Re: Normalizing versus Legalizing...

[Guest guest]

EXCELLENT and so right ! I also found Daphne's reply to be a perfect

addition to these wonderful insights. Yes the process takes time as well as a

willingness to 'let go' of many of the so-called rules that we had adopted up to

IE. But the reward of peace with eating and food is SO WORTH it. Thanks for

these posts - I am inspired by both.

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> Speaking for myself, I can say that when I went through legalizing, I did eat

all I wanted of anything I wanted, so long as I could afford it. I did not

worry about the hunger-fullness portion of relearning until after I had

legalized, because there would have been no point in legalizing for me if it had

been 'it's legal IF AND ONLY IF you are physically hungry.' Legalizing for me

also meant legalizing amounts as well as types of food.

> ~

>

[Guest guest]

EXCELLENT and so right ! I also found Daphne's reply to be a perfect

addition to these wonderful insights. Yes the process takes time as well as a

willingness to 'let go' of many of the so-called rules that we had adopted up to

IE. But the reward of peace with eating and food is SO WORTH it. Thanks for

these posts - I am inspired by both.

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> Speaking for myself, I can say that when I went through legalizing, I did eat

all I wanted of anything I wanted, so long as I could afford it. I did not

worry about the hunger-fullness portion of relearning until after I had

legalized, because there would have been no point in legalizing for me if it had

been 'it's legal IF AND ONLY IF you are physically hungry.' Legalizing for me

also meant legalizing amounts as well as types of food.

> ~

>

[Guest guest]

Definitely helps me. Yes, the process can be frightening and it is so easy to put up subtle restrictions that keep food forbidden and enticing -- and that keeps us overeating in the long run. Thank you for talking about the grief of no longer getting that "thrill" of feeding something other than our hunger with food. It's important to know that there will probably be some sadness in the process, too, and that's OK.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Normalizing versus Legalizing...To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Tuesday, September 27, 2011, 10:14 AM

's response (not sure if it will show up above or below mine) was great.trying to figure out how full or hungry you are can definitely get in the way of just allowing yourself to eat whatever it is you want. Any judgment, rules or parameters that you place on the experience can easily hinder it.Because I'm in the field of nutrition and had already spent years cleaning out my body and learning to listen to it, the process of "legalizing" food was not as long for me as it might be for another.It was however, terrifying. During the initial phase I had to banish from my head all of my nutrition education and just eat whatever I wanted. I had all the typical thoughts, "will I ever stop?" "what am I doing to my body?" "will it get out of control?" and more. Sometimes I didn't even know why I was so terrified, I just was.But I kept going.And I continue to keep going because it's challenging to banish

a lifetime of rules in just a few short months, or even years!When we do give ourselves true permission our body can't help to start speaking up, eventually. So now, it's rare that I even want something sweet - because it no longer gives me the "forbidden" gratification that it used to. There is some grieving there as I miss the feeling feeding my cravings gave me at times but my relationship to my body is the healthiest (and most loving) it has ever been.Hope that helps?---

[Guest guest]

Definitely helps me. Yes, the process can be frightening and it is so easy to put up subtle restrictions that keep food forbidden and enticing -- and that keeps us overeating in the long run. Thank you for talking about the grief of no longer getting that "thrill" of feeding something other than our hunger with food. It's important to know that there will probably be some sadness in the process, too, and that's OK.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Normalizing versus Legalizing...To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Tuesday, September 27, 2011, 10:14 AM

's response (not sure if it will show up above or below mine) was great.trying to figure out how full or hungry you are can definitely get in the way of just allowing yourself to eat whatever it is you want. Any judgment, rules or parameters that you place on the experience can easily hinder it.Because I'm in the field of nutrition and had already spent years cleaning out my body and learning to listen to it, the process of "legalizing" food was not as long for me as it might be for another.It was however, terrifying. During the initial phase I had to banish from my head all of my nutrition education and just eat whatever I wanted. I had all the typical thoughts, "will I ever stop?" "what am I doing to my body?" "will it get out of control?" and more. Sometimes I didn't even know why I was so terrified, I just was.But I kept going.And I continue to keep going because it's challenging to banish

a lifetime of rules in just a few short months, or even years!When we do give ourselves true permission our body can't help to start speaking up, eventually. So now, it's rare that I even want something sweet - because it no longer gives me the "forbidden" gratification that it used to. There is some grieving there as I miss the feeling feeding my cravings gave me at times but my relationship to my body is the healthiest (and most loving) it has ever been.Hope that helps?---

[Guest guest]

Definitely helps me. Yes, the process can be frightening and it is so easy to put up subtle restrictions that keep food forbidden and enticing -- and that keeps us overeating in the long run. Thank you for talking about the grief of no longer getting that "thrill" of feeding something other than our hunger with food. It's important to know that there will probably be some sadness in the process, too, and that's OK.

Mimi

Subject: Re: Normalizing versus Legalizing...To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Tuesday, September 27, 2011, 10:14 AM

's response (not sure if it will show up above or below mine) was great.trying to figure out how full or hungry you are can definitely get in the way of just allowing yourself to eat whatever it is you want. Any judgment, rules or parameters that you place on the experience can easily hinder it.Because I'm in the field of nutrition and had already spent years cleaning out my body and learning to listen to it, the process of "legalizing" food was not as long for me as it might be for another.It was however, terrifying. During the initial phase I had to banish from my head all of my nutrition education and just eat whatever I wanted. I had all the typical thoughts, "will I ever stop?" "what am I doing to my body?" "will it get out of control?" and more. Sometimes I didn't even know why I was so terrified, I just was.But I kept going.And I continue to keep going because it's challenging to banish

a lifetime of rules in just a few short months, or even years!When we do give ourselves true permission our body can't help to start speaking up, eventually. So now, it's rare that I even want something sweet - because it no longer gives me the "forbidden" gratification that it used to. There is some grieving there as I miss the feeling feeding my cravings gave me at times but my relationship to my body is the healthiest (and most loving) it has ever been.Hope that helps?---

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for this . It gives me hope and bolsters my courage

to keep on forging ahead with saying " no " to the voices of restriction as I try

and feed and reassure the voices of defiance. I truly believe this will work -

and I'm sick to death of psychologizing why I eat or crave (had been thinking

about delving into the meaning behind cravings...) Truly though, I've had

enough psychological insights to last two lifetimes and still I fight myself

over food. Thanks again. Sandarah

>

> Speaking for myself, I can say that when I went through legalizing, I did eat

all I wanted of anything I wanted, so long as I could afford it. I did not

worry about the hunger-fullness portion of relearning until after I had

legalized, because there would have been no point in legalizing for me if it had

been 'it's legal IF AND ONLY IF you are physically hungry.' Legalizing for me

also meant legalizing amounts as well as types of food.

>

> Through this process, I learned what did and did not actually taste good (many

things that I thought I liked, it turns out I despise), how hunger and satisfied

and over full felt, and eventually what my body was demanding.

>

> This was not a short process. I ate cheesecake for breakfast maybe 3 days a

week for about six months before my stomach and brain decided that cheesecake

isn't a miracle food or forbidden fruit I ate cheap chocolate until I

realized I hate it and that Snickers are far too sweet and that I really love

expensive chocolate. Now I am to the point that if I complain of being sad and

a friend suggests chocolate, I frequently respond that it doesn't sound good.

>

> The process can be scary. The idea of allowing yourself to eat as many candy

bars as you want probably seems insane to many of the voices in our heads, but

that is how we re-learn our relationship with food-allowing our bodies to

function without external restrictions.

>

> ~

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for this . It gives me hope and bolsters my courage

to keep on forging ahead with saying " no " to the voices of restriction as I try

and feed and reassure the voices of defiance. I truly believe this will work -

and I'm sick to death of psychologizing why I eat or crave (had been thinking

about delving into the meaning behind cravings...) Truly though, I've had

enough psychological insights to last two lifetimes and still I fight myself

over food. Thanks again. Sandarah

>

> Speaking for myself, I can say that when I went through legalizing, I did eat

all I wanted of anything I wanted, so long as I could afford it. I did not

worry about the hunger-fullness portion of relearning until after I had

legalized, because there would have been no point in legalizing for me if it had

been 'it's legal IF AND ONLY IF you are physically hungry.' Legalizing for me

also meant legalizing amounts as well as types of food.

>

> Through this process, I learned what did and did not actually taste good (many

things that I thought I liked, it turns out I despise), how hunger and satisfied

and over full felt, and eventually what my body was demanding.

>

> This was not a short process. I ate cheesecake for breakfast maybe 3 days a

week for about six months before my stomach and brain decided that cheesecake

isn't a miracle food or forbidden fruit I ate cheap chocolate until I

realized I hate it and that Snickers are far too sweet and that I really love

expensive chocolate. Now I am to the point that if I complain of being sad and

a friend suggests chocolate, I frequently respond that it doesn't sound good.

>

> The process can be scary. The idea of allowing yourself to eat as many candy

bars as you want probably seems insane to many of the voices in our heads, but

that is how we re-learn our relationship with food-allowing our bodies to

function without external restrictions.

>

> ~

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for this . It gives me hope and bolsters my courage

to keep on forging ahead with saying " no " to the voices of restriction as I try

and feed and reassure the voices of defiance. I truly believe this will work -

and I'm sick to death of psychologizing why I eat or crave (had been thinking

about delving into the meaning behind cravings...) Truly though, I've had

enough psychological insights to last two lifetimes and still I fight myself

over food. Thanks again. Sandarah

>

> Speaking for myself, I can say that when I went through legalizing, I did eat

all I wanted of anything I wanted, so long as I could afford it. I did not

worry about the hunger-fullness portion of relearning until after I had

legalized, because there would have been no point in legalizing for me if it had

been 'it's legal IF AND ONLY IF you are physically hungry.' Legalizing for me

also meant legalizing amounts as well as types of food.

>

> Through this process, I learned what did and did not actually taste good (many

things that I thought I liked, it turns out I despise), how hunger and satisfied

and over full felt, and eventually what my body was demanding.

>

> This was not a short process. I ate cheesecake for breakfast maybe 3 days a

week for about six months before my stomach and brain decided that cheesecake

isn't a miracle food or forbidden fruit I ate cheap chocolate until I

realized I hate it and that Snickers are far too sweet and that I really love

expensive chocolate. Now I am to the point that if I complain of being sad and

a friend suggests chocolate, I frequently respond that it doesn't sound good.

>

> The process can be scary. The idea of allowing yourself to eat as many candy

bars as you want probably seems insane to many of the voices in our heads, but

that is how we re-learn our relationship with food-allowing our bodies to

function without external restrictions.

>

> ~

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you as well... If nutritional information helped heal overeating I'd have

been " well " decades ago. Unfortunately my head full of information did nothing

to quell my internal battle with food. Too many diets, too much will power, too

many rules, too many rebounds and no trust of the body. I'm glad to hear that

the body's wisdom with full/hungry will also come to the fore once I've gotten

through this scary stage of breaking out of the diet/binge mindsets that have

held me prisoner for too long. Sandarah

> > >

> > > Hi Sara,

> > >

> > > The only way I know to reach this point is to give yourself full

permission - truly - to eat what you want. I did this awhile back and ate

brownies, ice cream, pop tarts, pizza, donuts, you name it. This coming from

someone in the nutrition field who is also a raw foods specialist! It was

terrifying but I did it anyway. And now, I can honestly say, that for the first

time in my life I don't crave foods like I used to (and I struggled with

cravings for years), I no longer desire sugar like I used to, and there is more

but I'm just about out the door. I'm happy to share more if you'd like to know

about my process.

> > >

> > > Warmly,

> > > Daphne

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > This is very interesting and I hope I will reach this point. Even though I

have " legalized " everything, I'm still trying to eat what my head

> > > says is a balanced diet but eat what I want within certain foods and eat

dessert-type foods sparingly. I'm afraid to let my body take over,

> > > afraid that all I'll want is junk food. Sandarah, did you go through any

kind of period where you did want to eat lots of or mostly desserts

> > > that were formerly forbidden?

> > >

> > > Sara

> > >

> > > Tweet me or Facebook me

> > > http://www.ThePleasureNutritionist.com

> > > Helping Busy Women Make Healthy Habits Pleasurable

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you as well... If nutritional information helped heal overeating I'd have

been " well " decades ago. Unfortunately my head full of information did nothing

to quell my internal battle with food. Too many diets, too much will power, too

many rules, too many rebounds and no trust of the body. I'm glad to hear that

the body's wisdom with full/hungry will also come to the fore once I've gotten

through this scary stage of breaking out of the diet/binge mindsets that have

held me prisoner for too long. Sandarah

> > >

> > > Hi Sara,

> > >

> > > The only way I know to reach this point is to give yourself full

permission - truly - to eat what you want. I did this awhile back and ate

brownies, ice cream, pop tarts, pizza, donuts, you name it. This coming from

someone in the nutrition field who is also a raw foods specialist! It was

terrifying but I did it anyway. And now, I can honestly say, that for the first

time in my life I don't crave foods like I used to (and I struggled with

cravings for years), I no longer desire sugar like I used to, and there is more

but I'm just about out the door. I'm happy to share more if you'd like to know

about my process.

> > >

> > > Warmly,

> > > Daphne

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > This is very interesting and I hope I will reach this point. Even though I

have " legalized " everything, I'm still trying to eat what my head

> > > says is a balanced diet but eat what I want within certain foods and eat

dessert-type foods sparingly. I'm afraid to let my body take over,

> > > afraid that all I'll want is junk food. Sandarah, did you go through any

kind of period where you did want to eat lots of or mostly desserts

> > > that were formerly forbidden?

> > >

> > > Sara

> > >

> > > Tweet me or Facebook me

> > > http://www.ThePleasureNutritionist.com

> > > Helping Busy Women Make Healthy Habits Pleasurable

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you as well... If nutritional information helped heal overeating I'd have

been " well " decades ago. Unfortunately my head full of information did nothing

to quell my internal battle with food. Too many diets, too much will power, too

many rules, too many rebounds and no trust of the body. I'm glad to hear that

the body's wisdom with full/hungry will also come to the fore once I've gotten

through this scary stage of breaking out of the diet/binge mindsets that have

held me prisoner for too long. Sandarah

> > >

> > > Hi Sara,

> > >

> > > The only way I know to reach this point is to give yourself full

permission - truly - to eat what you want. I did this awhile back and ate

brownies, ice cream, pop tarts, pizza, donuts, you name it. This coming from

someone in the nutrition field who is also a raw foods specialist! It was

terrifying but I did it anyway. And now, I can honestly say, that for the first

time in my life I don't crave foods like I used to (and I struggled with

cravings for years), I no longer desire sugar like I used to, and there is more

but I'm just about out the door. I'm happy to share more if you'd like to know

about my process.

> > >

> > > Warmly,

> > > Daphne

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > This is very interesting and I hope I will reach this point. Even though I

have " legalized " everything, I'm still trying to eat what my head

> > > says is a balanced diet but eat what I want within certain foods and eat

dessert-type foods sparingly. I'm afraid to let my body take over,

> > > afraid that all I'll want is junk food. Sandarah, did you go through any

kind of period where you did want to eat lots of or mostly desserts

> > > that were formerly forbidden?

> > >

> > > Sara

> > >

> > > Tweet me or Facebook me

> > > http://www.ThePleasureNutritionist.com

> > > Helping Busy Women Make Healthy Habits Pleasurable

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sara if you did allow yourself to eat enough butterfingers to satisfy you, you would find out your body doesn't really do well on that kind of thing. So do it. Live with the sick feeling of being overly sugared adn the sluggish feeling after the racing heart settles down. I bet you really won't want to repeat that many times. Part of IE is to honor our bodies, so when you do eat whatever you want, really listen to your body. How did it feel after the Butterfinger buffet? How did it feel after the tomato and cucumber salad? How did it feel with the oatmeal? Pay attention. You'll learn soon enough what honors your body and what doesn't and YES you will stop craving things that don't honor your body for the most part.

Sunny

Re: Normalizing versus Legalizing...

Daphne,

I would love to know about your process when you have time. It sounds like you all are saying that if I feel like I want Butterfingers' candy bars for lunch, and only Butterfingers' candy bars and nothing else, then I should just go ahead and have them? Until I am satisfied, that is? That is the reality of what I want. And if I have that, i know I can eat a lot before that full feeling begins to set in. I have read the posts about not hungry versus satisfied. I probably could eat 1 or 2 2inch long bars and not feel the physical sensation of hunger in my stomach anymore, but I would not be satisfied. I don't know how to determine satisfied. I was trying for the lack of any sensation in my stomach, neither hunger nor fullness, but I could eat an entire pack of candy bars and not feel any fullness in my stomach. I've been through a lifetime of starving myself and then binging on junk like ths. I so want out of it.

Sara

>

> Hi Sara,

> > The only way I know to reach this point is to give yourself full permission - truly - to eat what you want. I did this awhile back and ate brownies, ice cream, pop tarts, pizza, donuts, you name it. This coming from someone in the nutrition field who is also a raw foods specialist! It was terrifying but I did it anyway. And now, I can honestly say, that for the first time in my life I don't crave foods like I used to (and I struggled with cravings for years), I no longer desire sugar like I used to, and there is more but I'm just about out the door. I'm happy to share more if you'd like to know about my process.

> > Warmly,

> Daphne

> > > > This is very interesting and I hope I will reach this point. Even though I have "legalized" everything, I'm still trying to eat what my head > says is a balanced diet but eat what I want within certain foods and eat dessert-type foods sparingly. I'm afraid to let my body take over, > afraid that all I'll want is junk food. Sandarah, did you go through any kind of period where you did want to eat lots of or mostly desserts > that were formerly forbidden?

> > Sara >

> Tweet me or Facebook me

> http://www.ThePleasureNutritionist.com

> Helping Busy Women Make Healthy Habits Pleasurable

>

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[Guest guest]

Sara if you did allow yourself to eat enough butterfingers to satisfy you, you would find out your body doesn't really do well on that kind of thing. So do it. Live with the sick feeling of being overly sugared adn the sluggish feeling after the racing heart settles down. I bet you really won't want to repeat that many times. Part of IE is to honor our bodies, so when you do eat whatever you want, really listen to your body. How did it feel after the Butterfinger buffet? How did it feel after the tomato and cucumber salad? How did it feel with the oatmeal? Pay attention. You'll learn soon enough what honors your body and what doesn't and YES you will stop craving things that don't honor your body for the most part.

Sunny

Re: Normalizing versus Legalizing...

Daphne,

I would love to know about your process when you have time. It sounds like you all are saying that if I feel like I want Butterfingers' candy bars for lunch, and only Butterfingers' candy bars and nothing else, then I should just go ahead and have them? Until I am satisfied, that is? That is the reality of what I want. And if I have that, i know I can eat a lot before that full feeling begins to set in. I have read the posts about not hungry versus satisfied. I probably could eat 1 or 2 2inch long bars and not feel the physical sensation of hunger in my stomach anymore, but I would not be satisfied. I don't know how to determine satisfied. I was trying for the lack of any sensation in my stomach, neither hunger nor fullness, but I could eat an entire pack of candy bars and not feel any fullness in my stomach. I've been through a lifetime of starving myself and then binging on junk like ths. I so want out of it.

Sara

>

> Hi Sara,

> > The only way I know to reach this point is to give yourself full permission - truly - to eat what you want. I did this awhile back and ate brownies, ice cream, pop tarts, pizza, donuts, you name it. This coming from someone in the nutrition field who is also a raw foods specialist! It was terrifying but I did it anyway. And now, I can honestly say, that for the first time in my life I don't crave foods like I used to (and I struggled with cravings for years), I no longer desire sugar like I used to, and there is more but I'm just about out the door. I'm happy to share more if you'd like to know about my process.

> > Warmly,

> Daphne

> > > > This is very interesting and I hope I will reach this point. Even though I have "legalized" everything, I'm still trying to eat what my head > says is a balanced diet but eat what I want within certain foods and eat dessert-type foods sparingly. I'm afraid to let my body take over, > afraid that all I'll want is junk food. Sandarah, did you go through any kind of period where you did want to eat lots of or mostly desserts > that were formerly forbidden?

> > Sara >

> Tweet me or Facebook me

> http://www.ThePleasureNutritionist.com

> Helping Busy Women Make Healthy Habits Pleasurable

>

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Sara if you did allow yourself to eat enough butterfingers to satisfy you, you would find out your body doesn't really do well on that kind of thing. So do it. Live with the sick feeling of being overly sugared adn the sluggish feeling after the racing heart settles down. I bet you really won't want to repeat that many times. Part of IE is to honor our bodies, so when you do eat whatever you want, really listen to your body. How did it feel after the Butterfinger buffet? How did it feel after the tomato and cucumber salad? How did it feel with the oatmeal? Pay attention. You'll learn soon enough what honors your body and what doesn't and YES you will stop craving things that don't honor your body for the most part.

Sunny

Re: Normalizing versus Legalizing...

Daphne,

I would love to know about your process when you have time. It sounds like you all are saying that if I feel like I want Butterfingers' candy bars for lunch, and only Butterfingers' candy bars and nothing else, then I should just go ahead and have them? Until I am satisfied, that is? That is the reality of what I want. And if I have that, i know I can eat a lot before that full feeling begins to set in. I have read the posts about not hungry versus satisfied. I probably could eat 1 or 2 2inch long bars and not feel the physical sensation of hunger in my stomach anymore, but I would not be satisfied. I don't know how to determine satisfied. I was trying for the lack of any sensation in my stomach, neither hunger nor fullness, but I could eat an entire pack of candy bars and not feel any fullness in my stomach. I've been through a lifetime of starving myself and then binging on junk like ths. I so want out of it.

Sara

>

> Hi Sara,

> > The only way I know to reach this point is to give yourself full permission - truly - to eat what you want. I did this awhile back and ate brownies, ice cream, pop tarts, pizza, donuts, you name it. This coming from someone in the nutrition field who is also a raw foods specialist! It was terrifying but I did it anyway. And now, I can honestly say, that for the first time in my life I don't crave foods like I used to (and I struggled with cravings for years), I no longer desire sugar like I used to, and there is more but I'm just about out the door. I'm happy to share more if you'd like to know about my process.

> > Warmly,

> Daphne

> > > > This is very interesting and I hope I will reach this point. Even though I have "legalized" everything, I'm still trying to eat what my head > says is a balanced diet but eat what I want within certain foods and eat dessert-type foods sparingly. I'm afraid to let my body take over, > afraid that all I'll want is junk food. Sandarah, did you go through any kind of period where you did want to eat lots of or mostly desserts > that were formerly forbidden?

> > Sara >

> Tweet me or Facebook me

> http://www.ThePleasureNutritionist.com

> Helping Busy Women Make Healthy Habits Pleasurable

>

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[Guest guest]

I really was going to buy that bag of snickers bars for just this reason, but I

had a migraine by the time I went to the store, and even the thought of eating a

snickers bar made me feel sick.

>

>

> Sara if you did allow yourself to eat enough butterfingers to satisfy you, you

would find out your body doesn't really do well on that kind of thing. So do

it. Live with the sick feeling of being overly sugared adn the sluggish feeling

after the racing heart settles down. I bet you really won't want to repeat that

many times. Part of IE is to honor our bodies, so when you do eat whatever you

want, really listen to your body. How did it feel after the Butterfinger

buffet? How did it feel after the tomato and cucumber salad? How did it feel

with the oatmeal? Pay attention. You'll learn soon enough what honors your

body and what doesn't and YES you will stop craving things that don't honor your

body for the most part.

>

> Sunny

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Re: Normalizing versus Legalizing...

>

>

> Daphne,

> I would love to know about your process when you have time.

> It sounds like you all are saying that if I feel like I want Butterfingers'

> andy bars for lunch, and only Butterfingers' candy bars and nothing else, then

> should just go ahead and have them? Until I am satisfied, that is? That is

the

> eality of what I want. And if I have that, i know I can eat a lot before that

> ull feeling begins to set in. I have read the posts about not hungry versus

> atisfied. I probably could eat 1 or 2 2inch long bars and not feel the

physical

> ensation of hunger in my stomach anymore, but I would not be satisfied. I

don't

> now how to determine satisfied. I was trying for the lack of any sensation in

> y stomach, neither hunger nor fullness, but I could eat an entire pack of

candy

> ars and not feel any fullness in my stomach. I've been through a lifetime of

> tarving myself and then binging on junk like ths. I so want out of it.

> Sara

> --- In IntuitiveEating_Support , Daphne Cohn <daphnecohn@>

> rote:

>

> Hi Sara,

>

> The only way I know to reach this point is to give yourself full permission -

> ruly - to eat what you want. I did this awhile back and ate brownies, ice

> ream, pop tarts, pizza, donuts, you name it. This coming from someone in the

> utrition field who is also a raw foods specialist! It was terrifying but I did

> t anyway. And now, I can honestly say, that for the first time in my life I

> on't crave foods like I used to (and I struggled with cravings for years), I

no

> onger desire sugar like I used to, and there is more but I'm just about out

the

> oor. I'm happy to share more if you'd like to know about my process.

>

> Warmly,

> Daphne

>

>

>

> This is very interesting and I hope I will reach this point. Even though I

> ave " legalized " everything, I'm still trying to eat what my head

> says is a balanced diet but eat what I want within certain foods and eat

> essert-type foods sparingly. I'm afraid to let my body take over,

> afraid that all I'll want is junk food. Sandarah, did you go through any kind

> f period where you did want to eat lots of or mostly desserts

> that were formerly forbidden?

>

> Sara

>

> Tweet me or Facebook me

> http://www.ThePleasureNutritionist.com

> Helping Busy Women Make Healthy Habits Pleasurable

>

>

>

> -----------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

I really was going to buy that bag of snickers bars for just this reason, but I

had a migraine by the time I went to the store, and even the thought of eating a

snickers bar made me feel sick.

>

>

> Sara if you did allow yourself to eat enough butterfingers to satisfy you, you

would find out your body doesn't really do well on that kind of thing. So do

it. Live with the sick feeling of being overly sugared adn the sluggish feeling

after the racing heart settles down. I bet you really won't want to repeat that

many times. Part of IE is to honor our bodies, so when you do eat whatever you

want, really listen to your body. How did it feel after the Butterfinger

buffet? How did it feel after the tomato and cucumber salad? How did it feel

with the oatmeal? Pay attention. You'll learn soon enough what honors your

body and what doesn't and YES you will stop craving things that don't honor your

body for the most part.

>

> Sunny

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Re: Normalizing versus Legalizing...

>

>

> Daphne,

> I would love to know about your process when you have time.

> It sounds like you all are saying that if I feel like I want Butterfingers'

> andy bars for lunch, and only Butterfingers' candy bars and nothing else, then

> should just go ahead and have them? Until I am satisfied, that is? That is

the

> eality of what I want. And if I have that, i know I can eat a lot before that

> ull feeling begins to set in. I have read the posts about not hungry versus

> atisfied. I probably could eat 1 or 2 2inch long bars and not feel the

physical

> ensation of hunger in my stomach anymore, but I would not be satisfied. I

don't

> now how to determine satisfied. I was trying for the lack of any sensation in

> y stomach, neither hunger nor fullness, but I could eat an entire pack of

candy

> ars and not feel any fullness in my stomach. I've been through a lifetime of

> tarving myself and then binging on junk like ths. I so want out of it.

> Sara

> --- In IntuitiveEating_Support , Daphne Cohn <daphnecohn@>

> rote:

>

> Hi Sara,

>

> The only way I know to reach this point is to give yourself full permission -

> ruly - to eat what you want. I did this awhile back and ate brownies, ice

> ream, pop tarts, pizza, donuts, you name it. This coming from someone in the

> utrition field who is also a raw foods specialist! It was terrifying but I did

> t anyway. And now, I can honestly say, that for the first time in my life I

> on't crave foods like I used to (and I struggled with cravings for years), I

no

> onger desire sugar like I used to, and there is more but I'm just about out

the

> oor. I'm happy to share more if you'd like to know about my process.

>

> Warmly,

> Daphne

>

>

>

> This is very interesting and I hope I will reach this point. Even though I

> ave " legalized " everything, I'm still trying to eat what my head

> says is a balanced diet but eat what I want within certain foods and eat

> essert-type foods sparingly. I'm afraid to let my body take over,

> afraid that all I'll want is junk food. Sandarah, did you go through any kind

> f period where you did want to eat lots of or mostly desserts

> that were formerly forbidden?

>

> Sara

>

> Tweet me or Facebook me

> http://www.ThePleasureNutritionist.com

> Helping Busy Women Make Healthy Habits Pleasurable

>

>

>

> -----------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

Or maybe it won't make you feel crummy, in which case, it's okay to eat it,

though since it's " legal " it's appeal might be lessened somewhat. But the goal

is not to not-want those foods; the goal is to be at peace with food.

I seemed to do just fine with eating germans chocolate cake and lemon meringue

pie during " birthday season " , which made me pretty darned happy, as I do love

those two treats. But I'm also content to wait until they come around again,

and don't feel particularly compelled to go seek them out.

Tilley

> >

> >

> > Sara if you did allow yourself to eat enough butterfingers to satisfy you,

you would find out your body doesn't really do well on that kind of thing. So

do it. Live with the sick feeling of being overly sugared adn the sluggish

feeling after the racing heart settles down. I bet you really won't want to

repeat that many times. Part of IE is to honor our bodies, so when you do eat

whatever you want, really listen to your body. How did it feel after the

Butterfinger buffet? How did it feel after the tomato and cucumber salad? How

did it feel with the oatmeal? Pay attention. You'll learn soon enough what

honors your body and what doesn't and YES you will stop craving things that

don't honor your body for the most part.

> >

> > Sunny

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Re: Normalizing versus Legalizing...

> >

> >

> > Daphne,

> > I would love to know about your process when you have time.

> > It sounds like you all are saying that if I feel like I want Butterfingers'

> > andy bars for lunch, and only Butterfingers' candy bars and nothing else,

then

> > should just go ahead and have them? Until I am satisfied, that is? That is

the

> > eality of what I want. And if I have that, i know I can eat a lot before

that

> > ull feeling begins to set in. I have read the posts about not hungry versus

> > atisfied. I probably could eat 1 or 2 2inch long bars and not feel the

physical

> > ensation of hunger in my stomach anymore, but I would not be satisfied. I

don't

> > now how to determine satisfied. I was trying for the lack of any sensation

in

> > y stomach, neither hunger nor fullness, but I could eat an entire pack of

candy

> > ars and not feel any fullness in my stomach. I've been through a lifetime of

> > tarving myself and then binging on junk like ths. I so want out of it.

> > Sara

> > --- In IntuitiveEating_Support , Daphne Cohn <daphnecohn@>

> > rote:

> >

> > Hi Sara,

> >

> > The only way I know to reach this point is to give yourself full permission

-

> > ruly - to eat what you want. I did this awhile back and ate brownies, ice

> > ream, pop tarts, pizza, donuts, you name it. This coming from someone in the

> > utrition field who is also a raw foods specialist! It was terrifying but I

did

> > t anyway. And now, I can honestly say, that for the first time in my life I

> > on't crave foods like I used to (and I struggled with cravings for years), I

no

> > onger desire sugar like I used to, and there is more but I'm just about out

the

> > oor. I'm happy to share more if you'd like to know about my process.

> >

> > Warmly,

> > Daphne

> >

> >

> >

> > This is very interesting and I hope I will reach this point. Even though I

> > ave " legalized " everything, I'm still trying to eat what my head

> > says is a balanced diet but eat what I want within certain foods and eat

> > essert-type foods sparingly. I'm afraid to let my body take over,

> > afraid that all I'll want is junk food. Sandarah, did you go through any

kind

> > f period where you did want to eat lots of or mostly desserts

> > that were formerly forbidden?

> >

> > Sara

> >

> > Tweet me or Facebook me

> > http://www.ThePleasureNutritionist.com

> > Helping Busy Women Make Healthy Habits Pleasurable

> >

> >

> >

> > -----------------------------------

> >

[Guest guest]

Tilley,

Thanks for pointing out that, " ...the goal is not to not-want those foods; the

goal is to be at peace with food. "

>

I needed to be reminded of that. I think I'm still seeing some foods as " bad. "

Jane

[Guest guest]

Tilley,

Thanks for pointing out that, " ...the goal is not to not-want those foods; the

goal is to be at peace with food. "

>

I needed to be reminded of that. I think I'm still seeing some foods as " bad. "

Jane

[Guest guest]

Tilley,

Thanks for pointing out that, " ...the goal is not to not-want those foods; the

goal is to be at peace with food. "

>

I needed to be reminded of that. I think I'm still seeing some foods as " bad. "

Jane

[Guest guest]

Sorry you had a headache. I'm curious....did your craving for the snickers bars

pass?

> >

> >

> > Sara if you did allow yourself to eat enough butterfingers to satisfy you,

you would find out your body doesn't really do well on that kind of thing. So

do it. Live with the sick feeling of being overly sugared adn the sluggish

feeling after the racing heart settles down. I bet you really won't want to

repeat that many times. Part of IE is to honor our bodies, so when you do eat

whatever you want, really listen to your body. How did it feel after the

Butterfinger buffet? How did it feel after the tomato and cucumber salad? How

did it feel with the oatmeal? Pay attention. You'll learn soon enough what

honors your body and what doesn't and YES you will stop craving things that

don't honor your body for the most part.

> >

> > Sunny

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Re: Normalizing versus Legalizing...

> >

> >

> > Daphne,

> > I would love to know about your process when you have time.

> > It sounds like you all are saying that if I feel like I want Butterfingers'

> > andy bars for lunch, and only Butterfingers' candy bars and nothing else,

then

> > should just go ahead and have them? Until I am satisfied, that is? That is

the

> > eality of what I want. And if I have that, i know I can eat a lot before

that

> > ull feeling begins to set in. I have read the posts about not hungry versus

> > atisfied. I probably could eat 1 or 2 2inch long bars and not feel the

physical

> > ensation of hunger in my stomach anymore, but I would not be satisfied. I

don't

> > now how to determine satisfied. I was trying for the lack of any sensation

in

> > y stomach, neither hunger nor fullness, but I could eat an entire pack of

candy

> > ars and not feel any fullness in my stomach. I've been through a lifetime of

> > tarving myself and then binging on junk like ths. I so want out of it.

> > Sara

> > --- In IntuitiveEating_Support , Daphne Cohn <daphnecohn@>

> > rote:

> >

> > Hi Sara,

> >

> > The only way I know to reach this point is to give yourself full permission

-

> > ruly - to eat what you want. I did this awhile back and ate brownies, ice

> > ream, pop tarts, pizza, donuts, you name it. This coming from someone in the

> > utrition field who is also a raw foods specialist! It was terrifying but I

did

> > t anyway. And now, I can honestly say, that for the first time in my life I

> > on't crave foods like I used to (and I struggled with cravings for years), I

no

> > onger desire sugar like I used to, and there is more but I'm just about out

the

> > oor. I'm happy to share more if you'd like to know about my process.

> >

> > Warmly,

> > Daphne

> >

> >

> >

> > This is very interesting and I hope I will reach this point. Even though I

> > ave " legalized " everything, I'm still trying to eat what my head

> > says is a balanced diet but eat what I want within certain foods and eat

> > essert-type foods sparingly. I'm afraid to let my body take over,

> > afraid that all I'll want is junk food. Sandarah, did you go through any

kind

> > f period where you did want to eat lots of or mostly desserts

> > that were formerly forbidden?

> >

> > Sara

> >

> > Tweet me or Facebook me

> > http://www.ThePleasureNutritionist.com

> > Helping Busy Women Make Healthy Habits Pleasurable

> >

> >

> >

> > -----------------------------------

> >

[Guest guest]

Sorry you had a headache. I'm curious....did your craving for the snickers bars

pass?

> >

> >

> > Sara if you did allow yourself to eat enough butterfingers to satisfy you,

you would find out your body doesn't really do well on that kind of thing. So

do it. Live with the sick feeling of being overly sugared adn the sluggish

feeling after the racing heart settles down. I bet you really won't want to

repeat that many times. Part of IE is to honor our bodies, so when you do eat

whatever you want, really listen to your body. How did it feel after the

Butterfinger buffet? How did it feel after the tomato and cucumber salad? How

did it feel with the oatmeal? Pay attention. You'll learn soon enough what

honors your body and what doesn't and YES you will stop craving things that

don't honor your body for the most part.

> >

> > Sunny

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Re: Normalizing versus Legalizing...

> >

> >

> > Daphne,

> > I would love to know about your process when you have time.

> > It sounds like you all are saying that if I feel like I want Butterfingers'

> > andy bars for lunch, and only Butterfingers' candy bars and nothing else,

then

> > should just go ahead and have them? Until I am satisfied, that is? That is

the

> > eality of what I want. And if I have that, i know I can eat a lot before

that

> > ull feeling begins to set in. I have read the posts about not hungry versus

> > atisfied. I probably could eat 1 or 2 2inch long bars and not feel the

physical

> > ensation of hunger in my stomach anymore, but I would not be satisfied. I

don't

> > now how to determine satisfied. I was trying for the lack of any sensation

in

> > y stomach, neither hunger nor fullness, but I could eat an entire pack of

candy

> > ars and not feel any fullness in my stomach. I've been through a lifetime of

> > tarving myself and then binging on junk like ths. I so want out of it.

> > Sara

> > --- In IntuitiveEating_Support , Daphne Cohn <daphnecohn@>

> > rote:

> >

> > Hi Sara,

> >

> > The only way I know to reach this point is to give yourself full permission

-

> > ruly - to eat what you want. I did this awhile back and ate brownies, ice

> > ream, pop tarts, pizza, donuts, you name it. This coming from someone in the

> > utrition field who is also a raw foods specialist! It was terrifying but I

did

> > t anyway. And now, I can honestly say, that for the first time in my life I

> > on't crave foods like I used to (and I struggled with cravings for years), I

no

> > onger desire sugar like I used to, and there is more but I'm just about out

the

> > oor. I'm happy to share more if you'd like to know about my process.

> >

> > Warmly,

> > Daphne

> >

> >

> >

> > This is very interesting and I hope I will reach this point. Even though I

> > ave " legalized " everything, I'm still trying to eat what my head

> > says is a balanced diet but eat what I want within certain foods and eat

> > essert-type foods sparingly. I'm afraid to let my body take over,

> > afraid that all I'll want is junk food. Sandarah, did you go through any

kind

> > f period where you did want to eat lots of or mostly desserts

> > that were formerly forbidden?

> >

> > Sara

> >

> > Tweet me or Facebook me

> > http://www.ThePleasureNutritionist.com

> > Helping Busy Women Make Healthy Habits Pleasurable

> >

> >

> >

> > -----------------------------------

> >