

overanalyzing things.

Tilley

>

>

>

> Subject: Re: Really truly hungry?

> To: IntuitiveEating_Support

> Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2011, 2:00 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

>

> I sure wish I knew how to make that progress. This does seem like a middle

stage. Today was my no-planning period day, and I was definitely hungry, but

decided that I could actually wait until lunch, an hour an a half later. Does

that mean, though, that I should wait every day? I don't know. This is all new

territory. I actually packed three different lunches today, so that I would know

that I wouldn't have to be hungry. (I am most hungry during the day, and much

less so in the evening), and when it was finally lunchtime, I tried to slow down

enough to actually enjoy the sandwich I chose to eat. I noticed that I wanted to

KEEP on eating. Mean, I was so hungry, how could I possibly be done eating in

ten short minutes. But I wasn't hungry any more, and I didn't really feel like

eating lunch number two or three. (and I didn't have anything like a brownie or

a cookie), so I stuck around for a bit chatting with my colleagues, and then

declared lunch over. I'm

> hungry again now (an hour and half later) which is really annoying, but it

wouldn,t have been right to continue eating when I wasn't hungry anymore. So I

don,t know.

>

> Progress? I really don't know. I really wish that I didn't get hungry so

often, but I am, and I suppose I have to honor that as well....

>

> Tilley

>

[Guest guest]

I look forward to things " becoming more predictable " because frankly, I'm

getting a little sick of it, but it doesn't feel like a diet, and it doesn't

really feel like being out of control either. Do any of you who breastfed kids

remember wha

T happened when they hit growth spurts--they nursed and nursed around the clock

until your milk production stepped up to their new need level, and every single

time you wondered what in the world was going on, and it'd take a few days to

catch on. THEIR bodies new exactly what they needed, and if it seemed a bit

haphazard to us, well, the, I guess we adults are just too prone to

overanalyzing things.

Tilley

>

>

>

> Subject: Re: Really truly hungry?

> To: IntuitiveEating_Support

> Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2011, 2:00 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

>

> I sure wish I knew how to make that progress. This does seem like a middle

stage. Today was my no-planning period day, and I was definitely hungry, but

decided that I could actually wait until lunch, an hour an a half later. Does

that mean, though, that I should wait every day? I don't know. This is all new

territory. I actually packed three different lunches today, so that I would know

that I wouldn't have to be hungry. (I am most hungry during the day, and much

less so in the evening), and when it was finally lunchtime, I tried to slow down

enough to actually enjoy the sandwich I chose to eat. I noticed that I wanted to

KEEP on eating. Mean, I was so hungry, how could I possibly be done eating in

ten short minutes. But I wasn't hungry any more, and I didn't really feel like

eating lunch number two or three. (and I didn't have anything like a brownie or

a cookie), so I stuck around for a bit chatting with my colleagues, and then

declared lunch over. I'm

> hungry again now (an hour and half later) which is really annoying, but it

wouldn,t have been right to continue eating when I wasn't hungry anymore. So I

don,t know.

>

> Progress? I really don't know. I really wish that I didn't get hungry so

often, but I am, and I suppose I have to honor that as well....

>

> Tilley

>

[Guest guest]

I'm right there with you guys. Yesterday when I felt that drive to eat again when I was only marginally hungry, I started asking myself "what do I need right now?" and "how can I take care of myself right now?" Even saying that dissipated the drive to eat somewhat, so that's good.

As I was on the metro headed home from work, I felt that I could eat a horse. I was imagining huge burgers with all the fixings and fries. It's like I couldn't think of anything else. However, when I checked in with my physical hunger, it was only slight. What I felt was a gnawing sensation that I wanted to fill up. So, I asked myself the above questions and something kind of loosened inside me and the obsessive thoughts stopped. What I wanted was to relax at home, let the tension of the day slip away, and watch a favorite show. When I got home, I found that food-wise I really wanted a vegetarian Nicoise salad with potatoes, lots of vegetables and a tangy mustard-based dressing. So I took care of myself, made it, and relaxed.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Really truly hungry?To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Thursday, September 22, 2011, 6:21 PM

Must be something in the air. I am also slipping backwards this week. I actually considered having "Everything has a choice" tattooed on my wrist so I'd see it all the time. LOL, that's pretty radical since I have no tattoos other than eyebrows and eyeliner. But I think I'll make a bracelet with lettered beads on it instead. But seriously I don't know what the problem has been. Sweets are compelling me and I am eating them without any hunger but I want them and can't stop thinking about about them. Then last night I found myself thinking I should eat that pie so it would stop tempting me. I did have a piece but I wasn't hungry at all and it was after I had eaten too much anyway. So I felt icky and I started feeling

pretty guilty and like a failure. It's so upsetting to me. I'm not in control and I'm sure not in charge. I'm making crappy choices consciously. WTH?? Today I'm recommitted to IE and I keep imagining that tattoo. Sunny

[Guest guest]

I'm right there with you guys. Yesterday when I felt that drive to eat again when I was only marginally hungry, I started asking myself "what do I need right now?" and "how can I take care of myself right now?" Even saying that dissipated the drive to eat somewhat, so that's good.

As I was on the metro headed home from work, I felt that I could eat a horse. I was imagining huge burgers with all the fixings and fries. It's like I couldn't think of anything else. However, when I checked in with my physical hunger, it was only slight. What I felt was a gnawing sensation that I wanted to fill up. So, I asked myself the above questions and something kind of loosened inside me and the obsessive thoughts stopped. What I wanted was to relax at home, let the tension of the day slip away, and watch a favorite show. When I got home, I found that food-wise I really wanted a vegetarian Nicoise salad with potatoes, lots of vegetables and a tangy mustard-based dressing. So I took care of myself, made it, and relaxed.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Really truly hungry?To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Thursday, September 22, 2011, 6:21 PM

Must be something in the air. I am also slipping backwards this week. I actually considered having "Everything has a choice" tattooed on my wrist so I'd see it all the time. LOL, that's pretty radical since I have no tattoos other than eyebrows and eyeliner. But I think I'll make a bracelet with lettered beads on it instead. But seriously I don't know what the problem has been. Sweets are compelling me and I am eating them without any hunger but I want them and can't stop thinking about about them. Then last night I found myself thinking I should eat that pie so it would stop tempting me. I did have a piece but I wasn't hungry at all and it was after I had eaten too much anyway. So I felt icky and I started feeling

pretty guilty and like a failure. It's so upsetting to me. I'm not in control and I'm sure not in charge. I'm making crappy choices consciously. WTH?? Today I'm recommitted to IE and I keep imagining that tattoo. Sunny

[Guest guest]

Well, maybe "no longer hungry" is not the place for you to stop then. It sounds like you feel better at "satisfied" maybe? Nothing wrong with that. I think it's a great thing to realize and takes you more toward truly listening to your body.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Really truly hungry?To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Thursday, September 22, 2011, 10:18 PM

I really don't know. I don't think I'm getting overly full at all. In fact the problem may be not getting full enough. Today was a real drag because after every single time I ate anything (and I was hungry), I was hungry again usually within an hour, sometimes less, and that is just way too often to have to think about eating. And I know that some of those times when I ate, I didn't eat much at all, but still.... I got sick of it this evening, and when the yoga class I was going to go to didn't have anyone there, and I was driving home past my favorite bakery, I had a sudden urge for my favorite meal there (a foccacio and the best salads in the world) and even though I had had "dinner" (I think) les than an hour before, I was hungry again, and said what the heck. I was no longer hungry halfway through, but rather than stopping like I've been doing, I ate all of it. Instead of feeling stuffed, though, I felt pleasantly full, and now, three hours

later, I'm still not hungry, which is very pleasant. So maybe I do need to eat more at meals.....I dunno. I'm really trying to stop at "no longer hungry", but it's kind of being a drag.Tilley

[Guest guest]

Well, maybe "no longer hungry" is not the place for you to stop then. It sounds like you feel better at "satisfied" maybe? Nothing wrong with that. I think it's a great thing to realize and takes you more toward truly listening to your body.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Really truly hungry?To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Thursday, September 22, 2011, 10:18 PM

I really don't know. I don't think I'm getting overly full at all. In fact the problem may be not getting full enough. Today was a real drag because after every single time I ate anything (and I was hungry), I was hungry again usually within an hour, sometimes less, and that is just way too often to have to think about eating. And I know that some of those times when I ate, I didn't eat much at all, but still.... I got sick of it this evening, and when the yoga class I was going to go to didn't have anyone there, and I was driving home past my favorite bakery, I had a sudden urge for my favorite meal there (a foccacio and the best salads in the world) and even though I had had "dinner" (I think) les than an hour before, I was hungry again, and said what the heck. I was no longer hungry halfway through, but rather than stopping like I've been doing, I ate all of it. Instead of feeling stuffed, though, I felt pleasantly full, and now, three hours

later, I'm still not hungry, which is very pleasant. So maybe I do need to eat more at meals.....I dunno. I'm really trying to stop at "no longer hungry", but it's kind of being a drag.Tilley

[Guest guest]

Mimi, another helpful post. I didn't stop to ask myself those questions. I was feeling like I had a lot of pent up energy and didn't know what to do with it.  It was after dark and raining hard, so going out for some good exercise was not an option at the time(I didn't even think of it anyway).  I have a list " some where " of alternate things to do when I feel that way. Maybe I could find that lise or write a new one.  I belong to the Y and checked out its schedule and then remembered how much I really hate going there and haven't done it in years, so why would I think I would do it now? I did do a few small exercises this morning and some Yoga.  I used to do that and loved it.  Well I need to tend to the laundry now.  Sandy

 

I'm right there with you guys. Yesterday when I felt that drive to eat again when I was only marginally hungry, I started asking myself " what do I need right now? " and " how can I take care of myself right now? " Even saying that dissipated the drive to eat somewhat, so that's good.

 

As I was on the metro headed home from work, I felt that I could eat a horse. I was imagining huge burgers with all the fixings and fries. It's like I couldn't think of anything else. However, when I checked in with my physical hunger, it was only slight. What I felt was a gnawing sensation that I wanted to fill up. So, I asked myself the above questions and something kind of loosened inside me and the obsessive thoughts stopped. What I wanted was to relax at home, let the tension of the day slip away, and watch a favorite show. When I got home, I found that food-wise I really wanted a vegetarian Nicoise salad with potatoes, lots of vegetables and a tangy mustard-based dressing. So I took care of myself, made it, and relaxed.

 

Mimi

Subject: Re: Really truly hungry?To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Date: Thursday, September 22, 2011, 6:21 PM

 

Must be something in the air.  I am also slipping backwards this week.  I actually considered having " Everything has a choice " tattooed on my wrist so I'd see it all the time.  LOL, that's pretty radical since I have no tattoos other than eyebrows and eyeliner. But I think I'll make a bracelet with lettered beads on it instead.   But seriously I don't know what the problem has been.  Sweets are compelling me and I am eating them without any hunger but I want them and can't stop thinking about about them.  Then last night I found myself thinking I should eat that pie so it would stop tempting me.  I did have a piece but I wasn't hungry at all and it was after I had eaten too much anyway.  So I felt icky and I started feeling

pretty guilty and like a failure. It's so upsetting to me. I'm not in control and I'm sure not in charge.  I'm making crappy choices consciously.  WTH??  Today I'm recommitted to IE and I keep imagining that tattoo.  Sunny

[Guest guest]

Mimi, another helpful post. I didn't stop to ask myself those questions. I was feeling like I had a lot of pent up energy and didn't know what to do with it.  It was after dark and raining hard, so going out for some good exercise was not an option at the time(I didn't even think of it anyway).  I have a list " some where " of alternate things to do when I feel that way. Maybe I could find that lise or write a new one.  I belong to the Y and checked out its schedule and then remembered how much I really hate going there and haven't done it in years, so why would I think I would do it now? I did do a few small exercises this morning and some Yoga.  I used to do that and loved it.  Well I need to tend to the laundry now.  Sandy

 

I'm right there with you guys. Yesterday when I felt that drive to eat again when I was only marginally hungry, I started asking myself " what do I need right now? " and " how can I take care of myself right now? " Even saying that dissipated the drive to eat somewhat, so that's good.

 

As I was on the metro headed home from work, I felt that I could eat a horse. I was imagining huge burgers with all the fixings and fries. It's like I couldn't think of anything else. However, when I checked in with my physical hunger, it was only slight. What I felt was a gnawing sensation that I wanted to fill up. So, I asked myself the above questions and something kind of loosened inside me and the obsessive thoughts stopped. What I wanted was to relax at home, let the tension of the day slip away, and watch a favorite show. When I got home, I found that food-wise I really wanted a vegetarian Nicoise salad with potatoes, lots of vegetables and a tangy mustard-based dressing. So I took care of myself, made it, and relaxed.

 

Mimi

Subject: Re: Really truly hungry?To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Date: Thursday, September 22, 2011, 6:21 PM

 

Must be something in the air.  I am also slipping backwards this week.  I actually considered having " Everything has a choice " tattooed on my wrist so I'd see it all the time.  LOL, that's pretty radical since I have no tattoos other than eyebrows and eyeliner. But I think I'll make a bracelet with lettered beads on it instead.   But seriously I don't know what the problem has been.  Sweets are compelling me and I am eating them without any hunger but I want them and can't stop thinking about about them.  Then last night I found myself thinking I should eat that pie so it would stop tempting me.  I did have a piece but I wasn't hungry at all and it was after I had eaten too much anyway.  So I felt icky and I started feeling

pretty guilty and like a failure. It's so upsetting to me. I'm not in control and I'm sure not in charge.  I'm making crappy choices consciously.  WTH??  Today I'm recommitted to IE and I keep imagining that tattoo.  Sunny

[Guest guest]

Mimi, another helpful post. I didn't stop to ask myself those questions. I was feeling like I had a lot of pent up energy and didn't know what to do with it.  It was after dark and raining hard, so going out for some good exercise was not an option at the time(I didn't even think of it anyway).  I have a list " some where " of alternate things to do when I feel that way. Maybe I could find that lise or write a new one.  I belong to the Y and checked out its schedule and then remembered how much I really hate going there and haven't done it in years, so why would I think I would do it now? I did do a few small exercises this morning and some Yoga.  I used to do that and loved it.  Well I need to tend to the laundry now.  Sandy

 

I'm right there with you guys. Yesterday when I felt that drive to eat again when I was only marginally hungry, I started asking myself " what do I need right now? " and " how can I take care of myself right now? " Even saying that dissipated the drive to eat somewhat, so that's good.

 

As I was on the metro headed home from work, I felt that I could eat a horse. I was imagining huge burgers with all the fixings and fries. It's like I couldn't think of anything else. However, when I checked in with my physical hunger, it was only slight. What I felt was a gnawing sensation that I wanted to fill up. So, I asked myself the above questions and something kind of loosened inside me and the obsessive thoughts stopped. What I wanted was to relax at home, let the tension of the day slip away, and watch a favorite show. When I got home, I found that food-wise I really wanted a vegetarian Nicoise salad with potatoes, lots of vegetables and a tangy mustard-based dressing. So I took care of myself, made it, and relaxed.

 

Mimi

Subject: Re: Really truly hungry?To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Date: Thursday, September 22, 2011, 6:21 PM

 

Must be something in the air.  I am also slipping backwards this week.  I actually considered having " Everything has a choice " tattooed on my wrist so I'd see it all the time.  LOL, that's pretty radical since I have no tattoos other than eyebrows and eyeliner. But I think I'll make a bracelet with lettered beads on it instead.   But seriously I don't know what the problem has been.  Sweets are compelling me and I am eating them without any hunger but I want them and can't stop thinking about about them.  Then last night I found myself thinking I should eat that pie so it would stop tempting me.  I did have a piece but I wasn't hungry at all and it was after I had eaten too much anyway.  So I felt icky and I started feeling

pretty guilty and like a failure. It's so upsetting to me. I'm not in control and I'm sure not in charge.  I'm making crappy choices consciously.  WTH??  Today I'm recommitted to IE and I keep imagining that tattoo.  Sunny

[Guest guest]

I'm having a rough week too, but I know why. I've had some very big stuff happening this week and it's hard. But on the bright side, instead of just eating whatever, I'm cooking for myself and eating that. And with every bite, I tell myself I'm taking care of me. I ate a little too much but not until I was feeling sick. But it doesn't help the emotional stuff, except to remind me I deserve better. Patti

Must be something in the air. I am also slipping backwards this week. I actually considered having "Everything has a choice" tattooed on my wrist so I'd see it all the time. LOL, that's pretty radical since I have no tattoos other than eyebrows and eyeliner. But I think I'll make a bracelet with lettered beads on it instead. But seriously I don't know what the problem has been. Sweets are compelling me and I am eating them without any hunger but I want them and can't stop thinking about about them. Then last night I found myself thinking I should eat that pie so it would stop tempting me. I did have a piece but I wasn't hungry at all and it was after I had eaten too much anyway. So I felt icky and I started feeling pretty guilty and like a failure. It's so upsetting to me. I'm not in control and I'm sure not in charge. I'm making crappy choices consciously. WTH?? Today I'm recommitted to IE and I keep imagining that tattoo. Sunny

Really truly hungry?

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2011, 10:43 AM

I'm phasing a hard time distinguishing between being truly hungry (and I definitely know what that feels like) and being what is perhaps only environmentally triggered hungry. How can I tell? When I am at home, I often am truly hungry by 9:00 in the morning, several hours after I've had breakfast, but when I'm at school (I'm a teacher) I will also feel hungry about then, which is when my planning period is. I go into the English office where my lunch is and where I have to work that hour, and I am moved to eat, so I do. But the one day a week when we' on a different schedule, and I don't have that planning period, I was really worried about how I was going to get a chance to eat something because surely I would be really hungry, I didn't get hungry, and that made me wonder whether or not my "hunger" is being triggered by being in that room.

I hadn't even realized there was such a thing as environmental triggers, but I have also been craving sweet things after lunch ( which I eat during my 25 minute lunch period, where again, I am not sure if I am truly hungry or whether it's being triggered by it being that time), when I am clearly not hungry, and that seems so obvious. I'm in a sweet things after lunch habit. I seem to be slipping right back into my bad habits. How do I become more aware and stop this now?

Tilley

[Guest guest]

I'm having a rough week too, but I know why. I've had some very big stuff happening this week and it's hard. But on the bright side, instead of just eating whatever, I'm cooking for myself and eating that. And with every bite, I tell myself I'm taking care of me. I ate a little too much but not until I was feeling sick. But it doesn't help the emotional stuff, except to remind me I deserve better. Patti

Must be something in the air. I am also slipping backwards this week. I actually considered having "Everything has a choice" tattooed on my wrist so I'd see it all the time. LOL, that's pretty radical since I have no tattoos other than eyebrows and eyeliner. But I think I'll make a bracelet with lettered beads on it instead. But seriously I don't know what the problem has been. Sweets are compelling me and I am eating them without any hunger but I want them and can't stop thinking about about them. Then last night I found myself thinking I should eat that pie so it would stop tempting me. I did have a piece but I wasn't hungry at all and it was after I had eaten too much anyway. So I felt icky and I started feeling pretty guilty and like a failure. It's so upsetting to me. I'm not in control and I'm sure not in charge. I'm making crappy choices consciously. WTH?? Today I'm recommitted to IE and I keep imagining that tattoo. Sunny

Really truly hungry?

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2011, 10:43 AM

I'm phasing a hard time distinguishing between being truly hungry (and I definitely know what that feels like) and being what is perhaps only environmentally triggered hungry. How can I tell? When I am at home, I often am truly hungry by 9:00 in the morning, several hours after I've had breakfast, but when I'm at school (I'm a teacher) I will also feel hungry about then, which is when my planning period is. I go into the English office where my lunch is and where I have to work that hour, and I am moved to eat, so I do. But the one day a week when we' on a different schedule, and I don't have that planning period, I was really worried about how I was going to get a chance to eat something because surely I would be really hungry, I didn't get hungry, and that made me wonder whether or not my "hunger" is being triggered by being in that room.

I hadn't even realized there was such a thing as environmental triggers, but I have also been craving sweet things after lunch ( which I eat during my 25 minute lunch period, where again, I am not sure if I am truly hungry or whether it's being triggered by it being that time), when I am clearly not hungry, and that seems so obvious. I'm in a sweet things after lunch habit. I seem to be slipping right back into my bad habits. How do I become more aware and stop this now?

Tilley